Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL

2021-09-09 - School Board Meeting

0:00 (upbeat music)

0:30 - Good evening.

0:31 I’m happy to welcome all of my fellow board members

0:33 and the public and call the September 9th, 2021

0:37 final public budget hearing

0:39 and school board meeting to order.

0:41 This is a business meeting of the board

0:43 held in the public.

0:44 As such, the board is authorized to adopt rules or policies

0:48 to maintain orderly conduct and proper decorum

0:50 in a public meeting.

0:53 Please note that your presence here

0:54 is subject to those rules and policies.

0:57 Pursuant to Florida statute 877.13,

1:01 it is unlawful in the misdemeanor of the second degree,

1:05 punishable by up to 60 days in jail

1:08 and a $500 fine for any person

1:13 to knowingly disrupt or interfere

1:15 with the lawful administration

1:17 or functions of any educational institution or school board,

1:21 or knowingly to advise, counsel or instruct

1:25 any school pupil or school employee

1:27 to disrupt any school or school board function

1:30 or activity on school board property.

1:34 To facilitate an amenable environment for all,

1:38 please be aware of the following.

1:40 For our policy, masks are currently required at all times

1:44 while indoors on school district property,

1:46 unless a verified medical exemption has been provided.

1:50 Two, if you must leave the building for any reason,

1:52 you will not be permitted to reenter.

1:54 Your seat will be given to the next person waiting to enter.

1:58 Three, the appropriate place

2:00 for public participation in the meeting

2:01 is during your individual public comment opportunity

2:04 as identified in the agenda.

2:06 Outside of your individual public comment opportunity,

2:09 your role in the meeting is as an observer.

2:13 Four, I will ask persons deemed to be knowingly

2:16 or intentionally disrupting this meeting

2:17 of the school board of Brevard County

2:19 or not complying with policy to stop or leave.

2:23 If persons receiving the warning

2:24 choose not to follow my instructions,

2:26 I will instruct Brevard County Sheriff’s deputies

2:28 to take any law enforcement action they deem appropriate,

2:32 and you may be escorted, detained, or arrested

2:35 depending on the conduct.

2:37 Persons who refuse to depart after a warning

2:40 may also be committing the crime of trespassing

2:42 in accordance with Florida statute section 810.08.

2:46 These statutes apply to conduct on all school board property

2:49 which includes this boardroom

2:51 as well as the outside of this building to the sidewalk.

2:56 If you continue to cause a disruption,

2:57 you are advised that you were in violation

2:59 of Florida state statute 877.13.

3:03 Or if you fail to leave the premises

3:04 after being warned by the Sheriff’s office,

3:07 you are committing trespass

3:08 and the board has authorized the Sheriff’s office

3:10 to enforce these rules.

3:12 In the event multiple individuals fail

3:14 to adhere to these expectations

3:16 and board business cannot continue due to disruption,

3:19 I will call a recess

3:20 and request that the law enforcement officers present

3:22 clear the boardroom of attendees.

3:24 When the room is cleared, the board will return

3:26 and resume their meeting with no public presence.

3:29 Those who are signed up to speak

3:30 will be seated under the front entry area

3:32 and called in when it is your time to speak.

3:35 Ms. Escobar, roll call, please.

3:37 - Mrs. Belford. - Present.

3:39 - Ms. McDougall. - Present.

3:40 - Mrs. Jenkins. - Present.

3:42 - Mr. Susan. - Present.

3:44 - And Mrs. Campbell. - Present.

3:47 - The board will now hold a moment of silent reflection

3:49 in memory of DPS family members who recently passed away.

3:53 Dana Mitchell, a before and after childcare group leader

3:56 from Imperial Estates.

3:58 Clarice Jackson, a cafeteria cashier

4:00 from Cambridge Elementary.

4:02 Linda Jabkiewicz, a cafeteria manager

4:04 from Food and Nutrition Services.

4:06 And Candace Verity, a Head Start advocate.

4:23 - Thank you.

4:36 Please stand for the pledge.

4:44 - I pledge allegiance to the flag

4:47 of the United States of America

4:49 and to the republic for which it stands,

4:52 one nation under God, indivisible,

4:55 with liberty and justice for all.

5:03 - At this time, I would like to offer

5:04 my fellow board members and Dr. Mullins

5:06 the opportunity to recognize students, staff,

5:08 or members of the community.

5:11 Who’d like to start us off?

5:13 Ms. McDougall.

5:16 - I’m gonna start by giving a huge shout out

5:19 to the facilities department, especially couple weeks ago,

5:24 Poco had a blown transformer and they had to vacate,

5:31 the school got real hot obviously,

5:33 and the transformer wasn’t a little one.

5:35 They had to bring in a crane from Daytona,

5:38 which meant our facilities team worked through the night

5:41 to make sure the next day with Florida Power and Light

5:44 to make sure that there was air conditioning.

5:46 So my shout out is to, I hope I get everybody’s name right,

5:50 Kevin Batchelder, Mike Vilgotti, did I say that right?

5:55 Did I say that right, Ms. Tan?

5:56 I don’t know if I did.

5:58 Ron Anderson, Sean Click, Greg Walsh, Larry Elmore,

6:03 Jason Pitcher, Keith Stevenson, and Jim Ross.

6:06 So a big shout out to them for working through the night

6:09 to make sure the next day that our students

6:11 and staff had air conditioning.

6:13 So thank you very much for going above and beyond.

6:16 - Thank you, Ms. Van Google.

6:17 Ms. Campbell?

6:19 - Thank you.

6:20 So I just wanted to highlight a special recognition week

6:25 that is coming up, September the 12th through the 18th

6:28 is National Arts and Education Week.

6:30 We have Arts and Education Month, which is in the spring,

6:32 but National Arts and Education Week is next week.

6:35 And I just applaud all of our arts teachers,

6:39 which include our elementary music and strings teachers,

6:41 our art teachers, which have all the different kinds,

6:45 drawings, ceramics, this is not your mama’s art class.

6:48 We have digital arts as well, band, orchestra, choir,

6:52 theater, music theater.

6:54 My family has particularly been blessed

6:56 to be a part of many of these programs.

6:59 And I’m so thankful for all of our arts teachers

7:01 across the district who do such a fantastic job

7:04 and always represent our district well,

7:06 and our students represent, under their tutelage,

7:08 represent our district well in state competitions

7:10 and national competitions as well.

7:12 So thank you to all of our arts teachers.

7:16 - Thank you, Ms. Campbell.

7:17 Ms. Benkert?

7:18 - Yeah.

7:20 Can I put myself on now?

7:21 - Yeah. - Thank you.

7:24 I, this Saturday, there are a lot of events going around,

7:29 going on around Brevard for 9/11.

7:32 And I found one that I thought would be particularly

7:35 interesting to participate in.

7:36 I’m really looking forward to it.

7:38 The Cocoa Firefighters are doing

7:40 a 9/11 Memorial Stair Climb.

7:43 And they are going to be climbing 2,071 steps,

7:46 which equals the 110 floors of the World Trade Center.

7:49 And it’s gonna be taking place at the Richard Blake Stadium.

7:52 And you’re still able to register

7:54 if you wanna participate.

7:55 There’s no time to complete it.

7:57 And you don’t have to complete it completely if you can’t.

8:00 But you can register at coco911stairclimb.com.

8:06 - Thank you, Ms. Benkert.

8:07 Mr. Susan?

8:09 - Yeah, I wanted to say,

8:10 I don’t know if everybody out here follows sports

8:13 or anything like that,

8:14 but this weekend opened up college football,

8:16 which reminded me, since you mentioned Coco,

8:19 that we got a little bit of a bet coming.

8:21 - Yeah, they’re number one.

8:22 - Right, who’s number one?

8:23 - Coco.

8:24 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

8:25 Coco is an amazing program.

8:27 And for those of you that don’t know,

8:29 Ms. McDougall and I have a little running bet

8:31 that when Rockledge plays Coco,

8:33 we always have to, whoever wins,

8:34 has to wear whatever it is on the other outfit, right?

8:38 So last year, I had to wear the Coco Tiger hat,

8:41 which I think I still have a rash from,

8:43 but we’re gonna be doing something else this year.

8:46 That game is gonna be Wednesday, November 3rd,

8:49 and it’s in my house this time.

8:51 So I’ll make sure you’re taken care of

8:53 and they don’t harass you too much.

8:55 But look, I think we got it this year.

8:57 - Don’t hold your breath.

8:58 - Yeah. (laughs)

9:00 And then I wanted to say thank you to Russell Broom.

9:02 We were working on getting together,

9:04 and the school board members were talking about it.

9:06 We’re gonna start talking about our career

9:08 and technical programs,

9:09 and we’re gonna get into our schools

9:11 and start showing those off.

9:12 So Russell Broom and everybody are doing it.

9:14 We’re gonna try to show our community what we have.

9:17 Last year, we did a couple of them,

9:19 but so that everybody here knows, we have aviation,

9:22 we have automotive, construction, and everything else.

9:25 And while this is going on,

9:27 we can’t forget that these kids need to get to work.

9:30 So just wanted to say thank you to Russell

9:31 for working on setting that up,

9:32 and we’re gonna get moving here in about a month and a half.

9:35 Good, thank you.

9:36 - Thank you, Mr. Susan.

9:37 Sergeant Mullen.

9:39 - Thank you, Ms. Belford.

9:39 I wanna take the opportunity just to give a shout-out

9:42 and my appreciation to several BPS staff members

9:46 across several divisions here at ESF.

9:50 Over the last couple of few weeks,

9:52 we’ve experienced absences at a higher rate

9:55 than we anticipated,

9:56 and with a lower rate of substitutes available,

10:00 it required and called on folks here

10:03 to go out to our schools

10:04 and support our classrooms and our schools.

10:07 And without any reservation or any hesitation,

10:11 our staff jumped to response to support our schools,

10:15 to keep our schools open, to meet the needs.

10:18 Certainly, Leading and Learning sent several staff

10:22 out to our schools, student services, even operations,

10:25 government, community relations, human resources, and so on.

10:30 But even in our schools,

10:32 administrators are going to help other schools

10:34 in administrative capacities.

10:36 Going down an administrator themself at their school

10:39 to help another school that’s in need.

10:41 Just a tremendous demonstration of dedication

10:44 and a commitment to teamwork.

10:45 And I just continue to be immensely proud

10:48 of this organization and the work that we go to

10:50 to serve our kids and serve our schools.

10:53 So thank you to our team.

10:56 - Thank you, Dr. Mullens.

10:59 I know board members, we have talked quite a bit

11:01 about the struggles that we’ve been having

11:04 with getting testing for our faculty, our staff,

11:06 and our students.

11:07 And hopefully you all saw Ms. Moore’s email

11:11 that went out this week,

11:12 that we are going to have some of those home test kits

11:15 that we will have in our schools and at facilities here

11:18 for symptomatic individuals to be able to test at home,

11:21 alleviating some of that challenge.

11:24 And so I just wanna give a shout out

11:25 to all the folks that are coordinating that.

11:27 Obviously, as you can imagine,

11:28 distributing throughout the district is not easy

11:33 all the time, right?

11:34 Making sure that we have everybody covered.

11:35 So just super excited that we’re gonna have that opportunity

11:39 for our students and our staff and our faculties

11:41 to be able to get back to loving learning

11:45 as soon as possible.

11:46 And then I also wanna give a shout out

11:48 to many of our schools have transitioned

11:51 and already taken part in the virtual open houses

11:55 since we gave the direction

11:56 that we didn’t want large groups of people around,

11:59 had the opportunity to participate

12:01 in one of them last night.

12:02 And if there’s anything that I can say

12:05 that has come out of this challenge

12:08 of the last 18, 19 months,

12:11 it’s that our folks have gotten incredibly creative

12:13 about the way that we work.

12:15 And they just did a phenomenal job

12:17 on the open house last night and great information.

12:20 And the nice thing is it’s there

12:22 that we can go back to anytime and view it again.

12:24 So really a bonus there.

12:26 So thanks to everyone who is working so hard to work around

12:30 and over the challenges that we’ve been facing.

12:34 - All right, that is going to bring us

12:37 to the adoption of the agenda, Dr. Mullen.

12:39 - Ms. Belford and members of the board,

12:41 on this evening’s agenda, we have the final budget hearing,

12:44 which includes the superintendent’s presentation,

12:47 public hearings and recommendations.

12:49 On the regular school board meeting,

12:50 we have administrative staff recommendations,

12:53 16 consent items, two action items,

12:56 and one information item.

12:59 Changes made to the agenda since it was first released

13:01 to the public on Tuesday, August 18, 2021 are as follows.

13:06 Items A-16 on administrative staff recommendations,

13:10 F-22 on instructional staff recommendations,

13:14 F-23 on support staff recommendations,

13:17 F-18 on meeting minutes,

13:20 and F-26 on code of student conduct all received revision.

13:25 Attachments were added to items A-7

13:27 on superintendent’s presentation,

13:29 final public budget hearing, A-12 on adopt

13:33 the 2021-2022 budget,

13:37 and F-21 on annual financial reports

13:40 for fiscal year 2020-21.

13:43 - What are the wishes of the board?

13:45 - Move to review.

13:46 - Second.

13:47 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. McDougall.

13:49 Is there any discussion?

13:51 Hearing none, please vote.

13:59 (faintly speaking)

14:08 - No, really, I don’t, it’s not, I don’t know.

14:10 - Yeah, it’s not just you.

14:16 - I refresh.

14:17 - Refresh.

14:26 Do you want to voice vote?

14:27 All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

14:30 - Aye.

14:30 - Any opposed, same sign.

14:32 The motion passes five-zero.

14:34 - Okay, it’s saying that–

14:36 - Present, yes.

14:36 - Yeah.

14:39 - Did you get that, Pam?

14:46 Maybe it’s just figurative.

14:57 - All right.

15:03 All right, we will proceed with the second

15:05 and final public hearing for the 2021-2022

15:08 proposed millage rates and tentative budget.

15:10 The hearing of September 9, 2021 is now in session.

15:19 Feel like I might have.

15:23 All right, now we will move into the presentation

15:25 portion of this hearing, Ms. Cindy Lascinski,

15:27 Chief Financial Officer will make a presentation

15:29 on the proposed 2021-2022 budget and millage levy.

15:33 Ms. Lascinski.

15:39 - Good evening, members, Dr. Mone.

15:42 This is the second and final budget hearing.

15:54 This slide depicts the agenda for this evening.

16:08 So I’m gonna start off with the truth and millage.

16:11 So the truth and millage legislation

16:14 requirements are detailed under Florida statutes.

16:17 Trim timelines are very prescriptive in law

16:21 and the clock started on July 1st.

16:23 The total timeline to budget adoption is 80 days.

16:27 The statute dictates the order of business

16:29 during the budget hearings

16:31 and trim requires two public hearings

16:34 for open discussion of the millage rates

16:36 and the proposed budget.

16:45 So millage is a term that represents the tax rate

16:48 levied on real estate or other property.

16:51 One mill is equivalent to $1 in taxes

16:55 per $1,000 in taxable value.

16:58 If your home has a taxable value of $100,000

17:01 and you’re assessed a mill tax rate,

17:04 you would pay $100.

17:15 The Florida Education Finance Program or FEFP

17:19 is the centerpiece for financing Florida school districts

17:22 operating costs.

17:24 Funding for FEFP combines state funds

17:28 primarily generated from sales tax revenue

17:32 and local funds generated from property tax revenue.

17:36 Our balance here in Brevard is approximately 65, 35%.

17:43 So 65% of our funding comes from the state,

17:47 35 comes from our taxes on our property.

17:52 Required local effort is the local amount of funds

17:55 the district receives from living

17:57 the state certified local millage rate

17:59 on the district taxable property.

18:03 And it’s key to understand

18:05 that the Florida legislature sets this rate.

18:08 So the Florida legislature

18:10 that’s the required local effort millage rate.

18:14 And the school board must levy this RLE effort millage rate

18:19 in order to receive any state funding

18:21 under the Florida Education Finance Program.

18:25 So in order to get the 60% of the funds,

18:28 we have to make sure that we levy the RLE

18:34 in order to get the funding for our school district.

18:41 The proposed required local effort,

18:43 which is set again by the legislature is 3.602.

18:50 The legislature establishes maximums

18:53 for the basic discretionary operating

18:57 and the capital outlay millage rate.

19:00 The total proposed millage related to school funding

19:04 for 2001, 2002 school year is 5.850 mills.

19:12 This millage will generate revenue

19:14 for the general operating and capital outlay funds.

19:18 - Ms. Lisinski, can I interrupt you for just one second?

19:20 I apologize.

19:21 I just wanna remind our audience

19:22 that you are required to have masks while in the boardroom.

19:25 So please make sure that your masks are on

19:26 and you’re wearing them appropriately.

19:28 If you are not going to be wearing them in the boardroom,

19:30 then we would ask that you leave.

19:33 Ms. Lisinski.

19:36 - So maintaining these millage rates

19:39 at the same level as in 2021 allows the district

19:44 to continue our work to serve every student with excellence.

19:50 And then here you can see how the funding comes

19:55 in the different areas.

19:57 So the required local effort is required again

20:03 in order to participate

20:04 in the Florida Education Finance Program.

20:06 So if we wanna fund our district,

20:08 we must levy that tax

20:11 and we will receive approximately 178.9 million

20:17 in local tax proceeds.

20:20 And then we have the full basic discretionary millage,

20:24 which will garner about 37.2 million in operating costs.

20:29 And in addition to that,

20:30 since when we levy the 7.48 millage rate,

20:37 we end up not being,

20:39 we end up being below the state average.

20:41 So because of that,

20:43 we’re able to generate an additional 7 million 360.

20:54 And then the local capital improvement millage or LCI

20:58 will provide the district 74.5 million,

21:05 37.6 comes off the top to pay district’s debt service,

21:10 which covers principal and interest payments

21:13 for previously bonded debt

21:15 that was issued primarily between the years 1996 through 2008

21:22 in order to build schools and provide major renovations.

21:25 LCI contributes 10.3 million

21:28 towards maintenance costs for labor.

21:31 LCI also pays for the district property insurance

21:34 which leaves 21.1 million for capital needs projects

21:40 throughout the district.

21:49 So this slide depicts the historic millage rates

21:52 over the last 10 years.

21:54 Since FY 13, the required local effort millage rates

21:58 have declined each year

22:00 as our property values have increased in the county.

22:04 This has been the trend because of the healthy growth

22:07 of statewide property values

22:08 each year since the great recession.

22:11 Lawmakers reduced the RLE millage rate

22:14 to limit the revenue generated from this source.

22:17 This is a conscious effort

22:19 to reduce the tax burden on homeowners.

22:29 As required by TRMM,

22:30 we must compare the proposed millage rate

22:32 to the rollback rate.

22:34 The rollback rate is the millage rate

22:36 that would generate the same amount of revenue

22:38 as last year if applied

22:40 to the current year’s adjusted taxable value.

22:43 Said another way,

22:44 the state rolls back the rate as property values increase

22:47 to bring the total dollars available

22:49 roughly equivalent to the prior year.

22:52 Under TRMM, the rollback rate is the benchmark

22:55 for determining if tax rates have increased or decreased.

22:59 The rollback rate is generally less

23:01 than the proposed tentative rate.

23:03 When the rollback rate is less

23:05 than the proposed millage rate

23:07 that we received from the state,

23:09 we must advertise a tax increase.

23:19 So the certified school property values

23:22 is a large component of how education is funded

23:25 in the state of Florida.

23:27 FY 2009 was the highest annual tax roll

23:31 prior to the great recession.

23:34 Property values have increased each year since 2013.

23:40 And if you look down here,

23:41 you’ll see the 2021 values is what was recently certified

23:45 by the property appraiser.

23:48 And the 21-22 values are the latest state projections

23:51 for next year.

23:53 And this projection actually doubled since March

23:59 when the Office of Economic and Demographic Research

24:03 put out their projection.

24:05 And it’s amazing to me that our tax roll

24:08 during such an uncertain time

24:11 has increased over $3 billion.

24:14 This is mainly due to high demand for homes

24:16 driven by low interest rates and growth.

24:27 This slide illustrates the changes

24:28 in school-related property taxes

24:30 for a homeowner over several years.

24:33 In this example, a home valued at 200,000 in 2016

24:38 would have generated roughly 1,210

24:42 in school-related property tax.

24:46 If the owner qualified for Save Our Homes

24:48 by a 2021-22 school year,

24:52 the assessed value of the same home

24:54 would be 220,000

24:59 based on that valuation,

25:02 the school-related property tax would be about 1,142.

25:06 This is an increase of nine cents from 2020 tax year.

25:19 And so, what does this mean?

25:23 The average family will pay about $1,000 in property taxes

25:28 on a home assessed at $200,000.

25:31 And what that means to the schools in the district

25:35 is $2.80 a day.

25:39 And then the $2.80 per day pays for teachers,

25:42 school counselors, buses, electricity, fuel,

25:47 I mean, lab equipment, laptops,

25:50 just everything that we need

25:55 was that $2.80 a day.

26:05 And so, now we’re here

26:07 at the 21-22 proposed tentative budget.

26:10 Both the operating and the capital budgets are balanced.

26:14 A year ago, we faced much uncertainty about the economy,

26:18 how long the length and the severity of the pandemic

26:22 in the county, in the state, in the nation, and globally.

26:27 The board made difficult decisions

26:28 and made budget reductions

26:30 in anticipation of budget reduction of $15 million

26:35 due to enrollment decline

26:37 and additional cuts to cover rising FRS and healthcare costs.

26:43 That said, it could have been worse.

26:46 The district was fortunate to be held harmless

26:49 in school year 21.

26:51 As a result, we were able to capture

26:53 approximately 8.9 million in one-time savings

26:57 from FY21 classroom savings

27:01 that we were able to balance our FY22 budget.

27:08 Although using one-time savings is not ideal,

27:14 it is consistent with how we utilized our ARRA funds

27:18 during the Great Recession.

27:19 We still have uncertainty around enrollment

27:21 and will continue to monitor and make necessary adjustments

27:25 in order to minimize our dependence on one-time dollars

27:29 while at the same time,

27:30 ensure we have resources available

27:34 to meet the needs of every student.

27:45 This slide kinda lays out or breaks out a little bit further

27:49 and it starts with the fund balance as of July 1st.

27:54 It shows our revenues, our expenditures,

27:56 transfers in, transfers out

27:58 and projected fund balance for June 30th.

28:02 And again, I know I say this every meeting,

28:04 a budget is a plan based on estimated revenue

28:07 and expenditures, it is not money in the bank.

28:11 It is a starting point, a starting point.

28:13 Lost revenue like enrollment decline, increased expenses

28:17 and/or emerging requirements impact the bottom line.

28:21 No plan survives for first contact.

28:25 The key is to build branches and sequels

28:28 as we closely monitor the execution of our budget.

28:33 And then the total tentative budget is 1,281,988,000.

28:43 Do I got that right?

28:44 698.

28:48 And then the next step is a notification

28:52 of the final millage in budget.

28:59 Are there any questions?

29:03 - I think our members have questions for Ms. Lusensky

29:04 on the presentation.

29:09 Ms. Campbell?

29:10 - I just had a quick comment.

29:12 Just had a quick comment and a thank you.

29:15 I was trying to find the place

29:17 and I couldn’t find where you guys had talked about.

29:21 I think it’s in the section on the special revenue.

29:23 Yeah, there it is.

29:25 That talks about our ESSER dollars.

29:27 And first of all, I wanna thank you.

29:28 I know we’re gonna be approving it later,

29:30 our annual financial report.

29:33 I just appreciate that you guys put all that

29:35 in its own section because I think that helps for us

29:38 to see the federal dollars that have come in, COVID relief.

29:41 It also helps the public to be able to see it.

29:45 And I just wanted, and I can see it in the budget as well,

29:49 even though we haven’t received the next set of dollars.

29:53 But I would encourage the public to take a look

29:57 at the annual financial report for last year,

30:00 as well as my federal board members starting on page nine,

30:03 so I think about page 15.

30:05 It lists the income we have received.

30:08 There was some question back in the spring

30:09 in the legislature about school districts

30:11 who hadn’t used their CARES Act dollars

30:14 because they were looking at old data that showed,

30:17 “This is how much you’ve gotten in.”

30:18 But I just wanted to highlight that

30:21 for the first round of money that we received last year,

30:23 which was not counting the gear money,

30:26 but the ESSER number one from the CARES Act

30:28 was $17 million, and out of that, as of June 30th,

30:33 there was only $1.8 million left of that to be expended,

30:38 which at this point, a lot of that

30:40 could actually be expended.

30:42 And then there’s a page that I think the public needs to see

30:45 in the board on page 12 of the annual financial report

30:49 that lists ESSER two, which was passed

30:52 by the US Congress in December of last year,

30:56 and we still haven’t received those dollars,

30:58 and it makes planning very difficult.

31:00 And so I appreciate the work that you guys are doing

31:02 and our staff to try to cashflow that.

31:06 I see that we’ve made some expenditures,

31:07 but we’re still waiting on that.

31:09 So if you have any updates, I’d love to hear them,

31:11 but I’ve not put anybody in spot on that,

31:13 but I just think it’s important for us

31:15 to continue to remember and the public to understand

31:17 that those dollars were passed.

31:18 They’ve already been set aside.

31:20 We’re still waiting through the same process.

31:22 I know Brevard Public Schools has issued our county plan

31:28 to use those dollars, but they’re not here yet.

31:31 But it also is a good, because I continue to get questions

31:34 about what did you guys spend the money on?

31:36 Is this a good place to start?

31:38 And what is our plan to use it moving forward?

31:40 That is all in here in the budget.

31:43 So thank you guys for putting that in there.

31:46 Not really a question, but I just appreciate it.

31:48 And I wanna make sure that the public is aware

31:50 that we’re still waiting on the second round money.

31:51 And of course the American Rescue Plan was passed

31:54 in the spring, and we really have no idea

31:56 when those dollars are gonna come,

31:58 which could be really beneficial to our district

32:01 as we continue to fight the challenges of the pandemic,

32:06 as far as technology and student support,

32:09 catching kids up who have missed so much school,

32:11 buying PPE and all of that.

32:13 And then just trying to get out of this

32:16 over the next few years.

32:17 And so just the public needs to be aware of that.

32:19 And I wanna highlight it as often as we can

32:22 until we have the advantage of those dollars

32:25 to actually use.

32:26 So thank you guys for your work to do.

32:28 And if you wanted to add anything, jump right in,

32:30 but mainly it was a thank you.

32:31 - Well, actually some good news, there is some movement.

32:34 And of the four areas, the academic acceleration,

32:39 we received those funds, so that was 10.8 million.

32:42 And we also received the non-enrollment assistance fund.

32:46 We’re still waiting on the lump sum,

32:48 which is the big amount, the 38.65 million.

32:52 And the good news is the state has called,

32:54 they only had one question.

32:56 So I think that should be moving.

32:59 - Can you give me the academic assistance was 10 million?

33:02 - 10.8.

33:03 - Okay, and then what was the other–

33:05 - Non-enrollment assistance, 2.177.

33:09 We’re still waiting on the tech assistance, 2.7 million.

33:13 And then the lump sum, we’re still waiting on.

33:16 - All right, thank you so much.

33:17 That is good news.

33:21 - We have not heard anything about ESSER number three yet,

33:24 or our American Rescue Plan Fund.

33:27 So we are still waiting to get direction

33:28 from the state on those funds.

33:31 The state did reach out and ask a couple questions just,

33:35 but we haven’t received.

33:39 - And Dr. Mullins, did you indicate that the state

33:43 has not yet submitted to the federal government

33:46 their plan on ESSER three?

33:48 - That was my last understanding, yes.

33:51 As of last communication, the state had not received

33:54 approval from the federal government

33:56 for their version of application for ESSER number three.

34:00 So yet I do know that not only other states

34:05 have received the funds and distributed in the districts,

34:07 but particularly school districts have received the funds

34:10 and started utilizing them in their districts

34:12 in other states, not in Florida.

34:14 - It is my understanding from something I read this last week

34:17 that the state has received about 2/3 of that money.

34:22 We just don’t have the other 1/3 is what,

34:25 which is the waiting on the application.

34:26 I don’t know if that–

34:27 - That’s true. - Okay.

34:31 - But that’s not to suggest districts have received 2/3.

34:35 The state has received 2/3 of ESSER number three.

34:39 We’ve not received the first release of what is called,

34:45 oh, just left me, invitation, what is it?

34:51 Yes, RFA, request–

34:55 - For application. - For application, thank you.

34:57 It’s having a brain block there, thank you.

35:00 - Yes, and anything else for Ms. Lissinski?

35:05 Okay, we are going to move on to, let’s see.

35:14 The hearing is now open for public comments.

35:16 We will in accordance with Florida law,

35:17 accept the speakers in the following order,

35:19 the 2021/2022 proposed millage levy,

35:22 followed by the 2021/2022 tentative budget.

35:26 Is there any individual that would like to address the board

35:28 on the 2021/2022 proposed millage levy?

35:38 Yes, you can, hold on, if you could, Ms. Lissinski,

35:43 we have one, if you could read the mic.

35:45 - You mentioned that we could,

35:48 you encouraged the public to look at this or someone did,

35:51 maybe Katie, and I just was wondering

35:53 where we would find that information.

35:57 So if you can go ahead and take a seat,

36:00 if that was the, and we will address that.

36:03 Typically, we don’t address questions

36:05 during the public comment,

36:05 but I will get to it when we wrap up, okay?

36:08 Is there anyone else that would like to address the board

36:10 on the 2021/2022 proposed millage levy?

36:17 Is there any individual that would like to address the board

36:19 on the 2021/2022 proposed millage levy?

36:25 Is there any individual that would like to address the board

36:27 on the 2021/2022 tentative budget?

36:33 Is there any individual that would like to address the board

36:35 on the 2021/2022 tentative budget?

36:40 The public comment portion of this hearing is now closed.

36:45 Ms. Lissinski, would you like to address

36:47 where our public can access this information?

36:52 Would you like to address

36:53 where our public can access this information?

36:57 Sorry, the AFR and the budget document

37:07 are both attached to tonight’s agenda.

37:09 So if you go to the school board webpage

37:13 and go down through the agenda,

37:14 you will find both attached, okay?

37:17 You can download them.

37:19 - Thank you.

37:21 All right, that is going to bring us to recommendations

37:23 for the adoption of the 2021/2022

37:26 proposed millage levy and tentative budget.

37:28 Ms. Lissinski?

37:34 - Florida Statute 200.065 requires each taxing authority

37:42 levying millage to publicly state

37:46 the name of the taxing authority, the rollback rates,

37:49 the percentage of change from the rollback rate,

37:52 and the millage rate to be levied

37:54 prior to the adoption of the millage levy resolution.

37:58 In compliance with those requirements,

38:00 the following need to be stated.

38:03 The taxing authority is the school board

38:06 of Brevard County, Florida.

38:09 Required local effort, 3.5600.

38:17 The 2021/22 rollback rates are the required local effort

38:24 of 3.5600, local discretionary is 0.7209,

38:35 capital outlay is 1.4456, total rollback rate is 5.7265.

38:45 The total millage rate to be levied

38:47 exceeds the total rollback rate by 2.16%.

38:53 The proposed 2021/22 millage rates

38:56 are required local effort, 3.602,

39:02 local discretionary, 0.748,

39:06 capital outlay, 1.500, total millage rate, 5.850.

39:18 There are a total of five separate motions.

39:21 I will read each of these recommendations

39:23 into the record and request board action.

39:27 A, adopt the resolution setting the required local effort,

39:32 local discretionary, and capital outlay millage rate

39:36 of 5.850 mills for 2011, I’m sorry, 2021 and 22.

39:45 The written resolution is incorporated

39:48 into the motion by reference.

39:50 What are the wishes of the board?

39:52 - Second.

39:53 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. Campbell.

39:55 Is there any discussion?

39:58 We need a voice vote, Ms. Escobar.

40:20 And the motion passes five, zero.

40:34 Ms. Lisinski.

40:35 - B, adopt the 2021/22 budget

40:39 in the following amounts.

40:41 Operating, 647,856,346.

40:50 Special revenue, 200,401,712.

40:59 Debt service, 38,034,923.

41:06 Capital outlay, 304,639,848.

41:15 Enterprise, 2,214,044.

41:22 Subtotal, 1,193,146,873.

41:32 Less transfers, 67,177,914.

41:41 Total, 1,125,968,959.

41:55 Internal service, 88,841,825.

42:04 - What are the wishes of the board?

42:06 - Move to approve. - Second.

42:07 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. Campbell.

42:09 Is there any discussion?

42:11 The motion passes five, zero.

42:34 Ms. Lisinski.

42:36 - C, authorize the superintendent

42:38 to adjust the adopted millage levy

42:41 and budget due to changes in the certified tax rule.

42:44 - What are the wishes of the board?

42:45 - Move to approve. - Second.

42:47 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. McDougal.

42:49 Any discussion?

42:51 Hearing none, please vote.

43:11 The motion passes five, zero.

43:28 Ms. Lisinski.

43:29 - D, authorize the superintendent

43:31 to forward the adopted millage levy resolution

43:35 to the Brevard County property appraiser

43:38 and tax collector no later than 30 days

43:40 following the adjournment of the value adjustment board.

43:45 - What are the wishes of the board?

43:46 - Move to approve. - Move to approve.

43:48 - Moved by, is that Ms. Dinkins?

43:50 - Second.

43:51 - Moved by Ms. McPherson, seconded by Ms. McPherson.

43:54 Any discussion?

43:57 Please vote.

44:10 (muffled speaking)

44:36 The motion passes five, zero.

44:39 Ms. Lisinski.

44:41 - D, authorize the superintendent

44:43 to forward the following to the designated state agency.

44:47 The adopted budget, millage levy resolution,

44:51 certified tax roll, rollback rate,

44:54 post millage and certified copies of the advertisements

44:59 for the proposed budget and millage rate

45:02 to the State Department of Education.

45:04 Two, the millage levy resolution,

45:08 certified tax roll, rolled back rate, proposed millage

45:13 and certified copies of the advertisement

45:15 for the proposed budget and millage rate

45:17 to the Department of Revenue.

45:19 - What are the wishes of the board?

45:20 - Move to approve.

45:21 - Second.

45:22 - Moved by Mr. McPherson, seconded by Ms. McDougall.

45:25 Is there any discussion?

45:27 Hearing none, please vote.

45:38 (muffled speaking)

45:50 The motion passes five, zero.

45:53 This hearing is now adjourned.

45:57 Thank you, Ms. Lisinski and team.

45:59 We appreciate you being here.

46:02 All right, Dr. Mullins, will you please let us know

46:04 about the administrative staff recommendations this evening?

46:07 - Yes, Ms. Belford and members of the board,

46:09 this evening you’ll be asked to approve

46:10 the reclassification and transfer of first,

46:14 Christina Donahue from the position of assistant principal

46:17 at Andrew Jackson Middle School

46:19 to the position of 10 month assistant principal

46:23 at O’Gally High School, effective September 10th.

46:26 Second, the reclassification of Alicia Lenderman

46:30 from the position of Title I teacher at Endeavor Elementary

46:34 to the position of interim assistant principal

46:36 at Endeavor Elementary, effective September 10th.

46:40 And third, the reclassification and transfer

46:43 of Mrs. Christina Harper from the position

46:47 of 10 month assistant principal at Endeavor Elementary

46:50 to the position of principal at Gemini Elementary School.

46:54 - One of the wishes of the board.

46:57 Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. Campbell.

46:59 Is there any discussion?

47:06 Please vote when you’re able.

47:24 Yeah, it just seems to be moving a little bit slow.

47:28 It’s all good, we’re getting there.

47:32 Got it, motion passes five zero.

47:37 - Mr. Belford, if I may just give my congratulations

47:40 to our three most recent administrative appointees,

47:44 Ms. Donahue, Ms. Lenderman, Ms. Carver.

47:47 Congratulations, I know you’re out there.

47:49 You wanted to make sure it was actually official.

47:51 So you are ready to start tomorrow.

47:54 Congratulations and thank you for your continued leadership

47:57 in our community and in our schools to care for

48:00 and help educate the children of Brevard County.

48:04 - Well said, Dr. Mullins, thank you.

48:07 - All right, folks, we are now at public comments.

48:10 We have 23 speakers signed up to speak this evening.

48:14 We have only one speaker on an agenda item.

48:18 It’s my recommendation that we hear only speakers

48:20 who’ve signed up to specifically address the business items

48:22 on the agenda during this portion of the meeting

48:24 and hear the remaining speakers following the conclusion

48:26 of board business.

48:27 Does anyone wish to make a motion?

48:29 - I’ll make a motion to support the people

48:33 who are on the agenda.

48:34 - And then, oh, I forgot.

48:36 I make a motion that we go ahead and support the people

48:40 who are speaking towards the agenda at this point

48:42 and move everyone else to the end of our meeting

48:45 before we close.

48:46 - Do I have a second?

48:50 So I have a motion by Ms. McDougall

48:52 and a second by Mr. Susan.

48:54 All in favor, please indicate by saying aye.

48:56 - Aye.

48:57 - Any opposed, same sign.

48:59 Motion passes by zero.

49:01 All right, so our first speaker is Matthew Dolly.

49:06 Matthew, if you would please approach

49:08 as I am reading the instructions.

49:10 Each speaker is limited to three minutes.

49:12 We have a clock in front of me

49:13 to help you keep track of your time.

49:14 When your time is over, you will be asked to stop

49:16 and allow the next speaker his or her turn.

49:18 Always keep in mind that reasonable decorum

49:20 is expected at all times and your statement

49:22 should be directed to the board chair.

49:23 The chair may interrupt, warn,

49:25 or terminate a participant statement when time is up.

49:27 It’s personally directed, abusive, obscene, or irrelevant.

49:30 Should an individual not observe proper etiquette,

49:32 the chairman may request the individual leave the meeting.

49:35 Let’s all encourage an environment appropriate

49:37 for our children who may be present

49:38 or are watching from home.

49:40 Mr. Dolly, give me one second.

49:44 When are you ready, sir?

49:45 - I don’t want to speak on a general item.

49:47 I just thought you had to put something down,

49:49 so I just picked a letter and wrote it down.

49:50 - Oh, okay.

49:51 - So I’d like to recycle back to being the 11th speaker.

49:54 I don’t want to cut line.

49:55 It’s kind of not fair.

49:56 - Okay, perfect.

49:57 Thank you, sir.

50:00 All right, that’s going to move us

50:01 into the consent agenda.

50:03 Dr. Mullins.

50:04 - There are 16 agenda items under this category.

50:07 - Thank you, Dr. Mullins.

50:08 Does any board member wish to pull any item

50:10 from the consent agenda?

50:15 Hearing none, I will entertain a motion

50:16 to accept the consent agenda as presented.

50:19 - Second.

50:20 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. McDougall.

50:22 Is there any discussion?

50:24 Hearing none, please vote.

50:30 (silence)

50:48 The motion passes five, zero.

50:52 Dr. Mullins, will you please let us know

50:54 about the items under action?

50:56 - There are two items under this category.

50:58 The first one is G34 on procurement solicitations.

51:03 - Do I have a motion?

51:04 - Move to approve.

51:05 - Second.

51:05 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. Campbell.

51:08 Any discussion?

51:11 Please vote.

51:17 All right, Ms. Escobar indicates we need a voice vote.

51:19 All board members in favor, please signify by saying aye.

51:22 - Aye.

51:22 - All opposed, same sign.

51:24 Motion passes five, zero.

51:26 Dr. Mullins.

51:27 - Item G35 is on department school initiated agreements.

51:31 - Do I hear a motion?

51:32 - Move to approve.

51:32 - Second.

51:33 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. McDougall.

51:37 Is there any discussion?

51:40 Hearing none, voice vote.

51:42 All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

51:44 - Aye.

51:45 - Any opposed, same sign.

51:47 Motion passes five, zero.

51:51 All right, we will move on to the information agenda,

51:53 which includes items for board review

51:55 and may be brought back for action at a subsequent meeting.

51:57 No action will be taken on these items tonight.

51:59 Dr. Mullins.

52:00 - There is one item under the information category.

52:03 - Does any member wish to discuss this information item?

52:08 All right, we will now hear the remaining speakers

52:10 who signed up to comment on non-agenda items.

52:12 Each speaker is limited to three minutes.

52:13 We have a clock in front of me

52:14 to help you keep track of your time.

52:16 When your time is over, you will be asked to stop

52:18 and allow the next speaker his or her turn.

52:20 We’ll hear from the speakers

52:21 in the order in which they signed up,

52:22 including those who may be waiting outside.

52:24 As stated earlier, reasonable decorum is expected

52:27 at all times and your statement

52:28 should be directed to the board chair.

52:30 Should audience participation interfere

52:31 with speakers being heard or hearing me,

52:33 I will be forced to clear the room.

52:35 When I call your name,

52:36 please line up along the east wall of the board room

52:38 to facilitate the smooth transition of speakers.

52:41 Let’s begin with our first three speakers.

52:45 Scott Seville, Matt Wojcickowski, James Ludwa.

52:49 I’m sorry, Jameson Ludwa.

52:57 Scott, whenever you’re ready, feel free to approach.

53:12 - Thank you.

53:13 It’s a pleasure getting to listen to this

53:16 on the agenda items that you have that are not COVID related.

53:22 You guys do a great job.

53:23 You really do, all of you.

53:26 I do wanna talk a little bit about the COVID.

53:29 Last time I was here,

53:31 I talked about how my sister had passed from it

53:35 and best friend in the world.

53:38 She was an awesome person.

53:39 Anyway, her daughter lives in San Francisco

53:41 and she kept telling me, you know,

53:44 we really are diligent about masks out here.

53:47 We’re really diligent about getting the COVID vaccines.

53:51 And I thought, well, I’m gonna just run,

53:53 because this is a real life scenario.

53:55 I’m gonna run the numbers and see what they look like.

53:58 San Francisco was 73% vaccinated, Brevard County is 55%.

54:04 I like San Francisco because its population is 875,000

54:11 and Brevard is 615,000.

54:13 So San Francisco County has 42% more people.

54:19 The number of cases in San Francisco County are 50,000.

54:23 This was as of about a week ago.

54:25 Anybody can look this up.

54:27 In Brevard County was 72,000.

54:30 So San Francisco, although it has a 42% higher population,

54:35 they have 31% less or 22,000 less cases.

54:41 And then I thought, well, what are the deaths?

54:44 The deaths in San Francisco so far have been 589.

54:48 In Brevard County, 914.

54:51 So 36% less.

54:56 I think that this is a great comparison

55:00 because they are 42% larger than us,

55:05 yet they are between 30% cases less and 36% deaths less.

55:12 That’s another 300 deaths that, you know,

55:16 maybe we could have done something about.

55:21 So I just think this is a good real life explanation

55:26 and let’s continue to save lives.

55:28 And I applaud the efforts of everyone here

55:31 and understand that even the people on opposing sides

55:35 care about their children

55:37 and care about their family members.

55:40 And so let’s save some lives.

55:43 - Thank you, Scott.

55:47 Matt.

55:50 - Well, thank you for your service.

55:51 I do appreciate it.

55:53 My name is Matt Wojciechowski, registered publican.

55:57 I have a doctorate in engineering

56:01 and I’m a registered professional engineer

56:02 in three states.

56:04 That makes me an expert witness in the court.

56:07 - Hey Matt, can you just move that mic

56:08 a little bit closer to you?

56:10 I’m sorry.

56:11 Yeah, perfect. - Will that work?

56:12 - Yes, thank you.

56:13 - Okay, I’m a registered professional engineer

56:15 in three states, which makes me a person

56:18 that can testify in a court of law as an expert.

56:21 And myself and my fellow professional engineers

56:23 take that very seriously.

56:27 It’s a great burden to do that and it’s difficult.

56:31 I have 15 issued utility patents.

56:34 These are real inventions.

56:37 They are not the same patents that you hear about

56:39 on the home shopping network.

56:42 I’ve also worked in filtration for a number of years

56:46 and I wanna talk to you about filters.

56:48 First of all, there is a screen filter.

56:50 This is the kind of filter that you use in your screen door

56:52 and it allows things to be stopped

56:55 that are bigger than the mesh and things to go through

56:58 that are smaller than the mesh.

57:00 Another type of filter is a depth filter.

57:02 They use a torturous path to trap particles

57:05 and they rely on thickness of material.

57:15 These are the type of filters that you use in your car,

57:19 in your furnace and COVID masks.

57:22 To give you an example, a COVID mask rating

57:26 is approximately 0.1 microns.

57:29 That’s one 10th of a millionth of a meter.

57:34 Particles that it trapped or the COVID virus

57:36 is approximately 0.125 microns,

57:40 which is about 25% larger than a torturous path

57:43 of the filter that you have on right now.

57:49 So you are protected by these type of masks

57:53 in your house, in your car and walking around.

57:58 As far as the school system precedent

58:00 goes for protecting the unprotected,

58:01 I’ll cite an example from my high school days.

58:05 Initially, we had smoking lounges in our high school.

58:08 When the relationship of cancer to smoking was developed,

58:12 the faculty of that high school

58:16 took out the smoking lounges,

58:18 didn’t want the kids to smoke anymore.

58:19 So they were protecting the unprotected.

58:22 They believed it was their duty and acted positively.

58:26 Part of the sworn responsibility you have

58:28 are to protect our children.

58:30 I’d like you to do that.

58:33 Any questions?

58:35 - Thank you, Matt.

58:36 We appreciate you joining us.

58:38 As Jamison is approaching, the next three speakers after

58:42 will be Reese Ledwa, Cheryl Wojciechowski and Katie Delaney.

58:47 - Hi, my name is Jamison.

58:49 I’m in second grade.

58:50 I think masks are important.

58:52 Last time when only one out of four people were for masks,

58:55 I was very unhappy.

58:57 And now three people voted for masks.

58:59 I would like to make the votes five to zero for masks.

59:02 I’d like everybody to please listen to the mask rule

59:05 and wear a mask directly when inside.

59:08 I would feel much safer if I saw everyone listening

59:11 to the teacher from wearing their mask.

59:13 Thank you for those of you who voted for masks

59:15 for trying to keep us safe and healthy.

59:21 - Thank you, Jamison.

59:24 Reese.

59:29 - Hi, my name is Reese.

59:31 I’m nine years old in the fourth grade

59:32 in Brevard Public Schools.

59:34 I wanted to say thank you for making us safe,

59:37 for giving us masks back to us.

59:39 Everyone is very stressed about everything

59:41 about the masking in Brevard Public Schools.

59:43 I think masks should be continued.

59:46 This virus creates things that should not be

59:48 in our everyday lives.

59:50 Infections are rising every day

59:51 and that is because everyone isn’t wearing masks.

59:55 I was really worried about it

59:56 when everyone wasn’t wearing masks,

59:58 but now I feel much safer with everyone wearing masks.

1:00:03 The Delta variant is very dangerous

1:00:05 and two times more contagious.

1:00:07 There are over 3 million cases in Florida

1:00:09 and many have been children.

1:00:11 The schools are full of children that could get infected

1:00:13 and that can have serious consequences.

1:00:16 Masks are vital to everyone’s health.

1:00:19 If we wear them, then this COVID pandemic will cease.

1:00:22 This pandemic is very dangerous,

1:00:24 but if we all work together, wear masks,

1:00:27 social distance and sanitize,

1:00:29 then this pandemic can stop

1:00:30 and everyone can rejoice with friends and family.

1:00:33 Thank you for your time.

1:00:35 - Thank you, Reese.

1:00:37 Cheryl.

1:00:41 - Hi, my name is Dr. Cheryl Wojcicki.

1:00:43 I’m mom of two kids who attend school in Brevard County.

1:00:47 Members of the school board,

1:00:48 thank you for reinstating masks.

1:00:50 I know it was a difficult decision.

1:00:53 For some board members,

1:00:53 I know it wasn’t your initial choice,

1:00:55 but when it happened, you respected it

1:00:57 and complied with the regulation.

1:00:59 Thank you for that.

1:01:00 I think this is a wonderful example for our children.

1:01:03 I can tell you now that I have a little boy

1:01:04 and a little girl who are much less afraid to go to school.

1:01:07 I’m still nervous sending them, of course,

1:01:09 and I know the homeschool option is there,

1:01:12 but my two kids need to be with their friends and teachers.

1:01:14 They learn better that way,

1:01:15 and now it’s much less of a risk to their health.

1:01:19 For the past 15 years, under four presidents,

1:01:22 I’ve worked as a scientist for the State Department

1:01:24 and the United States Agency for International Development.

1:01:27 Part of my job, I negotiate with Arab and Israeli scientists

1:01:31 and help them work together

1:01:32 to comply with US regulations, international research

1:01:34 regulations.

1:01:36 Unfortunately, the attentions that I’ve experienced

1:01:38 in this room before and after these meetings

1:01:41 are much more stressful than any interaction I’ve ever felt

1:01:43 between Arab and Israeli scientists.

1:01:46 I myself have let this tension get under my skin,

1:01:49 and I apologize for that.

1:01:51 I have a proposition.

1:01:53 Members of the school board,

1:01:54 I don’t think you want to see this tension

1:01:56 between your constituents.

1:01:58 I’d like to extend an invitation to you

1:02:01 and your constituents to write FFSS.Bravard@gmail.com.

1:02:07 I would like to have a calm, short virtual conversation

1:02:11 to see if we can agree on ground rules

1:02:13 and establish a respectable decorum from here on out.

1:02:17 We won’t agree on some things,

1:02:19 but I know that we all love our kids

1:02:22 and want to show them the best example

1:02:24 of how adults behave when they disagree.

1:02:28 With good intentions only, please, FFSS.Bravard@gmail.com.

1:02:33 Thank you for your time and your service.

1:02:35 - Thank you.

1:02:37 As Katie is approaching, our next three speakers

1:02:39 will be Chris Paganoni, Danielle McDonough, and Joey Oliva.

1:02:47 Katie.

1:02:49 - Members of the board, your COVID mitigations

1:02:52 are failing students of Brevard County.

1:02:54 I am speaking tonight for a local healthcare worker

1:02:58 that cannot be here today.

1:03:01 She has done all the things you’ve asked of her.

1:03:03 Her daughter is vaccinated.

1:03:05 She wore a mask even before, I’m sorry,

1:03:09 even when it wasn’t illegally being mandated.

1:03:13 Yet, she was forced to quarantine,

1:03:17 even though she was well past the threshold

1:03:21 of the two-week policy.

1:03:23 During that time, since there was no e-learning

1:03:29 and no work was sent home,

1:03:33 her straight A student got marked

1:03:34 with multiple zeros for participation grades

1:03:37 while under a forced quarantine, resulting in two Fs.

1:03:42 Again, this child is vaccinated and she wore a mask.

1:03:46 Your policy and failure to implement or maintain it

1:03:51 has yet again failed another child.

1:03:54 You all should be ashamed.

1:03:57 The mother is still fighting with the school

1:03:59 to make it right.

1:04:02 That brings me to my next topic, the achievement gap.

1:04:06 Here we are on month two and we still have members

1:04:09 of the board focusing more on COVID mitigations

1:04:12 that don’t work instead of their bigger failure,

1:04:17 the widening achievement gap.

1:04:19 I have sent many of you multiple emails, phone calls,

1:04:23 voicemails about the achievement gap,

1:04:27 never getting a response.

1:04:29 Is it that you don’t care?

1:04:34 If you did, you would return an email or you would make some

1:04:42 kind of effort outside of

1:04:44 claiming that it’s the fault of teachers unknown bias.

1:04:58 Now I would like to put on public record that our COVID numbers

1:05:03 in the schools have been

1:05:04 continuously going down according to your dashboard over the

1:05:08 past three weeks.

1:05:09 And I want to point out that that was prior to the mask mandate

1:05:13 coming into effect, which

1:05:14 was just Tuesday.

1:05:18 In conclusion, many times in the student code of conduct that is

1:05:22 on tonight’s agenda, it

1:05:24 speaks of respect for one another, it speaks of privacy, anti-bullying,

1:05:28 and so on and so

1:05:29 forth.

1:05:31 Yet when multiple reports of students being refused entry to the

1:05:35 school, bullying by administration,

1:05:37 and food being refused, BPS did not stand by their students.

1:05:41 Instead, they insinuated that they were lying.

1:05:47 You three should be ashamed.

1:05:48 Katie, have a great day.

1:05:54 Chris?

1:05:55 Hi there, my name is Christopher Paganoni.

1:06:01 I am actually here to talk about data and information.

1:06:07 One of the things that I’ve had a problem with is getting actual

1:06:10 data from the school

1:06:11 board and from the county regarding the number of cases per

1:06:15 school.

1:06:16 And I keep hearing the word PII being used.

1:06:20 I am a professional certified systems engineer.

1:06:25 I hold the CISSP.

1:06:26 My number is 579277.

1:06:29 That makes me an expert witness in information protection.

1:06:33 So, let’s talk about the PII issue.

1:06:38 Under the NIST SP800-122, that is the actual document number.

1:06:45 The name is for the guide for protection of PII.

1:06:49 It clearly delineates that there’s only two ways to get to

1:06:53 identifying a student or a

1:06:55 person by information.

1:06:58 Those two ways are either by direct method or through indirect.

1:07:03 Releasing according to the Department of Education’s Student

1:07:07 Privacy Policy Office on their memo

1:07:09 March 2020, they were asked directly, “Can you release the

1:07:13 number of cases per school?”

1:07:15 And they said, “Generally, yes.

1:07:17 It is not an issue of PII,” according to them.

1:07:20 It’s clearly delineated that a reasonable person, if they cannot

1:07:25 arrive at the identity

1:07:27 of the individual, then you have no PII condition.

1:07:32 PII, by definition, is when its distinguishing identity is your

1:07:36 name, social security number,

1:07:38 date of birth, place of birth, your parents’ identification.

1:07:42 Indirect or linkable information is known for weight, sex, age,

1:07:48 very specific information.

1:07:50 The key here is that when you say, “I had a student out of

1:07:54 school for COVID,” in this

1:07:55 specific school, if you’re not releasing how many other students

1:07:59 are out that day for other

1:08:01 causes, you have nothing to go with.

1:08:04 There is no PII there.

1:08:06 It would not hold up in a court of law.

1:08:10 And that is my professional opinion.

1:08:11 So I would like to ask the Board to please give us the PII

1:08:17 numbers by day or as often

1:08:19 as you report them.

1:08:20 Like day, every three days, every five days, or every seven days,

1:08:24 but it can be by school

1:08:26 because that tells us what’s happening in the school and it also

1:08:29 will help you guys

1:08:29 see specifically if you have a school that’s going out of

1:08:33 control, you can tactically affect

1:08:36 it.

1:08:37 Instead of sitting here in blanket and saying, “We’ve got 500

1:08:40 students across the county

1:08:40 that are sick,” I’d like to know if 300 of those students were

1:08:45 in one school or they

1:08:46 spread in large numbers, where you have other schools that are

1:08:50 at zero.

1:08:51 You can also parse this information from how many students you’re

1:08:55 quarantining, so not

1:08:56 really getting anything from your PII.

1:08:59 Thank you very much.

1:09:00 Thank you.

1:09:01 Danielle?

1:09:02 Hi there.

1:09:03 I’m Danielle McDonough, Dr. McDonough.

1:09:04 I’m a nurse practitioner.

1:09:05 As you guys know, you’ve heard me speak before, I want to say

1:09:12 thank you for bringing masks

1:09:15 back into the school.

1:09:17 My children all say thank you.

1:09:20 I’d like to just say that I think it’s really evident in this

1:09:23 week’s dashboard by the fact

1:09:25 that kids started wearing masks in school immediately after the

1:09:29 mandate was put into

1:09:30 effect.

1:09:31 My daughter’s class of 24 students in fifth grade at Meadow Lane,

1:09:36 an interior classroom,

1:09:37 had 100% compliance.

1:09:40 Her teacher was already wearing a mask.

1:09:43 Unfortunately, students had already been in the classroom with

1:09:46 COVID and a large number

1:09:48 of kids ended up quarantined by the end of the week, but

1:09:51 fortunately they’re all going

1:09:53 back to school now.

1:09:55 But I think looking at the dashboard of a Monday a week prior, I

1:09:58 think there was over

1:10:00 500 cases compared to this week where there was just a little

1:10:05 more over 100 cases, I think

1:10:07 it’s really evident that masks work.

1:10:12 We can’t continue to have this battle every two weeks.

1:10:15 We can’t continue to have this battle every month.

1:10:18 You guys teach math and you teach science.

1:10:24 You teach the kids statistics in high school.

1:10:28 If you’re going to teach the subjects, then we should be

1:10:31 teaching the kids that we understand

1:10:34 how to utilize this information.

1:10:36 We should follow the science and we should follow the math.

1:10:40 It’s real data, it’s not made up.

1:10:44 The people in the hospital are not imaginary, they’re real, they’re

1:10:48 human beings.

1:10:49 They’re related to somebody who lives in our community.

1:10:52 When somebody says that their family member died, we should have

1:10:56 empathy for that.

1:10:57 We shouldn’t say people die.

1:11:00 Sadly, that’s what I’m hearing in our community and it needs to

1:11:04 end.

1:11:05 We need to set an example as a community and say that we

1:11:08 understand the science, we’re

1:11:09 going to follow the science, and we’re going to wear masks in

1:11:12 school where kids aren’t

1:11:13 vaccinated.

1:11:15 When you want to lift the mask mandate, my 11-year-old child’s

1:11:18 not old enough for a vaccine,

1:11:20 but we vaccinate against chickenpox because chickenpox causes a

1:11:25 loss of learning days.

1:11:27 Why would we not wear a mask to protect against loss of learning

1:11:30 days?

1:11:31 We need to keep the kids in school and we need to keep them

1:11:35 healthy and safe.

1:11:36 We need to make a plan going forward.

1:11:39 At what point is it safe to remove the mask mandate?

1:11:43 At what point would you have to reinstate the mask mandate?

1:11:47 At what point is the vaccination level in the community

1:11:51 sufficient enough?

1:11:52 That is a plan that the board should be working on going forward

1:11:55 so we don’t have to come

1:11:57 back to this conversation at every meeting.

1:12:00 I thank you for your time.

1:12:01 I thank you for everything you’re doing.

1:12:02 Have a good night.

1:12:03 Thanks, Danielle.

1:12:04 As Joey is approaching, our next three speakers will be Sarah

1:12:09 Schiavaro, Matthew Dolly, and

1:12:12 then Heather Peterson.

1:12:13 Joey?

1:12:14 First, I want to say thank you to the two board members who had

1:12:17 the courage to vote

1:12:18 no on the mask mandate.

1:12:20 We will not forget, should you decide to run for re-election, at

1:12:23 the emergency meeting,

1:12:24 one of the board members volunteered her political party

1:12:27 affiliation as Democrat and then stated

1:12:29 that her decision was not political, but the only explanation I

1:12:32 could come up with as to

1:12:33 why you would vote for a mandate when the facts and data

1:12:36 contradict that decision would

1:12:37 be that it’s political.

1:12:38 So when I look to political reasons as to why somebody would

1:12:41 make a decision to mask

1:12:42 an innocent child and put that unnecessary responsibility and

1:12:46 burden onto them, I came

1:12:47 across a study at Dartmouth University that determined that the

1:12:50 liberal media negatively

1:12:51 skewed over 90% of their stories to exaggerate the fear of the

1:12:55 COVID pandemic, regardless

1:12:57 of what the data and the science were saying at the time.

1:12:59 And in the words of the CNN producer caught on hidden tape by

1:13:04 Project Veritas, fear sells.

1:13:06 Then I found a Gallup survey that interviewed Democrats and

1:13:08 Republicans to determine their

1:13:09 understanding of the harms of COVID.

1:13:11 The data shows that chances of being hospitalized as you get COVID

1:13:14 is somewhere between 1 to

1:13:16 5%, which means that one in five people out of 100 who get COVID

1:13:21 could end up in the hospital.

1:13:23 But 41% of Democrats surveyed believe that 50%, that’s one out

1:13:27 of every two people who

1:13:28 get COVID go to the hospital, and another 28% of Democrats

1:13:31 believe that 20 to 49% of

1:13:33 people who get COVID will be in the hospital.

1:13:35 So almost 70% of Democrats surveyed believe that one out of

1:13:39 every five people who get

1:13:40 COVID end up in the hospital.

1:13:42 The next study was my absolute favorite.

1:13:44 It found that white liberals are more prone to mental health

1:13:47 disorders than individuals

1:13:48 who identify as conservatives or moderate.

1:13:50 62% of white who classify themselves as very liberal or liberal

1:13:55 have been told by a doctor

1:13:56 they have a mental health condition as compared to only 26% of

1:14:00 conservatives.

1:14:01 They found that that reasoning behind this was that the constant

1:14:05 misinformation from

1:14:06 liberal media, which they referred to as panic porn, creates unwarranted

1:14:11 fear and stress.

1:14:12 So if you’re angry like I am and confused as to why we cannot

1:14:15 get through to certain

1:14:17 board members using facts, scientific data, and critical

1:14:20 thinking, the data shows there’s

1:14:22 a high possibility you are trying to reason with a highly misinformed

1:14:25 individual who might

1:14:26 have a mental disorder who cannot make rational decisions

1:14:29 because they are driven by one thing

1:14:30 and that is fear.

1:14:34 Which explains why one of our board members sat in a plastic box

1:14:38 for almost a year last

1:14:39 year and while they were six feet apart from each other probably

1:14:42 vaccinated more mass the

1:14:43 entire time.

1:14:45 So the problem that we really have here is a virus of the mind,

1:14:47 and I have a suggestion

1:14:49 to fix this problem, which is to the one board member who’s so

1:14:52 concerned about racial equity

1:14:53 and inclusion as I stare up at a board with zero racial

1:14:56 diversity, I think it’s time for

1:14:57 her to lead by example, acknowledge her white privilege, put her

1:15:00 money where her mouth is,

1:15:01 and step down as a board member to allow her position to be

1:15:04 filled by a person of color.

1:15:06 We wouldn’t want any racist hypocrites on the board now, would

1:15:09 we?

1:15:09 And since I still have six seconds, all three of my kids got COVID,

1:15:12 they had a fever for

1:15:13 her day and cough like three times.

1:15:23 Sarah, I’m Sarah, I’m a Brevard County resident, taxpayer,

1:15:31 registered voter, stakeholder, and

1:15:35 I’m a mom of two children in BPS.

1:15:38 The COVID-19 BPS dashboard shows numbers going down and that is

1:15:41 a wonderful thing.

1:15:43 I don’t want anyone to get sick and I’ve helped people get

1:15:46 connected with medical professionals

1:15:48 and treatments that worked well, incredibly well.

1:15:51 My family and I continue to pray for those who are sick to get

1:15:54 well sick.

1:15:54 Unfortunately, this illegal mask mandate isn’t about science,

1:15:57 health, or safety, but about

1:15:59 money, power, and control.

1:16:01 I based that statement on the panel of one-sided experts you

1:16:04 brought in saying that no matter

1:16:05 if there’s a mask mandate in place or not, there’s going to be

1:16:09 community spread.

1:16:10 You didn’t listen to them by not keeping mask wearing a parental

1:16:14 choice.

1:16:15 This is a passionate issue, but the focus needs to be getting

1:16:19 back to education.

1:16:20 How we do that is keeping masks a parental choice.

1:16:23 You didn’t get voted in based on emotion, but to make choices

1:16:26 based on fact and the

1:16:28 law.

1:16:29 I’m a law abiding citizen.

1:16:30 This is a legal issue.

1:16:32 You created a big legal mess for the BPS system instead of

1:16:35 allowing the judicial system to

1:16:37 play out and being guided by the laws you are held to.

1:16:40 Since three board members moved forward with this unprecedented,

1:16:45 unlawful vote to enact

1:16:46 an illegal mandate for the BPS district, then those members who

1:16:49 supported this deliberate

1:16:51 attack against a functioning and reputable school system must be

1:16:54 held accountable.

1:16:55 I, as well as many others, feel you have broken your corporate

1:16:59 fiduciary responsibility that

1:17:01 undermines the efficacy of the entire school system.

1:17:04 Three board members chose to put our children in this illegal

1:17:08 and stable situation, not

1:17:09 the parents.

1:17:10 This illegal and stable situation is taking a mental health toll

1:17:14 on our children and families

1:17:15 with four weeks into the school year, now facing difficult

1:17:18 choices and leaving hundreds

1:17:19 of families scrambling, confused, and illegal back and forth

1:17:23 with our children in the middle

1:17:25 and taking the brunt of it.

1:17:27 Those on the board who choose to vote and supported a board-wide

1:17:31 vote on an illegal

1:17:32 mask mandate have created an environment with this that

1:17:35 questions your ability to act independently

1:17:37 as a board member, and I request you do the right thing and undo

1:17:40 this policy immediately.

1:17:42 I am not challenging your authority to vote.

1:17:44 I have lost faith in your ability to make a lawful and

1:17:48 independent decision.

1:17:50 The illegality of enacting this policy and the downfall of it

1:17:53 was well laid out by your

1:17:54 vice chair.

1:17:56 Independently and as a board, you need to let your yes be yes

1:17:59 and your no be no.

1:18:00 If you are unable to make a decision and stick with it, it is feckless

1:18:03 and untrustworthy

1:18:04 leadership.

1:18:05 Thank you.

1:18:07 Matthew Dolly.

1:18:10 Hello, my name is Matthew.

1:18:18 Thank you for having me, village idiot.

1:18:22 So the first thing I want to talk about to the public, if you’re

1:18:25 a member of the public

1:18:26 and you engage and act or believe in using any kind of

1:18:30 intimidation, whether it be through

1:18:32 verbal or physical actions or destruction of property, I’m going

1:18:37 to say this publicly

1:18:38 now.

1:18:39 You are not on my side.

1:18:40 I do not care what political alignment you have.

1:18:43 I do not agree with such actions and I never will stand beside

1:18:47 you or behind you with that

1:18:49 kind of demeanor.

1:18:51 Furthermore, to speak to the public from some of the stuff I’ve

1:18:53 heard tonight, I might agree

1:18:55 with some discontent or some feelings, the five, six people that

1:19:01 sit in front of you

1:19:02 at this school board are not mentally ill.

1:19:04 As a matter of fact, they are highly intelligent and if you

1:19:07 think of them as mentally ill,

1:19:09 you’re going to lose.

1:19:11 These are very smart people that sit in front of you.

1:19:13 That being said, the choice that they made to mandate the mask

1:19:18 was 100% a political choice.

1:19:20 They were smart enough to wait until a judge’s decision was made

1:19:23 that made the legality of

1:19:24 this gray so they could get their foot in the door and wait.

1:19:28 They are not stupid, they are smart.

1:19:30 That being said, I am disappointed in the board to allow

1:19:35 politics to come involved into

1:19:37 a decision like this.

1:19:39 I have spoken in front of you a handful of times and every time

1:19:43 I have darned or begged

1:19:44 of you, I’ve even yelled at the crowd for you.

1:19:48 I know that some of the people here do not behave right, but

1:19:51 that being said, the people

1:19:52 here that don’t behave right, it reflects the leadership in this

1:19:56 room.

1:19:56 If you do not like how we act, display better leadership, okay?

1:20:01 This was not about health, it was not about safety because there’s

1:20:04 so many numbers that

1:20:05 go both ways.

1:20:06 This was a political decision.

1:20:08 I am not dumb, I may not be as highly intelligent as you, but I

1:20:12 am not dumb, so don’t insult

1:20:14 my intelligence and I won’t insult yours.

1:20:17 That being said, you made a political decision that threw a rift

1:20:20 through this community.

1:20:22 You got people out in the parking lot screaming at each other

1:20:25 and it’s because of you five.

1:20:26 You did this.

1:20:27 And I’m going to end with saying this, as one of you may know

1:20:30 because I believe you’re

1:20:31 a history teacher, the elected bodies historically that side

1:20:39 with compulsion are evil.

1:20:42 I’m not saying you’re evil, but the decisions are evil.

1:20:46 It’s not you that I fear, it is the medical doctor that stands

1:20:50 up here in his public comments

1:20:52 and tells people that unmasked and unvaccinated children are a

1:20:56 risk.

1:20:57 That is asinine.

1:20:58 To the children that are here with their parents, you got a good

1:21:02 mom.

1:21:03 I don’t agree with what she said, you got a good mom.

1:21:06 You need to listen to her, you need to follow her example.

1:21:09 But if you see my children in school without wearing a mask,

1:21:12 they’re not a danger.

1:21:13 They’re healthy because I’m smart enough to make sure that my

1:21:16 kids don’t put other people

1:21:18 at risk.

1:21:19 Heather Peterson and then after Heather, we have Tracy Kefiro,

1:21:28 Jabari Hosey and then Cheyenne

1:21:31 Dryden.

1:21:32 And then we may take a break.

1:21:37 We’ll see.

1:21:38 My name is Heather Peterson.

1:21:39 My husband and I are residents of Brevard County for eight years

1:21:43 now.

1:21:44 We have three children in the BPS system, 15, 13 and eight years

1:21:48 old.

1:21:48 I am here today to put you on notice that continued illegal

1:21:52 behavior of this school

1:21:54 board will stop.

1:21:56 You will be replaced and none of us will stop until it’s

1:21:59 accomplished.

1:22:00 The sole purpose of your job is to ensure a quality education

1:22:05 for my children and you’re

1:22:07 failing on a massive scale.

1:22:09 You work for me.

1:22:11 You do not get to decide anything on behalf of my children in

1:22:16 any other capacity other

1:22:18 than education.

1:22:21 The last school board meeting you called, I had been admitted to

1:22:25 the hospital with code

1:22:26 and pneumonia because I have asthma.

1:22:29 And instead of concentrating on healing and getting home to my

1:22:34 family, I was forced to

1:22:35 deal with the illegal decisions of this tyrannical school board

1:22:39 who thought that they had the

1:22:41 right to strip me from my parental rights to make decisions for

1:22:45 my children.

1:22:46 Thank goodness I had the support of the Moms for Liberty to find

1:22:49 the exemptions that I

1:22:50 needed for my children.

1:22:53 You made the decision, despite the fact that there has yet one

1:22:58 study to prove that masks

1:23:01 work.

1:23:02 The CDC’s own website studies cite that it is inconclusive.

1:23:10 How disgusting that your own lawyer holds you, it’s illegal to

1:23:15 vote yes, and yet you

1:23:17 did it anyway.

1:23:19 You have allowed politics to severely cloud your judgment and

1:23:23 not do what’s best for our

1:23:24 children’s education.

1:23:26 You have woken something in this community.

1:23:30 It’s not going away.

1:23:32 We will not forget and we will not stop fighting for our rights

1:23:36 and liberties.

1:23:38 I’ve always taught my children that their choices have

1:23:42 consequences, and you ladies,

1:23:44 they’re coming.

1:23:45 All right, Tracey.

1:24:14 Hi, my name is Jabari Hosey, I’m speaking in regards to the

1:24:26 action that took place with

1:24:32 the emergency meeting.

1:24:33 I want to thank the three school board members directly for

1:24:37 taking the necessary action and

1:24:39 protecting our kids during this pandemic with universal masking

1:24:43 in schools.

1:24:44 That was a courageous move that has now potentially has saved

1:24:48 lives.

1:24:49 I also want to thank the school board member, though she did not

1:24:52 support the motion but

1:24:53 complied with it immediately and gave us an example to follow,

1:24:56 but not shouting or complaining

1:24:58 about a new rule in place.

1:25:00 I also want to thank the superintendent for taking necessary

1:25:03 action, responding to disinformation

1:25:05 and allowing universal masking to happen as efficiently and

1:25:09 effectively as possible.

1:25:11 The three of you didn’t fold to political persuasion or fear,

1:25:14 but instead followed the

1:25:15 science and the data to do what is best, and that leaves me with

1:25:19 one last member who chose

1:25:20 fiction over fact, politics over people, pandering over

1:25:27 protection.

1:25:28 This individual aligns himself with another political figure who

1:25:31 doesn’t live in his district.

1:25:34 That political figure does not, you do not live in that

1:25:37 political figure’s district.

1:25:38 His career is now muddied with hypocrisy and hesitancy, lies and

1:25:43 this truth.

1:25:45 You are supposed to represent me, work with students and parents

1:25:48 that live in your district,

1:25:50 but clearly we don’t matter.

1:25:53 I wish you well as you travel down your political downward

1:25:56 spiral, and I thank the majority

1:25:58 of the board for taking the necessary action to protect our

1:26:02 children and the 1400 plus

1:26:04 members of families for safe schools also who are parents,

1:26:07 grandparents, and many members

1:26:09 of the community as we continue to grow as a group.

1:26:11 Also, thank you.

1:26:13 Appreciate it.

1:26:14 Thank you, Jabari.

1:26:17 I had a request for a recess from board members.

1:26:21 We have 12, huh?

1:26:25 Yeah, we can take, we have Cheyenne Dryden still in here.

1:26:29 Cheyenne, if you would like to approach and then we’ll take a

1:26:31 break after Cheyenne and

1:26:32 then finish out our public comment, okay?

1:26:43 They don’t have to be quiet.

1:26:44 They can talk.

1:26:45 Please set people in.

1:26:46 I actually emailed all five board members about Tuesday.

1:27:02 I picked him up from school.

1:27:05 He had a [inaudible] that happens at 10 o’clock.

1:27:10 And then he went to class and sent it into his math.

1:27:16 Okay.

1:27:17 Say it.

1:27:18 Peace, mommy.

1:27:19 Good job.

1:27:20 I never see, I received an auto response from Ms. Bielford, but

1:27:26 that’s it.

1:27:28 Nobody wants to get back to why kindergarteners, who did this

1:27:34 all day?

1:27:35 That’s what they’re doing all day.

1:27:36 His whole class all day is pick up your mask, oh, fix your mask,

1:27:43 fix your mask.

1:27:45 No more.

1:27:46 There’s a high schooler who’s scared to take her mask off

1:27:50 because she’s going to get bullied

1:27:52 by her teachers, teachers, not students, adult bullying 15 year

1:27:59 olds.

1:28:00 It’s not okay.

1:28:02 They’re not mask police.

1:28:05 They’re underpaid, we’re understaffed, and you guys want them to

1:28:09 do more constantly.

1:28:11 You don’t respect your teachers that you’re saying you’re doing

1:28:15 it for.

1:28:15 You care about the students.

1:28:16 Why aren’t you guys in the schools more, do more for the school,

1:28:22 provide them with proper

1:28:24 PPE if that’s what you want them to have.

1:28:29 His education’s being disrupted.

1:28:31 My high schooler missed 17 days of school.

1:28:33 She went to eight days this year.

1:28:35 I’m going to have to leave because of the pandemic, but that’s

1:28:42 my point, okay?

1:28:44 Thank you, Cheyenne.

1:28:45 All right, board members, we’re going to take a brief recess,

1:28:50 and then we will come back

1:28:52 and finish out our public comment, okay?

1:29:03 Thank you.

1:41:38 All right, we are back in session.

1:41:41 We’ll finish up the remainder of our public speakers.

1:41:43 I just want to remind our audience that the speaker’s time is

1:41:46 the speaker’s time.

1:41:48 We shouldn’t be hearing from the audience during the speaker’s

1:41:51 time in support or against,

1:41:52 nor should we be hearing after the speaker is finished so that

1:41:55 the next person can hear

1:41:57 what’s going on and get to the mic, okay?

1:42:00 Our next three speakers are going to be Ron McClellan, Julia

1:42:08 Anton and Josana Oakwood.

1:42:23 Thank you.

1:42:37 I apologize for not being able to be here during the emergency

1:42:39 meeting.

1:42:40 Unfortunately, the coronavirus made two appearances at my house.

1:42:42 So I appreciate the vote.

1:42:44 I appreciate the stress that you are under.

1:42:46 As I was listening, I heard a familiar term.

1:42:48 Critical race theory.

1:42:52 A representative of those whose parents or maybe even their

1:42:55 grandparents didn’t say hello

1:42:57 the same way that you and I do.

1:43:00 They might say hola.

1:43:01 They might say bonjour.

1:43:02 They might say konichiwa.

1:43:03 They might say gin dobre or maybe even God forbid, as-salamu alaykum.

1:43:11 You see, while we’re here in America, we have liberties.

1:43:18 There’s a collection of individuals that have dedicated

1:43:21 themselves to liberty.

1:43:23 But we also have liberty to be free from xenophobia, free from

1:43:28 sexism, discrimination.

1:43:31 So I want to be unambiguously clear that critical race theory

1:43:36 should not be taught in school

1:43:39 because it isn’t.

1:43:41 It should remain in graduate level schools where it is.

1:43:45 I want to encourage the board to follow Governor DeSantis’s

1:43:51 order.

1:43:52 Teach fair, unbiased history.

1:43:54 So in other words, if you’re going to teach it, teach it all.

1:43:58 Teach why we had to have a 13th and 14th amendment.

1:44:02 Teach why we had to have a constitutional amendment just to give

1:44:05 women the right to vote.

1:44:07 Teach why we just got the Equal Rights Amendment ratified last

1:44:13 year.

1:44:14 If you’re going to teach it, teach it all.

1:44:17 Teach why after Pearl Harbor, we rounded up Japanese Americans

1:44:23 and put them in internment camps.

1:44:25 One of those families had the last name Takai.

1:44:27 They had a son named George from right north from Star Trek.

1:44:31 Yo, we locked up Sulu.

1:44:34 I mean, Sulu.

1:44:36 But if you notice, I said we because I share that history too.

1:44:43 As Americans, as board members, we must reconcile our past, the

1:44:49 dark days of our past, to the brighter days that are ahead.

1:44:54 I look forward to engaging with you and speaking with you in the

1:44:57 weeks ahead.

1:44:58 Matter of fact, I’m going to be here so much, you’re going to

1:45:01 think I’m a piece of furniture.

1:45:03 And with that, I yield back.

1:45:05 Thank you, Madam Chair.

1:45:06 Thank you, Ron. Have a great night.

1:45:08 Julia.

1:45:13 I am reading from the Parents Bill of Rights.

1:45:20 And it says, infringement of parental rights, the state, any of

1:45:26 its political subdivisions or any governmental entity or any

1:45:31 other institution may not infringe on the fundamental rights of

1:45:36 a parent to direct the upbringing, education, health care, and

1:45:40 mental health of his or her minor child.

1:45:42 It doesn’t stop there.

1:45:47 It also says, I mean, without demonstrating that such action is

1:45:53 reasonable and necessary to achieve a compelling state interest.

1:45:59 And that such action is narrowly tailored and is not otherwise

1:46:05 served by a less restrictive means.

1:46:09 It didn’t stop before the word unless.

1:46:13 It continued with the word unless.

1:46:17 And it established that if there is a compelling state interest

1:46:22 that you can show, then you have the right to make decisions.

1:46:29 And for the life of me, I cannot figure out any reason why

1:46:34 anyone with integrity would have read that.

1:46:39 And heard the judge rule on it and rule on it again.

1:46:45 And stand here and quote Lawyer Google or quote Steve Bannon or

1:46:50 whoever they’re getting it from and claim that your decision was

1:46:56 illegal.

1:46:57 Now, there is zero integrity in claiming that that was an

1:47:02 illegal decision.

1:47:04 And when they come at you and they yell at you that you’re fired

1:47:09 and they’re going to take your job because you made that legal

1:47:14 decision,

1:47:15 they’re making an assumption about your integrity and they’re

1:47:18 assuming that you have none.

1:47:20 They’re assuming that you’re so power hungry that you would put

1:47:24 children’s lives at stake just to keep your job on the board.

1:47:29 Now, if someone comes up to you and says, put people’s risk at

1:47:34 lives for me.

1:47:35 Put people’s lives at risk because I want you. There’s only one

1:47:39 response to that.

1:47:40 You look them in the eye and you roar at them and you say, not

1:47:44 know that.

1:47:45 Oh, heck no. I’m not doing that.

1:47:49 Now, they’re here making noise. But they’re not the only

1:47:54 citizens in Brevard County.

1:47:56 They don’t represent the people who are immune compromised and

1:47:59 can’t come to this petri dish of an event.

1:48:02 They don’t represent the thousands of people who have signed

1:48:06 petitions for.

1:48:08 There’s a lot of people they don’t represent, and that includes

1:48:12 me.

1:48:13 Some of us value integrity. We value lives. We value and take.

1:48:19 Thank you, Julia. All right.

1:48:22 They found out. And then after that, we have Cindy Martin,

1:48:25 Aurora Shainer and then Melissa Hanson.

1:48:28 They found out Oakland. No.

1:48:34 All right. Cindy Martin.

1:48:41 No, Cindy Martin, either.

1:48:51 Thank you very much. Good evening, everyone. Thanks for being

1:48:55 here. Thank you to the two board members who oppose the mask

1:48:59 mandate.

1:49:00 The Miami Herald reports today that yesterday, George Judge

1:49:04 Cooper lifted an automatic stay that had been triggered when the

1:49:08 DeSantis administration appealed.

1:49:10 The September 2nd ruling to the first District Court of Appeal.

1:49:14 The motion filed Wednesday night requested that the Tallahassee

1:49:18 base appeals court reimpose the stay while the underlying battle

1:49:23 about the September 2nd ruling moves forward.

1:49:26 The motion contends, in part, that Cooper’s ruling violated

1:49:30 constitutional separation of powers and delved into policy and

1:49:34 political issues about whether schools could be allowed to

1:49:38 require masks.

1:49:40 As long as the mask mandate litigation continues, students have

1:49:44 the right to choose whether they wear a mask or not while

1:49:48 attending school.

1:49:50 Show me a legitimate study demonstrating that your mask are

1:49:54 effective in filtering out covid 19 viruses.

1:49:58 I haven’t seen one yet. There hasn’t been one produced yet. I’d

1:50:02 love to see it. I promise you I read every word and I would

1:50:07 share it.

1:50:08 I did send out one of the masks that your BPS schools provide

1:50:12 the students to an independent lab, and I am personally paying

1:50:16 for a report of efficacy of filtration for covid 19 and its

1:50:20 associated variant.

1:50:22 I’m happy to pay for that. I have some extra money. It’s going

1:50:25 to be six weeks before I receive that data for you. I’ll be

1:50:28 happy to share it.

1:50:30 Also, please be aware that the administration and teachers

1:50:34 bullying and retaliating against students with medical

1:50:37 exemptions will not be tolerated and legal action will be taken.

1:50:42 Some kids actually document these instances of bullying and

1:50:46 retaliation for their medical exemptions by teachers and staff

1:50:51 at BPS schools.

1:50:52 A lot of these kids have recording devices and they do record.

1:50:58 They also know how to use YouTube pretty well.

1:51:03 I’m sure you did hear about the Las Vegas substitute teacher who

1:51:07 taped a mask to her student’s face, which humiliated that

1:51:11 student in front of his classmates and caused irreparable harm

1:51:16 psychologically to him.

1:51:18 According to his statement, he knew of at least five other

1:51:22 students who endured such treatment by the teacher doing the

1:51:26 same type of thing to other students.

1:51:29 I predict that that will be litigated. We definitely don’t want

1:51:34 a situation whereby BPS is sued for conduct such as this.

1:51:38 This is a fantastic school system. I agree with the previous

1:51:41 speaker. I do believe that this board is extremely intelligent.

1:51:45 I also believe that the timing of Judge Cooper’s ruling is very

1:51:49 suspicious.

1:51:50 My fourth grade students are currently learning about government

1:52:03 and yet our very own local school government is letting our

1:52:10 children down by breaking the law.

1:52:13 In the social studies weekly last week, my fourth grader, my

1:52:17 fourth grader’s favorite question was, quote, what are some

1:52:21 common issues that face the state of Florida?

1:52:23 Close quote. His answer was, quote, current issues in Florida

1:52:27 are mask mandates in schools.

1:52:29 The Brevard School District board members broke the state of

1:52:36 Florida law by voting the mask mandates without parental opt out.

1:52:44 Florida House Bill 241, Parents Bill of Rights effective July 1st,

1:52:44 2021. Close quote.

1:52:44 I’m going to add that you not only broke the law, but you broke

1:52:47 their trust. And what you’ve done and continue to do is

1:52:50 unethical, unethical and unconstitutional.

1:52:53 My son said, why do I have to follow their school mask mandate

1:52:57 if they don’t follow the state law?

1:52:59 Our kids don’t need your permission to breathe oxygen. It’s a

1:53:02 God given right to all of us. The masks are not proven to

1:53:06 prevent the spreading of the virus.

1:53:08 Why are we quarantining healthy kids? A headache is not a reason

1:53:12 to send a child home for 10 days and miss on school.

1:53:15 It’s our mission as a school district to serve every student

1:53:19 with excellence. Then why are if that’s the you know, that’s the

1:53:23 question.

1:53:24 So then why are the kids having to pay for your lack of

1:53:27 excellence by not being allowed to breathe normal levels of

1:53:30 oxygen during their school hours?

1:53:32 Parents should be able to opt out without a doctor’s note. I

1:53:37 have my parental right to make medical decisions for my children,

1:53:42 not you, not other parents. No person should be mandated to do

1:53:46 anything. I’m anti mandate, especially not in this free country

1:53:48 of ours.

1:53:48 Not for a 99.9 survival rate virus. We are we all have an immune

1:53:54 system. How about mandating vitamins, fruits and vegetables? But

1:54:01 you know, I’m anti that anti mandate. So virtual learning could

1:54:03 be a solution for those at risk or afraid of getting sick.

1:54:05 I take care of my health and my kids health and I like I like to

1:54:09 keep it that way. Our free agencies are the ultimate human right.

1:54:13 Please stop quarantining our healthy kids and stop asphyxiating

1:54:17 them. My child my choice. I’m an immigrant and a mom who cares

1:54:21 about keeping my kids and America free. Thank you.

1:54:24 Thank you, Melissa.

1:54:28 And as Melissa is approaching our next two speakers will be Shonda

1:54:32 Barber and then Christopher McGill.

1:54:34 Hi, so I’m here to speak out about the implementing

1:54:37 implementation of the mask mandate. Your mission on the board

1:54:41 says to serve every student with excellence as a standard to

1:54:45 serve to be a servant. That does not mean mandating or forcing.

1:54:49 As a parent, we know what’s best for our children. I’m not here

1:54:51 to tell other parents how to raise their children, what to feed

1:54:54 them, how they should behave and nor should you be dictating

1:54:58 without consent from the parents.

1:55:00 Consent matters. It’s the ultimate form of respect. Have you

1:55:04 asked the children how they feel, what they want? Again, it’s a

1:55:07 respectful choice. Just as parents are split, they are as well.

1:55:11 My child has struggled to keep up with his peers and now you’re

1:55:15 forcing another layer of distraction to his learning. How are

1:55:19 children supposed to understand compassion when they cannot see

1:55:22 faces?

1:55:23 How are they supposed to overcome speech impediments when they

1:55:27 can’t see how to proper pronunciate? How are they be able to be

1:55:31 inspired when they’re being restrained?

1:55:34 If you’re scared, then you have an option, right? You’re an

1:55:37 adult. You can make the decision for yourself and your family.

1:55:40 You can mask. Our children should not be living this way without

1:55:44 parental consent.

1:55:45 Our children have already been stripped away of their innocence.

1:55:48 They have grown up faster than we did at their age. My kid comes

1:55:51 down with mandatory lockdown, right? Like we’re having

1:55:54 conversations about hiding from potential shooters in the

1:55:57 building.

1:55:58 Now we’re worried about a mask too. We teach our children to be

1:56:01 respectful of others. But are we teaching them that today? Don’t

1:56:05 they deserve respect? We teach our children that they can only

1:56:09 control their own actions and reactions.

1:56:11 We should practice what we preach. You take care of you. We’ll

1:56:15 take care of us. We all make choices. I hope you can all reflect

1:56:19 on the choices you made and feel confident and secure in the

1:56:22 results that will follow.

1:56:23 Please be respectful of choice. Choice for all. We just heard

1:56:27 about the budget with respect to enrollment. We all make choices.

1:56:32 Remember, a person’s a person no matter how small.

1:56:35 And again, I’d like to say thank you to the two members who

1:56:38 actually allowed us as parents to still have a choice in how our

1:56:42 children are raised. Thank you.

1:56:44 Thank you. Shondell.

1:56:51 Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is

1:56:54 Shondell Barber. I’ve been a resident of VR for six years and I

1:56:58 grew up in Florida.

1:56:59 I have three children ages six, seven and nine that have

1:57:03 attended Brevard County. We moved to this county because of the

1:57:06 school board and because of the schools and the excellence they

1:57:09 they have proven.

1:57:11 However, today I’m here to upset and and I need to fight for my

1:57:15 children right now.

1:57:17 Okay. And I do applaud the ones that did that did a vote for

1:57:21 this. I’ve been in the dental industry for 20 years. I hold a

1:57:26 bachelor’s degree in business. I have OSHA certified training

1:57:29 compliance and I hold a bachelor’s in business and theology.

1:57:33 The coronavirus when I found this out, I was appalled. This is

1:57:48 from the American Medical Association encyclopedia in nineteen

1:57:48 eighty nine. The coronavirus is listed in that book as what a

1:57:49 common cold.

1:57:50 Okay, that’s nineteen eighty nine. Google has removed. Why is my

1:57:54 mic not working? Okay, just checking on you. Right. The CDC

1:57:59 director has openly admitted that COVID-19 vaccine cannot

1:58:03 protect you.

1:58:04 Also starting to change the language from immune to protected.

1:58:08 That’s next.

1:58:10 Headaches, anxiety, sensory issues, psychological effect

1:58:14 violates the disability act. You are breaking the law and I will

1:58:19 make sure that all of you are responsible for it.

1:58:23 And if it gets to the point to the Nuremberg, you might want to

1:58:26 be a little careful next time.

1:58:28 Mask wearing. Right. And these are all by proof of all the

1:58:32 doctors by wearing a mask. The exhale viruses will not be able

1:58:36 to escape and will concentrate the nasal passages into the olfactory

1:58:41 nerve and goes right straight to the brain.

1:58:44 That’s Russell Brad, the AMD. Seventeen studies were analyzed.

1:58:49 And concluded that none of the established inclusive

1:58:53 relationships between mass respirator use and protection against

1:58:58 influenza common cold slash coronavirus.

1:59:04 Well, our medical history states that the coronavirus is a

1:59:08 common cold wearing masks for long periods of time. And my

1:59:12 children are fine.

1:59:14 They’re being upset. They can’t learn. They’re pulling their

1:59:19 mask and they’re treated as if they were bad if their mask slips

1:59:22 down their nose.

1:59:23 Hire me. You’re you you’re violating my rights as a citizen

1:59:33 parent. I pay taxes. I pay a lot this year. I’m going to be zero

1:59:35 because that’s exactly what you earn. I hope to Santa will take

1:59:38 your salary away because what you’re doing right now is illegal.

1:59:43 What’s going on in North Carolina is the same thing.

1:59:47 Our rights are being violated. You’ve also violated the rights

1:59:51 of the Special Needs Disability Act. Thank you.

1:59:53 We appreciate you joining us this evening. Christopher McGill.

1:59:57 You’re done, ma’am. Please step away.

2:00:02 Please step away from the mic, ma’am. Yes. Out.

2:00:10 That’s OK. OK.

2:00:21 Christopher McGill, thank you for your patience, sir.

2:00:27 Christopher McGill, I have a beautiful little daughter named

2:00:30 Adam McGill. She attends Sun Tree Elementary. I try to look at

2:00:33 everything on both sides. I want to see it from one person’s

2:00:36 point of view and another person’s point of view and try to come

2:00:39 together.

2:00:40 It seems like everyone can’t figure that out. But also when I

2:00:44 like to look into things because, you know, anybody could tell

2:00:46 you anything.

2:00:47 But does that mean it’s trustworthy to believe? It doesn’t

2:00:50 matter if it’s your average Joe or a person that has 14

2:00:54 different degrees because we’ve come to find out that there’s

2:00:56 evil.

2:00:56 There’s corruption in every level, industry, company, agency,

2:01:00 government, anything that you could possibly think of.

2:01:03 It does exist. So with that said.

2:01:08 I took a screenshot of what this mask box labels on it.

2:01:13 The ones that a majority of you are wearing and you’re making

2:01:16 others wear as well.

2:01:18 It says this product is an ear loop mask. This product is not a

2:01:23 respirator and will not provide any protection against COVID-19,

2:01:28 also known as the coronavirus or other viruses or contaminants.

2:01:32 Wearing an ear loop mask does not reduce the risk of contracting

2:01:36 any disease or infection.

2:01:38 User is solely responsible for the addition of appropriate

2:01:43 personal protective equipment.

2:01:46 So what that states is the mask does nothing. They don’t want to

2:01:50 be held liable.

2:01:51 So that’s why they label their box that. So why don’t you guys

2:01:54 read what it states before you tell others that they need to

2:01:58 wear this?

2:01:59 It’s disrespectful. And if we want to get to that topic, we can

2:02:03 look at last year’s numbers.

2:02:04 I had I know we had another gentleman and I respect that

2:02:06 gentleman and his numbers and stuff like that.

2:02:08 But on Florida had a very like low case numbers.

2:02:12 And, you know, we didn’t have a mass mandate, but if you looked

2:02:15 at a lot of these other states, they had multiple mass mandates

2:02:17 made higher numbers or deaths.

2:02:19 So at the end of the day, we these numbers, they matter because

2:02:24 it shows you that the mask didn’t work.

2:02:28 I also want to let you know that the same agencies that you guys

2:02:31 listen to are telling you to enforce mask.

2:02:33 There’s the same ones are telling you that there’s a Delta

2:02:36 variant.

2:02:37 We have a test for a Delta variant because we don’t. It’s a lie.

2:02:44 I also want to say, are any of you in possession?

2:02:48 Or have you been stated to receive any federal funding on the

2:02:51 condition of a universal masking?

2:02:53 And if any other COVID protocols, if anyone, the staff and or

2:02:57 students for the school district, if so, you are then

2:03:01 representing these individuals and not feel the ones that have

2:03:04 elected you.

2:03:05 I just want to put all you guys will notice if you’re receiving

2:03:08 any kind of gifts, assets, any kind of bonuses, you’re being

2:03:13 promised things by special interest groups.

2:03:16 If you don’t think that we’re not going to figure this out, we

2:03:18 do have whistleblowers. People are inside and they’re scared to

2:03:22 death because they have gag orders put on them.

2:03:23 But they’re going to blow the whistle and they’re going to

2:03:25 expose a lot of what’s going on.

2:03:27 So hopefully you guys think before you take your next action. We

2:03:29 appreciate you joining us. God bless you guys.

2:03:33 All right, that is going to conclude our public comments for

2:03:36 today. Does anyone, any other board member have anything else to

2:03:42 report?

2:03:43 I will. I’m just going to make one short comment before I turn

2:03:48 it over to you, Dr. Mullins, and then Mr. Gibbs needs some time

2:03:51 this evening as well.

2:03:53 There have been lots of comments made accusations about students

2:03:57 being bullied, and I just want to make it very clear that no one

2:04:02 on this board is supportive of any faculty or staff bullying

2:04:07 students over mass.

2:04:08 We’ve made it very clear that is not the expectation.

2:04:12 Given that I’m not saying it has not happened, but I am saying

2:04:16 that general statements of this taking place don’t help us.

2:04:20 If there is a situation where this is taking place, then number

2:04:24 one, contact the principal and number two, let us know.

2:04:28 But generalities of these things taking place don’t help us to

2:04:31 address the issue.

2:04:33 So if you actually want the issue address, much better to reach

2:04:37 out to us so we can address it directly.

2:04:40 Instead of making individual making broad public statements

2:04:44 where we can’t actually address it.

2:04:46 All right, Dr. Mullins, do you have anything more to add this

2:04:49 evening?

2:04:50 Ms. Belfort, thank you for those comments. I do want to also add,

2:04:54 I feel it necessary to come to the defense of some amazing staff

2:04:59 members, men and women who have devoted themselves to serving

2:05:03 our children in our cafeterias across the district.

2:05:07 Some allegations have come forth that have been determined

2:05:11 invalid and the suggestion that the men and women who put

2:05:14 themselves on the front line last school year throughout the

2:05:19 summer and continuously throughout last year to ensure that our

2:05:24 kids have a healthy meal for them was very disappointing.

2:05:30 And those to the degree that we can investigate those

2:05:33 allegations, they were completely found completely determined

2:05:38 unfounded that children were denied food because they weren’t

2:05:42 wearing a mask.

2:05:43 So I had the opportunity to visit one of the cafeterias that

2:05:49 were accused of that and provided that staff the reassurance but

2:05:54 I could tell you that they were hurt.

2:05:56 And I just want to acknowledge their work and their service and

2:06:00 their dedication to our kids and their selfless commitment to

2:06:04 serving the kids of our county and ensuring that they have

2:06:08 healthy meals every day available for them.

2:06:11 So thank you.

2:06:12 Thank you, Dr. Mullins.

2:06:15 All right.

2:06:17 At this point, the chair recognizes the board’s attorney Paul

2:06:20 Gibbs.

2:06:21 Good evening board members I’m notifying you that advice is

2:06:25 needed regarding OJCC case Pablo Burbano versus the school board

2:06:29 of Brevard County, Florida case number 21 dash 007623 RLD

2:06:35 pursuant to 286.011 Florida statutes known as the government the

2:06:40 Sunshine Act.

2:06:41 I am requesting an attorney client session with the board for

2:06:45 the purpose of discussing the evaluation and or compromise of

2:06:49 said claim.

2:06:50 I will ask the board’s clerk to cause reasonable public notice

2:06:53 of the time and date of this attorney client session and the

2:06:56 names of the persons attending to be published.

2:06:58 It is suggested that the attorney client session be held

2:07:01 September 17 2021 at 1pm as required by the statute, only the

2:07:06 following individuals will be present misty Belford board chair,

2:07:09 Matt Susan, Vice Chair, Katie Campbell school board member,

2:07:13 Jennifer Jenkins school board member Cheryl McDougal school

2:07:17 board member deputy superintendent Dr.

2:07:20 Beth Betty sitting in for superintendent dark mark, Dr. Mark

2:07:24 Mullins, Paul Gibbs general counsel William Robner Esquire the

2:07:28 HR law firm.

2:07:29 I will ask a court reporter to record the session, also as

2:07:32 required by statute, her notes will be fully transcribed and

2:07:34 filed with the clerk of the school board upon the conclusion of

2:07:37 any litigation and or settlement of all claims arising out of

2:07:40 this incident, the transcript

2:07:42 will be made public record recommend.

2:07:45 Sorry. No, I recommend the board hold an attorney client session

2:07:52 pursuant to section 286.011 Florida statutes to discuss a

2:07:55 pending claim. If there are no objections I will instruct our

2:07:58 attorney to schedule the attorney client session to be held

2:08:01 September

2:08:01 17 2021 starting at 1pm, or as soon thereafter as the matter may

2:08:06 be heard right here any objection from any board member.

2:08:10 Hearing none. Mr. Gibbs before distracted. Thank you.

2:08:15 All right, there being no further business this meeting is now

2:08:19 adjourned Have a great night.

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