Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL

Transcript: 2026-10-27 - School Board Work Session

5:30 (upbeat music)

6:01 - Two.

6:03 - I call the October 27, 2026 work session to order.

6:06 Paul, roll call, please.

6:08 - Mr. Susan.

6:09 - Here.

6:10 - Ms. Wright.

6:11 - Here.

6:12 - Ms. Campbell.

6:12 - Here.

6:13 - Mr. Thomas.

6:14 - Here.

6:15 - Mr. Trent.

6:16 - Here.

6:17 - Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

6:19 - I pledge allegiance to the flag

6:21 of the United States of America

6:23 and to the Republic for which it stands,

6:26 one nation, under God, indivisible,

6:28 with liberty and justice for all.

6:35 - Dr. Endell, please provide an overview of today’s agenda.

6:38 - Thank you, Mr. Chair.

6:40 And we have several things to cover today,

6:41 order of business.

6:42 First is public hearing number one

6:44 on several proposed policy revisions.

6:47 Then two presentations from the security department,

6:50 the district best practices assessment,

6:53 and then the quarter one

6:54 school safety compliance inspections.

6:56 Then several topics for the board to discuss.

6:59 First is the proposed Greater Florida Consortium

7:02 of School Boards state and federal legislative platforms.

7:05 Then a follow-up discussion

7:06 on policy 0169.01 public comment policy.

7:11 Board discussion on the November 17th agenda.

7:14 Proposed parent 9130 meeting policy

7:17 and discussion on logo rights.

7:20 - First on our agenda,

7:21 we have the first public hearing on policy revisions.

7:24 We will, in accordance with Florida law, accept speakers.

7:28 Board policy review and rule development

7:30 on the following policies.

7:32 Policy 0124.

7:34 Is anybody here who wishes to address this item?

7:37 Is there anyone here who wishes to address this item?

7:44 All right.

7:45 Policy 2215, program of instruction.

7:48 Anyone here who wishes to address these items?

7:55 2280, physical education.

7:58 Is there anyone here who wishes to present these items?

8:01 Is there anyone here who wishes to address these items?

8:07 Policy 2370.01, virtual instruction.

8:10 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

8:18 Okay.

8:19 Is there anybody who wishes to address any of these items

8:21 as I roll through so I can move quickly?

8:23 No?

8:24 Okay.

8:25 I’m gonna move quick.

8:26 - You still gotta say it.

8:27 - I do, but I wanted to make sure

8:28 that I didn’t miss when I’m reading it.

8:30 - I’m looking, so if I see a page on the wall, I’ll wait.

8:33 - I just didn’t wanna look up.

8:34 - If there’s a mad rush to the podium, I’ll let you know.

8:36 - Policy 2421, career and technical education.

8:38 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

8:43 Policy 2431, interscholastic and interscholastic activities.

8:46 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

8:50 Policy 2431.01, participation by transfer student.

8:54 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

8:59 Policy 2450, adult community education.

9:01 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

9:06 Policy 2460, exceptional student education.

9:08 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

9:13 Policy 3120, employment of staff.

9:16 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

9:20 Policy 3120.08, part-time extracurricular personnel.

9:25 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

9:30 Policy 3130, is there anyone present

9:33 who wishes to address these items?

9:35 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

9:38 Policy 3211, whistleblower protection.

9:41 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

9:46 Policy 3220, evaluation of personnel.

9:48 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

9:53 Policy 5223, absences for religious instruction.

9:57 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

10:04 Oh, boy.

10:05 Policy 5330.01, anyone present who wishes

10:10 to address these items?

10:11 Anyone present who wishes to address these items?

10:15 Policy 5335, care of students with chronic health conditions.

10:18 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

10:23 Policy 5410.01, promotion, acceleration,

10:26 placement, and retention.

10:28 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

10:33 Policy 5430, class rank.

10:35 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

10:39 Policy 5514, use of personal transportation devices.

10:43 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

10:48 Policy 5780, student or parental rights.

10:51 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

10:57 Policy 8810, the American flag,

10:59 the flag of the state of Florida,

11:00 the official motto of the state of Florida.

11:02 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

11:04 Anyone present who wishes to address these items?

11:07 Policy 9215, school support organizations.

11:10 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?

11:16 All right, anyone present in here

11:18 that wishes to address any of those items

11:20 that I might have, that may have missed something?

11:22 No, we’re good, all right.

11:23 We’ll begin with two presentations

11:24 from Ms. Scott Rosenfeld, district school security.

11:28 Mr. Rosenfeld.

11:46 (paper rustling)

12:14 - Good morning, board members, Dr. McDowell.

12:16 Scott Rosenfeld, district school safety coordinator.

12:20 - Yeah, hang on, I’m sorry, hang on.

12:22 - Can you hear me now?

12:23 - Yeah. - Okay.

12:25 So I have two presentations.

12:28 First one is district best practices.

12:30 Both are mandated by state statute.

12:38 The purpose of the Florida Safe Schools

12:40 district best practices assessment

12:41 is to assist districts in meeting the requirements

12:44 for school safety and security

12:46 as outlined in state law and rule.

12:49 In conjunction with the school security risk assessments

12:52 completed for each public school,

12:54 both traditional and chartered,

12:55 this tool is intended for use by district school officials

12:58 to help identify threats, vulnerabilities,

13:01 and appropriate safety controls

13:03 for the schools they supervise.

13:07 Florida state statute, based on the assessment findings,

13:10 the district school safety specialist

13:12 shall provide recommendations to the district school,

13:15 superintendent, and the district school board,

13:17 which identify strategies and activities

13:19 that the district school board should implement

13:21 in order to address the findings

13:23 and improve school safety and security.

13:28 So this is essentially,

13:31 every school does a very in-depth school risk assessment,

13:36 and it’s due by September 1,

13:39 and we take the results from all of those risk assessments,

13:44 and we put these best practices together.

13:47 So the positive school measures,

13:48 now keep in mind this is from last school year,

13:52 communication and access control,

13:54 the implementation of the Raptor emergency management tools,

13:59 ELISA’s law compliance, that’s the critical alerts,

14:03 mobile application and wearable alert capabilities,

14:05 emergency and critical drill management,

14:07 and then eventually reunification management.

14:11 The PA intercom upgrades are almost complete,

14:13 AI phone intercoms in all front offices,

14:16 and secondary school media center access control upgrades

14:20 are almost complete.

14:23 Behavioral and community safety,

14:25 Fortify Florida and Speak Out,

14:28 which is essentially crime line reporting tools are active.

14:31 School-based threat management teams

14:33 are trained and certified,

14:35 and we have five therapy canines

14:37 that are embedded in the schools.

14:39 Additionally, we have one firearm detection canine

14:42 and two narcotic detection canines

14:44 that are also certified in therapy.

14:48 Physical security measures,

14:50 portable weapon detection at all high schools,

14:53 and now we’re currently rolling out

14:55 the middle school implementation.

14:57 Hardened vestibules across all campuses,

15:00 upgraded automatic classroom door locks

15:02 in progress as needed,

15:03 new eight-foot non-scalable perimeter fencing,

15:06 site-specific, impact-resistant window film installed,

15:11 site-specific, perforated window film installed,

15:15 and those are the ones with the graphics, logos,

15:19 and infilling certain windows, filling in the windows.

15:25 Preparedness and protocols,

15:26 critical incident and fire drills

15:27 completed to comply with Florida state statute.

15:30 School emergency operations plan,

15:33 we call that CEOP, submitted on time, all of them.

15:36 Annual school risk assessments submitted on time.

15:39 The superintendent’s mandatory security procedures,

15:43 his directive implemented,

15:45 and school unification plans are updated

15:47 to include precise topographical mapping,

15:50 and I wanna give a commendation to Agent Joe Martin,

15:54 who worked four months putting these maps together

15:57 for all the schools.

15:58 He did a fantastic job.

16:03 These are the most common requests across all schools.

16:08 Fencing and gates, perimeter fence and gate replacement.

16:12 Many of our schools just have dilapidated fencing

16:15 and overgrown vegetation that’s pushing on the fences.

16:18 Taller non-scalable fencing and gates

16:20 to secure vulnerable areas of building ingress and egress,

16:24 and that would be along the perimeter

16:26 closer to the school itself.

16:30 Video surveillance systems,

16:32 additional coverage for blind spots,

16:34 playgrounds, and parking areas.

16:36 I know parking areas and out by the ball fields

16:38 is a little more difficult

16:40 because we don’t use Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.

16:43 It would have to be hardwired in.

16:44 That’s a little bit of a challenge.

16:47 Communication, two-way radio repeaters.

16:50 When I say two-way radios,

16:51 we’re not talking about the 800 megahertz,

16:53 those $6,000, $7,000 radios that all law enforcement

16:55 and the security specialists have.

16:58 These are just the walkie-talkies.

17:00 We should probably have

17:01 some universal consistent walkie-talkies in the future,

17:05 but the two-way radio repeaters,

17:07 the schools that don’t have these repeaters,

17:09 and I believe these are like $5,000, $6,000 items.

17:14 If you don’t have those,

17:16 you have no signal in many of the other buildings,

17:19 so it’s tough to communicate,

17:21 and you’re having to communicate by text

17:23 or call the landline, so these are pretty important.

17:26 Two-way radio repeaters to boost range on campus

17:29 and improve reliability.

17:33 Access control, badge readers, electronic locks,

17:36 remote access systems, and the window covering,

17:41 the security film on vulnerable exterior-facing windows

17:44 and the perforated film for visibility control.

17:49 And these are the recommendations that we provide to you.

17:54 Reinforce physical security,

17:56 replace the perimeter fencing and gates,

17:59 install non-scalable fencing

18:01 surrounding the building exteriors, and window hardening,

18:04 and we’re still in the process of this,

18:06 the impact-resistant film and the infilling of windows

18:10 and raising smaller windows up six feet or above,

18:14 which allows some natural lighting.

18:18 Strengthen communication and technology,

18:20 the two-way radio repeaters

18:21 for enhanced radio signal coverage,

18:24 upgrades to intercom systems for full campus coverage

18:27 and integration with Raptor systems,

18:29 additional access control systems,

18:32 and security camera improvements and additions.

18:37 And then, of course, secure funding

18:38 to pursue state and federal hardening grants.

18:44 Now, at the end of this very lengthy

18:47 district best practices assessment that I complete,

18:51 as well as many other facets of the school board,

18:55 the last two questions, or the last two sections,

18:58 are these, I don’t know if you can see them,

19:00 your screens are not in front, can you see that?

19:02 You can see, okay, it comes up there?

19:04 Okay, I put the answer to last year’s,

19:08 to give you an example, it’s a very simple answer,

19:11 but this is what I have to complete the assessment,

19:15 and then send it to the Office of Safe Schools.

19:19 So, provide any recommendations by the district school board

19:23 for the Department of Education to consider,

19:25 recommending to the Governor, Florida Legislature,

19:28 and State Board of Education regarding policy changes

19:30 or funding needed to facilitate continued

19:34 school safety planning improvement and response

19:37 at the state, district, and school levels.

19:39 So, the answer that you gave last year,

19:41 or the response, was increased state funding

19:43 for school safety and security initiatives.

19:46 So, I need something to fill in the blank.

19:48 - We like that, that still stands.

19:50 - Yeah.

19:51 - Well, let me ask this, and Dr. Endell,

19:53 this is maybe a you and your team question,

19:55 but I feel like on legislative platforms

19:57 in the last couple years we’ve asked for more ability

20:01 to coordinate across the state, you know,

20:04 if we have a kid who comes in from another district,

20:06 that the systems don’t always communicate well

20:08 to each other, is that still something that gets in the way?

20:11 - No, that has been resolved.

20:13 - Okay.

20:14 - National, I mean, a statewide database,

20:15 and it’s updated.

20:16 - Okay, I know we had that on our request before,

20:18 so good to know that sometimes, you know, they do listen.

20:21 So, I’m fine with leaving this on here,

20:23 ‘cause that’s honestly, with all those things

20:25 that you listed, every single one of them will cost me.

20:27 - I was thinking the same thing, I’m going,

20:29 oh, that’s expensive, that’s expensive.

20:30 Yeah, I think honestly, increasing the funding

20:33 for school safety is the number one recommendation.

20:36 - Yeah.

20:37 - Board, you agree?

20:38 - I agree.

20:42 - Okay, and what area could be improved

20:45 to enhance the program’s effectiveness last year?

20:49 The response was improve campus access control technology

20:51 to align with new state requirements.

20:55 - I feel like we’ve done a pretty good job with that

20:56 from what you just said.

20:58 - Yeah, I would recommend the same.

21:00 - Yep.

21:00 - The same answer again this year, the same statement.

21:03 - Okay.

21:04 - Yep, sounds good.

21:06 - That was easy.

21:07 - Yeah.

21:08 - Okay.

21:09 - And then any other questions before I move on

21:12 to the second presentation?

21:13 - Yeah, I just had one, as I’ve gone around

21:16 and visiting some schools in the last couple of weeks.

21:19 I know that a lot of the things that you suggested

21:21 are actually in the sales tax plan.

21:23 Some of them are ones from the 2020 plan

21:26 that we just haven’t gotten to yet,

21:27 but some of them are in the plan that sued for 2026

21:31 if the voters pass it next week.

21:33 But, and I know cameras and things are very expensive,

21:36 but can, now that you’ve gotten here,

21:38 if we have the opportunity to reevaluate

21:43 the location of the cameras,

21:45 can we have District Security, your team,

21:50 you are a team of one, take a look at that

21:53 because even while we may not be able

21:55 to buy a lot more cameras, it would probably be good

21:57 to review the strategic placement of where they are.

22:00 Are they in the best places, and ask each principal

22:04 where are you having problems

22:05 that doesn’t have the coverage that you need?

22:07 That would be my request.

22:09 - Okay, sure, we can work with all the SROs,

22:12 the principals, the rest of our District Security team,

22:15 and of course the vendors.

22:16 We don’t just get up on ladders and move ‘em ourselves,

22:18 we have to do that. - Right.

22:19 - So that’s– - Yeah, and to be fair,

22:22 one of the things that Scott talked about

22:24 was the annual assessment. - Right.

22:28 - The school in conjunction with security

22:30 and local law enforcement conducted an assessment annually

22:33 of the entire building and all the different facets

22:36 of security, and the cameras is part of it.

22:37 - Yeah. - You look at

22:39 where the cameras are and would you want more cameras

22:41 or are they moved, so it’s part of the annual assessment.

22:43 - I know they probably all want more.

22:45 - But of course they, yeah, if you could have enough, yeah.

22:48 - Mr. Chair? - Yes, sir.

22:50 - Just a quick question, not really pertaining exactly

22:53 to the presentation, I’m just curious,

22:55 do you know of any districts around the state

22:57 or maybe even around the country

22:59 that outsource private security as far as for like

23:03 the entry and exit points for the metal detectors,

23:06 watching the perimeter during the day,

23:07 not in place of an SRO, but is there,

23:10 I know that’s a hefty cost, I’m just curious

23:12 if that’s ever done in any other districts you’re aware of.

23:17 - We actually have some of our charter schools

23:20 that do that currently here in this district.

23:22 I believe one is unarmed and just handles

23:25 the weapons detection as they come in.

23:29 And a couple of the others have private security,

23:32 they still train, right, do they still train with us

23:35 for firearms and to make sure they have

23:36 the active assailant training and so forth,

23:38 but they’re private security.

23:40 But I could certainly look into other districts.

23:43 - I was just curious because obviously my biggest concern

23:47 is for the, especially for the, when the kids are coming

23:50 into school, doing the metal detectors,

23:53 having teachers monitoring it or even administrators,

23:57 it’s just in a perfect world, it’d be nice

23:59 to have law enforcement or at least a version

24:01 of some kind of security, trained security personnel

24:04 doing it, so I’m just curious if that was done anywhere.

24:09 - I’ll look further into it.

24:10 We actually have a conference that we’re going to,

24:12 a school safety conference with Raptor.

24:15 So our colleagues will be there and we’ll have

24:17 that discussion next week.

24:19 - Awesome. - Yeah.

24:20 - Thank you.

24:21 Anybody else?

24:24 All right, next presentation.

24:25 - Next presentation.

24:27 - Do I move right in, does it have to be announced?

24:29 I just go? - Go.

24:30 - Okay. - You can announce it.

24:46 It’s a little bit loud, no scandal.

24:49 - Sorry. (laughing)

24:53 - Okay, this is our first quarter

24:54 school safety compliance inspections.

24:56 This one’s only a couple of slides.

24:59 Per Florida state statute, the school safety special

25:02 shall present quarterly reports to the school board

25:04 in a public meeting identifying the number

25:06 and percentage of schools, including charter schools

25:09 inspected or re-inspected during that quarter

25:11 and the number and percentage of inspected schools

25:14 that had no school safety requirement deficiencies.

25:18 This is from the Office of Safe Schools.

25:20 I met her one day, she came one day for Brevard so far,

25:25 so there’s only three.

25:26 So the office shall conduct unannounced inspections

25:29 of all public schools, including charter schools,

25:31 while school is in session, triennially,

25:33 and investigate reports of noncompliance

25:35 with school safety requirements.

25:37 So three schools visited, no charters.

25:40 I know I was asked last meeting to specifically

25:44 discuss charters, so no charters in this visit.

25:47 A number of schools with no safety requirement deficiencies

25:51 were two, that’s 66%, and one had a deficiency

25:57 and that was actually an unlocked door.

25:59 It was a door that was not closing properly.

26:03 And again, I will give commendation here

26:05 to Director Jim Ross, I believe.

26:08 Is that the director over the plan?

26:11 - Yes. - Okay, so I’ve had

26:14 discussions with him, I said I don’t call,

26:16 I don’t use my phone of friends very often,

26:19 but if I call you in the middle of a state inspection,

26:22 it’s pretty serious, please have your guys come out.

26:25 Within two hours, they came and shaved down the door

26:28 and made it close properly.

26:29 However, the state is not as flexible as the district.

26:33 They noted it as noncompliant.

26:36 They had this fixed before she pulled out of the lot.

26:39 So it’s taken care of, however, they do need

26:41 to come back out within six months and do a re-inspection

26:44 and it’ll check other doors as well.

26:46 But that was a fantastic job and how quick to come out

26:50 within two hours and have that taken care of.

26:52 Yeah, but I don’t do that often,

26:55 ‘cause that’ll be, I don’t wanna cry wolf.

26:59 Okay, these were my inspections between,

27:03 I didn’t start inspecting ‘til about mid-August.

27:05 They have 10 days to conduct an active assailant drill,

27:08 so I wouldn’t come out before that.

27:10 So from mid-August ‘til the end of September,

27:13 I did 31 schools, so conduct annual unannounced inspections

27:17 using the form adopted by the Office of Safe Schools,

27:20 pursuant to Florida statute of all public schools,

27:22 including charters, while school is in session

27:25 and investigate reports of noncompliance

27:27 with school safety requirements.

27:30 31, that was including seven charter schools.

27:35 No deficiencies, that’s 100%, zero deficiencies, zero%.

27:42 So they were fantastic, they’ve done a great job.

27:45 We’re still working through some issues,

27:47 but as far as the compliance inspection, 100% compliance.

27:53 - Love that. - Yeah.

27:55 - Quick question, these are surprise visits, right?

27:58 - Yeah, yes ma’am, unannounced.

28:00 - And you are required to do one for each school per year?

28:05 - Yes ma’am. - Okay, thank you.

28:07 Good job. - Anybody else?

28:09 - Mr. Chair, I’d just like to add the fact

28:11 that the state has only come one day

28:13 and inspected three of our schools is actually an indication

28:17 that they’re confident that we are doing things right.

28:20 If they had any question on whether we were doing things

28:24 right, they would be here more than once, so.

28:28 - Yep. - Good work, thank you.

28:30 - Thank you for your time. - All right.

28:32 All right, our second topic is follow-up discussion

28:35 on Policy 0169.01, does anybody wish to discuss

28:38 any of the topics that are there?

28:40 - Are we ever doing a consortium?

28:42 - Yeah, we’re in the consortium.

28:43 - Oh yeah, okay, sure.

28:45 We’ll now move on to our first discussion topic,

28:47 the proposed GFS or CSB 2027

28:51 state and federal legislative programs.

28:53 Anybody wish to kind of weigh in?

28:59 - I didn’t see anything just glaring.

29:02 The federal one is pretty much just asking for more funding.

29:06 And the state one, I did look down under,

29:13 where is it, on the state one,

29:16 which is the last attachment board under academics,

29:20 which is on page four.

29:23 Under number one, the one, two, three, fourth bullet,

29:26 it says eliminate the standalone statewide ELA writing test.

29:31 Is that something that we…

29:33 would be in favor of. I’m seeing a – I don’t know. I just – I

29:38 mean, I know where everybody’s

29:38 like less testing, less testing, but I just don’t know if there’s

29:41 something positive that

29:42 we get out of that if we want to stand with our fellow board

29:45 members across the state

29:47 and say get rid of the – I mean, it doesn’t factor into

29:50 accountability. Would you mind

29:54 if Ms. Harris can –

29:55 » Yeah, Ms. Harris can come up, but –

29:56 » Okay, if she’s willing to do that. I don’t know if you have

29:58 input, Mr. – Dr. Endell.

29:59 » And then, Dr. Endell, I’d like to hear your weigh in on some

30:01 of this stuff.

30:02 » Yeah, I’ll let Tara talk about the test itself, but then I’ll

30:07 –

30:07 » Okay.

30:08 » Because I don’t see a need to remove that from the platform.

30:12 » Okay.

30:13 » But –

30:14 » Okay.

30:15 » It’s not like it used to be where it’s part of the

30:18 accountability system, and we

30:19 do have writing opportunities already built into our

30:22 instructional pacing guide. So that’s

30:24 why I say it’s not – you know, there are some things that if

30:27 they asked our opinion

30:29 we’d be like yes, we need more flexibility there. For that

30:34 element alone, it is a day

30:37 of testing where they take the writing assessment, but it is a

30:42 one-time shot of writing. It does

30:45 give us some information, but we get very little – it’s not

30:49 calculated into the specific

30:51 ELA score.

30:52 » Right. So we’re not really getting a great benefit from it.

30:54 » I will tell you from a teacher standpoint, because we have

30:57 writing opportunities built

30:59 in, teachers can see – because we do want students to be able

31:01 to communicate through

31:03 writing, and the highest way of comprehension is if you can

31:06 write about it. So we have that

31:07 embedded. So as a teacher, I’m getting that data – I’m not

31:10 waiting until an assessment

31:11 in May to get that data from my students.

31:14 » Yeah. So then eliminating the ELA test –

31:16 » Correct. So again, the question is if we want to remove any

31:20 of these.

31:20 » Yeah.

31:21 » And we’re not in favor of removing it.

31:23 » Right. Okay.

31:24 » Of the bullet, which means we are in favor of eliminating the

31:27 test.

31:27 » Eliminating the test.

31:28 » Right. Right. Right. Okay. I just want to make sure – I

31:30 appreciate that input.

31:31 » Yep.

31:32 » Thank you.

31:33 » Dr. Endell, did you – you and I were looking at them before.

31:34 Did you have anything

31:35 that you wanted to weigh in on?

31:36 » No. There was nothing I needed asked or would want us to

31:39 change with either platform.

31:41 » Okay.

31:42 » There’s a couple things that I think are – they’re not going

31:45 to come to fruition anyway.

31:46 » Right.

31:47 » So –

31:48 » I feel the same way.

31:49 » – they’re fine being on there, but – because the more you

31:50 ask – the more times you ask,

31:51 over time, eventually you might get that.

31:53 » Yeah.

31:54 » You know, some of these are not going to happen this year.

31:56 » They’re pies in the skies. I get it.

31:57 » Well, it’ll take a little while to build some momentum.

32:00 » Yep.

32:01 » Yeah.

32:02 » Does everybody else feel the same way?

32:03 » Yeah.

32:04 » Yes, sir.

32:05 » Okay.

32:06 » Yeah.

32:07 » So can we ask someone to communicate with the consortium that

32:09 –

32:09 » It may.

32:10 » Yep. We’ll do that.

32:11 » Yeah.

32:12 » I was down at their meeting, like, a month ago that you made

32:16 me go to.

32:17 » Yeah. Whatever.

32:18 » Yeah.

32:19 » And the second topic is a follow-up discussion on Policy 0169.01,

32:23 public comment. Does anybody

32:24 wish to address it? I think it’s moving forward.

32:26 » Mr. Chair?

32:27 » Yes, sir.

32:28 » So I just want to thank the board for – I know you minimized

32:30 the discussion when I was

32:32 out of town last meeting, so I could have some input. So I just

32:37 would like to present

32:39 my thoughts on it and see what you guys think.

32:42 » Absolutely.

32:43 » So my reason for kind of bringing this up to begin with is

32:46 just to make sure that

32:47 we have a fair policy, it’s transparent, and make sure it’s

32:52 efficient. And so I’d like

32:54 to propose the following. Combine the agenda and non-agenda

32:58 public comment into one public

32:59 comment period. Place the public comment period near the

33:02 beginning of the meeting, immediately

33:04 before the consent agenda. Livestream and archive the entire

33:07 public comment period as

33:09 part of the meeting. Establish a one-hour period for public

33:12 comment with the following

33:13 speaking times. Fifteen speakers or fewer, three minutes per

33:18 speaker. Sixteen or more

33:19 speakers, two minutes per speaker. And allow the board the

33:24 discretion to extend the overall

33:25 public comment period when the number of speakers would

33:27 otherwise prevent everyone who has signed

33:29 up from having an opportunity to speak. And that’s kind of it.

33:33 Just kind of –

33:33 » Say that last one again, Joe.

33:36 » Allowing the board the discretion to extend the overall

33:39 public comment period when the

33:40 number of speakers who otherwise prevent everyone has, you know,

33:43 hasn’t had a chance to sign

33:45 up and speak.

33:46 » Yeah. It usually goes without saying.

33:48 » That’s what I put in the email, exactly what I put in the

33:50 email before I left that

33:52 day.

33:53 » And I appreciate your – I mean, when this conversation came

33:55 up, I thought, we need to

33:56 have you here because you’ve led this initiative and I would

33:58 have felt horrible if we would

33:59 have moved forward with passing a policy you didn’t get a chance

34:01 to weigh in on, even though

34:01 you gave us that, but I didn’t know if the conversation was

34:04 going to steer your direction

34:05 on wanting something different other than that.

34:07 » Thank you.

34:08 » I – board, I would be in favor of keeping the policy exactly

34:11 like it is, just turn the

34:12 cameras on at the end. I think that’s the easiest solution,

34:15 quite frankly. We haven’t

34:16 seen an instance really in some time where we’ve had a number of

34:19 public speakers that

34:20 have come before us and really I think until the last meeting

34:24 prior to – Ms. Fulton, you

34:25 were the one that brought forward something that made us kind of

34:28 go, uh-oh, on an agenda

34:29 item. I like hearing the public’s comments on things that we’re

34:32 going to be voting on

34:33 right away. I think that’s important. Obviously, that’s required

34:37 by law, too. But I think the

34:38 non-agenda public comments going to the end is beneficial just

34:42 for the nature of what

34:43 they have been, right? A lot of times it’s not necessarily about

34:46 anything that we’re

34:47 going to vote on or govern on right at that moment. It’s about

34:51 something else that will

34:52 require – sometimes it’s controversial, sometimes it’s, you

34:55 know, they want to attack you for

34:57 three minutes publicly, whatever it is. That’s fine. But I think

35:00 that’s the easiest solution

35:03 rather than trying to set limits. And then I guess if we see an

35:05 issue in the future where

35:06 we have a whole bunch of people that are coming forward, the

35:08 Board can always impose that

35:09 or make a recommendation to limit the amount of time allotted to

35:13 speakers if we had a hundred

35:14 people here to speak on a certain subject matter, you know? And

35:18 for the nature of keeping

35:19 it the simplest, I think that that’s what I would propose.

35:22 » Mr. Chair?

35:23 » Yes, sir.

35:24 » So I don’t disagree and, I mean, I would not object to that.

35:28 My only reason why – my

35:29 only thought about combining the two was so there’s no dispute

35:33 about – somebody doesn’t

35:34 want to have to wait until the end of the meeting so they try to

35:37 slide it in during

35:38 the public comment and then we go through the whole deciding

35:40 whether it’s a public comment

35:42 or an agenda comment or not. And so just thought it might

35:45 simplify things to put it all together

35:47 in one and that way we don’t have –

35:48 » That’s true. I mean, so would your proposal be just a three-minute

35:51 period whether it’s

35:52 agenda or non-agenda?

35:53 » Correct.

35:54 » My proposal actually gives them six minutes.

35:55 » I agree.

35:56 » And obviously I’ve asked and my limited number of people I’ve

36:00 asked in the community

36:01 about that because I thought that actually would be an issue and

36:04 nobody has raised it.

36:05 They said that usually it’s – somebody has something to say,

36:07 they can do it in the three

36:08 minutes. So that’s not – at least not for the people I’ve

36:12 talked to an issue by combining

36:14 it.

36:15 » Yeah, I mean, you bring a good point up there.

36:17 » And we’ve only had – this is only – this morning was only

36:19 our second meeting that we

36:20 turned the cameras back on so it’s kind of hard to tell if the

36:22 impact, you know, of SPART.

36:24 But we haven’t had to argue with people. But whether it’s agenda

36:29 or non-agenda, I think

36:30 that did – I think that will go a long way to solving the

36:33 problem. But I have to point

36:34 out, of course, the next board meeting will be the December one

36:37 when you have all those

36:38 5,000 policies that we just went through. It’s going to take a

36:41 long time. But generally

36:43 over the last year or two, the time between the – once we get

36:47 down to business and we’re

36:48 voting on consent and the action and the time the non – it’s

36:52 like five minutes, maybe ten

36:53 minutes, depending on what’s on the agenda, but generally – but

36:56 we do sometimes have

36:57 people waiting, waiting for papers to be signed, waiting for –

37:02 to be there. We’ve had foreign

37:03 associates here to answer questions and they have to sit through

37:06 all the things until we

37:06 can vote on their item and then they go. So I think – I still

37:10 think it’s wise to stay

37:11 with agenda, non-agenda, and it does keep you – give people

37:15 another shot. But just

37:16 I – you know, I’m not – won’t be the one voting on it, but I

37:19 think I recommend going

37:20 with exactly what we talked about last meeting, which we’ve put

37:23 into practice already and

37:25 with what Ms. Wright said is just turn the cameras back on. And

37:29 then we clarify that

37:30 we do have the authority in the policy as it is to make whatever

37:33 adjustments that we

37:34 should deem necessary in extreme circumstances. I agree with the

37:39 splitting it and keeping

37:42 it that way. And I’ll tell you, my version is that we have a lot

37:45 of people – and they

37:47 were in the crowd today – that come for our business meeting

37:50 and they’re here as individuals

37:51 that have their agenda items up and everything else. And I would

37:56 like to just keep that specific

37:58 to it and then have the non-agenda afterwards. It gives them the

38:01 opportunity to speak twice.

38:03 That’s my take on it. There’s a couple other reasons to keep

38:05 them separate. But the other

38:06 thing is is that I agree with, you know, turning them on at the

38:11 end, establishing a one-hour

38:13 framework, I like that. Because although we haven’t had the

38:16 issue, Katie and I have gone

38:19 through some – I mean, there was a 14-hour meeting one time.

38:22 And so I do believe – and

38:24 thank you for bringing that forward. It does give everybody the

38:27 opportunity. And we can

38:28 always – like, if there’s something like that, we’re not going

38:30 to hold them all. They’re

38:31 not going to hold, like, 100 speakers to, you know, 10 seconds

38:34 or whatever, but we can

38:35 extend it. But it gives us the opportunity to kind of keep it

38:38 condensed. And then I think

38:41 that’s – » Can I ask a point of clarification? » Yeah, yeah,

38:43 yeah. » Are you suggesting

38:44 that we do the timeframe, institute the timeframe for both

38:47 public – I mean, agenda items and

38:49 non-agenda items so that there’s a timeframe for both of them?

38:52 » Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

38:53 » Okay. » Yeah, that’s it. » So, like, just the overall –

38:55 sorry. Just the overall

38:57 hour for – hour – » One hour for agenda and an hour for non-agenda.

39:01 Is that what you’re

39:02 suggesting? » And the board can adjust as needed to fit into

39:05 the hour? » Yes, ma’am.

39:06 » I’m not opposed to doing that. I don’t see – » This gives

39:10 us the opportunity. Yep.

39:12 Works for me. I’m good there. » Mr. Chair, could I ask a point

39:14 of clarification? If you’re

39:15 going to limit the amount of time, do we need to cut off your

39:19 ability to sign up to speak

39:21 at a certain point so that we can determine whether we have more

39:25 speakers – » Sometimes

39:27 people get up there and they talk for a minute and a half, you

39:29 know? » Yeah, it’s a Mr.

39:30 Gibbs question. It’s, like, if we’re going to say it, we’re

39:32 going to limit the amount

39:33 of time. » Mr. Gibbs, how fast can you do math? » I don’t

39:37 usually get it till late,

39:39 so sometimes it’s, like, right up to the speaking, so we might

39:43 need to take a recess. But, I

39:45 mean, it’s usually pretty easy. For the most part, most of our

39:48 meetings are ten or less,

39:49 so it’s always going to be three minutes. » So in the event

39:51 that we have 20 or more

39:52 people or whatever it is, you can just say, hey, guys, we’ve got

39:54 a higher number, I just

39:55 need to take a recess to figure it all out. » Yeah, just give

39:57 me two minutes or something,

39:58 yeah. » And that wouldn’t have happened for the last two years.

40:01 » Do we need to have

40:01 a set time in policy that says that, you know, so if somebody

40:06 shows up beyond that, whatever

40:08 that time is, that they’re not able to participate because they’re

40:12 at some point? » Yeah, right

40:14 now it is when public comment starts. So, yeah, when the first

40:17 public comment starts

40:19 for agenda is it gets cut off. » That’s been helpful because it

40:24 gives people, if they don’t

40:26 get here – because it used to be when the meeting starts, right?

40:28 So it gives them another

40:29 30 minutes, usually, at least. That’s – I think that’s been

40:31 helpful, and I would hang

40:32 on to that for the people who – we talked about bus drivers

40:35 before, they can’t get here

40:36 on time, traffic, whatever. » All right. Okay. All right. I

40:40 feel pretty comfortable.

40:42 If you want me to review it, keep the policy separated,

40:46 institute a time frame on the agenda

40:49 and non-agenda, and turn the lights and camera on for the non-agenda

40:52 at the end. » Just

40:53 leave the camera on, right? » Leave the camera on, yeah. »

40:56 Yeah. » Yeah. » Yep. All right.

40:57 So then when we get criticized in the public about not being

41:00 transparent, we can actually

41:01 – we’ve given the opportunity to speak more so than when I got

41:04 on the board, where they

41:05 were only given three minutes, public comment was three minutes,

41:07 it was agenda, non-agenda,

41:08 but at this point we now will have given more time to speak and

41:11 address. » And just to clarify,

41:13 we’re talking about live streaming and recording it, correct? »

41:15 Correct. » So the whole thing

41:16 – yeah, yeah, no difference? » Yes. » All right. We good? »

41:20 Yes, that sounds great.

41:23 » Okay. Our next topic is the board’s discussion of the

41:26 November 17th, 2026 agenda. Anybody

41:29 have anything to talk about that? » Mr. Chair, what it is is we

41:33 have a list of committees

41:34 and insurance on those committees. » Yep. » And also the

41:39 calendar meetings for the

41:40 coming year, and we didn’t know if the board wanted to review

41:43 that now, because theoretically

41:44 this would be the only time we’d review for the 17th. » To give

41:48 the – » We didn’t do

41:49 that. This is something we did last year. » Right. I think it

41:55 would be helpful at least

41:57 for those of us who have done the roles to kind of report back,

41:59 because sometimes we

42:00 have taken the time to trim the list down, because maybe it’s

42:04 actually defunct. And then

42:07 because we have that, we had talked about doing a meeting on

42:10 November 10th with the

42:11 – whoever gets elected. It’s kind of an onboarding thing. I

42:13 think it would probably be good to

42:15 bring it back up at that point. But just by way of input, I

42:18 would say there was – I haven’t

42:23 gotten any feedback. So Brevard Cultural Alliance had a change

42:26 of leadership back in the late

42:28 spring, early summer, and I have not even gotten any calendar

42:31 invites after that. And

42:32 I even emailed them and said, hey, do you still want a school

42:34 board liaison? I wonder

42:35 if in their charter that they have to have one, but if they –

42:38 we need to get some communication.

42:40 So if someone from your office, Lina, whoever, can reach out and

42:45 just say, hey, do you – one,

42:47 are you required to have a school board representative? If you’re

42:50 not – if you are, you need to start

42:51 sending invitations, because I just don’t want to – I feel like

42:55 it’s not – why appoint

42:56 people if you’re not even going to have them there? And the

42:59 other one that I would say,

43:02 the Palm Bay Youth Advisory Board, we just leave that up in case

43:04 they ever revive it,

43:04 but I think we could probably – that’s easy, because it’s

43:07 always our district, so leave

43:09 that on there. But the Brevard Continuum of Care, I never was

43:12 reached out to or had a

43:14 point of contact. I’m not – I think that was you that put that

43:16 on there, but I don’t

43:17 know if we want to keep that on there if there’s not been any

43:19 kind of communication. So –

43:21 » I don’t know why – we’d have to find out why they’re not

43:23 communicating, because they

43:24 usually – they don’t mean often, but I think they mean every

43:27 quarter or so.

43:27 » Okay. So maybe it’s just better, like, knowing who the person

43:31 is, but I didn’t do

43:32 – I had actually forgotten that I was on that, and it –

43:34 because I never heard anything

43:35 else about it. So that would be my input on those particular –

43:38 » I’ll make sure that Ms. Foranoe has the contact information.

43:42 » Okay. » And then she can find out if they want

43:45 to do it or not. » Yeah. So we can reach out to those two

43:48 before November 10th. » Yeah. There’s – I agree. There’s a

43:53 couple

43:53 that – there’s, like, the Palm Bay Youth Advisory Board. I was

43:57 going to create those,

43:59 but I don’t even know if they need to be on the list if you’re

44:01 the person that’s on it.

44:01 You know what I mean? » Right. Well, I mean, they haven’t met

44:04 since 2020. » Right. Cultural Alliance, I used to sit

44:06 on it, but – » Right, right. And I – and we’ve had someone

44:09 on there, and I always went when I could, but then something

44:11 happened in June and they

44:12 even – they weren’t even sitting out until their invite, so I

44:14 just don’t know.

44:15 » Yeah. No, I figured as much. Yeah. So I think – I feel

44:17 pretty good about the list

44:18 minus, like, if we check in on that one, but, yeah, bringing it

44:21 back and saying, “Hey, this

44:22 is what we did. This is how we met,” and stuff like that. All

44:25 right?

44:25 » Well, yeah, and I think we – it’s – I mean, bringing it

44:27 back on the 17th, correct?

44:28 Because obviously – » Correct.

44:29 » – we’re going to have – » But it’s a great refresher.

44:32 Thank you so

44:33 much, Dr. Endell, for putting that in there. All right. Our

44:37 final topic – or not final

44:39 topic. We have the next topic is the proposed parent 913 meeting.

44:43 » So Mr. Gibbs – » Yeah, 9130 meeting. I think everybody’s

44:47 gotten those emails from the parent requesting this with the

44:51 board. My position has been

44:52 he has failed to provide what exactly he’s asking for as a part

44:57 of that, and in discussing

44:59 it with Dr. Endell, it is our belief that he is going to ask for

45:04 discipline of staff.

45:05 That is not a board function. That has to go through Dr. Endell,

45:08 so that would be the

45:10 appropriate placement. I’ve had a couple of board members say, “Let’s

45:13 just schedule it

45:14 and do it to get this over with.” So if the board wants me to

45:19 schedule that hearing and

45:21 just get him in here, and if he asks for discipline, say, “Sorry,

45:25 you’ve chosen the wrong forum

45:27 for disciplinary requests. You want policy changes?” The board

45:30 can review those and grant

45:31 those requests, but it cannot recommend discipline of staff.

45:36 » So board members? » So if we had the meeting – and I’ve

45:40 been

45:40 going back and forth with this particular person a few times –

45:43 but if we had the meeting,

45:45 basically it would be allowing him to present all of his

45:47 complaints, staff can present all

45:49 the complaints, but the board could literally do nothing.

45:52 » Yeah, depending on what the ultimate ask is, the board may

45:55 not have any power to do

45:56 anything. If he wants discipline, that has to come through the

45:58 superintendent, and there’s

46:00 contractual issues on the side that also have to be met, so

46:04 discipline –

46:05 » He’s failing to clarify why he’s – » Right, and that’s

46:08 because he will not say

46:09 what exactly it is he wants at this stage. He’s only saying, “I’ve

46:13 told you the four

46:13 things,” and two of them aren’t really things, so –

46:17 » Right. He’s asked for a review multiple times, which it’s

46:21 been reviewed by –

46:22 » It’s been reviewed. We don’t have – we don’t have both sides

46:25 yet. There is no Dr.

46:27 Rendell decision on what’s taken place at the school, so you

46:30 only have his version,

46:32 so the board, in my opinion, is not ripe for board review. It’s

46:36 still missing that piece.

46:37 » Right. » And to clarify, we’ve offered to have him

46:40 meet with me and Paul, and he said, “No, I want to meet with the

46:44 board.”

46:44 So going back to the policy, the third level is if a

46:49 satisfactory solution is not achieved

46:52 by discussion with staff members, director, supervisor, a

46:55 written request for a conference

46:56 shall be submitted to the superintendent or designee. This

46:59 request should include the

47:00 specific nature of the complaint, da-da-da-da-da, and then if it’s

47:05 – then it goes to the board.

47:07 I know you – I think you’ve had some back and forth, but that

47:10 – technically, that third

47:11 level has not been complete. » Correct. » Okay. So as a board,

47:15 it would

47:16 be – and this particular person has referred to this policy. If

47:20 level three has not been

47:21 complete, then we can’t get to level four. There’s no hopping

47:24 over level three to get

47:25 to level four. And I totally agree with you, Paul. Our job is

47:30 policy, budget, supervision

47:33 of the superintendent, those kinds of things. I – my only thing

47:37 would be if there’s something

47:38 – because I have looked through policy 9130 since we’ve had all

47:42 these conversations, and

47:43 if it’s – if there’s any way to make it more explicit that –

47:47 of the specific roles of

47:48 the board, I don’t know what we can do because I wouldn’t –

47:51 this is the first time it’s

47:52 happened that this scenario has happened, but I think it needs

47:55 to be clear. The board’s

47:57 not just here for people to have a rant session about things

48:00 that we have no power to control.

48:01 » Right. » If I may real quick, just from a personal

48:06 experience, when you allow somebody to come in who hasn’t said

48:09 what they’re going to say,

48:10 you have a board meeting, then they start throwing staff under

48:13 the bus or they start

48:14 doing stuff. And we don’t have the opportunity to research that

48:18 and be prepared for the meeting.

48:19 I think it puts us at a deficit. So if the gentleman – I

48:22 applaud anybody coming forward

48:23 with an issue, absolutely, but if the gentleman or the gentlewoman

48:27 is coming forward and not

48:29 presenting what it is that they’re going to say, then I don’t

48:31 want to have a meeting just

48:32 because I’m afraid of what might be said. And that’s always been

48:36 a thing with me, you

48:37 know what I mean, in that meeting, that exposes our people to

48:39 things that they can’t take

48:40 back. So that’s just my thought from a board member’s

48:43 perspective. I don’t know what you

48:44 guys feel about this. » Yeah, I mean, I’ve been the one that

48:48 said,

48:48 hey, let’s just have this meeting because I’m not really clear

48:50 and I know we’re not

48:50 getting clear direction from the e-mails that he’s sending on

48:53 which route we’re going. Is

48:54 there anything that would be opposed to just having the meeting

48:57 with the board and the

48:57 superintendent? I mean, I agree with not skipping level 3, but

49:01 at the same time, I also want

49:02 to be respective of listening to someone’s concerns or

49:05 complaints that they have and

49:05 if we can address it, let’s address it and try to resolve it.

49:10 » You could hold it more like a disciplinary hearing like we do

49:13 where he can present his

49:15 complaints and staff can come forward and answer those

49:18 complaints with their version

49:20 and the board say here, but the board cannot grant discipline.

49:24 So again, if he goes into

49:26 I want this person or that person disciplined, that’s outside

49:29 the board’s control. That has

49:31 to come from Dr. Endell. » So it would look more like a hearing

49:34 and

49:34 then we would basically at that point, the meeting would be –

49:37 he’s not going to have

49:38 a resolution upon the meeting of the board and the

49:40 superintendent.

49:41 » Unless he’s just asking for a policy and the board’s like,

49:43 hey, I agree, we need to

49:45 fix this policy or whatever. » There’s so many ways to deal

49:49 with that

49:49 before a hearing. And to be completely honest, in communication

49:55 with this person, I have

49:57 been told even personally, oh, you’re only taking one side. I’m

50:00 like, well, I’ve had

50:01 so many opportunities to hear the other side and exactly and

50:06 that, you know, if you’re

50:08 just waiting for – if we do it as a joint meeting with the

50:10 superintendent, then it’s

50:12 out in public and as Mr. Susan said, then we’re potentially

50:15 dragging people, staff members

50:17 who don’t have the opportunity to defend themselves into just a

50:20 mess. And I think it’s unprecedented

50:22 and I would encourage us to – there is a way, like I said, to

50:25 tighten the policy. But

50:27 if policy stands as it is and maybe it was just misunderstood, I

50:32 think it was, then I

50:33 guess we could leave it there. But if there’s a way to tweak it

50:36 to make it even more clear

50:38 of what’s under the authority of the board, that would probably

50:41 be helpful.

50:41 » I just think it opens us up if we don’t know what we’re

50:43 meeting about. And I’ve never

50:45 had a meeting with somebody that I don’t know what they’re

50:46 talking about.

50:47 » Yeah. I mean, I don’t disagree. I mean, we sort of know based

50:49 on what the e-mails

50:50 are. But so then I guess is it the board’s will to say, hey, we’re

50:53 reviewing this policy

50:54 and we understand level three has not been met. So at this point,

50:57 requesting the fourth

50:58 level review would be inappropriate. » I can send that e-mail

51:01 and, again, ask

51:02 for dates of availability for him to meet with Dr. Rendell and

51:05 myself.

51:06 » I don’t mind the guy bringing forward an issue. I just – and

51:09 I’ve never had a meeting

51:10 where somebody can talk – » We’re prepared to have the meeting.

51:13 He’s

51:13 just saying I don’t want to meet with you, I want to meet with

51:15 the board. So I feel like

51:17 we need to have the level three meeting. And then if he’s not

51:20 satisfied, then it qualifies

51:22 for level four. » Mr. Chair? » Yes, sir.

51:25 » I concur with almost everybody’s sentiments, I believe. Just

51:29 to give my opinion on record,

51:31 I don’t think that – I think the policy is clear. We stick with

51:34 our policy, keep the

51:34 lines distinct between the superintendent and the board and let

51:37 the superintendent do

51:38 his job and then if it goes on to the next level, then we

51:42 address it then. But if he’s

51:43 not even willing to state what his objectives are, that’s – why

51:47 are we going to put everybody

51:48 together for that? So. » All right. So I will communicate for a

51:55 level three meeting and try and organize that. » Thank you.

51:58 » Thank you. » Okay. Now on to the discussion of the logo

52:03 rights. Just to bring you guys up to speed, what ended up

52:06 happening is that we have our

52:08 – we sent out letters to tell them no, please stop. We engaged

52:13 in having a policy developed.

52:15 That policy looks a lot like the procurement policy where you

52:19 have a list of vendors per

52:20 school that is published that this is Vieira High, this is who

52:25 they’ve chosen. I feel that

52:27 the principal should be the one that makes the decision and then

52:31 that’s approved by the

52:32 school superintendent and possibly the school board. But it’s

52:35 pretty much a real easy thing

52:36 to do. I will tell you that some of the vendors that we’ve been

52:39 dealing with have been playing

52:40 games where they say in their contract, well, you told us but we

52:43 still have inventory according

52:45 to our previous contract we had with you so what they stated in

52:49 their contract was once

52:50 you tell us to stop we have to get rid of all of our inventory.

52:53 Well, you and I both

52:54 know they’ll just keep printing inventory on the back end and

52:57 their contract that they

52:58 had was signed in like 2013 with an athletic director and never

53:01 brought before a board

53:02 or procurement. So anyways, long story short, the direction that

53:06 I would like to do is develop

53:07 a policy, bring it back the night – the next appropriate time

53:10 which just basically allows

53:11 us to have a website which says these are the approved vendors

53:14 and if anybody wishes

53:15 to get approved, they go through the school or they come to Dr.

53:19 Endell if they’re a large

53:20 district-wide and then it’s published inside of the website so

53:23 everybody knows that’s it.

53:25 Pretty simple. Any of you guys have any issues on it? Are you

53:27 aware of any model policies

53:28 that we could – Mr. Volt proposed one. We got it Friday. Okay.

53:35 He drafted a proposal.

53:36 I can send that to the board. Yeah. And I talked to Sean Hines

53:39 about his process for

53:41 the way they do the – you know what I mean, the way they have

53:43 the other one and he said

53:44 yeah, that’s not an issue at all and pretty transparent. If

53:47 somebody doesn’t do their

53:49 job, then they’re kicked out, you know what I mean, and they go

53:51 somewhere else but I think

53:53 it’s time for us to get our guys back, you know. That’s it. All

53:57 right. And we – just

53:58 so everybody knows and for full transparency, we have every

54:01 right as we stand right now

54:03 that we don’t have to trademark them before we take the rights.

54:06 They are ours. They are

54:07 usually customary. If they have a logo that mimics like a

54:11 college, then they have to change

54:13 that logo but that’s ours. It’s not – you know what I mean. So

54:18 that’s it. And then we

54:19 can have fun with going and getting the law classes to do the

54:21 logos and everything else

54:22 but right now we have every right. All good? All right. Anything

54:27 further to discuss? I

54:28 just have one thing that came to mind when this candidate

54:33 brought this e-bike safety

54:34 issue. This isn’t specific to Cocoa Beach, but I just saw on the

54:39 news last week I believe

54:41 it was, it was either Orange or Osceola County. Pretty sure it

54:44 was the school district. My

54:46 memory is failing as far as which one it was, if it was the

54:48 school district or the county,

54:50 but there was – they were citing all the e-bike accidents and

54:54 deaths and I don’t know

54:55 how the statistics for Brevard County, but I just thought I

54:58 would bring it up to the

55:00 board. Is it something that we want to at least have staff

55:02 investigate? Is it something

55:03 we need to have a policy on because 99 percent of the time those

55:06 e-bikes are coming to school

55:08 and leaving school? Yep. So is it something we want to, you know,

55:12 address just to see

55:13 it as an issue? If I can, if I may just speak ahead of the

55:17 normal turns. Years ago when

55:19 we had golf carts and years before that when we had different

55:23 things come up like those

55:25 midpoint breaks inside of it, there’s organizations in the

55:28 community that are with the county

55:30 and some other organizations that come together and we develop a

55:34 policy like this, right?

55:36 I think what I was trying to do is get him to come over. What I

55:39 would like to do is engage

55:41 with all of them. The e-bike situation is absolutely atrocious.

55:44 We’ve got kids riding

55:45 the e-bikes at 30 miles an hour and getting hit by cars. There’s

55:48 nobody wearing helmets.

55:50 It is one of the – I mean, I heard state legislators, everybody’s

55:54 talking about it.

55:55 I agree that we have to move towards something, but I don’t want

55:59 us to be the lead as much

56:00 because there’s resources in other groups. So if you would like,

56:03 I can call those groups,

56:05 pull them together and say can we have a meeting, maybe even

56:07 have them come to a workshop and

56:09 work through. What I would like to do is set something up in

56:12 conjunction with those organizations

56:14 at our schools prior to school starting possibly, but like to

56:17 load our staff with that responsibility

56:19 becomes a little bit much. So maybe it’s that the outside

56:22 organizations run it and then

56:24 they verify it to our school or something. I don’t know. We can

56:26 figure that out. Just

56:27 to clarify, I was not trying to suggest that we become traffic

56:30 cops. It was more like if

56:32 you have an e-bike in school, here’s the requirement to be able

56:35 to have an e-bike at school, something

56:36 along those lines. Well, I think that’s a great idea, but I also

56:39 question the enforceability

56:40 of this. If there’s not laws that back up, I don’t know how we

56:43 would be able to necessarily

56:44 impose some of them. They can’t bring that bike to school. They

56:47 can’t bring it into the

56:47 school or they would have to walk it into the school, but it

56:50 doesn’t solve the problem

56:51 because as a parent who picks up a teenager from a high school

56:54 on a pretty routine basis,

56:55 I will tell you, I see them on the roads everywhere. We have no

56:58 authority on the roads to impose

57:00 that. So I like this idea from an educational standpoint. I

57:03 think it’s really, really good.

57:04 I think the legislature needs to take up this matter, too,

57:06 because it is a problem in our

57:08 state, but we need to figure out the problem. Or at least the

57:11 county commission can develop

57:13 an ordinance. They have resources and departments that are

57:15 perfect for it, but I think we can

57:18 work with them. For full transparency, last year the kids that

57:22 were around the new publics

57:24 in Vieira, they were literally flying through the parking lot in

57:27 between cars. It was like

57:29 Frogger. I called them and they said, “Yeah, we’re afraid the

57:34 kid’s going to get killed

57:35 in front of our parking lot.” So we need to be able to say, “Hey,

57:37 look, if this behavior

57:38 is happening, we’ll pull your permit to park it at the school or

57:41 something.” You know what

57:42 I mean? I don’t know. Us being proactive in it, not that we’re

57:45 going to get traffic caused,

57:46 but proactive in trying to find resolution to make sure things

57:50 are safe for our kids.

57:51 The county, though, has an entire department dedicated to this

57:54 kind of stuff. They go out

57:55 and they do our bicycle safety with the helmets and all that

57:57 stuff. Let me reach out to them,

57:59 if you guys can, and bring it back to the next meeting. That’s

58:01 why I was trying to get

58:02 him to meet with me, because he’s got a robust thing, but we

58:05 need to have a stronger conversation.

58:07 I think it’s a League of Cities conversation, too.

58:08 Sure. I agree.

58:10 All right. Everybody good?

58:11 It looks like a car.

58:12 I was looking at that. It’s pretty fancy. It is a car.

58:13 It looks like a car.

58:14 It was a car. At first I was like, “Did he bend that to do that?”

58:18 Then I was like, “No.”

58:19 All right. Anybody else got anything? Are we all getting ready

58:24 to go to lunch? Ms. Campbell

58:26 is going to choose where we’re going to go. Everybody good? All

58:29 right. Thank you.

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