Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL
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3:20 [COUGH] Good evening, the March 22nd, 2022 board meeting is now
3:25 in order.
3:26 I’m happy to welcome my fellow board members and the public.
3:29 This is a business meeting of the board held in the public.
3:32 As such, the board is authorized to adopt rules or policies to
3:34 maintain orderly
3:35 conduct and proper decorum in a public meeting.
3:38 Please note that your presence here is subject to those rules
3:41 and policies.
3:42 Pursuant to Florida Statute 877.13, it is unlawful and a
3:46 misdemeanor of
3:47 the second degree punishable by up to 60 days in jail and a $500
3:51 fine for
3:52 any person knowingly to disrupt or interfere with the lawful
3:56 administration
3:57 or functions of any educational institution or school board.
4:00 Or knowingly to advise, counsel, or instruct any school pupil or
4:04 school employee to disrupt any school or school board function
4:08 or
4:08 activity on school board property.
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4:24 agenda.
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4:31 I’ll ask persons deemed to be knowingly or intentionally
4:33 disrupting this meeting of
4:34 the school board of Brevard County or not complying with policy
4:37 to stop or leave.
4:39 If persons receiving the warning choose not to follow my
4:41 instructions,
4:41 I’ll instruct Brevard County Sheriff’s deputies to take any law
4:44 enforcement
4:44 action they deem appropriate.
4:46 And you may be escorted, detained, or arrested depending on the
4:49 conduct.
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4:54 may also be committing the crime of trespassing,
4:56 in accordance with Florida statute section 810.05.
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5:02 which includes this boardroom as well as the outside of this
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5:07 If you continue to cause a disruption,
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5:11 877.13.
5:13 Or if you fail to leave the premises after being warned by the
5:15 sheriff’s office,
5:16 you are committing trespass and
5:17 the board has authorized the sheriff’s office to enforce these
5:20 rules.
5:21 In the event multiple individuals fail to adhere to these
5:24 expectations and
5:25 board business cannot continue due to disruption, I will call a
5:28 recess and
5:29 request that the law enforcement officers present clear the
5:31 boardroom of attendees.
5:34 When the room is cleared, the board will return and
5:36 resume their meeting with no public presence.
5:38 Those who are signed up to speak will be seated under the front
5:41 entry area and
5:42 called in when it is your time to speak.
5:43 Mr. Gibbs, roll call, please.
5:48 » Ms. Belford.
5:50 » Present.
5:50 » Ms. McDougall.
5:51 » Present.
5:52 » Mr. Season.
5:53 » Present.
5:53 » Ms. Jenkins.
5:54 » Present.
5:54 » Ms. Campbell.
5:55 » Present.
5:57 » The board will now hold a moment of silent reflection and
6:00 invite the audience to join.
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6:21 Thank you, please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
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6:28 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of
6:32 America, and
6:33 to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
6:37 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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6:44 » At this time, I would like to offer my fellow board members
6:44 and Dr.
6:47 Mullins an opportunity to recognize students, staff, or members
6:50 of the community.
6:51 Who would like to get us started this evening?
6:52 Ms. Jenkins.
6:55 » Sure.
6:56 I just want to do a friendly reminder to all of our families
6:59 across Brevard that we
7:00 have kindergarten registration starting next week, March 28th
7:04 through April 1st.
7:06 You can go to brevardschools.org.
7:10 But you also, just to give you a heads up, make sure you got
7:13 that birth certificate,
7:13 your immunization records, a current physical, and two forms of
7:17 residency when
7:18 you fill out that registration packet.
7:22 » Thank you, Ms. Jenkins.
7:23 Who’s next?
7:24 Ms. Campbell.
7:25 » All right, so just an update on the 300 mile challenge.
7:28 As a reminder to the board and the people on the dais, yes,
7:32 that we’re doing it to set an example because we want our
7:34 employees to get
7:35 healthy.
7:36 So Mr. Gibbs is an, I don’t think he’s, we were able to overtake
7:43 him.
7:43 With 730,000 steps, which it did a little calculation,
7:46 that’s equivalent to according to the challenge, 365 miles.
7:51 So he’s already met the 300 mile challenge.
7:53 Congratulations, Mr. Gibbs, you can stop now and see if we can
7:56 catch up.
7:56 I’m in second place, and Ms. McDougall’s in third place.
7:59 And Ms. Belfer started recording hers, yay.
8:01 » And I’m like a week behind, so I’m not necessarily in third
8:04 place.
8:05 » Okay, all right, the rest of you need to get moving.
8:10 So I wanted to give an update.
8:11 I told you guys last time that three of our high school orchestras
8:15 were invited
8:16 to the National Orchestra Festival over spring break.
8:21 Satellite, Mail High, and Oak Alley, they all were amazing.
8:26 And one of them returned the grand champion,
8:30 the best high school orchestra in the country, and that was Oak
8:34 Alley High School.
8:35 So congratulations to the Oak Alley Chamber Orchestra.
8:38 » [APPLAUSE] » And I don’t think any official bet was
8:43 made, Mr. Susan, so whatever you’re about to say.
8:44 » Well, I brought some t-shirts, just so everybody knows.
8:47 So Ms. Campbell can wear, so I taught there.
8:52 And Ms. Campbell, I just want you to know, this is very
8:55 nostalgic.
8:55 So in order to be a real cool teacher,
8:58 you got to be part of the Commodore Crazies, which was the fans,
9:01 the school fans.
9:03 So I’m gonna give you an option, I’m gonna put these here.
9:05 » I’ll put it on right now, I’m proud of them.
9:07 » And I think you should wear it at the next board meeting or
9:10 something like that.
9:11 I’m gonna put it right here, just so everybody understands, Oak
9:13 Alley did this.
9:15 And this is Ms. Campbell’s area,
9:16 just so everybody understands, I couldn’t play a music thing
9:19 just in my life.
9:19 But I will tell you, I’m proud of Oak Alley, and I wanna let her
9:23 continue her story.
9:24 But I want her to choose which one of these she wanted to do.
9:27 » I’ll take the gray one, I’ll take the gray one.
9:28 » What, you don’t wanna be crazy?
9:29 » No, so congratulations to them, we’re super proud of them.
9:34 » Wait, can you tell them what that is?
9:36 It was massive, wasn’t it?
9:38 » Yeah, I mean, you had to go through a selection process just
9:40 to get to go.
9:42 Like a year ahead of time, right?
9:44 And- » There is nobody on the planet that is
9:47 better than Oak Alley.
9:48 » I have a kid in one of the other schools, so I was kind of
9:50 rooting for
9:51 them too, but I’m telling you, I watched them at the pre-concert
9:54 before they went.
9:55 It’s 30 minutes of music, they had to play 30 minutes of music.
9:58 And their school chose to do 30 minutes of music by memory.
10:03 And they were standing up, except for the cellos, they have to
10:05 sit down.
10:06 They were standing up in their sock feet, I’m not sure if that
10:09 was so
10:09 they could feel the vibrations, or if it was because it looked
10:12 cooler,
10:12 it was because they were standing up for 30 minutes.
10:15 And when the concert, when they were about to begin, the
10:18 director came and
10:19 sat behind me.
10:20 And so they did the entire 30 minute concert by memory with no
10:23 conductor.
10:24 It was incredible.
10:26 So no wonder they’re amazingly impressive to the judges at the
10:28 festival.
10:29 So congratulations to all of them, but especially to our grand
10:32 champions.
10:33 The Thursday night we kicked off spring break with the South
10:35 Area Elementary Art,
10:37 Science, and Engineering Fair.
10:39 It was wonderful to see all the science projects,
10:42 all the engineering projects, all the artwork that was there.
10:45 And congratulations to all those winners, and thank you to all
10:47 our teachers and
10:48 the principals who coordinated that fair as well.
10:51 Destination Mars started this week, and if you didn’t get to
10:54 come by yesterday,
10:55 there were two schools with about five teams, something like
10:59 that, yesterday.
11:00 And I got to walk around the room, it was awesome.
11:02 You’re also gonna be here next Monday, and there’s a few other
11:04 days.
11:05 So make sure you check that out,
11:07 because the creativity of our elementary students is off the
11:13 chain.
11:14 It’s pretty cool.
11:14 I’m not cool enough to say that, but don’t tell my kids.
11:18 The last thing that I wanted to share is, no, that was it, I’m
11:22 done.
11:25 » Thank you very much, Ms. Campbell, Mr. Susan.
11:28 So I want everybody to understand Ms. Campbell is passionate
11:34 about all of the music, and orchestra, and bands.
11:38 Like we all have our own areas that we love, so
11:42 I really appreciate you championing that, because there’s no way
11:46 Dr.
11:46 Mullins and I could ever do that.
11:48 » Hey, he’s gonna speak for yourself, right?
11:50 » What? » No, he’s a band dad.
11:52 » He’s lying, don’t listen to him.
11:53 But you do a great job, and I wanted to say thank you.
11:55 And I will really look forward to seeing you wear the t-shirt.
11:58 I appreciate you pointing that out.
12:01 Anyways, so I want everybody to understand.
12:04 I gotta give you another update on our trades tour.
12:06 So we had something else happen.
12:07 So every time we come around, something else is coming forward.
12:11 So first off, I spoke at the Associated Builders and
12:14 Contractors in Cocoa last, I think it was Wednesday or Thursday
12:20 night.
12:20 And that’s all the contractors that do commercial work.
12:23 So your large commercial end out at Kennedy Space Center,
12:25 schools, cities, all of that stuff.
12:27 They were ecstatic to get involved.
12:30 They offered to put together pre-apprenticeship programs at the
12:33 end of
12:33 the school for the kids that graduate over the summer, right?
12:36 Not to tie into anything, let them graduate and let them come.
12:39 They made suggestions, they wanna get involved.
12:41 So it’s kinda starting to bubble, right?
12:43 And there’s a guy that stood up, and I’m sorry, I’m gonna throw
12:46 him under the bus.
12:47 He’s from Broward County.
12:48 And he said, if we had what you have here,
12:54 we would be such a better company and a better community.
12:56 And he went on for two or three minutes.
12:59 Ms. Rutledge was there, and he talked about how he’s never seen
13:03 a school system entwined with the contractors and working with
13:08 them.
13:08 Cuz Ms. Rutledge got up also and spoke for a while.
13:10 They cared to listen to her, they didn’t really wanna listen to
13:12 me anyway.
13:13 But it was amazing.
13:15 So I wanted to say thank you to Associated Builders and
13:16 Contractors for having us.
13:18 Thank you to Ms. Rutledge.
13:19 Anybody that doesn’t know who she is, she’s the director of our
13:22 CTE programs.
13:23 And she’s taken it personally to make sure that every kid that
13:26 gets
13:26 an opportunity gets a job or an apprenticeship.
13:29 And she deserves all the credit along with Dr. Mullins and our
13:31 staff.
13:32 I’m just a cheerleader, and she’s doing a great job.
13:35 The next thing is, is that the cool thing that happened was that
13:38 the Realtors Association, Dr. Mullins and I are going over there
13:41 on Friday.
13:41 And the Realtors Association is gonna partner up with us, and
13:44 they’re gonna offer opportunities inside real estate for our
13:47 kids.
13:47 And at first, I was like, listen, I do insurance for a living,
13:50 right?
13:51 But we don’t need to tell our kids how to be real estate agents.
13:54 There’s a thousand of them.
13:54 Like, I have people that haven’t sold a piece of real estate in
13:57 20 years that
13:57 are real estate agents, right?
13:58 We don’t need to create that.
14:00 And they said, no, no, no, Matt, they build website.
14:03 They fly drones for photography.
14:04 They take pictures for photography.
14:06 They work real estate management.
14:08 There’s a million jobs that are inside the real estate that they
14:12 manage
14:13 that can give our kids opportunities from MIMS to MICO.
14:16 And I was like, that is amazing.
14:17 So Dr. Mullins is gonna go give them the CTE tour.
14:20 I’m gonna do a hoorah, and then I think we’re gonna try to
14:21 figure that out,
14:22 which is gonna be amazing.
14:23 The other thing I want to say, not many people know, but
14:26 we’ll talk more about it at the next meeting.
14:29 But the NASA Hunch, many people may not know about this program,
14:34 but
14:34 NASA has a program that allows students in schools to put stuff
14:38 up into space.
14:39 They build it and put it up into space, right?
14:41 So we’ve got these lockers, we’ve got the stuff that went up.
14:44 But at O’Gally, and the reason I’m saying it today, is today,
14:48 tomorrow, and Thursday,
14:51 NASA is inside of there working at O’Gally’s aviation hangar to
14:55 put
14:56 together what will be the track for the rover that goes on Mars
15:00 in 2034.
15:01 So literally, our kids are putting together the track on the
15:05 rover that will
15:06 be traveling there, they’re putting it together now, they launch
15:09 it like 2025.
15:10 It has to fly out there, land, and
15:13 start building the community that our people fly out there on 2034,
15:18 and
15:18 land to start living in.
15:20 So it’s starting to happen.
15:21 It’s something to be very impressive with, and our kids are
15:23 leading the way.
15:24 And with that, I’m good.
15:25 That’s all I had.
15:26 Thank you.
15:30 » I just have one thing.
15:31 I wanna give a shout out to the fourth grade teachers at
15:34 Stevenson Elementary School and the students.
15:37 They have been writing letters.
15:39 They have a project.
15:40 They have been writing letters to myself,
15:42 to our elected officials throughout the state and the county.
15:46 Because their project is they would like to be a model school
15:51 for solar panels.
15:52 They feel we’re in Florida, and why not have solar panels
15:58 provide electricity?
15:59 And they had some really good points.
16:01 I share them with Ms. Han, and she’s gonna connect with them
16:07 also.
16:08 And it’s a great project.
16:09 The kids were really, I popped in and talked to all the kids in
16:11 the classrooms.
16:12 And they have really good points about why they want this to
16:16 happen and
16:17 how valuable it would be for our district and for the community.
16:21 So, shout out to Stevenson Elementary School.
16:23 And that’s all I have.
16:25 » You should call FPL.
16:26 They put out 100 solar fields.
16:29 Everywhere I go, they put, call FPL, have them come prep.
16:34 They should [INAUDIBLE] » [LAUGH]
16:37 » Or just borrow the ones we got in the park.
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16:40 » Dr. Mullen.
16:43 » Thank you, Ms. Belford.
16:45 First, I want to share that this week, we launched Destination
16:49 Mars again.
16:50 I don’t know how many years we’ve been hosting on this, at least
16:53 three or
16:54 four years.
16:55 Destination Mars is a problem solving experience where our fifth
16:59 and
16:59 sixth graders come here.
17:01 This room transforms into Mars, and they problem solve and
17:07 work together in teams to overcome challenges.
17:10 And there’s literally a map on the floor of this boardroom that’s
17:14 probably
17:15 half the size of the room.
17:16 And the kids are engaged with all of these different activities.
17:20 Huge shout out to Boeing, who continues to be a, I’ll just say,
17:25 platinum sponsor providing over $120,000 to make that
17:30 Space Coast experience possible for our kids.
17:35 So very exciting if you get a chance to be up here and see our
17:37 kids interacting.
17:38 It’s a lot of fun.
17:39 It’s a great buzz in the building when we have kids here and
17:43 to see them engaged in some amazing learning experiences.
17:48 And I shared earlier in the workshop that I wanted to share an
17:52 email I received.
17:53 And it kind of complements our celebration of a galley, but in a
17:57 larger scale.
17:58 And this was an unsolicited email from a constituent in the
18:04 music across the state.
18:06 And his name is Jeremy Langford.
18:09 And he writes, if you’ll indulge me for a few minutes,
18:11 I just think it’s appropriate to elevate all of our music
18:15 teachers,
18:16 particularly when it’s shared from someone outside Brevard.
18:19 I wanted to send you a note of thanks to you, Miss Minnie Orr,
18:21 and
18:21 the Florida Band Masters leadership team of Jennifer Zahn and
18:25 Ian Schwinn for
18:26 your collective leadership that has allowed the high school band
18:29 programs to
18:29 continue performing at a consistently high level.
18:32 Recently, I had the honor of serving as an adjudicator for
18:36 your marching band music performance assessment at Melbourne
18:39 High.
18:39 And last week, I had the distinct privilege to serve as an adjudicator
18:44 for
18:44 the Florida Band Masters Association High School Concert Music
18:48 Performance Assessment.
18:49 It was a breath of fresh air to take part in both of these
18:53 experiences and
18:54 hear so many fine ensembles that are receiving quality
18:57 instruction on a daily basis.
18:59 The amount of veteran leadership that gives back on a daily
19:02 basis to the young
19:03 educators is astounding and shows in every performance.
19:07 There is truly a wonderful brotherhood and
19:09 sisterhood among music educators within your district.
19:12 The recent pandemic has left negative marks on many music
19:15 programs
19:15 throughout our state that will take years to recuperate from.
19:18 And it is quite evident that the camaraderie, leadership, and
19:22 expertise within your school district has been a positive source
19:25 of encouragement and
19:26 empowerment for the young directors in Brevard schools.
19:30 You are all blessed to have such a special group of educators
19:34 that work in tandem to
19:35 ensure the students of Brevard are successful in the classroom,
19:39 stage, and
19:39 football field.
19:41 I trust that you will continue to throw every resource at your
19:43 disposal towards
19:44 the performing arts to continue this tradition of excellence.
19:48 Beyond being a bright light shining on behalf of Brevard County,
19:52 it is a model district for our state and more importantly, a
19:56 source of light and
19:57 inspiration for every student that is given the opportunity of a
20:00 lifetime
20:01 through these programs.
20:02 Bravo to Brevard schools bands, well done.
20:05 » [APPLAUSE]
20:11 » So I had to share that celebration of praise to our music
20:18 teachers.
20:18 I don’t know Mr. Langford, never met him that I know of.
20:22 And that was a wonderful email that showed up over spring break.
20:26 And I just felt it appropriate to share and
20:29 give the shout out to our music teachers across this district.
20:32 And thank you for helping Brevard’s music programs be a
20:37 demonstration
20:38 of excellence across our community, and ultimately for the
20:41 benefit of the students
20:41 of Brevard, so thank you, Ms. Spel.
20:44 » Thank you, Dr. Mullins.
20:46 I just have one quick one tonight.
20:49 And that is I mentioned to you all before that Space Coast
20:51 Association of Realtors
20:52 is doing their prom princess event again to benefit our students.
20:56 It is scheduled for April 2nd from 10 AM to 3 PM at the Space
21:00 Coast Association of
21:01 Realtors office.
21:03 They are still in need of prom dresses and accessories.
21:06 So if anyone has extra dresses laying around, you can drop them
21:11 off at
21:12 the Space Coast Association of Realtors office from 9 to 5,
21:16 Monday through Friday.
21:17 That’s at 2950 North Wickham Road for anyone who’s not familiar.
21:22 They are very excited, they have hairstylists, they have makeup
21:25 artists
21:25 that will be there to really treat our kids like royalty while
21:29 they’re there.
21:30 And I shared with the board members, if you haven’t had a chance
21:32 to see your email
21:33 or follow up with me, Space Coast Area Transportation.
21:39 I was going with association transportation for one reason.
21:43 But Space Coast Area Transportation has agreed to assist with
21:46 transporting our
21:47 kids who may not be able to get to the event.
21:49 So what I’m looking at is three to four central pickup locations
21:54 throughout
21:54 the district where they could pick kids up there and take them
21:58 to the event and
21:59 then return them to that central pickup location.
22:01 They did say that they need a Walmart parking lot or
22:04 something like that where they can easily get the bus in and out.
22:07 So if you wouldn’t mind shooting me a text or
22:09 an email of some good locations in your area that would be kind
22:13 of close to
22:13 the students who are most likely to need assistance, I would
22:17 appreciate that.
22:18 And then I will follow up with Scott and, and bar and get all
22:22 that together.
22:23 So we do the only concern is that they may be the gates may be
22:27 locked.
22:30 So yeah, that and I didn’t want to have to bring stuff into
22:32 unlock the gates to get
22:34 a bus in so if you guys can help me with know you’re you’re most
22:38 familiar with your
22:38 areas and then I’d asked you guys last time to be available to
22:42 assist with
22:43 like getting ready for the event and day of event.
22:46 And I talked to Melissa yesterday or the day before.
22:50 They are solid on volunteers to prep for the event and for day
22:54 of event, but
22:54 they said they would absolutely welcome you guys stopping by on
22:58 Saturday to see
22:59 the event though, but thank you for your willingness.
23:03 Right.
23:05 All right, I think we are then going to move into our adoption
23:08 of the agenda.
23:09 Dr. Mullins.
23:10 » Miss Belford and members of the board on this evening’s
23:11 agenda.
23:12 We have administrative staff recommendations, 20 consent items,
23:15 one public hearing, one action item, one information item, and
23:19 one board discussion item.
23:21 Changes made to the agenda since release to the public include
23:24 the addition of F-15 Field Trip for
23:26 Edgewood Junior Senior High and Merritt Island High and K-33
23:31 Board Policy 2521.
23:33 Item A-7, administrative staff recommendations was revised.
23:38 » What are the wishes of the board?
23:39 » Move to approve.
23:40 » Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. McDougall.
23:42 Is there any discussion?
23:44 All in favor, please signify by saying aye.
23:46 » Aye.
23:47 » Any opposed?
23:47 Same sign.
23:48 Motion passes 5-0.
23:50 Dr. Mullins, will you please let us know about the
23:52 administrative staff recommendation?
23:54 » Yes, Madam Chair and members of the board, there is one item
23:56 for your consideration.
23:58 » I’ll take a motion.
23:59 » Approve.
24:00 » Second. » Moved by Ms. McDougall, seconded by Mr. Susan.
24:03 Is there any discussion?
24:05 All in favor, please signify by saying aye.
24:07 » Aye.
24:08 » Any opposed?
24:08 Same sign.
24:09 Motion passes 5-0.
24:12 Dr. Mullins.
24:14 » Thank you, Mrs. Belford.
24:15 I’d like to take this opportunity to recognize, congratulate,
24:18 and welcome Dr. Camille Lepps, who is here in the audience.
24:22 Thank you for being here tonight.
24:24 She is joining Team BPS as the principal of Madison Middle
24:27 School, effective April 11th.
24:31 Welcome to Brevard, Dr. Lepps, we are thrilled to have you join
24:34 the team.
24:35 And I know you’ve brought a small army of family and/or friends
24:40 in support.
24:41 And we’d like you to have the opportunity to introduce yourself,
24:44 and if you want to say a few words.
24:46 Mr. Bruno, assist you with the microphone.
24:50 » Thank you so much.
24:51 It’s a pleasure and an honor to be here.
24:53 And I feel so blessed to have the opportunity to be entrusted
24:57 with Madison Middle School.
25:00 I’d like to give a shout out to my family and friends.
25:04 My first educator, my mom, along with my dad, I hope I made you
25:08 proud today.
25:11 And it’s, I mean, words can’t express how much you’ve poured
25:16 into me over the years, mom.
25:19 And I continue every day as an educator to want to do the same
25:23 for my students.
25:24 Also with me is my best friend, Jennifer Brash, who’s been here
25:28 with me through thick and thin many years.
25:31 My principal, discovery middle school, Dr. Gloria Fernandez.
25:36 The last few years she’s given me lots of wisdom, knowledge, and
25:42 grace to grow as an administrator and a leader.
25:45 Mr. Wilson, Mike Wilson, my fellow AP, he is the embodiment of a
25:53 servant leader, and I appreciate that about Mr. Wilson.
25:56 Mr. Sanjay Brown, he was a fellow AP with me at Discovery Middle.
26:03 He’s now a proud principal himself, and he welcomed me with open
26:07 arms, and we’ve had lots of great times together.
26:10 So as much as I’m grateful for this experience, I’m also a
26:14 little saddened because I had a great family and support system
26:18 here.
26:18 And I look forward to, I’ve met a few people from my new team,
26:23 so I look forward to continuing the good work.
26:25 And we’re going to make a difference at Madison Middle.
26:28 Thank you, everyone.
26:29 » Thank you, Dr. Webb.
26:30 » Any of you guys that wants to come over and stay with us and
26:38 take a job over here, we would love to have, I mean, this is a
26:41 group of individuals.
26:43 You see how happy she is.
26:44 We would love to have you just as happy.
26:46 So any time you ever want to come over and cross that line, let
26:52 us know.
26:53 » Well, congratulations again.
26:55 Mrs. Balfour, I’d also like to take the opportunity on tonight’s
27:00 agenda is the recognition of the retirement of a gentleman who I
27:04 have had the privilege of knowing for many, many years.
27:08 A fellow educator, Mr. Todd Shear, Daniel Todd Shear, the
27:14 current principal at Central Middle School.
27:17 He’s not here this evening.
27:18 I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t watching this evening.
27:22 So Todd, congratulations on your retirement, 30 plus years of
27:28 serving students.
27:30 If you recognize the name Shearer, that’s because the Shearer
27:34 family is really a legacy leaving name in Brevard Public Schools.
27:39 Todd’s father served as an educator at Brevard, I don’t know,
27:43 probably close to 40 years, Dr. Dan Shear.
27:47 But Todd, you have carried on the family name with tremendous
27:53 honor and impact.
27:54 And you certainly have made a wonderful impact on setting the
27:58 standard of excellence across the schools that you’ve served,
28:01 whether it was as a teacher or as an assistant principal, and
28:05 for the last many, many years as a principal.
28:08 You’ve been an inspiration to many.
28:09 We thank you for your great work and your leadership and wish
28:13 you the best in your retirement.
28:15 But I know you will be working hard to the very last day at
28:19 Central Middle School.
28:21 And if you go visit Mr. Shear, wear your running shoes, because
28:25 he moves fast and he gets a lot done.
28:27 So Todd, we appreciate you and wish you the best.
28:32 » Thank you, Dr. Nolan.
28:35 » Hey, Ms. Belford, I do have to say something on Mr. Shear.
28:40 Mr. Shear is the reason I’m sitting in the chair today.
28:43 So in 2005, I applied for a job at Space Coast Middle/High
28:48 School on the six day count.
28:51 And I walked into an office, had never been a teacher before,
28:55 was coming from the private sector, but knew I wanted to teach.
28:58 And this guy across from me went through my interview and he
29:02 grilled me.
29:03 And he says, I think we’ve got a position for you.
29:05 And he gave me a key and I walked up into my room and I sat
29:08 there and I was deathly afraid trying to put some stuff together.
29:11 And he came by and he rode my you know what for about six
29:14 straight months with here’s what your lesson plans look like,
29:18 this is what you have.
29:19 And you want to talk about having energy?
29:21 That man has more energy than me times ten.
29:24 And he literally gave me and made me become the great teacher
29:27 that I was.
29:28 Single handedly, the individual that started my career and made
29:32 me who I was as a teacher.
29:34 And then his father, like you were saying, became my mentor when
29:38 I became an AP teacher.
29:40 So as I was teaching advanced placement, he is known as the godfather
29:44 for American history for AP.
29:46 And he taught me all the things that I knew, which made me a
29:49 great American history teacher for advanced placement also.
29:53 Mr. Shearer, I know you’re watching tonight and if not, I’m
29:55 going to clip it for you and send it to you.
29:56 Thank you for giving me a great career. This is the greatest
29:58 thing that could ever happen to me, man.
30:00 So thank you. Thank you, Mr. Susan.
30:08 All right. We are now at the public comment portion of the
30:11 meeting for the speakers on agenda items.
30:13 We have five speakers. Therefore, each speaker will receive
30:16 three minutes.
30:17 Please note the time is per speaker, not per agenda item.
30:20 Topics not specific to agenda items will be moved to the non
30:23 agenda portion of the meeting.
30:25 We have a clock in front of me to help you keep track of your
30:27 time.
30:27 When your time is over, you’ll be asked to stop and allow the
30:30 next speaker his or her turn.
30:31 Always keep in mind that reasonable decorum is expected and your
30:35 statement should be directed to the board chair.
30:38 The chair may interrupt, warn or terminate a participant’s
30:40 statement when time is up.
30:42 It’s personally directed, abusive, obscene or irrelevant.
30:45 But an individual not observed proper etiquette. The chair may
30:48 request the individual to leave the meeting.
30:50 I’ll call up three speakers at a time. And if you all could get
30:54 on the east wall over there so we can move through.
30:58 Our first three speakers are Anthony Calucci, Katie Delaney and
31:14 Sarah Murci.
31:18 And Mr. Colucci, before you get started, I have on here H 13,
31:22 but I think that’s supposed to be F 13.
31:24 Is that correct? OK, thank you. My name is Anthony Clutie.
31:30 I’m the president of the FTE addressing F 13 instructional staff
31:35 recommendations.
31:37 As I look at tonight’s resignations, I am reminded that this
31:40 year has been one of the most challenging years for our teachers
31:44 and staff.
31:45 I know you all recognize this, but I will keep it front and
31:48 center on your radar as we’re losing so many teachers and staff.
31:52 Our teachers are in dire need of help and changes. I received an
31:57 email that I wanted to share that articulates what our teachers
32:01 are feeling.
32:02 The email says, I can honestly say I’ve been I’ve been thinking,
32:06 how can I make it 52 more days to finish this year?
32:10 I wish we had mental health days built in instead of conscious
32:13 discipline or professional development day where we show up with
32:17 our growing to do list.
32:19 And the districts and staff volunteers to help us grade, copy or
32:22 take care of paperwork, staff shortages, heavy IEP, 504 loads
32:27 without consistent support.
32:29 All the required testing schedule feels like we are always
32:33 testing, which, you know, is an extra challenge when you have
32:36 students who need extra time and other accommodations.
32:39 Large class sizes, learning gaps and discipline issues. This is
32:43 my 19th year teaching and I’ve never felt so challenged and
32:47 unsuccessful.
32:48 My classroom used to be my happy place. And now most days I
32:53 leave exhausted and defeated.
32:56 With that said, I ask that this board continues to focus on this
33:01 issue.
33:02 And I want to say on behalf of BFT, thank you, teachers and
33:06 staff for sticking with BPS through these difficult times.
33:10 We’ve seen your hard work and we’ve seen that you’ve gone above
33:13 and beyond for our community.
33:15 And we appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Cloutier. Mr.
33:24 Laney.
33:31 Well, my speech isn’t loading. I’m Katie Delaney. I am here not
33:37 representing any organization.
33:42 I would like to speak about the board policy that just got added
33:46 to the agenda last second.
33:48 That’s I really wish you guys wouldn’t do that. One thing I do
34:00 want to say yay about is.
34:04 At 17, the learning centers for Brevard after school tutoring, I
34:09 think that’s great. I would love to see how the logistics of all
34:14 that is going to be done.
34:16 And yeah, I really hope that that’s that’s something that that
34:22 we can pull off.
34:23 I would also like to speak on F28 outside counsel. We now have
34:28 two lawyers sitting in this room, a team of lawyers that was
34:33 retained in Tallahassee and now a second large law firm that is
34:39 now retained out of Fort Myers.
34:42 Two hundred and fifty dollars for each lawyer, one hundred and
34:47 forty dollars for each paralegal and then food transportation
34:52 accommodations.
34:54 I mean, we are wasting so much money on this. If you guys would
34:59 just follow the law.
35:02 30, I would like to request that the language has changed to
35:08 speak about the specifics of how you guys are going to
35:14 communicate with parents and.
35:20 Also, what what experts are going to be brought in and what are
35:26 you guys vote on each individual expert?
35:31 If that expert is found to have to be funded by a special
35:33 interest group, is that going to be brought into consideration?
35:38 Whether or not that expert is hired. And for each one of these
35:42 experts, is there going to be parent notifications sent out for
35:46 whatever their evaluation is?
35:48 And will there be a parental opt out sent out with that parent
35:52 notification? Thank you so much.
35:55 Thank you, Miss Delaney. Miss Marski is approaching our last two
35:58 speakers are Karen Colby and Diane Haynes, if you wouldn’t mind
36:01 getting on deck.
36:02 Miss Marski, whenever you’re ready. Thank.
36:10 I’m not going to see your face other than the monitor. Thank you.
36:14 Good evening, Madam Chair and board. My name is Sarah Marski,
36:17 registered voter, taxpayer, wife, constituent, mother to two
36:21 children and BPS and in district two for school board.
36:24 I’m glad we are focusing on prior to prioritizing the BPS budget.
36:29 I’ve had major concerns as to how this board spends our money.
36:33 As I have said in the past, you are fiduciaries and for an oath
36:36 to act in the best interest of your stakeholders and taxpayers
36:40 of Brevard County.
36:41 I say no to a millage tax increase and yes to a forensic audit
36:47 on the BPS budget.
36:50 Madam Chair, do I need to remind your board members what a fiduciary
36:54 is and the responsibilities that would entail as they are being
36:57 sworn into office?
36:59 I hope with all the building projects we have that BPS is
37:03 prioritizing roofs and ceilings and AC repairs.
37:06 As both of my children have gone without AC at their schools,
37:09 one had to wear a mask and no AC while it was 90 degrees out and
37:13 was suffocating trying to learn math.
37:15 I hope this board continues to stay in compliance with the FDOE
37:19 and state law and not run the risk of having funding taken away
37:22 from the school district.
37:24 I understand that the money was returned to the district after
37:27 the district removed their illegal mask mandate.
37:29 However, I as well as many others feel that the three board
37:32 members broke their corporate fiduciary responsibility when they
37:36 chose to vote for to force facemask our children illegally.
37:40 I understand the board is choosing to not use that language
37:42 anymore, but I always will.
37:44 Another thing I’d like to address is why the taxpayers need to
37:47 pay so much additional money for outside counsel.
37:49 We have two attorneys that we pay for, one that defends the
37:52 school board members and one that works for the county.
37:56 When the school board chooses to go after gray areas of the law,
37:59 the taxpayer should not be on the hook to pay for the mistakes
38:02 that the majority of the school board makes.
38:04 I still haven’t had anyone follow up with me on the government
38:07 vehicle fleet agreement from January.
38:09 Along with your presentation, taxpayers should not have to FOIA
38:12 or PRR itemized expenditures at our own expense.
38:15 We should also be able to see the bids on projects BPS is
38:18 contracting out.
38:20 The stakeholders, taxpayers, voters, and constituents of Brevard
38:23 County are asking for more transparency about where exactly our
38:26 money is going.
38:27 The voters, taxpayers, and constituents of Brevard County are
38:31 paying very close attention to how school board members and the
38:35 district spend our money.
38:36 And what laws they are following, and what legal and political
38:39 gray areas this board is going after at the taxpayer’s expense,
38:43 especially those paying close attention to the school board
38:46 races this election cycle.
38:48 I recommend those running for reelection follow the law and stop
38:51 pursuing legal gray areas for political reasons on the taxpayer
38:55 dime.
38:55 Let’s use the taxpayer money to focus on facilitating serving
38:58 every student with excellence as a standard.
39:00 Thank you.
39:01 » Thank you, Ms. Marski.
39:03 Ms. Colby?
39:06 » Hi. Good evening, everybody.
39:15 I put two agenda items on there.
39:17 One, I forget the number of it, Mr. Chair.
39:21 It had to do with the track resurfacing of Vera expenditures.
39:27 Okay. I would like to speak up in favor of promoting Titusville
39:31 to have, I mean Rockledge
39:33 to have a brand new track before we expend extra funds on
39:36 schools without such facilities.
39:39 We’ve been promising for years to try to make things more equal.
39:42 And the school that has the best runners in the state long
39:45 distance year after year after year consistently certainly
39:49 deserves their own track.
39:50 I know they practice over here sometimes at Vera, but I don’t
39:53 think that’s fair because they’re not Vera Hawks.
39:56 They’re Rockledge Raiders.
39:58 That would meant a lot to me and also if we could get some more
40:03 of the facilities upgraded at the other schools like beach
40:06 volleyball has been requested from several schools.
40:09 I hear it is being installed at satellite, but I don’t think the
40:12 county is paying for it.
40:14 So I would sure like to use the money that would have gone to
40:16 satellite and put that towards the Rockledge track fund because
40:20 they need a track.
40:22 They don’t have anything and these guys need their college hopes
40:26 and gals, excuse me.
40:27 The other thing I was hoping to talk about was the increase in
40:30 millage rate, and I think that’s number.
40:34 Not on the agenda.
40:35 It’s a funding the F20.
40:38 OK, let’s go with F28 funding.
40:43 F28 is legal service.
40:44 OK, that’s the one.
40:46 Yeah, I was hoping we were going to spend a lot of money on
40:48 outside legal services because we have great, great attorneys
40:52 already employed.
40:53 Mr. Gibbs is one of them, and I don’t know the name of the other
40:56 one,
40:56 but I’ve admired their professionalism. I don’t know why we need
41:00 all the extra attorneys right now,
41:02 because the two we have seem accurate enough if we hadn’t gone
41:05 and broke the governor’s law, maybe we wouldn’t need all the
41:08 extra attorneys.
41:09 That’s just my point. The kids shouldn’t have to suffer for that
41:13 in talking about the funding of these issues.
41:16 I don’t think half the people in this county understand fully
41:19 how many attorneys are needed at this time and for what purpose.
41:22 It has nothing to do with the kids. It has to do with mandatory
41:25 mass in violation of the governor’s law.
41:27 There’s so many lawsuits pending. I’ve lost track. I think that’s
41:31 everything I’m allowed to talk about right now.
41:34 My biggest thing is not to increase any of our money’s going out
41:38 until we can say where all the money is at right now.
41:41 I’d like to ask for a forensic audit. Thank you. Thank you, Ms.
41:45 Colby.
41:45 Ms. Haynes.
41:52 Good evening, Diana Haynes. Well, everything I was going to say
41:55 has been said.
41:57 But I would like to make a point or reiterate on the points
42:02 about increasing millage or anything to the taxpayers.
42:06 It’s not our responsibility to pay for your folly. Two attorneys
42:10 to represent a board should be sufficient.
42:13 And if we have to look outside of the capable attorneys that you
42:13 have now, then you need to know why.
42:21 And I think the taxpayer deserves to know exactly how many
42:25 lawsuits are against the board right now and what these lawsuits
42:29 are currently costing us.
42:31 I personally don’t know. I only know of one, and that is Sophia’s
42:36 lawsuit that I’m very familiar with.
42:40 Taxpayers are tapped out. We’re paying four dollars plus and it
42:44 could go higher in gas, food, housing, everything. We are not
42:49 going to pay for your mistakes.
42:51 So I hope you guys are able to find the funding someplace else,
42:55 because I don’t think you’ll get anything approved by the
42:58 taxpayers in regards to any types of millage hikes or tax
43:02 increases.
43:03 Thank you. Thank you, Miss Haynes. All right. That concludes our
43:07 public comments on agenda items. We thank you for your
43:11 willingness to address us in this public manner.
43:13 That’s going to move us into the consent agenda. Dr. Mullins.
43:16 There are 20 agenda items under the consent agenda.
43:20 Does any board member wish to pull any item from the consent
43:33 agenda? After we have a motion to approve the consent.
43:43 Then I will entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda as
43:39 presented.
43:40 Moved by Ms. McDougall, seconded by Ms. Campbell, is there any
43:44 discussion?
43:44 Yes, please.
43:45 Ms. Campbell.
43:46 Mr. Gibbs, there was a conversation last time we had a contract,
43:50 a legal counsel, and then
43:51 we had it again tonight.
43:52 I think there’s some confusion.
43:54 It’s my understanding, and I’m going to ask you questions that I
43:57 already know the answer
43:58 to.
43:59 Is BPS always utilized outside counsel for different purposes?
44:04 Yes.
44:05 Some of those purposes would be sometimes we have employees who
44:08 have to have their wages
44:09 garnished, and we have to have counsel handled.
44:11 I usually file the wage garnishment.
44:13 Right, but can you give us some of the things that typically
44:15 year-to-year, outside of this
44:17 year or last year, that we use outside counsel for?
44:20 Just a short list.
44:22 Car accidents for tort purposes.
44:24 We have kids get injured at schools.
44:26 We have tort lawyers handle those issues.
44:28 We have a labor and employment counsel who handle union issues,
44:31 because I’m conflicted
44:32 out on bargaining issues.
44:34 ESE.
44:36 We have ESE counsel that specializes in ESE law in Florida, so
44:41 those counsels are there.
44:43 That’s Sniff and Spellman, our attorney.
44:45 They’re in Orlando.
44:47 You have other counsels.
44:49 If teachers get into trouble and it’s part of their job duties
44:52 and they get sued by somebody,
44:53 we provide representation to them.
44:55 I cannot provide that representation to them, it’s a conflict,
44:58 so we have different issues
44:59 that arise throughout the year.
45:01 We used to do engagement letters.
45:04 They were handled through engagement letters with the district,
45:06 and I am bringing all of
45:07 those in under contract so that we aren’t using engagement
45:10 letters anymore, and there’s
45:11 formalized contract documenting who’s on the roster for
45:16 attorneys.
45:16 That’s why we’re seeing so many.
45:17 And when you say engagement letters, like you were doing every
45:19 time we needed outside
45:19 counsel, you had to do engagement letters every single time.
45:21 Every case, yes, you would have that, and then you have five
45:23 engagement letters for
45:24 five different cases that you have to track, like how much is
45:27 being spent on.
45:28 Now there’s just one contract that governs that counsel’s use of,
45:31 or the district’s use
45:32 of that counsel.
45:33 All right.
45:34 And would you say that this year we have any, I know the budget
45:38 ranges from year to year,
45:39 but would you say that we’re, our expenditures this fiscal year
45:44 are outside of the usual
45:46 in any particular way that we spend on outside counsel?
45:49 I know it’s hard to say because the year’s not over, but.
45:52 Right.
45:53 It’s probably a little up right now from year to year, but I’ve
45:56 only been here two years.
45:57 So compared to last year, we’re probably up a little bit on the
46:00 numbers, but as far as
46:01 day-to-day tort laws and things, bus accidents seem to be some
46:05 of the biggest areas that
46:06 we have.
46:07 Thank you.
46:08 Can I ask a question?
46:12 So are we up because of lawsuits about masks?
46:16 We have two pending cases on masks right now.
46:20 So yeah, one pending case, we had one that’s already closed out.
46:24 Okay.
46:25 And did we have the payout because of that?
46:30 There’s still one still active.
46:31 One was dismissed.
46:33 Okay.
46:34 And is it odd for other government entities such as county
46:38 commission to have outside
46:40 legal representation for certain matters?
46:42 No, it depends on the size.
46:44 Like some, if they have like a large in-house, then they do it
46:48 in-house.
46:49 Miami Dade schools, I think has 11 to 13 attorneys and they do
46:54 theirs in-house.
46:55 Broward has, I want to say eight to 12.
46:57 They do theirs mostly in-house.
46:59 They still farm some of theirs out.
47:01 How many do we have?
47:02 Just two right now.
47:04 Valerie’s last day is Friday, so she will no longer be here, so
47:08 it will be back to just
47:09 me.
47:10 Yes.
47:11 So I cannot do all of that litigation yet.
47:14 Thanks.
47:15 Any additional discussion?
47:17 Yeah, I think we can, one of the things you can do is, you
47:21 already have a working list
47:23 of description, worker’s comp, you know what I mean, whatever it
47:26 is, outside counsel, who
47:28 it is, and then ongoing or close.
47:30 That would help.
47:31 I don’t maintain all of those.
47:33 Like a lot of that goes through the risk management through
47:35 insurance.
47:36 So it’s actually paid through insurance the district has.
47:39 Sure.
47:40 So that would be through them.
47:41 I maintain the active litigation that comes in.
47:44 There it is.
47:45 You can get that list, just email to us, that way everybody can
47:49 see it, and that would be
47:51 good.
47:52 All right.
47:53 I know.
47:56 Relax.
47:57 Any additional discussion?
47:58 All right.
47:59 I have a motion and a second.
48:00 All in favor, please signify by saying aye.
48:01 Aye.
48:02 Any opposed?
48:03 Same sign.
48:04 Motion passes 5-0.
48:05 All right.
48:06 Now we will hold a public hearing on board policy 2605, followed
48:10 by board vote.
48:11 Is there anyone present who wishes to address board policy 2605,
48:16 research and evaluation?
48:18 Anyone present who wishes to address board policy 2605, research
48:23 and evaluation?
48:25 Ms. Delaney?
48:33 I was – I could be wrong, but I was under the assumption that
48:37 this had to go through
48:38 further board exploration.
48:43 And from the inception of this policy, none of the issues that
48:50 many of us brought forth
48:53 with this policy have been talked about from – I haven’t
48:58 personally received any correspondence.
49:02 So is the board going to work on communication with parents, and
49:07 will an opt-out be easily
49:09 accessible?
49:11 Because the website is very hard to navigate, and, you know, the
49:27 language in this policy
49:27 doesn’t say how you guys are going to communicate with parents,
49:31 just that you will.
49:32 So I guess I’m just looking for more transparency on that.
49:37 Thank you, Ms. Delaney.
49:40 Anyone else that wishes to speak to board policy 2605, research
49:44 and evaluation?
49:45 Ms. Marski.
49:46 Good evening, Madam Chair and board.
49:53 I was unaware that there were changes to the agenda item, which
49:56 I find highly unacceptable,
49:57 although I understand the board as a whole did vote on that
50:01 tonight to approve that.
50:03 By law, the public should have a week at least to look at the
50:07 agenda and speak to agenda
50:09 items.
50:10 Ms. Marski, I’m going to stop you, because there was no change
50:13 to this.
50:13 Oh, it’s on the agenda?
50:17 That’s on the – oh, thank you.
50:23 Is there anyone present who wishes to address board policy 2605,
50:26 research and evaluation?
50:27 All right.
50:28 Then I will entertain a motion.
50:29 Move to approve.
50:30 Move by Ms. Jenkins.
50:31 Seconded by Ms. McDougall.
50:32 Is there any discussion?
50:33 All in favor, please signify by saying aye.
50:34 Aye.
50:35 Any opposed?
50:36 Same sign.
50:37 Motion passes 5-0.
50:38 Ms. Campbell.
50:39 Just along with each policy, there’s administrative procedures,
50:45 so people can look it up, and
50:47 there’s actually a section in the administrative procedures,
50:59 which is more of the how, whereas
51:01 the policy is the what, that describes parent notification if
51:05 they’re students, and so all
51:07 of that is in there.
51:08 I encourage people to look at our policy and procedures page,
51:11 and you can look at the administrative
51:13 procedures associated with the policy.
51:14 Maybe that will help clear things up.
51:15 Thank you, Ms. Campbell.
51:16 Thank you.
51:17 Dr. Mullensby, please let us know about the item under the
51:19 action portion of tonight’s
51:21 agenda.
51:22 Yes, ma’am.
51:23 Tonight’s action item is to approve procurement solicitations.
51:26 Do I have a motion?
51:28 Move to approve.
51:29 Second.
51:30 Move by Mr. Susan.
51:31 Seconded by Ms. Campbell.
51:32 Is there any discussion?
51:33 All in favor, please signify by saying aye.
51:35 Aye.
51:36 Any opposed?
51:37 Same sign.
51:38 Motion passes 5-0.
51:39 We’ll move on to the information agenda, which includes items
51:42 for board review and may be
51:43 brought back for action at a subsequent meeting.
51:45 No action will be taken on these items tonight, Dr. Mullens.
51:49 There is one item under the information category.
51:51 Does any member wish to discuss this item?
51:54 Okay.
51:55 We are now at board member reports and discussion points.
51:59 One item was added to the agenda, which is board policy 2521.
52:03 Do any other board members have information to report or discuss
52:07 in this section?
52:08 I have two little things.
52:10 You have two?
52:11 Take a listen to me.
52:12 And Ms. Campbell has one.
52:13 Yep.
52:14 Okay.
52:15 So I’m going to go ahead and get started with 2521.
52:18 So this is our policy with regard to removal of books.
52:28 And we have a bit of a situation, I guess you could call it,
52:32 because our current policy
52:35 really only speaks to a request for one book to be removed from
52:40 one library.
52:41 And so it doesn’t speak to the current situation that we’re
52:47 facing.
52:48 So I asked Dr. Mullens to kind of give us a rundown on what the
52:53 challenges are so that
52:55 the board can kind of give some direction as to where we need to
52:58 go from here.
52:59 Dr. Mullens, do you want to take it from there?
53:01 Sure.
53:02 Thank you, Mrs. Belford.
53:04 So I know the board is aware that there has been a constituent
53:08 that has presented books
53:09 for consideration to be removed from libraries in the schools
53:14 that they happen to be at.
53:16 Our current policy, 2521, is written around a book by a parent
53:24 at a school and does not
53:27 facilitate a process by which a list of books is reviewed.
53:31 As you’re aware, the review process is quite extensive involving
53:36 committees, first at the
53:37 school level, if it doesn’t pass the informal process according
53:44 to policy.
53:45 It then can be appealed to a district process.
53:50 Given our current situation, I didn’t want the board to believe
53:55 staff was able to proceed
53:57 with following board policy when, in fact, the current situation
54:00 doesn’t align with board
54:02 policy.
54:03 So asking the board to clarify, there’s kind of a fork in the
54:09 road, do we respond to our
54:11 constituent to follow the current board policy, which would
54:16 require submitting a book challenge
54:20 form for each book at each school that book may be at, which
54:25 would then initiate several
54:27 different book review committees across schools, potentially
54:32 leading to appeal processes to
54:35 district committees, or would the board want to take time to
54:42 review or amend the current
54:45 board policy?
54:46 Of course, there is the board-required time period, hearing
54:50 requirements, and so on that
54:52 that would require, and talking with Mr. Gibbs, it’s
54:56 approximately a 90-day timeline to amend
54:59 board policy, just as a reminder.
55:04 Interestingly, prior to this morning, NEOLA did not have policy
55:11 suggestions or a template
55:13 for us to consider to accommodate a different process than what
55:18 we already have, but just
55:20 literally this morning, we received an update from NEOLA that
55:23 they have provided some language,
55:26 it provides some adaptation to our current policy that would
55:32 prompt us to look at maybe
55:34 an alternate process if there is multiple books that are asking
55:39 to be reviewed and to
55:40 be potentially removed from all school media centers.
55:44 So I’m happy to answer any questions that I can, but really any
55:49 direction from the board,
55:52 do you want to stay with the current policy as it is written, or
55:56 do you want to consider
55:57 amending, and I can work with staff to bring forward a red line
56:04 version as soon as possible.
56:06 Dr. Mullins, would you also, I don’t know if the board members
56:11 are aware of the process
56:12 for parents to request that students not have access?
56:16 Yes.
56:17 Currently, and has been in place, parents right now can contact
56:22 their child’s school
56:23 and request that any book in the media center, currently in the
56:28 media center, be flagged
56:30 on their student’s checkout account, and they not have the
56:34 opportunity to check that book
56:35 out.
56:36 The only exception is we have an online book access system that
56:42 doesn’t go through the
56:44 media specialist, but a parent can request that their student
56:47 not have access to the
56:48 e-books as well, but we can’t flag individual books through the
56:55 e-system, and the e-system
56:58 includes the public library system as well.
57:01 So parents need to understand that they would need to monitor
57:03 their child’s access to the
57:04 public library system books also.
57:09 But again, parents can right now very simply notify the media
57:13 specialist at their child’s
57:15 school that they want to have a book, a genre, or an author not
57:20 made available to their student
57:22 for checkout through the media center, and if parents are not
57:27 aware of who their media
57:28 specialist, they can send an e-mail to the principal, and the
57:31 principal certainly will
57:32 forward that to the media specialist and make sure that that’s
57:34 addressed or taken care of.
57:36 Thank you, Dr. Mullins, and board members, I ask to have that
57:39 shared, because I didn’t
57:41 know if everyone was familiar with that process, not to suggest
57:44 that that’s the end-all be-all
57:46 solution, but I think that we have to factor all of it in as far
57:49 as the direction we’re
57:50 going to have to go, so who would like to speak?
57:55 Anyone?
57:56 Yeah.
57:58 So I would like to do whatever takes the least amount of time
58:02 and effort of our staff.
58:05 I think we’ve already spent too much time on this.
58:07 I think this is crazy.
58:10 I don’t know if we just got libraries in our schools over the
58:12 past 12 months, but there
58:14 was a person who sat on this board for four years who didn’t
58:16 have a problem with a library
58:17 book, who all of a sudden has an organization with no kids in
58:19 our public school that has
58:21 a problem with the library book.
58:24 It’s a complete and utter waste of our time.
58:32 The same people who come here and complain about that that are
58:34 emailing us these books
58:35 and these lists of books that they claim to have reviewed, 20
58:39 books in 12 days, claim
58:40 that this isn’t about a ban of books, so this isn’t a political
58:45 agenda, but if that wasn’t
58:46 the case, then we’d be a little bit more transparent, and
58:48 instead of making broad general statements
58:50 that these horrific pornographic books are accessible to
58:52 students, we’d have realistic
58:54 conversations that these are only available in our high schools
58:57 for our high school students
58:58 for the ages that are recommended for those books.
59:02 You can choose to not have your child read it.
59:05 If you feel so strongly about that, then I also feel strongly
59:08 about taking cell phones
59:09 away from your children the second they hit our campus.
59:11 They got access to TikTok, Snapchat, Facebook, YouTube.
59:15 If you’re cool with them having that, I’m not worried about them
59:20 reading a chapter book.
59:22 We’re so worried about parental involvement, parental discretion.
59:27 I’m all for it.
59:28 I’m with you.
59:29 Open up a backpack.
59:30 Have a conversation with your kid.
59:31 Ask them what book they checked out of the library.
59:33 Instead of forming an adult book group where you read about
59:37 young adult novels, maybe you
59:40 can sit alongside your child and read that same novel with them
59:43 and have a conversation,
59:44 or you can just opt them out of it.
59:47 You do not get to wear a shirt with the word liberty on it while
59:50 you’re practicing and
59:51 advocating censorship and you don’t get to do it for anybody
59:54 else’s children.
59:55 I don’t care, Mr. Susan.
59:57 You can huff and puff all you want.
59:58 No, I have one last thing to say.
1:00:00 I want to do whatever is the least amount of time and effort of
1:00:05 our staff because we
1:00:07 are so distracted by ridiculous political conversations.
1:00:13 You know who’s not reading these books?
1:00:15 Over 60% of our black students who are reading below grade level.
1:00:18 Can we focus our time and effort on things that actually matter
1:00:22 to our students in Brevard
1:00:24 Public Schools to complete and utter waste of time, complete and
1:00:28 utter waste of time?
1:00:29 Thank you, Ms. Jenkins.
1:00:32 I’ll go next.
1:00:33 Ms. Campbell?
1:00:37 I would suggest that Florida Statute is not a complete and utter
1:00:41 waste of time or ridiculousness.
1:00:44 I am still not going to read it, but I’m going to say the
1:00:47 statute again, Florida Statute
1:00:49 847.012, but I’m going to read part of it because it’s not just
1:00:54 about things that are
1:00:55 graphic or picture-wide.
1:00:57 It also says explicit and detailed verbal descriptions or
1:01:00 narrative accounts of all
1:01:02 these things that I can’t read in our…
1:01:04 All right, no, not all of them have, and that is harmful to
1:01:08 minors.
1:01:09 No.
1:01:10 I just looked up one today.
1:01:11 It was published in 2019.
1:01:12 Hold on.
1:01:13 I’m going to interrupt you both.
1:01:14 Thanks.
1:01:15 And I’m just going to ask that we not interrupt each other.
1:01:17 Okay?
1:01:18 Ms. Campbell?
1:01:19 And again, Section 5 specifically relates to us.
1:01:22 It means you can have it in a public library, you can have it in
1:01:24 your phone, but it says
1:01:25 an adult may not knowingly distribute to a minor on school
1:01:29 property or post on school
1:01:30 property any material described in Subsection 3, the part
1:01:33 everybody can go read at home
1:01:35 by themselves, as used in the subsection, and it talks about
1:01:38 what school property means.
1:01:39 It does not apply to the distribution or posting of school-approved
1:01:43 instructional materials
1:01:44 that, this is important, by design serve as a major tool for
1:01:49 assisting in the instruction
1:01:51 of a subject or course by school officers and all the other
1:01:56 people.
1:01:57 I took the time to read through the excerpts.
1:02:01 Now, I mean, I agree with every single book on every single list
1:02:03 that it’s something that
1:02:04 we need to look at, but there are some that right now, Dr. Mullins,
1:02:08 if you’re asking
1:02:08 for art, there are some right now that I don’t think we need to
1:02:11 wait until we get a policy
1:02:12 revised.
1:02:13 We had a book that we pulled off the shelf in the fall because
1:02:16 it was clearly in violation
1:02:18 of statute and our policy.
1:02:20 I also want to take as little time as possible getting this done
1:02:24 because I don’t think we
1:02:25 need to wait 90 days before we start doing something.
1:02:27 My preference would be, when we revised this policy last time,
1:02:30 we actually almost cut this
1:02:32 part out of doing the school review, and I asked specifically, “Can
1:02:34 we put that part
1:02:35 back in?” and we did.
1:02:38 Because we had school by school, I think we need to adjust the
1:02:41 policy so that when we
1:02:42 have cases like this, we can go ahead and do it at district
1:02:44 level because, like Dr.
1:02:46 Mullins said, it could very likely at school level, if it gets
1:02:49 rejected, then we have to
1:02:51 go school to school to school or it gets appealed to the
1:02:53 district and we’re going to have to
1:02:55 do it anyway.
1:02:56 I’d like to do it quickly, but I think that we have a prerogative
1:02:59 as a board, and Mr.
1:03:01 Gibson, correct me if I’m wrong, to go ahead and say, “Yes, let’s
1:03:03 go through the policy
1:03:04 revision process.”
1:03:05 So we have a method to deal with district-wide book reviews, but
1:03:11 also as a board, I would
1:03:13 suggest that we say, “Go ahead and start that process now,
1:03:16 whatever the process looks like,
1:03:18 and let’s start doing it even before we get the process in place,
1:03:22 before we get the policy
1:03:23 revised.”
1:03:24 That would be my request, is that we go ahead and start the
1:03:27 process so that we’re not revising
1:03:29 the policy over the next handful of board meetings and then
1:03:34 starting the committees
1:03:36 and whatever because there were, just to be honest, my eyeballs
1:03:43 and my conscience was
1:03:45 seared from reading some of the things that I was reading, and I
1:03:48 didn’t see much academic
1:03:50 thinking serves as a major tool, and I understand about what
1:03:53 people are exposed to other places,
1:03:56 and sometimes they’re even exposed to it in our classrooms, but
1:04:00 not only in this statute,
1:04:02 but in other statutes, it is listed that school boards, part of
1:04:05 our responsibility is to provide
1:04:07 the materials, and they refer back to this specific policy.
1:04:10 We cannot provide materials that are described in this statute,
1:04:16 and it’s all over, and 847.001
1:04:19 is a, if you need a more, the Florida definition of pornography,
1:04:24 it’s there.
1:04:25 We cannot offer that.
1:04:27 Public library is fine, and listen, I have three teenagers, and
1:04:29 I know what a minefield
1:04:30 it is to manage the YA section at a library, and I’m sitting on
1:04:34 there on my apps trying
1:04:35 to look up books just as fast as my kids can pull them off the
1:04:39 shelf.
1:04:39 I can’t read as fast as my kids and don’t have as much time,
1:04:42 well, I can read as fast
1:04:44 as them, but I don’t have enough time.
1:04:45 I can’t get through books as fast as they can, and, you know,
1:04:48 when they were little
1:04:49 I kept up, and I, you know, I had those conversations with my
1:04:54 kids.
1:04:55 And sometimes, you know, my kids have come to me and said, “Hey,
1:04:58 Mom, I’m giving this
1:04:59 book back to you because it has some stuff in here that’s not
1:05:03 very cool,” but you
1:05:04 know what?
1:05:05 That’s not the case for every family, and that was stuff not
1:05:08 from our school libraries
1:05:09 from the public library, but we do have, I feel very serious
1:05:12 about it, and it’s not
1:05:14 about politics, it is about our responsibility under the law to
1:05:18 make sure that what we’re
1:05:20 providing in our school libraries follows the law and is
1:05:25 responsible.
1:05:26 And we’re entrusted with people’s kids, our parents are trusting
1:05:30 us, and our trust
1:05:31 is being broken right and left.
1:05:34 And I think with this one we can hold on when the statute’s
1:05:36 pretty clear, and I, you know,
1:05:38 to quote the famous old, you know, Supreme Court justice who
1:05:41 said, you know, “I can’t
1:05:43 give you a description of pornography, but I know it when I see
1:05:46 it,” and I’m telling
1:05:47 you what, I saw it.
1:05:49 So I, again, my suggestion would be that we go ahead and start
1:05:53 the revision process so
1:05:55 we can get a district-wide review in place, but I would, if we
1:05:59 can, as a board, say, to
1:06:00 go ahead and start moving in that direction before we get the
1:06:03 policy, you know, in place,
1:06:05 I would like to do that.
1:06:06 Thank you, Ms. Campbell.
1:06:07 Mr. Susan, do you support Ms. Campbell?
1:06:13 Yeah, there’s no sense of any more support.
1:06:19 I just want to say I would like it to be, I believe we do need
1:06:23 to amend it, and I need
1:06:25 to do it, and I think we need to do it in a way that we are not
1:06:28 tying up our staff forever.
1:06:29 They’re already overworked.
1:06:31 We heard from Mr. Colucci, people are stretched to the limit.
1:06:35 I think we need to, I’m curious to look at Neola’s new revision.
1:06:40 I’m very curious about that, so I would like us to get started
1:06:44 on a revision, if we can.
1:06:47 And just food for thought, I think, you know what she said, Ms.
1:06:50 Campbell, about the famous
1:06:52 quote of the Supreme Court Justice, who said, you know, “I can’t
1:06:54 give you a definition,
1:06:56 but I know it when I see it,” and I think it is different for
1:07:00 different people.
1:07:01 I think that’s what I think we will probably agree to disagree,
1:07:05 but I think it’s different
1:07:07 for different people of what they believe that is pornographic
1:07:10 or upsetting to them.
1:07:15 Thank you, Ms. McDougall.
1:07:16 Ms. Campbell, Ms. Belfort, I think, so what I’m hearing
1:07:19 everybody say is that we want
1:07:20 to do less work on staff, which would mean that moving to the
1:07:25 district level for, instead
1:07:27 of having 100 schools protesting and all that other stuff and
1:07:30 going through the review process.
1:07:32 There’s a question I had, though, is that do you have to be a
1:07:34 parent of the school in
1:07:35 order to make that motion?
1:07:37 You do, right?
1:07:38 So, if there’s a – Yeah, I’ll just go real quick.
1:07:42 First off, there was some discussion about the Viera High track.
1:07:45 I appreciate the sentiments that were there.
1:07:48 Rockledge was actually placed first last year to go through, and
1:07:52 it actually has increased
1:07:53 costs by almost three times as much to do the project, so they’re
1:07:56 working on that ahead
1:07:58 of time.
1:07:59 So, those are already in the process, it’s already been paid for,
1:08:02 there’s already turning
1:08:03 dirt.
1:08:04 So, I hear you as far as because a lot of our – that was the
1:08:06 big thing that I was trying
1:08:07 to do years ago was Rockledge needs a track, so I appreciate
1:08:09 that, but I did want to let
1:08:10 you know that the Rockledge High School’s track underway, Vieras
1:08:15 won’t start until the
1:08:17 beginning of next year or something like that, so.
1:08:20 What’s that?
1:08:21 Yeah, so there’s a phased out system.
1:08:25 The other thing I wanted to do real quick is to let everybody
1:08:28 know that there was a
1:08:29 lot – I mean, it was the weirdest thing, I was getting a lot of
1:08:31 calls on the Viera
1:08:32 Middle School asking me questions about what’s happening, even
1:08:35 though we had only discussed
1:08:37 it today.
1:08:38 So, I just want to take a second and let everybody know that we
1:08:40 had a workshop today talking
1:08:41 about moving forward with the Viera Middle School, we’re trying
1:08:43 to figure out the funding
1:08:44 to try to open it in August of 2024, most – more than likely it’ll
1:08:47 be next door to
1:08:48 Viera High School, and the intent for the school district is –
1:08:51 and school board is
1:08:52 to open it as quickly as we can, no earlier than August of ‘24,
1:08:57 no later than August
1:08:58 of ‘25.
1:08:59 So, I just wanted to kind of give that outlook right there real
1:09:02 quick.
1:09:02 And then also, I just wanted to let everybody know, I’m going to
1:09:04 put together a group of
1:09:06 bipartisan, both sides, groups of parents to advise on a
1:09:09 multitude of different topics.
1:09:12 So, I’m going to put together athletics, discipline, all these
1:09:15 other pieces to listen to what their
1:09:17 concerns are, and work with them.
1:09:19 It’s just going to be people inside of my district on both sides.
1:09:21 I’ve reached out to all the groups, I’ve asked them to be a part
1:09:24 of it, and just to kind
1:09:26 of work with me.
1:09:27 So, if you see that, you understand what it is.
1:09:29 That’s it.
1:09:30 » Thank you, Mr. Peterson.
1:09:31 Campbell?
1:09:32 » Thank you.
1:09:33 And I’m sorry for not putting on the discussion before I was
1:09:36 trying to find a place, I was
1:09:37 hoping this afternoon’s workshop wouldn’t have been a place, but
1:09:40 we went long.
1:09:41 It was good discussion, but we went long.
1:09:44 I wanted to toss out an idea for policy 0169.1, our public
1:09:49 participation policy that we just
1:09:51 revised a couple times in the fall.
1:09:53 But now that we’ve had a couple months of having it how it is,
1:09:57 and we’ve had, you know,
1:10:01 the ire of different people focused at all of us at some point
1:10:04 or another in the last
1:10:05 few months, we are agenda, non-agenda.
1:10:11 I’m just sharing what I’ve seen, I think it’s working well and
1:10:14 what I think could be improved
1:10:15 on.
1:10:16 I think it’s still a good idea.
1:10:17 I like, you know, having it split so we can focus on the agenda
1:10:20 and not lose track of
1:10:22 what we’re going to be voting on that night in our business,
1:10:24 which is why we’re here.
1:10:25 We can do that at the beginning and non-agenda at the end.
1:10:30 But I’d like us to consider making a change to our non-agenda
1:10:35 time frame to mirror the
1:10:38 graduated time frame that we have for the agenda items with one
1:10:42 exception.
1:10:43 So for example, if we have, you know, the same thing, one to ten
1:10:49 non-agenda speakers,
1:10:51 three minutes, two to 22 minutes, you know, over 20, one minute,
1:10:55 back to one minute, with
1:10:57 the exception that the non-agenda would never get more than the
1:11:01 agenda.
1:11:01 So for example, if we have 12 people speaking on the agenda but
1:11:06 only five on the non-agenda,
1:11:08 the 12 would only get two minutes each, well then the non-agenda
1:11:11 also only gets two minutes.
1:11:12 They’re not going to get more than the agenda speakers.
1:11:13 So that’s why I wanted to toss that out there.
1:11:15 Just to, I kind of went back and tracked the last six meetings
1:11:20 that we’ve had since we
1:11:22 passed the policy.
1:11:23 We’ve had anywhere from three to ten agenda speakers, so every
1:11:27 time we’ve had the three
1:11:29 minutes on the agenda, we’ve had anywhere from five to 12 on the
1:11:34 non-agenda.
1:11:36 So some of them would have had, you know, in the fight with my
1:11:39 proposal, either have
1:11:40 had three minutes or two minutes for that.
1:11:43 So I think it would be a reasonable time amount, but you know,
1:11:47 we’ve had students, we’ve had
1:11:49 bus drivers, we’ve had other staff, we’ve had parents and
1:11:52 community members as well.
1:11:54 But just wanted to toss that out there to see, you know, as we
1:11:58 have gone through, if
1:11:59 there is any movement to make an adjustment.
1:12:01 You know, we said when we passed this, or I said when we passed
1:12:04 this, that none of our
1:12:05 policies are written in stone, they can all be revised, we
1:12:08 talked about revising one tonight.
1:12:10 So if anyone’s interested in that, and if you want to just think
1:12:14 about it and come back,
1:12:15 you know, if you want it for a while before you weigh in, but I
1:12:18 wanted to throw that idea
1:12:19 out there, just to leave everything else the same.
1:12:22 And I’ve already talked to Mr. Gibbs and Dr. Mullins, I mean, it’s
1:12:24 really our policy, but
1:12:26 I talked to Mr. Gibbs about it too, to see what he thought about
1:12:29 it, but as long as it
1:12:30 was very clear, again, to not, you know, our non-agenda servers
1:12:35 not to have more time than
1:12:37 this.
1:12:38 Maybe a–
1:12:39 I like it.
1:12:40 I’m sorry, Madam Chair.
1:12:41 I’m not asking you.
1:12:42 Okay.
1:12:43 I like it.
1:12:44 I’ll tell you where my heart went was when we had the bus
1:12:48 drivers that were on non-agenda,
1:12:51 they were coming in.
1:12:52 I wonder if there’s a way, if the board doesn’t want to move in
1:12:56 that direction, to allow our
1:12:58 employees some time to explain, because sometimes one minute
1:13:02 over a situation like what they
1:13:04 were dealing with might need a little bit of extra time.
1:13:07 And so any employee engagement situations, maybe we give them
1:13:11 the time.
1:13:12 So I love what you’re doing, but if the board doesn’t have
1:13:15 appetite to do that, I would
1:13:16 love to fall back on allowing employees that opportunity.
1:13:19 That’s all.
1:13:20 Well, you had mentioned something about that before, and I did
1:13:22 consider that.
1:13:23 The hard part about that for me is to decide which group of
1:13:28 stakeholders’ voice matters
1:13:29 most.
1:13:30 And that’s, you know–
1:13:31 I’m just trying to get some extra–
1:13:33 Because then I would like, okay, well, what about the students
1:13:34 when they come, because
1:13:35 we want to hear from the students.
1:13:36 What about– but then we’re, you know, we’re picking and
1:13:38 choosing, and that’s a really
1:13:40 hard decision for me.
1:13:41 If we can get where you’re going, I love it.
1:13:43 If we couldn’t, I was trying to get anything I could to give
1:13:46 people extra time.
1:13:47 That’s all.
1:13:48 Anybody else want to weigh in?
1:13:52 Yeah.
1:13:53 I don’t care.
1:13:54 I support it.
1:13:55 I’ve said it from day one.
1:13:56 It doesn’t make a difference.
1:13:57 I don’t know why we’re making a difference between the two.
1:13:58 We’re going to rank the first part.
1:13:59 We should just rank the second part.
1:14:00 It doesn’t matter.
1:14:01 So I like your clause that it shouldn’t be longer than the
1:14:04 agenda, because that doesn’t
1:14:07 make any sense for being penalized talking about the agenda if
1:14:09 there’s extra people.
1:14:11 I don’t mind.
1:14:12 Anybody else?
1:14:13 You’re fine either way.
1:14:22 Okay.
1:14:25 So it looks like you have majority consensus for the
1:14:29 recommendation.
1:14:30 So I’m hearing then that we need to ask Mr. Gibbs to– once
1:14:33 again, you’ll need to work
1:14:35 with Mr. Gibbs on language on the policy and then bring it
1:14:36 before the board for a work
1:14:37 session.
1:14:38 Thank you.
1:14:39 Appreciate that.
1:14:40 Okay.
1:14:41 All right.
1:14:42 So let’s move on to the next before we move into our non-agenda
1:14:49 speakers.
1:14:50 Okay.
1:14:51 Oh, I didn’t ask you, Dr. Mullins, did you have anything else to
1:14:56 add?
1:14:56 Sorry.
1:14:57 No, ma’am.
1:14:58 I’m fine.
1:14:59 Thank you.
1:15:00 Didn’t mean to skip over you there.
1:15:01 All right.
1:15:02 We’ll now hear the remaining speakers who signed up to comment
1:15:03 on non-agenda items.
1:15:04 Each speaker is limited to one minute.
1:15:06 We have a clock in front of me to help you keep track of your
1:15:08 time.
1:15:08 When your time is over, you’ll be asked to stop and allow the
1:15:10 next speaker his or her
1:15:11 turn.
1:15:12 We’ll hear from the speakers in the order in which they signed
1:15:14 up, including those who
1:15:15 may be waiting outside, but I don’t think we have anyone outside
1:15:18 tonight.
1:15:19 As stated earlier, reasonable decorum is expected at all times,
1:15:21 and your statement should be
1:15:22 directed to the board chair.
1:15:24 Should audience participation interfere with speakers being
1:15:26 heard or hearing me, I’ll be
1:15:27 forced to clear the room.
1:15:29 When I call your name, please line up along the east wall of the
1:15:31 boardroom to facilitate
1:15:32 the smooth transition of speakers.
1:15:34 We’ll begin with our first three speakers, Mr. David Meter,
1:15:37 Sebastian Cook, and Katie
1:15:38 Delaney.
1:15:39 Mr. Meter, whenever you are ready, sir.
1:15:45 Good evening.
1:15:51 The current school board policy allows students to choose which
1:16:02 bathroom, locker room to enter
1:16:05 based on what gender they feel that they are.
1:16:08 This policy must be followed by school personnel or face
1:16:13 disciplinary action.
1:16:15 An outstanding educator named Matt Woodside opposes this on the
1:16:20 grounds of safety for
1:16:21 all students, trans or not.
1:16:25 Because of this, he and any other educator can be disciplined if
1:16:29 they do not follow this
1:16:30 terrible policy.
1:16:32 So until the policy can be changed, parents need to be notified
1:16:38 when this situation takes
1:16:40 place on campus.
1:16:42 This is to protect all students and educators.
1:16:46 Thank you.
1:16:47 Thank you, Mr. Meter.
1:16:50 Sebastian Cook.
1:16:51 Good evening.
1:16:52 My name is Sebastian Cook.
1:16:53 Before I get started with the speech that I wrote, I would just
1:17:00 like to say that I’m
1:17:02 myself.
1:17:03 I’m trans and I don’t really understand why everybody is so
1:17:06 concerned as to where I pee.
1:17:08 But anyway, I am an openly LGBTQ student at my high and I have
1:17:13 been faced with a lot of
1:17:15 hate and harassment.
1:17:16 I get called slurs in the hallway.
1:17:18 I get yelled at in the parking lot by other students and
1:17:20 continue to have teachers that
1:17:21 showed their disagreement and disrespect towards me.
1:17:25 I’m not the only student who faces this.
1:17:27 Every day, LGBTQ students in Brevard are harassed and face
1:17:30 constant homophobia in the hallways
1:17:31 classrooms and everywhere else on campus.
1:17:34 Caring about your students means caring for all of them, not
1:17:36 just the straight cisgender.
1:17:39 Statistics show that just one supporting adult in an LGBTQ youth
1:17:43 life reduces their risk
1:17:44 of suicide by 40 percent.
1:17:46 So please show us that you care about us and help in schools
1:17:49 because we deserve to exist
1:17:50 safe.
1:17:51 Thank you.
1:17:52 Thanks, Sebastian.
1:17:53 As Mr. Laney’s approaching, the next three speakers will be
1:17:56 Matthew Woodside, Nancy Reagan
1:17:57 and Karen Colby.
1:17:59 Good evening.
1:18:01 I’m here to speak about public trust.
1:18:04 I want to thank Ms. Campbell for requesting that the public
1:18:11 comment policy be amended.
1:18:13 I think that’s great and a great first step to healing public
1:18:18 trust, so thank you for
1:18:20 that.
1:18:21 Today I learned that BPS has 380 something million dollars in
1:18:30 debt, and the reason why
1:18:33 we bring up things like the cars and the legal fees and the this
1:18:36 and the that is because
1:18:37 of the lack of transparency.
1:18:39 And with that mountain of debt that was caused more than a
1:18:44 decade ago, we’re still paying
1:18:46 for it.
1:18:47 We will be paying for it, and if we are not responsible with our
1:18:51 funds, our grandkids
1:18:52 and so on, we just want transparency.
1:18:55 We need a forensic audit of the budget.
1:18:57 Please.
1:18:58 Thank you.
1:18:59 Thank you, Mr. Laney.
1:19:00 Matthew Woodside.
1:19:01 Good evening, my name is Matthew Woodside, and as an educator, I
1:19:13 spoke last month to
1:19:14 inform parents and the community that students are daily using
1:19:16 restrooms and locker rooms
1:19:17 of the opposite sex across our district and teachers are
1:19:20 required to allow it under threat
1:19:21 of discipline.
1:19:22 Today, I appeal to this board and to lawmakers that until this
1:19:25 dangerous policy is corrected,
1:19:27 you institute a new policy requiring schools to notify parents
1:19:30 when this specifically takes
1:19:31 place on their child’s campus during COVID.
1:19:33 An email was sent to all parents when a student and their child’s
1:19:36 school tested positive,
1:19:37 affording parents their right to make an educated decision as to
1:19:40 whether they felt safe to send
1:19:41 their child to school, yet students across this district are
1:19:44 daily changing their clothes
1:19:45 in front of the opposite sex without parent notification.
1:19:48 This district’s policies are actively violating the safety of
1:19:50 our students, and its lack of
1:19:51 transparency is violating the trust of our parents.
1:19:54 Parents deserve to know when these harmful practices are taking
1:19:56 place on their child’s
1:19:57 campus so they can once again make an educated decision as to
1:20:00 whether Brevard Public Schools
1:20:01 is a safe place to send their child, and I spoke at length this
1:20:04 morning to Representative
1:20:05 Randy Fine, and he’s on board.
1:20:07 Thank you.
1:20:08 Thank you, Mr. Woodside.
1:20:09 Nancy Reagan.
1:20:10 Good evening.
1:20:11 If the district was unaware that Agricultural Commissioner Nikki
1:20:19 Fried was coming to a school
1:20:22 board meeting in February, many people attending the meeting
1:20:25 certainly knew she was coming.
1:20:27 Now, I welcome any elected official to participate in our
1:20:30 meetings, however, there were bus drivers
1:20:32 outside of the building who needed to address the board and did
1:20:36 not get a chance to, due
1:20:38 to those that were here to see Nikki Fried.
1:20:40 This is why we need to redo the public input policy so everyone
1:20:43 has a chance to have their
1:20:45 voices heard, especially with something as important as our bus
1:20:49 drivers.
1:20:49 I had the privilege in Tallahassee to speak to State
1:20:52 Representative Soroy about the medical
1:20:55 form that has gone out district-wide to parents.
1:20:58 He said it was never the intent of the Parental Bill of Rights
1:21:02 that he co-sponsored to deny
1:21:04 a child a Band-Aid or an ice pack.
1:21:07 If one of the board members could speak with me about this right
1:21:09 after the meeting tonight,
1:21:10 I would welcome that.
1:21:11 Thank you.
1:21:13 As Ms. Colby is approaching, our next three speakers will be
1:21:18 Michelle Beavers, Diane Haines,
1:21:21 and Corey McMillan.
1:21:22 Colby, whenever you’re ready.
1:21:25 Okay.
1:21:26 I’m going to wing this because I’m going to talk about the books,
1:21:30 the books and the issues
1:21:32 with the book.
1:21:34 Many years ago, and I can’t say the exact one, there was a
1:21:36 series of other books pulled
1:21:38 from the shelves.
1:21:39 Some of the names are familiar to many of us.
1:21:41 Huckleberry Finn, To Kill a Mockingbird, Gone with the Wind.
1:21:44 There was objectionable language in there, but there wasn’t porn.
1:21:48 There wasn’t material that talked at great length about children
1:21:51 having relations with
1:21:53 adults.
1:21:54 I’ve read a lot of those books on that list.
1:21:56 I personally will attest I would not read them out loud here
1:21:59 because people I know would
1:22:01 hear me saying these words.
1:22:03 They would visualize the things I can’t get out of my mind, the
1:22:06 worst being the one that
1:22:08 they did pulled with the cartoons in it.
1:22:10 I think that people think that we’re arguing about a moot point,
1:22:15 but if you don’t want
1:22:16 to argue a moot point, put the other books back and those
1:22:19 parents can tell their kids
1:22:20 not to take home To Kill a Mockingbird because that won all kind
1:22:24 of awards and it is a very
1:22:25 important piece of literature.
1:22:26 Thank you.
1:22:27 Thank you, ma’am.
1:22:28 Michelle Beavers?
1:22:29 My original speech went out the window.
1:22:37 The board contacted me and told me that I could opt my child out
1:22:40 of books.
1:22:41 You can’t opt your child out of seeing the books in the library,
1:22:44 they’re still there.
1:22:46 Schools are supposed to be a safe place, you’re not supposed to
1:22:48 normalize porn in schools.
1:22:49 Yes, I have a Liberty shirt on and that’s because law and
1:22:51 liberty kind of go hand in
1:22:53 hand and I’m asking you to look at the law and apply the law to
1:22:57 these books.
1:22:58 Indian River has a process where they take the books out first,
1:23:01 then they go back and
1:23:02 look at the books.
1:23:04 I’m suggesting that’s what you do.
1:23:05 Take these books out of our libraries first.
1:23:07 You know what’s in this book.
1:23:08 It talks about how to hook up with people locally with a porn
1:23:12 app, how these kids hook
1:23:14 up with other kids.
1:23:15 It tells you in the book how to do this.
1:23:17 Have you looked at this material that I’ve given you because I’ve
1:23:19 asked you over and
1:23:19 over do you want all the book report?
1:23:21 I’ve given you a snippet of that book report that obviously was
1:23:24 offensive.
1:23:24 I have an entire page or two of what’s wrong with these books.
1:23:29 Nobody in this board has asked me for that material, nobody.
1:23:33 I try to do this the right way.
1:23:35 I try to not bother your schools and not bother your principles
1:23:37 with this because your policy
1:23:39 - Thank you.
1:23:41 - Diane Haynes.
1:23:43 - Hi, good evening.
1:23:47 Yeah, could you please.
1:23:53 I had bought before this board the book Gender Queer and I was
1:23:57 assured by one of your superintendents
1:23:59 that it was a singular mistake that the book was purchased based
1:24:04 on the reviews, that it
1:24:06 was never actually looked at.
1:24:07 So it was probably stamped and passed on out into the world of
1:24:12 school age children and
1:24:13 nobody bothered to look at it to see the pornographic sexual man
1:24:18 on man sex that kids should not
1:24:21 be exposed to.
1:24:23 Moms for Liberty is trying to educate is what they’re trying to
1:24:27 do.
1:24:28 It’s not a political agenda.
1:24:29 As a parent, we are entitled to information and if you don’t
1:24:33 think what’s in these books
1:24:35 are porn, I’m going to tell you that every single meeting from
1:24:38 now on, I’m going to come
1:24:40 here and I’ve got to read the filth, the rape, the blatant
1:24:45 sexual comments in these books
1:24:48 to you all.
1:24:49 And then you tell us as a community, it’s not pornographic.
1:24:53 - Thank you Ms. Haynes.
1:24:57 The discussion of banning pornographic materials or books from
1:25:04 schools libraries is based on
1:25:05 flawed logic.
1:25:06 One person deems something pornographic or offensive to another
1:25:09 may not be to another
1:25:10 person.
1:25:11 Therefore, the definition is subjective to everyone.
1:25:13 Real question here is who is qualified to determine this?
1:25:15 I would hope no one here is arrogant enough to think that they
1:25:17 are because I definitely
1:25:18 am not.
1:25:20 By claiming material unfit for school library should be taken
1:25:22 out is the beginning of a
1:25:23 slippery slope and exits the origin of species or the rights of
1:25:27 man or Leviathan.
1:25:28 The Bible also contains genocide, rape and other things I find
1:25:31 offensive, but I don’t
1:25:33 ask the Bible to be taken out of school because you need to be
1:25:35 able to learn about it.
1:25:36 - Mr. McMillan, hold on, I’m going to stop for one second.
1:25:40 Mr. McMillan, I’m stopping your time for just a second, okay?
1:25:44 If you could keep your comments directed at me and if you all
1:25:46 could stop your comments
1:25:48 please while he’s speaking.
1:25:49 Thank you.
1:25:50 After Dr. Samuel Johnson compiled the first English dictionary,
1:25:54 he was visited by a delegation
1:25:55 of respectable ladies to congratulate him for not including any
1:25:58 indecent words.
1:25:59 His response was simply, “I congratulate you on your persistence
1:26:02 in looking them up.”
1:26:04 Finally, what this would truly cause is to shrink the diversity
1:26:07 in the libraries, not
1:26:08 diversity of sexuality or race or anything, but the diversity of
1:26:11 ideas, the only diversity
1:26:12 that truly matters.
1:26:13 - Thank you, Mr. McMillan.
1:26:14 All right, the board wishes to thank the evening speakers, your
1:26:22 willingness to speak.
1:26:23 The board is appreciated.
1:26:24 There being no further business, the meeting is adjourned.
1:26:26 Have a great night.
1:26:27 (upbeat music)