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Transcript: 2026-11-10 - School Board Work Session

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2:19 Welcome everybody to what I think is the first ever school board

2:26 pre-orientation meeting.

2:29 Welcome everybody. I want to invite everybody to be a part of

2:34 the pre-orientation meeting.

2:37 This is the first time I think I’ve ever been a part of

2:38 something that we bring in the board members ahead of.

2:42 We did it with you, John?

2:43 We did it with John. Yes, we did.

2:45 I’m sorry, I forgot.

2:46 He slept since then.

2:47 I really thought that it was this miraculous thing that we were

2:49 doing and I apologize.

2:54 That’s what happens when you get old.

2:56 All right, good morning.

2:57 The November 10th, 2026 work session is now in order.

3:00 Paul, roll call, please.

3:02 Mr. Susan.

3:03 Here.

3:04 Ms. Wright.

3:05 Here.

3:06 Mr. Thomas.

3:07 Here.

3:08 Ms. Campbell.

3:09 Here.

3:10 Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

3:13 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

3:17 and to the Republic for which it stands,

3:19 one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for

3:25 all.

3:26 Dr. Rendell.

3:29 Can you please tell the board about the items on the agenda

3:34 today?

3:36 Thank you, Mr. Chair.

3:37 We have several items to discuss today on the agenda.

3:40 The first is a discussion of the proposed board meeting dates,

3:45 times, and locations.

3:47 Also then a discussion about the board representatives on

3:49 certain committees, especially the FSPA alternate.

3:54 So the first point of discussion is the board to look at the

3:57 proposed calendar of meetings for next year.

4:01 You will be voting on this next Tuesday night.

4:04 The idea is to go ahead and hash out any changes today so that

4:08 you can vote for it on Tuesday night.

4:11 All right.

4:12 So the first topic up is board dates, times, locations.

4:15 Do you guys have those available to you?

4:20 Everybody should have one of their materials.

4:23 That’s Lena Kvarnam telling everybody that inside their

4:25 materials everybody should have one.

4:28 Anybody have any heartburn or anything like that?

4:30 Can you guys check your calendar?

4:33 Yeah, what we do is we look ahead of time to see if any of our

4:36 meetings are during times that you have anything.

4:42 I didn’t see anything before when I was there.

4:46 You have one that you can’t make?

4:48 I’m not making any of them, but I did want to make sure.

4:52 Do we check the graduation week because sometimes the May?

4:55 The May 25th, which, hang on.

5:01 I think we’re okay on that.

5:03 Yeah, we’re good.

5:04 We’re good, okay.

5:06 Y’all are good.

5:08 Everybody good with this?

5:09 We’re good?

5:10 Yes, sir.

5:11 All right, moving on.

5:12 Look at that, first order of business.

5:13 Mr. Chair, before we could leave this topic of meetings, we do

5:17 have a request to have a work session with the board next week

5:23 after the new board is seated.

5:25 They’re talking with a few of the board members.

5:27 Haven’t been able to talk to all of them.

5:29 We talked a little bit with at least one of the incoming board

5:32 members.

5:33 We’d like to have a work session on Thursday the 19th at 9 a.m.

5:41 So we want to see if everybody could put that on their schedule.

5:46 I think I’m clear.

5:48 Good for me.

5:49 I’m fine.

5:53 Are you going to do the one-on-ones on the Wednesday before?

5:55 So prior to that, we would try to do some one-on-ones to review

5:58 the material with each of the board members before the work

6:01 session.

6:02 Mr. Savage, you’re the only one we haven’t heard from on

6:05 Thursday morning is good?

6:07 Yeah, that’s fine.

6:08 I have a question about the dates.

6:10 I don’t know.

6:11 Now is the time to ask or not.

6:12 Yeah, no, absolutely.

6:13 So just to be transparent, I would like board meetings in the

6:16 evening, and that’s where I’m going to fall all the time.

6:19 But I am recognizing that I’m one person on a five-member board.

6:23 So just I will say the same thing at the board meeting, but I do

6:28 recognize I’m one person on a five-person board.

6:33 You know, one of the things I felt like that one of the issues

6:36 you might want to do is check with staff.

6:39 There’s a lot of issues that they enjoy having the 9 o’clock for

6:42 various reasons.

6:44 Dude, this is something that we’re not voting on today, right?

6:46 Well, we want to get the work session on the calendar.

6:49 Okay.

6:50 The work session, yeah, for?

6:51 Correct, Thursday, 9 a.m.

6:53 But these we can have discussions on.

6:54 Correct.

6:55 Again, the purpose of looking at these meeting dates is to see

6:57 if the meeting dates, times, locations are acceptable to the

7:01 board.

7:02 They’re going to vote on this on the 17th.

7:05 None of these locations are offsite, so they’re all here.

7:09 But the times, you know, some of them are in the morning because

7:12 the past two years the board has alternated one meeting a month

7:17 in the morning, one meeting in the month in the afternoon.

7:19 Doesn’t the county do the same thing?

7:21 That’s what we presented for next year, the same formula, same

7:24 format, same pattern, whatever you want to call it.

7:28 But now is the time for you to bring it up.

7:30 Mr. Chair?

7:31 Yeah.

7:32 So, I mean, I’ll make it work either way, but I think that for

7:35 the public it’s better in the evening, even though I know there’s

7:38 a few that might come in the morning that can’t come at night.

7:41 Most of the people can’t come in the morning.

7:44 And I know for my personal – my professional schedule, it’s –

7:47 evenings are definitely better for me.

7:50 But I’ll defer to the will of the board.

7:55 Well, I like the alternate, obviously.

7:57 I said that from the beginning just because what we kind of

7:59 recognized was that we didn’t – we weren’t meeting everyone in

8:01 the community because there are plenty of people who don’t work

8:04 nine to five.

8:05 So I understand that the, you know, if we want to do it in the

8:07 mornings or in the evenings or whatever, I’m fine with whatever.

8:11 My preference would be to keep both because it meets both needs.

8:14 And we’re only sexually required to have one board meeting a

8:17 month, but ours – our district does, too.

8:20 But it’s going to be the will of the board.

8:22 If I were choosing, if this was Megan Wright choosing, I would

8:24 choose one of each, but the board majority obviously will lead

8:26 on this one.

8:27 I’d like to keep it in the mornings.

8:30 And the reason is, is that there’s groups and people who can

8:32 make it there.

8:33 So when we have board meetings in the evening, we ask all of our

8:36 vendors and all of the people to come.

8:39 And when we have them as part of the agenda, that means that

8:41 they travel from around the state sometimes to be here.

8:44 So there’s good times when you can put it there.

8:46 It’s also a better time for our staff.

8:48 Our staff, they work late all the time and having an extra board

8:51 meeting to go into the evening, it works during the day.

8:54 Plus, we did have some families that came because it was at 9 o’clock

8:57 in the morning because they can’t do it at night because they

8:59 have huge kids.

9:01 A lot of kids that they have to watch.

9:02 Sports and stuff.

9:03 Right, sports stuff, stuff like that.

9:04 So it works out that when we have it in the mornings like that,

9:07 it offsets some of that.

9:09 So I’d like to keep it there.

9:11 What are your thoughts, Ms. Michelle?

9:13 I see both sides of that.

9:15 That’s a tough one.

9:17 I like the evenings personally just because I feel like staff

9:19 can participate a little bit better.

9:22 I know the sports, the kids’ sports, though, that is a tricky

9:24 one.

9:25 So I’m good on voting on it, but I think the evenings, in my

9:29 personal opinion, are better for the community.

9:33 There goes coaching the kids’ ball.

9:36 So procedurally, if there’s a strong consensus to do one way or

9:41 the other, staff would be good for them to know that so they can

9:45 make adjustments and you guys can vote.

9:48 I mean, you can’t vote in this meeting, but you can come to

9:50 consensus.

9:51 A kind of compromise, and we’ve done this ever since I was on

9:54 the board at the beginning, is the summer meetings, except for

9:58 the budget hearing, which we have to do at night.

10:02 But if there was evening meetings in June, they usually did

10:05 those in the morning because most of our staff is off and all

10:09 that good stuff.

10:11 But I think you guys need to hash that out a little bit and I

10:15 would suggest that you be a little more committal.

10:19 Is the budget hearing in July by state statute at 5.30?

10:25 Not 5.30. It has to be evening.

10:27 It has to be after 5 o’clock.

10:29 And September, the budget hearing, too.

10:37 So I guess, I mean, we do need to figure out.

10:41 During the summer, we typically have, ever since I’ve been on

10:44 the board, we’ve always done daytime meetings because staff

10:47 obviously has the ability to do this.

10:50 The summer meeting in June is fine with me.

10:52 It’s just I’ve heard from a lot of people and I don’t – I got

10:57 to watch my words nowadays.

11:00 I don’t think there was shadiness or anybody was doing that, but

11:03 I think a lot of times with the public when decisions are made,

11:07 and we don’t know what decision we’re going to be making on

11:10 April 13th at 9 a.m. in the morning.

11:12 But a lot of times that’s the argument I frequently hear.

11:16 It’s just about the access to the board.

11:18 And there’s probably arguments that some people don’t have

11:20 access in the evening.

11:22 But that’s my reasoning.

11:49 It’s both demographics of people that are working different

11:52 schedules.

11:53 So, I mean, it’s the will of the board.

11:55 If we want to go back to all nighttime meetings aside from the

11:57 summer meetings, I’m okay with doing that.

11:59 And we may decide in a year, okay, let’s change it back again.

12:03 So, you know.

12:05 » Yeah, I’m thinking that we should change it to nighttime

12:07 meetings and then keep it in the summer for the day.

12:10 » Okay. And that will go into effect for our next – starting

12:13 in December, right?

12:15 January.

12:16 » You guys good with the exception of June?

12:18 » Yeah, I’m fine with that.

12:22 Just on meetings, I’ll wait.

12:24 » Shit.

12:25 » No, you’re fine.

12:26 » I was going to say, the December meeting was already approved

12:28 last year.

12:29 And it’s in the evening anyway.

12:30 » Yeah.

12:31 » So it would just start January.

12:33 Sorry, Kyle.

12:34 » I know, you’re fine.

12:35 » Mr. Savage.

12:36 » You’re fine.

12:37 » Mr. Wright, I don’t know if you heard, but we just said with

12:39 the exception of June.

12:40 » June will be daytime meeting?

12:42 Okay.

12:44 » Yeah.

12:45 » Because we’re still in school on May 25th, I’m guessing.

12:47 » We are, yeah, because I think Labor Day is the 31st this year,

12:49 correct?

12:50 » Correct.

12:51 » So, yes, we still will be in school then.

12:55 » Well, typically we’re trying to finish it, especially –

12:57 » Graduation will happen on the Friday weekend before that.

13:00 So I imagine the elementary.

13:02 » There’s probably still – there’s still –

13:04 » I should know that.

13:05 But I have a senior, so I didn’t put the last day of school on

13:07 my calendar this year.

13:10 » Okay.

13:11 » So we will adjust the calendar, the proposed calendar that we

13:14 put on the agenda for next Tuesday night.

13:16 To reflect all 5.30 p.m. business meetings except for the June

13:21 business meeting.

13:23 » Thank you.

13:24 » Lina, you got that?

13:26 » Sounds good.

13:29 » I just want to – sorry, put another marker on this.

13:32 If we have worksite meetings, offsite meetings, I’m going to ask

13:36 every time that we at minimal record them.

13:39 But if not possible, live streaming, I understand there might be

13:42 some technology barriers.

13:44 But my request would be if we have any offsite meetings that

13:47 they’re recorded at minimal.

13:49 » That’s fine.

13:51 I actually – I support that.

13:52 Honestly, I think it could have probably eliminated a lot of

13:54 misconceptions and confusions that have happened in the

13:57 community.

13:58 So I think that’s a great –

13:59 » How many do we have – how many offsites do we have set up?

14:01 » I don’t think –

14:02 » We usually only do – the majority of the time we only do one.

14:05 But I put in a quarterly thing for us to come back and just

14:07 check in.

14:08 Sometimes when we’re doing a lot like we may be doing this year,

14:11 it works to have a couple of offsites just to kind of do that.

14:15 But we don’t have to notice them.

14:17 We can go to the offsite in December and make the decision if

14:19 you guys want to, depending on what’s happening, continue.

14:22 » Do we have – sorry.

14:23 Let me see the calendar again.

14:24 » Yep.

14:25 » I left my briefcase here.

14:26 » Yeah, and I’m –

14:27 » The other one was something to figure that out.

14:29 » Somehow they figured out how to record SIAC meetings and a

14:31 bunch of other stuff.

14:32 So I’m sure we can –

14:33 » Yeah, but those were in here.

14:34 » Yeah, they’re in here.

14:35 » No, there’s no problem.

14:36 » I’m sure we can figure it out.

14:38 » There’s no problem, no problem.

14:41 Okay, moving on to the board representatives.

14:45 This is where we kind of choose basically what –

14:49 » Should we quickly describe what –

14:51 » I’ll do it.

14:52 » Oh, sorry.

14:53 Slowly and loudly so Lena can keep these in the minutes.

14:55 » So what I’m going to do is based on who it was that was a

14:58 part of it, I’ll just ask him to give a real quick overview for

15:01 you, okay?

15:02 So board, county, continuum of care, Ms. Campbell.

15:06 » That’s actually one that we may be taking off because Lena

15:08 was going to find out because we weren’t able to connect with

15:10 them.

15:11 Did you get a hold of them?

15:13 » The continuum of care now?

15:15 » Yeah, I’m not sure that that’s something – I thought we

15:17 talked about removing that.

15:18 » We did because I don’t think that – have you attended any

15:20 meetings with them?

15:22 » No, but I – nobody ever reached that.

15:24 And it wasn’t something we had before the year before.

15:26 I think just a promise brought it.

15:27 » I was asked to be on the board by them when I first got

15:29 elected.

15:30 » And then did they do anything?

15:31 » You know, periodic meetings, and that’s – the organization

15:36 allocates the money from the usually federal money for homeless

15:41 issues or housing issues.

15:43 » But we can try again.

15:44 » Wait, sorry, is this not – is this the one – continuum of

15:46 care is not the same one that I stepped into for you.

15:49 » Correct.

15:50 » It is.

15:51 » Yes.

15:52 » Okay, but I think it’s circles of care.

15:54 I don’t think they call themselves –

15:55 » It’s continuum of care.

15:56 They have another – there’s another nonprofit name that goes

15:59 along with it.

16:00 But yes, it’s continuum of care.

16:01 » Yeah, okay, all right, so I apologize.

16:04 They do have meetings that are going on.

16:06 There was some real funky stuff happening with their funding

16:08 because a lot of their funding was coming from federal funds.

16:11 So the meetings, they got postponed, and then there was one like

16:14 emergency meeting that got thrown on me the same day, and I wasn’t

16:16 able to attend that one, obviously.

16:18 But they still are actively meeting.

16:20 They do meet at, sorry, circles of care in Rockledge.

16:22 That’s why I was thinking COC.

16:23 I’m like, okay, but it’s –

16:24 » So maybe we – you still have a board representative, but we

16:27 try again.

16:28 » Okay.

16:29 » Yeah.

16:30 » I mean, it’s a good way for like community leaders.

16:32 You’ll see a lot of the different community leaders that come in

16:33 there, and they talk about how they’re going to help tackle the

16:37 issue of homelessness really in our county.

16:40 And it was beneficial for me to sit there because I was able to

16:42 talk about our students in transition, and there were some

16:45 resources that we were able to connect to the district.

16:48 So it would be probably good for one of our new people to – if

16:50 they were interested in it.

16:52 » I would love to.

16:53 » Okay.

16:54 » I would love to.

16:55 » All right, so Michelle, if you want to take that one, that

16:56 would be great.

16:57 » Yeah.

16:58 » I apologize.

16:59 » First one up and you signed up.

17:00 » It’s called something different now.

17:02 It’s not called Continuum of Care.

17:03 It’s called something different.

17:04 I need to go in my email, and I’ll tell you what it’s called.

17:06 » Like I said, they have – that’s the umbrella, and then they

17:09 have another nonprofit that – the way it’s structured, it’s

17:12 confusing.

17:13 » Okay.

17:14 » Yes.

17:15 » I apologize.

17:16 So I was like, wait, I don’t –

17:17 » Brevard County Values Adjustment Board.

17:18 I did it for seven years, and then all of a sudden Megan really

17:20 wanted to get on it.

17:21 So she’s the lead.

17:23 » No, Mr. Susan, there’s a story behind that.

17:25 You know that.

17:26 » There’s a –

17:27 » There’s a story behind this story.

17:28 » But the thing is, is that we have now Ms. Wright’s the lead

17:32 on it.

17:33 It deals with all of the value adjustment boards across the –

17:35 your taxes and everything else.

17:37 » I’ve attended one meeting so far since I took that role.

17:40 » Usually twice a year unless there’s something special going

17:42 on.

17:43 » What we did in the last time was we just said Megan can be

17:45 the front of it, and then everybody can be –

17:47 like they do it in other districts where everybody’s the

17:49 secondary person, so if you guys ever want to attend.

17:52 So that’s generally what we did, but she never misses meetings

17:54 like I did.

17:55 » Sounds like fun.

17:57 » Yeah.

17:58 » Sounds like one other meeting I’ve encountered.

17:59 » Yeah. So it’s – I mean, pretty – I mean, procedural in

18:02 nature.

18:03 It’s not real exciting that the one meeting I attended, it was

18:07 very short.

18:08 » They get gotten, though.

18:09 » Now, granted, I mean, I – there’s reason to believe based on

18:11 all the things that have passed this election cycle

18:14 that that board might be a little more active than it has been

18:17 if people are making requests for valuations to be looked at

18:20 again.

18:20 I mean, I can see that that being a busier board, and it may be

18:22 something that’s different than what it’s been in the past.

18:24 So if somebody feels like they really want that one, I was just

18:28 willing to step into it because I said I have the ability.

18:31 It’s daytime meetings always.

18:32 Just so you know, it’s not nighttime meeting.

18:34 And I was willing to serve, so.

18:37 » I think given your expertise, you’re perfect for it.

18:39 » Oh, that sounds like somebody who doesn’t want to attend

18:41 another meeting, Mr. Thomas.

18:43 I mean, I don’t mind staying on it.

18:45 That’s fine.

18:46 » All right. And I’ll back you up.

18:47 All right. Brevard Cultural Alliance.

18:49 Ms. Campbell.

18:50 » So Brevard Cultural Alliance is a countywide organization.

18:54 I have been the school board representative.

18:58 It’s a nonvoting position.

18:59 I’ve done it for the last several years.

19:01 But they had a change of leadership, and somehow we stopped

19:03 getting calendar invites, and I’ve already e-mailed them.

19:06 I also asked Lena.

19:07 » I got hold of them.

19:08 » Did they respond?

19:09 » They do want one, and their leadership is back up and running.

19:12 And they didn’t take a little time to call me back, but they

19:14 didn’t talk about it.

19:15 » Okay.

19:16 So basically, again, it’s a nonvoting member.

19:19 It was one of those things of I went when I could, right?

19:22 We didn’t always have to have someone.

19:23 They always have a time for school board and county, which the

19:25 county never sends anybody, just reports on what’s going on in

19:29 the arts in the district.

19:32 And just, you know, like I said, it’s a nonvoting position, but

19:35 when I could go.

19:36 And the location, it is once a month.

19:38 I believe it’s on the third, I can’t remember which day of the

19:40 week, because I think they moved it Wednesday or Thursday of the

19:43 month in the morning.

19:45 And they move it around the county, different locations, just so

19:49 it’s not the same drive.

19:52 But it’s like the Cocoa Village Playhouse and the King Center,

19:54 and then a bunch of business representatives that are on their

19:57 board.

19:58 » I’ll take that one.

19:59 I love it.

20:00 » All right.

20:01 Michelle signed up for everything.

20:02 » I tend to.

20:03 Sorry.

20:04 » That’s okay.

20:05 That’s okay.

20:06 That’s how you get started.

20:07 I think I did all of them too.

20:08 All right.

20:09 Brevard Schools Foundation, Ms. Wright?

20:11 » Yeah, I’ve had that one for a couple of years, actually, I

20:12 think I’ve had it for three out of four years since I’ve been on

20:14 the board.

20:15 And I love the school’s foundation.

20:17 It’s – I should – selfishly, I should probably let somebody

20:19 else step into this one, because there’s a lot of really good

20:21 things that happen there and community connections.

20:23 But it’s good to see what the foundation does and the

20:25 scholarships they provide to our students and mentorship and all

20:27 that.

20:28 So it’s – that’s a monthly meeting that you’ll have.

20:31 Usually it’s Thursdays at 4.30.

20:33 It’s the first Thursday, Dr. Rendell, is that right?

20:36 No?

20:37 » So I think it’s the fourth Thursday.

20:38 » Fourth Thursday.

20:39 I feel like we have one coming up this week.

20:40 So – okay.

20:43 So it’s once a month Thursdays, you know.

20:45 » This one was moved up because of Thanksgiving.

20:47 » Okay.

20:48 I was like, this week isn’t the fourth week.

20:50 That makes sense.

20:51 » If you want to keep it, I’ll do secondary.

20:53 » Yeah, or if you – I mean, it’s probably better somebody – I

20:55 think somebody should lead on it to go to them.

20:58 I mean, it’s a good – I love the foundation and I’ll still

21:00 support the foundation and attend the events.

21:03 » Yeah, I’ll do – yeah, you do.

21:04 I’m good.

21:05 » And as a board member, you’re going to get invited to

21:06 multiple things the foundation sponsors and does.

21:09 And so you’ll be very much hands-on with the foundation.

21:12 That’s just more so, board meetings to give updates and reports

21:14 to them.

21:15 » And there’s so many things that they do between take stock

21:17 and other things that it’s almost like boards within boards.

21:20 It’s pretty cool.

21:21 » All right, so I’m going to take the lead and Kyle is going to

21:23 take backup on that one.

21:24 » Okay.

21:25 » Yeah.

21:26 And if you guys need anybody to join any of the boards, because

21:28 there’s so many of them, that you can dole them out to us if you

21:30 need them.

21:31 All right, capital outlay committee, I’ll just say like I ran

21:34 that one for I think four years and then Gene Trent took over.

21:38 I like being on that one.

21:41 If anybody’s like burning to get on there, I don’t know.

21:44 » What exactly does it entail in one of our meetings?

21:46 » Yeah, so capital outlay committee meets with all of the

21:48 cities and counties, talks about growth expansion and stuff like

21:52 that.

21:53 And then we talk about what is going to be possible.

21:57 Sometimes they make recommendations towards the taxes that we

21:59 take from the impact fees and stuff like that.

22:02 It’s just kind of a quasi-organization that makes those

22:04 recommendations.

22:06 So I’d like to sit on it, but if anybody else is burning to get

22:09 on it, then –

22:10 » Do you want to stay on it?

22:11 I don’t have any objections to that.

22:12 » I took it off.

22:13 I did it for three or four years and then I got off of it.

22:16 But I’d like to be on that if we can.

22:18 » I’m fine with that.

22:19 Who do you – I mean, a board –

22:20 » Anybody else want to back me?

22:22 » Who wants to be the alternate or the backup person?

22:24 Anybody have a –

22:25 » I’ll do it if we need somebody.

22:27 » Savage, okay.

22:28 » I mean, I’ll do enough on two, so.

22:30 » If you let me sit here long enough, I won’t sign up for

22:32 anything.

22:33 » Okay, all right, so we’re going to have to voluntarily – you’re

22:36 going to be on this board.

22:36 You’re going to be on that board, okay.

22:37 » Central Florida Public Schools Coalition.

22:40 » Can I ask who was the –

22:42 » Savage.

22:43 » – primary and who’s the –

22:44 » Susan, primary, Savage, secondary.

22:46 » And that was Capital Outlet.

22:47 » That was Capital Outlet, correct.

22:48 » Also, did we pick a backup for Brevard Cultural Land?

22:51 » Yeah, Savage.

22:53 » Did you say that?

22:55 » That’s fine.

22:56 That’s fine.

22:57 » Okay.

22:58 » That’s fine.

22:59 » You’re going to get volunteered now, let’s see.

23:01 » Who’s the primary on that one?

23:03 » Michelle.

23:05 » She was held down on the phone.

23:06 » So just so you know, the Central Florida Public School Boards

23:07 Coalition, the chair

23:08 and the vice chair are like –

23:09 » Yes.

23:10 » – are on there, but that is a thing – so the 14 Central

23:13 Florida school districts,

23:15 every school board member superintendent is invited.

23:18 You can – like we all get an invite every month.

23:20 » Yes.

23:21 » You’ll all be invited to sit in on it, but like we ask for

23:23 the chair or if they can’t,

23:25 the vice chair, to at least be there because that way we have a

23:27 voice.

23:28 » Right.

23:29 » And it’s virtual meetings, so those are done from the

23:30 computer.

23:31 » Yeah.

23:32 » Very easy, you don’t have to go.

23:33 » It’s the second Monday of the month.

23:35 » Monday, yeah.

23:36 » And they’ll have their first meeting at the conference.

23:39 There’s a breakfast at the conference.

23:41 » It’s a good connection.

23:42 » I like that one.

23:43 » I’ll go –

23:44 » But that’s the chair and vice chair and then everybody else

23:45 can come.

23:46 » That’s good.

23:47 » Okay.

23:48 » That’s good.

23:49 » All right.

23:50 » Yeah.

23:51 » Yep.

23:52 All right.

23:53 So that’d be whoever we’d choose.

23:54 » Whoever chair and vice chair.

23:55 » Choice charter school liaison.

23:56 I would – yeah, go ahead.

23:57 » So this is a role that you can make whatever you want.

23:59 When I have been at, which was probably seven out of the eight

24:03 years, I made a point to

24:05 visit some of the charter schools, and most of them are in the

24:08 south area, especially

24:09 in district five, so that made sense.

24:12 Also worked with Dr. Endell for us and Dr. Mullen, who’s

24:17 superintendent, to have meetings

24:19 with the charter school principals all coming in, for example,

24:23 this summer.

24:24 All the departments put together a presentation to have all the

24:28 charter school principals

24:29 come in and make sure that they understood, you know, and they

24:32 just had a great day of

24:33 just all day training and communication and brought security in

24:35 and brought student services

24:37 in and all the kinds of things, the way we provide for them,

24:40 answer their questions.

24:41 So that’s – and I helped facilitate, asked for that to happen.

24:45 The other thing that happens, and it’s not always this person,

24:49 but the choice schools

24:51 are just education location options and the EPOs also.

24:55 There are appeals that come in after the deadline set, and so

24:58 there is one school board member

25:00 that sits on the appeals committee, and those are scheduled, and

25:04 Melinda Mayer, she’ll reach

25:05 out because I’ve been that for the last several years, too.

25:08 So she’ll tag somebody to be on that, but frequently it is the

25:13 charter school choice

25:14 liaison.

25:15 For the appeals, is that like a process where they come before

25:18 you and they’re in front

25:19 of the committee and you’re making an appeal or is that just a…

25:22 » They send in the appeals online or written, whatever.

25:28 And then Melinda’s office puts it all together and then the

25:31 meeting, you know,

25:32 they listen to the appeal, they look at what the policy says,

25:35 and it’s approved or disapproved.

25:37 » Okay. I don’t mind doing that one.

25:40 I mean, it’s a few – I know a lot of the charters are on the

25:43 south end of the county, but I –

25:45 » I can back you up.

25:46 » Well, you want to do double?

25:48 » Yeah, that’s fine.

25:48 » You do it?

25:49 » Yeah. I mean, honestly, we should probably all have an active

25:51 role

25:52 and that really to understand and have good relationships with

25:54 our charters

25:55 because they’re right in our backyards and each one of our

25:57 districts have them, so.

25:58 » So you’re going to be the main person and Michelle is backing

26:00 you up?

26:01 » That’s fine.

26:02 » I’ll back her up and then Michelle, well, you can back me up

26:04 and then if anybody else, we’ll just go down the line.

26:06 » Oh, my gosh.

26:07 » Back each other up.

26:07 » All right.

26:08 » Okay.

26:09 » All right.

26:09 Did you get that?

26:11 » So I’ll take the primary for the charter.

26:13 » And then everybody signed up for that one, Lina.

26:16 » Yes.

26:16 » And then Savage is – Savage is in there too.

26:18 » No, no, no, please.

26:19 » Did you get them on the Brevard Community Continuum of Care?

26:22 That’s Michelle from – and then it was Savage second.

26:25 » There’s a lot of Savages coming out over there.

26:28 » I like it.

26:29 Jump all in.

26:29 Come on.

26:30 » All right.

26:30 CivMill.

26:31 » I’ve been on that one as well.

26:33 » What is that?

26:34 » So that’s our civilian military – I guess it’s a council.

26:38 I don’t know.

26:38 They have routine meetings really just trying to bridge that gap

26:41 between our military

26:43 and our civilian base and find ways and resources.

26:46 Dr. Rendell, you want to speak to that one?

26:47 » Once a month.

26:48 » Yeah.

26:48 » Once a month.

26:49 » It’s usually a dinner.

26:50 » First day evening.

26:51 » Yeah, it’s an evening commitment.

26:53 But then they also have – like they’ll have a golf tournament

26:55 that happens

26:55 and then they’ll have different opportunities.

26:57 They had this year a few different things that were kind of

26:59 abnormal that took place.

27:01 A good way to find out, you know, what we can do to help our

27:05 military that’s here

27:06 since we have such a large military base, so.

27:08 » And any of us can go.

27:09 » Yes.

27:09 » But I go to it almost every month.

27:12 » Yeah, you are at it pretty frequently.

27:13 » Okay.

27:13 » So I had to miss a couple of them for other commitments.

27:15 » And I would have them put in the [inaudible]

27:18 » Yeah, we can all be paid into it.

27:20 » Yes.

27:20 » Okay.

27:21 » And then we have somebody.

27:22 » If you want to be a member, I just need to know that.

27:24 » Are you wanting to take that savage because it’s –

27:26 » I’m not trying to – as a new guy, I’m not trying to take

27:29 anybody from somebody, but –

27:30 » No, you’re okay.

27:31 » I wouldn’t mind going.

27:32 But if we all can go, I’ll just connect.

27:34 » We all just need a point.

27:35 » Primarily responsible.

27:36 » Yeah, somebody’s primarily responsible.

27:38 Lena, do you know when that membership is up or when we need to

27:41 pay for that?

27:41 » I believe it’s around the first of the year.

27:44 » Around the first of the year, okay.

27:46 » So we probably – I mean, because it is – there is an

27:48 expense to be a part of that

27:49 and support that organization, but it comes –

27:50 I mean, it entails you’re going to get a meal every time you go

27:53 to the Super Meal meetings.

27:55 » A big good one.

27:56 » And you get to go on the base.

27:57 You get to do some really cool behind-the-scenes kind of things

28:00 occasionally there.

28:01 » John, did you want that one?

28:03 » I mean, I’m happy to take it because I’m going to go either

28:05 way, but –

28:06 » Yeah, I’m probably going to go to a bunch of them, too, so –

28:08 » We’ll all end up going – we just – we all get memberships

28:11 and we go where we can.

28:12 » Lena, if you just want to send me this stuff for the

28:14 membership.

28:15 » Okay.

28:17 » They’re going to send you an application.

28:18 They do it every year faithfully, so they’re good at that.

28:20 Each one of us gets one.

28:21 » Do you want to leave or do you want to be back?

28:23 » It’s all you, man.

28:23 » All right.

28:24 Thomas Savage.

28:25 All right, Economic Development Council, so that’s, you know,

28:30 Linda Weatherman and the EDC.

28:34 John, I think your HBCA is a part of it?

28:38 » We’re partners, we’re not a member.

28:40 » Okay.

28:40 » Okay, on that one, Mr. Susan.

28:42 » Yeah?

28:43 » Superintendent.

28:43 » The superintendent is the ex-fisio.

28:46 » Right. But then there’s – no, the superintendent is the main

28:49 primary

28:49 and then the ex-fisio is the backup.

28:51 » No, they only have one person.

28:54 » Yeah, we only get one person.

28:55 » Right, but you totally understand, I’m actually a member, I

28:58 pay for my membership.

28:59 Like I’m on executive board of directors through my company, so

29:02 I’ll be there every time.

29:04 But it’s good for people to go to, like I would encourage –

29:06 like John’s in every one of them, it’s incredible.

29:10 » Do you – I mean, since you’re stepping out of that,

29:12 do you think it would be in your judgment better that one of us

29:15 take it

29:16 and to represent the district or?

29:18 » I think someone on the school board could serve as a

29:21 representative for now

29:22 until you find your permanent superintendent.

29:24 » I’ll be happy to do that.

29:26 » Yeah, and I think – but just so you guys know, I think that

29:29 everybody should go

29:30 because it’s a huge opportunity to – for our workforce and

29:33 everything else.

29:34 » It would be great if you can send like calendar invites

29:37 or I have Lena send calendar invites when those meetings are,

29:39 that way we can opt

29:40 to attend them if it’s, you know, if we’re available to go.

29:43 » Yep. So Thomas is going to be the lead on that one.

29:46 » Yes.

29:47 » And then I think –

29:47 » You’re the next officio member, right, so you didn’t know –

29:49 you don’t vote, but you –

29:50 » Correct.

29:51 » OK.

29:51 » And then I think Wright is going to be backing them up, but

29:55 we’re all going to attend.

29:57 So, OK, right.

29:59 » Yeah, that’s fine.

30:00 » OK, because I’ll be there no matter what.

30:01 All right, Palm Bay Youth Advisory Board, Ms. Campbell.

30:04 » So this has been pretty much defunct since 2020, but we keep

30:09 it on there in case the Palm Bay

30:11 City Council ever wants to revive it, and it is always the

30:13 representatives from District 5

30:15 and 3 because Palm Bay is – so you all just pick, but like I

30:18 said,

30:18 we haven’t actually done anything.

30:20 They had like seniors from the different high schools in the

30:23 Palm Bay area, representative,

30:25 and then COVID happened and they never were able to revive it.

30:27 But just in case, we always keep it there.

30:28 » OK. Put me down for –

30:30 » Are you the lead on the charter?

30:31 » Put me down for that one.

30:32 » Who was the lead on that one?

30:33 » Lena, who do you have for the lead on the charter?

30:35 » Meghan.

30:37 » What charter?

30:38 » A choice charter liaison.

30:40 » And then Mia’s back.

30:40 » First charter, I have Meghan, right, and then Michelle.

30:43 » That’s good because I’m like looking at your notes going,

30:45 I don’t think I’ve taken the lead on any of these.

30:47 I’m just like, hey, you guys, have fun.

30:48 [ Laughter ]

30:50 » All right, school safety and health and school safety.

30:55 Thomas, what’s going on here?

30:57 Nothing?

30:58 » Wait, wait, dude, Palm Bay Youth Advisory –

31:00 » It’s going to be John and Michelle.

31:04 And – but they have never met, so since – in six years.

31:09 » It’s an easy commitment, right?

31:09 » So they’re going to be ready to pounce when they do meet.

31:13 » You just take credit for the easy ones, I got you now.

31:14 » No, it’s Palm Bay.

31:15 » Mr. Thomas, school health and safety.

31:17 » School health and safety, to be honest with you, I haven’t

31:19 done much with that one.

31:20 So I’m not really sure what the – what the role is.

31:25 » OK. So, I mean, I –

31:29 » It’s supposed to be the committee that puts together this

31:29 district health plan.

31:33 » Yeah, but it’s a little bit – it’s gotten into areas that it

31:38 normally wasn’t.

31:39 So I think when you got on it, it was not – so when I did it

31:42 years ago, it was you had all

31:44 of your trainings that you had for like bicycle safety

31:47 and all that stuff plus our curriculum and all that.

31:50 And then it slowly got to another place.

31:51 I don’t know, does anybody want to take that one?

31:54 » I’ll take the lead.

31:56 » I don’t mind doing it.

31:57 » Whatever we find out it is.

31:58 » I’ve been the alternate and I’m like I haven’t attended any

32:00 meetings.

32:01 I don’t know, I mean, maybe there’s somebody within the district

32:04 that can communicate to us.

32:05 » Yeah. Do we know the point of contact for the staff on this

32:07 one?

32:08 » It should be Ms. Dampier or is it?

32:11 » She said not it.

32:13 » It’s you.

32:14 » OK.

32:14 » All right.

32:15 » So you – I’ll do primary review.

32:20 » Space Coast League of Cities, that’s where all the cities

32:23 meet.

32:24 Mr. Thomas, you’re the lead on it.

32:25 » Yeah. I go to that regularly.

32:27 It’s a good organization, usually the mayors and some of the

32:32 council members

32:32 from around the county get together once a month and have a

32:36 dinner, a little social hour.

32:37 It’s more of a getting to know the other elected officials.

32:40 Once again, I think that’s something we all get invited to go to.

32:44 I’m happy to leave but I’m happy just to go when I can too.

32:47 It doesn’t – I go to most of them.

32:49 » I think everybody should like the Economic Development

32:51 Council.

32:51 » Somebody else wants to take the lead, feel free and just

32:54 whatever.

32:54 » There’s a fee associated with this one as well or no?

32:56 » I always pay for it, it’s 25 bucks.

32:58 » OK. Is it just a fee for – is it a membership fee or is it a

33:00 fee just for the meal?

33:01 » Every night, every time you go.

33:02 » It’s the 25 bucks.

33:04 I always pay my own money.

33:05 » All right.

33:06 » I’m happy to continue or I’m happy to hand it off to someone.

33:09 » It don’t matter to me.

33:10 » I think you should continue it because you have a lot of

33:12 great relationships

33:12 and then maybe Ms. Wright back you up and then we can go for a

33:14 walk.

33:15 » You are volunteering everything today.

33:16 » I’ve been doing a good job.

33:18 » How about you?

33:19 You’re going.

33:20 » I’ve got – I’ve got.

33:20 » All right.

33:21 I’ll be your backup so Mr. Thomas if you can’t attend those just

33:24 let me know

33:24 and I’ll go as your alternate.

33:27 » OK. All right.

33:27 And then we have the discussion for the FSBA alternate.

33:32 We have the board of directors and so just – OK, go ahead.

33:38 » So as a large district we get a spot on the board of

33:41 directors for FSBA, a single seat,

33:45 and we are an odd district, I think we’re district 11, 11 or 13,

33:48 I think we’re 11.

33:49 And so every odd year in the summertime we pick our

33:54 representative on the FSBA board

33:56 of directors because they are a member-led organization.

33:59 And then we have an alternate.

34:00 I’ve been the alternate – you guys will pick in June your next

34:03 one, Mr. Susan is it now,

34:05 but we need an alternate for when Mr. Susan gets busy in.

34:07 » So what I thought is that I would stay there until June

34:13 but I would love you guys to come to some of them.

34:16 They’re great for networking.

34:18 » Yeah.

34:18 » You have – FSBA is going to be a nightmare to try to even

34:21 meet anybody.

34:22 It’s going to be like everybody is, you know what I mean,

34:23 running around.

34:24 But the board of directors, you get to really meet some of the

34:27 people that have been influential

34:28 in policy decision-making for a long time.

34:30 And then you get to intimately get to know everybody and

34:33 everything else.

34:34 So I would like –

34:35 » That sounds just like what I would love to do.

34:37 » I would love to have Michelle come on.

34:39 » Yes, please.

34:39 » But I would also – Michelle, I’d like you to not just be the

34:41 alternate,

34:42 I’d like you to come with me and then stay there.

34:45 And then that way when it comes up over the summer,

34:47 you might be able to transition to take the lead on it.

34:49 » OK.

34:50 » I think that’d be great.

34:51 But I would also say, Kyle, if you have any desire to meet any

34:54 of the other school board members across the state, if you’d

34:56 like to, you could come too.

34:58 » Yeah. We’ll see how that goes.

35:00 » I will tell you that –

35:01 » I’m not quite sure.

35:02 I’ll be a lifelong member of the Florida School Board

35:04 Association.

35:05 » OK.

35:05 » So we’ll see how it goes down.

35:07 » They talked about it at the new school board member lunch

35:10 today.

35:11 And it is going to be at 3.30, I believe, or 3.30 or 4,

35:15 which is after the new school board member training is over.

35:17 And anybody is welcome – you sit around the edge if you’re not

35:19 on the board.

35:21 And so you can – but any member of FSBA is welcome to come and

35:25 sit in it to see how it goes.

35:28 » OK. So that’s good.

35:31 » Love it.

35:31 » And I’ll get you those dates.

35:32 Lena will get them to you and then get hotel rooms and stuff

35:34 like that.

35:35 It’s pretty cool.

35:35 » Perfect.

35:36 » All right.

35:36 Does any other board member have anything further to discuss?

35:39 » Interim superintendent.

35:40 » Oh, yeah.

35:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:42 Thank you for reminding us, Mr. Thomas.

35:43 » I’m going to jump out real fast and just say this obviously,

35:46 I apologize for my emotions getting the better of me earlier

35:48 today.

35:48 I just have the utmost respect for you as an individual and a

35:51 leader.

35:51 So I thank you for what you’ve done there.

35:53 I would love for our interim – I’m going to make the

35:56 recommendation.

35:57 Obviously, we can’t vote on anything today.

35:59 But I would love for Ms. Tara Harris to possibly be our interim

36:02 if she’s willing to lead our district.

36:03 She has championed academic excellence and is really somebody

36:07 who is respected on all sides of every aisle.

36:10 She gets cheered for louder than anybody else when she walks

36:12 into a room.

36:12 And so I think she would lead our district in this time.

36:14 That’s a little, you know, uncertain and probably bring a level

36:18 of peace to the community.

36:19 So my recommendation would be to throw my support behind her.

36:21 » I 100% agree with that statement.

36:24 Tara Harris is amazing meeting with the community and explaining

36:28 Millage and Sir Tax.

36:30 And she’s very well respected by teachers and staff.

36:33 I think she’s incredible.

36:34 So that would be – I would really support that.

36:38 » Kyle.

36:38 » Yeah, I support that.

36:42 She’s – I mean, she was in my classroom 10 years ago when I was

36:47 teaching.

36:47 And she was an amazing resource.

36:49 So I’m, you know, sad to see Dr. Rundell leave, which just wasn’t

36:53 the time and honestly.

36:55 But we are here where we are today.

36:57 And I think Dr. Tara Harris will be an amazing choice for the

37:02 next few months.

37:04 » Yeah.

37:05 » So I support Tara Harris wholeheartedly.

37:09 I think she would be awesome.

37:10 I’d like to just throw it out there, have her be the interim

37:14 through the remainder of the school year.

37:16 And if she’s willing to do it and then maybe we get into the

37:20 early spring and start looking

37:22 at a process for either bringing on and moving or if she’s able

37:28 –

37:28 she wants to throw her hat in the ring and stay on,

37:30 then we can all make that decision when we get there.

37:33 But I’d like to see her stay through the end of the school year.

37:37 » One thing I would just – I’d like to throw this out there

37:39 because this happened in 2022.

37:40 And I don’t know that this will happen again this year.

37:42 But if it does, let’s just say, in 2022, we saw around the state,

37:47 there was just like a huge amount of changes with superintendents.

37:50 And so we were very fortunate because we jumped right away

37:53 immediately to try to find

37:55 that permanent person knowing we were going to have an interim

37:57 there.

37:57 So it may be advantageous to us as a district to go ahead and

38:01 still start that process now

38:02 with the understanding that, you know, if she’s willing to stay

38:05 on to the end

38:05 of the school year, we would love for that to be the case.

38:07 But it might get us more candidates if we do that sooner rather

38:10 than later, you know.

38:11 » For sure.

38:12 I would just like to leave the door open should she decide to

38:14 not retire

38:15 and should we decide to keep her that that is a possibility.

38:18 » I think for me, I think you’re 100% right, Mr. Thomas and Ms.

38:23 Wright,

38:24 that I think that my feeling is, is that you have – so when we

38:28 did this before,

38:29 when you have people that are applying and you’re requesting

38:31 them to come off of their

38:33 like normal school year, anybody that does that is kind of

38:37 selling

38:37 out their actual school district.

38:38 And when they do that, you kind of question their leadership and

38:41 authority, right?

38:43 So I agree with you on your statement of getting to June.

38:46 I think you let Ms. Harris make that decision if she wants to

38:50 throw in.

38:52 But I would say based upon prior knowledge as far as going out

38:55 to bid that –

38:55 or for superintendent, that we should probably get a process

39:00 going and then select somebody

39:01 that would come on in June, respectfully.

39:04 And that way, I will tell you that when we went out, we had the

39:08 most applicants of any

39:10 of the other counties because we did go out ahead of everybody.

39:13 But that was a very shallow group of applicants.

39:17 Like, once you got down to number four, it was like guys that

39:21 thought that were, you know,

39:22 teachers that wanted to be superintendents from Ohio, you know

39:25 what I mean?

39:26 And it was just a little bit off.

39:27 And so I think that that’s why I would say if we could, that’s

39:32 all.

39:33 » Yes, to what you said, John, I agree as well.

39:37 And I think we can start the process or whatever it looks

39:40 like with the concept of hiring for the summer.

39:43 I do want to make sure I guess you would probably be negotiating

39:46 the contract.

39:47 » What I would do –

39:48 » No, I’m not going to be negative about it.

39:50 » No, no, no.

39:50 What I would do is I would go meet with Ms. Harris – hang on.

39:53 Ms. Harris, are you OK with doing that?

39:55 [ Laughter ]

39:58 » We should probably get her in there.

40:00 » But what I would like to do is just bring forward something

40:03 for the board,

40:04 like a quasi this is a good plan kind of –

40:07 » Yeah, I just –

40:08 » And then let the board decide.

40:09 » I just want to make sure that whatever we decide to do that

40:14 whatever her natural end date

40:18 that she would have chosen with Brevard Public Schools is that

40:21 we make her whole no matter what

40:23 happens if she’s superintendent for one minute or for six months

40:27 that the fact

40:28 that she’s hopefully willing to step up that we make sure she is

40:31 whole that way.

40:33 » Yeah. You can write the contract terms to make sure of that.

40:36 I’d agree with that.

40:36 » Does that make sense?

40:37 » Yeah. We’re getting a golden like runway here of

40:40 superintendent.

40:41 » I don’t know if this is appropriate, but I did.

40:46 » Welcome to the frying pan.

40:49 » Pull it towards you there.

40:49 » You just got to be closer.

40:52 » I do think you should put it out immediately for the search

40:56 for many reasons.

40:57 But one is I do plan to retire in the summer.

41:01 So I care so much about Brevard.

41:05 I’m willing to step in in this role to assist.

41:08 We have awesome people around the room that I feel

41:12 like we can support during this transition.

41:14 But I agree we never know how many openings other districts will

41:18 come.

41:18 And I want the best for Brevard, and I want the board to get

41:22 busy finding the very best candidate.

41:26 So –

41:28 » Are you ruling yourself out?

41:30 » I am ruling myself – I am more than happy to do the interim.

41:34 But I am also looking forward to my next chapter outside of PPS,

41:40 which I don’t have any plan.

41:41 Like, let me be clear, I – but I just – I want the very best

41:45 candidate for superintendent.

41:47 And I will help in any fashion in getting the very best here.

41:52 But I am not interested in doing it beyond the interim.

41:56 » And just so you know, by her stating that, you’ll have some

42:00 that would normally not apply

42:01 because 80% of school districts that have an internal candidate

42:06 that’s loved end

42:07 up going with the internal candidate.

42:09 » Yeah.

42:09 » And so thank you for saying that, because now –

42:12 » But we all change our minds.

42:13 » Well, I mean, I’ve lost –

42:15 » And we hope you do.

42:16 » No, I mean, last time, that was true that we were very, very

42:19 clear.

42:20 The board was clear that we didn’t want the interim to be the

42:22 permanent person.

42:22 And we were very vocal about that.

42:24 And I don’t – I don’t know that that necessarily helped us in

42:26 any way.

42:28 I don’t know why we would limit that.

42:30 I mean, I understand what you’re saying.

42:31 And she’s saying she’s making it very clear and public that she

42:33 intends to only be here

42:35 through the end of the summer because she’s going to retire,

42:36 which is a right you have earned.

42:38 And so congratulations on that.

42:39 But – and thank you for being willing to step up because I know

42:42 this is a huge ask

42:43 of really anyone and to Sue that’s back there as well.

42:47 Thank you to her because she’s our deputy superintendent and she,

42:50 you know,

42:50 we’re very blessed because we have a phenomenal team of people

42:54 who are all like, hey, I’ll help,

42:55 I’ll help, I’ll help, wherever I can jump in at.

42:57 And so that, to me, says we have the right people that are

43:00 leading.

43:00 So thank you.

43:01 » So just to clarify for you guys, because I’m your governance

43:05 consultant right now.

43:07 So until such a time as you guys have an agreement, which sounds

43:11 like Paul could get together

43:12 and you guys could vote on a Tuesday, since Dr. Endell’s last

43:16 day is Friday, Sue, as the deputy,

43:19 is the woman in charge until such a time as you guys get to take

43:22 a vote.

43:23 » She’s going to go to town this weekend.

43:24 » Yes.

43:25 » She will.

43:25 » So you need to stay in town this weekend, right?

43:27 But I think that’s – I think it would be good if since you all

43:30 have some consensus to give

43:32 that direction to Paul today so that he can get that together

43:35 for you guys to vote on a Tuesday.

43:36 » And what we’ll do is, is you guys will get a working document

43:39 together

43:40 so that whatever she feels confident about you guys have, you

43:44 can look at it,

43:45 and then you can make recommendations through Paul.

43:48 And then if it gets too, like, if it gets too out of whack,

43:51 then we can discuss it at the board meeting.

43:53 But I feel that Ms. Harris has always been pretty amenable to,

43:57 you know what I mean,

43:58 contract terms and stuff like that.

44:00 » And you guys can always amend it during the process.

44:02 I would recommend also that you don’t wait too long,

44:05 just because of just remembering the timing from last time.

44:07 It went – we went from December to the end of May, so it’s not

44:11 going to be a two

44:13 or three-month process, right?

44:14 » It was in some of those meetings.

44:15 » Yeah. So it’s good to start, because first thing you have to

44:19 do is pick who’s going

44:20 to help you do the search, and then you get the community

44:22 feedback and all.

44:23 And that all takes a time, a little bit of time.

44:25 » I think we can discuss some of that stuff on Tuesday.

44:27 » Yeah.

44:28 » Yes, sir.

44:28 » I just have one other comment, and that is, is that, you know,

44:32 the sign of a great leader is when you can step out of the

44:35 picture

44:35 and your organization keeps on running, because of the people

44:38 that you have on your team.

44:39 So we wouldn’t be in the position to be able to replace you, Dr.

44:42 Wendell,

44:42 if you didn’t have assembled such a great team.

44:45 So kudos to you.

44:48 » Well said.

44:48 All right.

44:49 So I will work with Ms. Harris to bring something you guys can

44:52 draft as we go.

44:53 And then we will come back.

44:55 I would almost – would we want to discuss part of that on

44:59 Tuesday?

45:00 Or do you guys want to wait until Thursday to discuss it?

45:02 » What do you – sorry.

45:04 If you don’t have it by Tuesday, you can’t vote on it.

45:07 » Right.

45:08 » No, I’m talking about going out for search.

45:10 Do you guys want to start talking about the search stuff?

45:13 There’s – FSBA does a phenomenal job as far as searching.

45:16 They know all the local people, they know them all.

45:19 There’s other firms that are nationwide, stuff like that.

45:22 » FSBA does nationwide.

45:23 » Well, they do nationwide, but I just –

45:24 » They likely want to get quotes, so we’ll get with procurement

45:27 and request quotes.

45:28 » All right, I’ll request quotes, we can look at different

45:32 options,

45:32 and we can either discuss it on Tuesday or Thursday.

45:35 It’s probably going to have to be Thursday now.

45:37 » I doubt the quotes are going to come in that quickly, though,

45:39 I mean, I don’t know, I mean –

45:40 » Yeah, they’ll probably give them a week or so.

45:42 » I was going to say, I would like like a half a second

45:43 to breathe in between all the things that have happened.

45:46 » Yeah, but we have a meeting, what, December 6th?

45:48 You should be able to have that by then, right?

45:50 » December 8th.

45:51 » 8th.

45:51 » 8th, whatever it is.

45:55 » Yeah, if we get it earlier, we’ll discuss it earlier, no big

45:57 deal.

45:57 All right, everybody good?

45:59 » Yeah.

46:00 » Anything else for –

46:00 » Thank you, Ms. Harris.

46:02 » – for stepping in.

46:03 » Thank you.

46:03 » Mr. Chair, if I could just offer some comments.

46:05 » Yes, sir, absolutely.

46:06 » First of all, thank you to Tara for having the guts to step

46:12 in and serve

46:14 as an interim whenever you guys finalize the details.

46:17 Sue, of course, will act as the interim superintendent beginning

46:21 Monday

46:21 or beginning Saturday morning.

46:24 And so she’ll be the one that opens the meeting on Tuesday and

46:28 runs, you know,

46:29 with you guys on the meeting on Tuesday and Thursday.

46:32 My suggestion is that you do advertise

46:35 and pursue a superintendent candidate as soon as possible.

46:38 There are three other districts open in Florida right now.

46:42 And they’ve already begun their search processes.

46:45 So Mr. Susan mentioned that you guys were first out of the gate

46:49 a few years ago

46:51 and there were seven districts open at that time.

46:53 » That’s where it will end up.

46:55 » So I wouldn’t wait any time.

46:57 And I will counter Mr. Susan’s argument that if someone were

47:01 willing to leave their place

47:03 of employment mid-year, that they would be bailing on that place

47:06 of employment.

47:07 Well, this is a pretty attractive position.

47:10 So I would imagine high quality candidates would be applying.

47:13 And if you were to hire them January, February, March, something

47:18 like that,

47:19 they’re going to come, you know, it’s not that they’re like,

47:23 well, you know, I can’t leave now.

47:24 You know, for a job like this, they would– so.

47:28 » Yeah. It’s a year-round job.

47:30 It’s a year-round job and, you know, there’s never a perfect

47:32 time.

47:32 » Yeah. So I would move as soon as possible.

47:36 It’s my recommendation.

47:37 OK.

47:39 » What action do we need to move as soon as possible to put the–

47:41 I mean, we need to put the procurement–

47:42 » Yeah, you get to– as soon as possible is probably like the

47:44 meeting in December is

47:46 when you’ll make your decision on your time–

47:48 who you’re going to use as a search firm and all that.

47:50 I just wouldn’t wait.

47:51 I wouldn’t put it off.

47:54 » We’ll bring back some information but we won’t make any

47:56 decisions at the next meeting

47:57 and then we can wait until December 8th for final decisions.

48:01 And you guys can just look on the agendas for her contract to

48:06 make sure you’re OK with it.

48:07 If there’s anything wrong, you guys can make adjustments.

48:10 » Or Paul, can you just email it out to each of us?

48:12 Is that OK individually?

48:13 » Once I get it finalized, yeah.

48:14 » OK, perfect.

48:14 And then that way, if there’s any things that we have concerns

48:16 over, then–

48:17 » Yup. Anything else to discuss?

48:21 No? OK.

48:23 » Welcome aboard.

48:23 » Oh, we usually talk about like all the nitty-gritty of stuff

48:26 but I think you guys have figured out here’s what I would just

48:29 say is these people make sure–

48:34 I know you’re working all the way up until the day before the

48:36 meetings, God bless your soul.

48:38 But have meetings with all these people so that you know–

48:41 and I know Kyle, we had talked about that yesterday.

48:43 So you know what they do, where they are.

48:45 You’re going to get lost in this building if you– I’ve been

48:46 here for eight years.

48:47 Somebody had to walk me back to payroll yesterday.

48:51 » There’s a trash can system on there.

48:52 » I know, but it does– it only works if you remember which

48:55 color is which part.

48:56 So it’s OK.

48:57 I always look helpless since somebody takes me there.

49:00 » I can never remember the colors.

49:01 » I can’t either but–

49:02 » That’s all right.

49:02 Lena, Lena, tuck me.

49:04 Lena, tuck me.

49:05 But I encourage you to take advantage of that.

49:08 I know you guys are going both to FSBA and all that good stuff.

49:12 You’ve both been employees before and are current employees so

49:14 you get the whole payroll

49:15 and all that kind of stuff so you don’t have to learn that part

49:18 but these are, you know,

49:21 the superintendents have always been open to us having

49:26 conversations with the cabinet level

49:28 when we needed to, to ask questions and they’ve always been open.

49:31 I imagine that will continue with the next superintendents.

49:33 So take advantage of that opportunity because they’re part of

49:36 your team.

49:37 » Thank you.

49:38 » Sounds good.

49:39 You guys all good?

49:40 » Yep.

49:41 » All right.

49:42 That concludes the meeting.

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