Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL
0:00 (upbeat music)
0:30 - Good evening.
0:31 I’m happy to welcome all of my fellow board members
0:33 and the public and call the September 9th, 2021
0:37 final public budget hearing
0:39 and school board meeting to order.
0:41 This is a business meeting of the board
0:43 held in the public.
0:44 As such, the board is authorized to adopt rules or policies
0:48 to maintain orderly conduct and proper decorum
0:50 in a public meeting.
0:53 Please note that your presence here
0:54 is subject to those rules and policies.
0:57 Pursuant to Florida statute 877.13,
1:01 it is unlawful in the misdemeanor of the second degree,
1:05 punishable by up to 60 days in jail
1:08 and a $500 fine for any person
1:13 to knowingly disrupt or interfere
1:15 with the lawful administration
1:17 or functions of any educational institution or school board,
1:21 or knowingly to advise, counsel or instruct
1:25 any school pupil or school employee
1:27 to disrupt any school or school board function
1:30 or activity on school board property.
1:34 To facilitate an amenable environment for all,
1:38 please be aware of the following.
1:40 For our policy, masks are currently required at all times
1:44 while indoors on school district property,
1:46 unless a verified medical exemption has been provided.
1:50 Two, if you must leave the building for any reason,
1:52 you will not be permitted to reenter.
1:54 Your seat will be given to the next person waiting to enter.
1:58 Three, the appropriate place
2:00 for public participation in the meeting
2:01 is during your individual public comment opportunity
2:04 as identified in the agenda.
2:06 Outside of your individual public comment opportunity,
2:09 your role in the meeting is as an observer.
2:13 Four, I will ask persons deemed to be knowingly
2:16 or intentionally disrupting this meeting
2:17 of the school board of Brevard County
2:19 or not complying with policy to stop or leave.
2:23 If persons receiving the warning
2:24 choose not to follow my instructions,
2:26 I will instruct Brevard County Sheriff’s deputies
2:28 to take any law enforcement action they deem appropriate,
2:32 and you may be escorted, detained, or arrested
2:35 depending on the conduct.
2:37 Persons who refuse to depart after a warning
2:40 may also be committing the crime of trespassing
2:42 in accordance with Florida statute section 810.08.
2:46 These statutes apply to conduct on all school board property
2:49 which includes this boardroom
2:51 as well as the outside of this building to the sidewalk.
2:56 If you continue to cause a disruption,
2:57 you are advised that you were in violation
2:59 of Florida state statute 877.13.
3:03 Or if you fail to leave the premises
3:04 after being warned by the Sheriff’s office,
3:07 you are committing trespass
3:08 and the board has authorized the Sheriff’s office
3:10 to enforce these rules.
3:12 In the event multiple individuals fail
3:14 to adhere to these expectations
3:16 and board business cannot continue due to disruption,
3:19 I will call a recess
3:20 and request that the law enforcement officers present
3:22 clear the boardroom of attendees.
3:24 When the room is cleared, the board will return
3:26 and resume their meeting with no public presence.
3:29 Those who are signed up to speak
3:30 will be seated under the front entry area
3:32 and called in when it is your time to speak.
3:35 Ms. Escobar, roll call, please.
3:37 - Mrs. Belford. - Present.
3:39 - Ms. McDougall. - Present.
3:40 - Mrs. Jenkins. - Present.
3:42 - Mr. Susan. - Present.
3:44 - And Mrs. Campbell. - Present.
3:47 - The board will now hold a moment of silent reflection
3:49 in memory of DPS family members who recently passed away.
3:53 Dana Mitchell, a before and after childcare group leader
3:56 from Imperial Estates.
3:58 Clarice Jackson, a cafeteria cashier
4:00 from Cambridge Elementary.
4:02 Linda Jabkiewicz, a cafeteria manager
4:04 from Food and Nutrition Services.
4:06 And Candace Verity, a Head Start advocate.
4:23 - Thank you.
4:36 Please stand for the pledge.
4:44 - I pledge allegiance to the flag
4:47 of the United States of America
4:49 and to the republic for which it stands,
4:52 one nation under God, indivisible,
4:55 with liberty and justice for all.
5:03 - At this time, I would like to offer
5:04 my fellow board members and Dr. Mullins
5:06 the opportunity to recognize students, staff,
5:08 or members of the community.
5:11 Who’d like to start us off?
5:13 Ms. McDougall.
5:16 - I’m gonna start by giving a huge shout out
5:19 to the facilities department, especially couple weeks ago,
5:24 Poco had a blown transformer and they had to vacate,
5:31 the school got real hot obviously,
5:33 and the transformer wasn’t a little one.
5:35 They had to bring in a crane from Daytona,
5:38 which meant our facilities team worked through the night
5:41 to make sure the next day with Florida Power and Light
5:44 to make sure that there was air conditioning.
5:46 So my shout out is to, I hope I get everybody’s name right,
5:50 Kevin Batchelder, Mike Vilgotti, did I say that right?
5:55 Did I say that right, Ms. Tan?
5:56 I don’t know if I did.
5:58 Ron Anderson, Sean Click, Greg Walsh, Larry Elmore,
6:03 Jason Pitcher, Keith Stevenson, and Jim Ross.
6:06 So a big shout out to them for working through the night
6:09 to make sure the next day that our students
6:11 and staff had air conditioning.
6:13 So thank you very much for going above and beyond.
6:16 - Thank you, Ms. Van Google.
6:17 Ms. Campbell?
6:19 - Thank you.
6:20 So I just wanted to highlight a special recognition week
6:25 that is coming up, September the 12th through the 18th
6:28 is National Arts and Education Week.
6:30 We have Arts and Education Month, which is in the spring,
6:32 but National Arts and Education Week is next week.
6:35 And I just applaud all of our arts teachers,
6:39 which include our elementary music and strings teachers,
6:41 our art teachers, which have all the different kinds,
6:45 drawings, ceramics, this is not your mama’s art class.
6:48 We have digital arts as well, band, orchestra, choir,
6:52 theater, music theater.
6:54 My family has particularly been blessed
6:56 to be a part of many of these programs.
6:59 And I’m so thankful for all of our arts teachers
7:01 across the district who do such a fantastic job
7:04 and always represent our district well,
7:06 and our students represent, under their tutelage,
7:08 represent our district well in state competitions
7:10 and national competitions as well.
7:12 So thank you to all of our arts teachers.
7:16 - Thank you, Ms. Campbell.
7:17 Ms. Benkert?
7:18 - Yeah.
7:20 Can I put myself on now?
7:21 - Yeah. - Thank you.
7:24 I, this Saturday, there are a lot of events going around,
7:29 going on around Brevard for 9/11.
7:32 And I found one that I thought would be particularly
7:35 interesting to participate in.
7:36 I’m really looking forward to it.
7:38 The Cocoa Firefighters are doing
7:40 a 9/11 Memorial Stair Climb.
7:43 And they are going to be climbing 2,071 steps,
7:46 which equals the 110 floors of the World Trade Center.
7:49 And it’s gonna be taking place at the Richard Blake Stadium.
7:52 And you’re still able to register
7:54 if you wanna participate.
7:55 There’s no time to complete it.
7:57 And you don’t have to complete it completely if you can’t.
8:00 But you can register at coco911stairclimb.com.
8:06 - Thank you, Ms. Benkert.
8:07 Mr. Susan?
8:09 - Yeah, I wanted to say,
8:10 I don’t know if everybody out here follows sports
8:13 or anything like that,
8:14 but this weekend opened up college football,
8:16 which reminded me, since you mentioned Coco,
8:19 that we got a little bit of a bet coming.
8:21 - Yeah, they’re number one.
8:22 - Right, who’s number one?
8:23 - Coco.
8:24 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
8:25 Coco is an amazing program.
8:27 And for those of you that don’t know,
8:29 Ms. McDougall and I have a little running bet
8:31 that when Rockledge plays Coco,
8:33 we always have to, whoever wins,
8:34 has to wear whatever it is on the other outfit, right?
8:38 So last year, I had to wear the Coco Tiger hat,
8:41 which I think I still have a rash from,
8:43 but we’re gonna be doing something else this year.
8:46 That game is gonna be Wednesday, November 3rd,
8:49 and it’s in my house this time.
8:51 So I’ll make sure you’re taken care of
8:53 and they don’t harass you too much.
8:55 But look, I think we got it this year.
8:57 - Don’t hold your breath.
8:58 - Yeah. (laughs)
9:00 And then I wanted to say thank you to Russell Broom.
9:02 We were working on getting together,
9:04 and the school board members were talking about it.
9:06 We’re gonna start talking about our career
9:08 and technical programs,
9:09 and we’re gonna get into our schools
9:11 and start showing those off.
9:12 So Russell Broom and everybody are doing it.
9:14 We’re gonna try to show our community what we have.
9:17 Last year, we did a couple of them,
9:19 but so that everybody here knows, we have aviation,
9:22 we have automotive, construction, and everything else.
9:25 And while this is going on,
9:27 we can’t forget that these kids need to get to work.
9:30 So just wanted to say thank you to Russell
9:31 for working on setting that up,
9:32 and we’re gonna get moving here in about a month and a half.
9:35 Good, thank you.
9:36 - Thank you, Mr. Susan.
9:37 Sergeant Mullen.
9:39 - Thank you, Ms. Belford.
9:39 I wanna take the opportunity just to give a shout-out
9:42 and my appreciation to several BPS staff members
9:46 across several divisions here at ESF.
9:50 Over the last couple of few weeks,
9:52 we’ve experienced absences at a higher rate
9:55 than we anticipated,
9:56 and with a lower rate of substitutes available,
10:00 it required and called on folks here
10:03 to go out to our schools
10:04 and support our classrooms and our schools.
10:07 And without any reservation or any hesitation,
10:11 our staff jumped to response to support our schools,
10:15 to keep our schools open, to meet the needs.
10:18 Certainly, Leading and Learning sent several staff
10:22 out to our schools, student services, even operations,
10:25 government, community relations, human resources, and so on.
10:30 But even in our schools,
10:32 administrators are going to help other schools
10:34 in administrative capacities.
10:36 Going down an administrator themself at their school
10:39 to help another school that’s in need.
10:41 Just a tremendous demonstration of dedication
10:44 and a commitment to teamwork.
10:45 And I just continue to be immensely proud
10:48 of this organization and the work that we go to
10:50 to serve our kids and serve our schools.
10:53 So thank you to our team.
10:56 - Thank you, Dr. Mullens.
10:59 I know board members, we have talked quite a bit
11:01 about the struggles that we’ve been having
11:04 with getting testing for our faculty, our staff,
11:06 and our students.
11:07 And hopefully you all saw Ms. Moore’s email
11:11 that went out this week,
11:12 that we are going to have some of those home test kits
11:15 that we will have in our schools and at facilities here
11:18 for symptomatic individuals to be able to test at home,
11:21 alleviating some of that challenge.
11:24 And so I just wanna give a shout out
11:25 to all the folks that are coordinating that.
11:27 Obviously, as you can imagine,
11:28 distributing throughout the district is not easy
11:33 all the time, right?
11:34 Making sure that we have everybody covered.
11:35 So just super excited that we’re gonna have that opportunity
11:39 for our students and our staff and our faculties
11:41 to be able to get back to loving learning
11:45 as soon as possible.
11:46 And then I also wanna give a shout out
11:48 to many of our schools have transitioned
11:51 and already taken part in the virtual open houses
11:55 since we gave the direction
11:56 that we didn’t want large groups of people around,
11:59 had the opportunity to participate
12:01 in one of them last night.
12:02 And if there’s anything that I can say
12:05 that has come out of this challenge
12:08 of the last 18, 19 months,
12:11 it’s that our folks have gotten incredibly creative
12:13 about the way that we work.
12:15 And they just did a phenomenal job
12:17 on the open house last night and great information.
12:20 And the nice thing is it’s there
12:22 that we can go back to anytime and view it again.
12:24 So really a bonus there.
12:26 So thanks to everyone who is working so hard to work around
12:30 and over the challenges that we’ve been facing.
12:34 - All right, that is going to bring us
12:37 to the adoption of the agenda, Dr. Mullen.
12:39 - Ms. Belford and members of the board,
12:41 on this evening’s agenda, we have the final budget hearing,
12:44 which includes the superintendent’s presentation,
12:47 public hearings and recommendations.
12:49 On the regular school board meeting,
12:50 we have administrative staff recommendations,
12:53 16 consent items, two action items,
12:56 and one information item.
12:59 Changes made to the agenda since it was first released
13:01 to the public on Tuesday, August 18, 2021 are as follows.
13:06 Items A-16 on administrative staff recommendations,
13:10 F-22 on instructional staff recommendations,
13:14 F-23 on support staff recommendations,
13:17 F-18 on meeting minutes,
13:20 and F-26 on code of student conduct all received revision.
13:25 Attachments were added to items A-7
13:27 on superintendent’s presentation,
13:29 final public budget hearing, A-12 on adopt
13:33 the 2021-2022 budget,
13:37 and F-21 on annual financial reports
13:40 for fiscal year 2020-21.
13:43 - What are the wishes of the board?
13:45 - Move to review.
13:46 - Second.
13:47 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. McDougall.
13:49 Is there any discussion?
13:51 Hearing none, please vote.
13:59 (faintly speaking)
14:08 - No, really, I don’t, it’s not, I don’t know.
14:10 - Yeah, it’s not just you.
14:16 - I refresh.
14:17 - Refresh.
14:26 Do you want to voice vote?
14:27 All in favor, please signify by saying aye.
14:30 - Aye.
14:30 - Any opposed, same sign.
14:32 The motion passes five-zero.
14:34 - Okay, it’s saying that–
14:36 - Present, yes.
14:36 - Yeah.
14:39 - Did you get that, Pam?
14:46 Maybe it’s just figurative.
14:57 - All right.
15:03 All right, we will proceed with the second
15:05 and final public hearing for the 2021-2022
15:08 proposed millage rates and tentative budget.
15:10 The hearing of September 9, 2021 is now in session.
15:19 Feel like I might have.
15:23 All right, now we will move into the presentation
15:25 portion of this hearing, Ms. Cindy Lascinski,
15:27 Chief Financial Officer will make a presentation
15:29 on the proposed 2021-2022 budget and millage levy.
15:33 Ms. Lascinski.
15:39 - Good evening, members, Dr. Mone.
15:42 This is the second and final budget hearing.
15:54 This slide depicts the agenda for this evening.
16:08 So I’m gonna start off with the truth and millage.
16:11 So the truth and millage legislation
16:14 requirements are detailed under Florida statutes.
16:17 Trim timelines are very prescriptive in law
16:21 and the clock started on July 1st.
16:23 The total timeline to budget adoption is 80 days.
16:27 The statute dictates the order of business
16:29 during the budget hearings
16:31 and trim requires two public hearings
16:34 for open discussion of the millage rates
16:36 and the proposed budget.
16:45 So millage is a term that represents the tax rate
16:48 levied on real estate or other property.
16:51 One mill is equivalent to $1 in taxes
16:55 per $1,000 in taxable value.
16:58 If your home has a taxable value of $100,000
17:01 and you’re assessed a mill tax rate,
17:04 you would pay $100.
17:15 The Florida Education Finance Program or FEFP
17:19 is the centerpiece for financing Florida school districts
17:22 operating costs.
17:24 Funding for FEFP combines state funds
17:28 primarily generated from sales tax revenue
17:32 and local funds generated from property tax revenue.
17:36 Our balance here in Brevard is approximately 65, 35%.
17:43 So 65% of our funding comes from the state,
17:47 35 comes from our taxes on our property.
17:52 Required local effort is the local amount of funds
17:55 the district receives from living
17:57 the state certified local millage rate
17:59 on the district taxable property.
18:03 And it’s key to understand
18:05 that the Florida legislature sets this rate.
18:08 So the Florida legislature
18:10 that’s the required local effort millage rate.
18:14 And the school board must levy this RLE effort millage rate
18:19 in order to receive any state funding
18:21 under the Florida Education Finance Program.
18:25 So in order to get the 60% of the funds,
18:28 we have to make sure that we levy the RLE
18:34 in order to get the funding for our school district.
18:41 The proposed required local effort,
18:43 which is set again by the legislature is 3.602.
18:50 The legislature establishes maximums
18:53 for the basic discretionary operating
18:57 and the capital outlay millage rate.
19:00 The total proposed millage related to school funding
19:04 for 2001, 2002 school year is 5.850 mills.
19:12 This millage will generate revenue
19:14 for the general operating and capital outlay funds.
19:18 - Ms. Lisinski, can I interrupt you for just one second?
19:20 I apologize.
19:21 I just wanna remind our audience
19:22 that you are required to have masks while in the boardroom.
19:25 So please make sure that your masks are on
19:26 and you’re wearing them appropriately.
19:28 If you are not going to be wearing them in the boardroom,
19:30 then we would ask that you leave.
19:33 Ms. Lisinski.
19:36 - So maintaining these millage rates
19:39 at the same level as in 2021 allows the district
19:44 to continue our work to serve every student with excellence.
19:50 And then here you can see how the funding comes
19:55 in the different areas.
19:57 So the required local effort is required again
20:03 in order to participate
20:04 in the Florida Education Finance Program.
20:06 So if we wanna fund our district,
20:08 we must levy that tax
20:11 and we will receive approximately 178.9 million
20:17 in local tax proceeds.
20:20 And then we have the full basic discretionary millage,
20:24 which will garner about 37.2 million in operating costs.
20:29 And in addition to that,
20:30 since when we levy the 7.48 millage rate,
20:37 we end up not being,
20:39 we end up being below the state average.
20:41 So because of that,
20:43 we’re able to generate an additional 7 million 360.
20:54 And then the local capital improvement millage or LCI
20:58 will provide the district 74.5 million,
21:05 37.6 comes off the top to pay district’s debt service,
21:10 which covers principal and interest payments
21:13 for previously bonded debt
21:15 that was issued primarily between the years 1996 through 2008
21:22 in order to build schools and provide major renovations.
21:25 LCI contributes 10.3 million
21:28 towards maintenance costs for labor.
21:31 LCI also pays for the district property insurance
21:34 which leaves 21.1 million for capital needs projects
21:40 throughout the district.
21:49 So this slide depicts the historic millage rates
21:52 over the last 10 years.
21:54 Since FY 13, the required local effort millage rates
21:58 have declined each year
22:00 as our property values have increased in the county.
22:04 This has been the trend because of the healthy growth
22:07 of statewide property values
22:08 each year since the great recession.
22:11 Lawmakers reduced the RLE millage rate
22:14 to limit the revenue generated from this source.
22:17 This is a conscious effort
22:19 to reduce the tax burden on homeowners.
22:29 As required by TRMM,
22:30 we must compare the proposed millage rate
22:32 to the rollback rate.
22:34 The rollback rate is the millage rate
22:36 that would generate the same amount of revenue
22:38 as last year if applied
22:40 to the current year’s adjusted taxable value.
22:43 Said another way,
22:44 the state rolls back the rate as property values increase
22:47 to bring the total dollars available
22:49 roughly equivalent to the prior year.
22:52 Under TRMM, the rollback rate is the benchmark
22:55 for determining if tax rates have increased or decreased.
22:59 The rollback rate is generally less
23:01 than the proposed tentative rate.
23:03 When the rollback rate is less
23:05 than the proposed millage rate
23:07 that we received from the state,
23:09 we must advertise a tax increase.
23:19 So the certified school property values
23:22 is a large component of how education is funded
23:25 in the state of Florida.
23:27 FY 2009 was the highest annual tax roll
23:31 prior to the great recession.
23:34 Property values have increased each year since 2013.
23:40 And if you look down here,
23:41 you’ll see the 2021 values is what was recently certified
23:45 by the property appraiser.
23:48 And the 21-22 values are the latest state projections
23:51 for next year.
23:53 And this projection actually doubled since March
23:59 when the Office of Economic and Demographic Research
24:03 put out their projection.
24:05 And it’s amazing to me that our tax roll
24:08 during such an uncertain time
24:11 has increased over $3 billion.
24:14 This is mainly due to high demand for homes
24:16 driven by low interest rates and growth.
24:27 This slide illustrates the changes
24:28 in school-related property taxes
24:30 for a homeowner over several years.
24:33 In this example, a home valued at 200,000 in 2016
24:38 would have generated roughly 1,210
24:42 in school-related property tax.
24:46 If the owner qualified for Save Our Homes
24:48 by a 2021-22 school year,
24:52 the assessed value of the same home
24:54 would be 220,000
24:59 based on that valuation,
25:02 the school-related property tax would be about 1,142.
25:06 This is an increase of nine cents from 2020 tax year.
25:19 And so, what does this mean?
25:23 The average family will pay about $1,000 in property taxes
25:28 on a home assessed at $200,000.
25:31 And what that means to the schools in the district
25:35 is $2.80 a day.
25:39 And then the $2.80 per day pays for teachers,
25:42 school counselors, buses, electricity, fuel,
25:47 I mean, lab equipment, laptops,
25:50 just everything that we need
25:55 was that $2.80 a day.
26:05 And so, now we’re here
26:07 at the 21-22 proposed tentative budget.
26:10 Both the operating and the capital budgets are balanced.
26:14 A year ago, we faced much uncertainty about the economy,
26:18 how long the length and the severity of the pandemic
26:22 in the county, in the state, in the nation, and globally.
26:27 The board made difficult decisions
26:28 and made budget reductions
26:30 in anticipation of budget reduction of $15 million
26:35 due to enrollment decline
26:37 and additional cuts to cover rising FRS and healthcare costs.
26:43 That said, it could have been worse.
26:46 The district was fortunate to be held harmless
26:49 in school year 21.
26:51 As a result, we were able to capture
26:53 approximately 8.9 million in one-time savings
26:57 from FY21 classroom savings
27:01 that we were able to balance our FY22 budget.
27:08 Although using one-time savings is not ideal,
27:14 it is consistent with how we utilized our ARRA funds
27:18 during the Great Recession.
27:19 We still have uncertainty around enrollment
27:21 and will continue to monitor and make necessary adjustments
27:25 in order to minimize our dependence on one-time dollars
27:29 while at the same time,
27:30 ensure we have resources available
27:34 to meet the needs of every student.
27:45 This slide kinda lays out or breaks out a little bit further
27:49 and it starts with the fund balance as of July 1st.
27:54 It shows our revenues, our expenditures,
27:56 transfers in, transfers out
27:58 and projected fund balance for June 30th.
28:02 And again, I know I say this every meeting,
28:04 a budget is a plan based on estimated revenue
28:07 and expenditures, it is not money in the bank.
28:11 It is a starting point, a starting point.
28:13 Lost revenue like enrollment decline, increased expenses
28:17 and/or emerging requirements impact the bottom line.
28:21 No plan survives for first contact.
28:25 The key is to build branches and sequels
28:28 as we closely monitor the execution of our budget.
28:33 And then the total tentative budget is 1,281,988,000.
28:43 Do I got that right?
28:44 698.
28:48 And then the next step is a notification
28:52 of the final millage in budget.
28:59 Are there any questions?
29:03 - I think our members have questions for Ms. Lusensky
29:04 on the presentation.
29:09 Ms. Campbell?
29:10 - I just had a quick comment.
29:12 Just had a quick comment and a thank you.
29:15 I was trying to find the place
29:17 and I couldn’t find where you guys had talked about.
29:21 I think it’s in the section on the special revenue.
29:23 Yeah, there it is.
29:25 That talks about our ESSER dollars.
29:27 And first of all, I wanna thank you.
29:28 I know we’re gonna be approving it later,
29:30 our annual financial report.
29:33 I just appreciate that you guys put all that
29:35 in its own section because I think that helps for us
29:38 to see the federal dollars that have come in, COVID relief.
29:41 It also helps the public to be able to see it.
29:45 And I just wanted, and I can see it in the budget as well,
29:49 even though we haven’t received the next set of dollars.
29:53 But I would encourage the public to take a look
29:57 at the annual financial report for last year,
30:00 as well as my federal board members starting on page nine,
30:03 so I think about page 15.
30:05 It lists the income we have received.
30:08 There was some question back in the spring
30:09 in the legislature about school districts
30:11 who hadn’t used their CARES Act dollars
30:14 because they were looking at old data that showed,
30:17 “This is how much you’ve gotten in.”
30:18 But I just wanted to highlight that
30:21 for the first round of money that we received last year,
30:23 which was not counting the gear money,
30:26 but the ESSER number one from the CARES Act
30:28 was $17 million, and out of that, as of June 30th,
30:33 there was only $1.8 million left of that to be expended,
30:38 which at this point, a lot of that
30:40 could actually be expended.
30:42 And then there’s a page that I think the public needs to see
30:45 in the board on page 12 of the annual financial report
30:49 that lists ESSER two, which was passed
30:52 by the US Congress in December of last year,
30:56 and we still haven’t received those dollars,
30:58 and it makes planning very difficult.
31:00 And so I appreciate the work that you guys are doing
31:02 and our staff to try to cashflow that.
31:06 I see that we’ve made some expenditures,
31:07 but we’re still waiting on that.
31:09 So if you have any updates, I’d love to hear them,
31:11 but I’ve not put anybody in spot on that,
31:13 but I just think it’s important for us
31:15 to continue to remember and the public to understand
31:17 that those dollars were passed.
31:18 They’ve already been set aside.
31:20 We’re still waiting through the same process.
31:22 I know Brevard Public Schools has issued our county plan
31:28 to use those dollars, but they’re not here yet.
31:31 But it also is a good, because I continue to get questions
31:34 about what did you guys spend the money on?
31:36 Is this a good place to start?
31:38 And what is our plan to use it moving forward?
31:40 That is all in here in the budget.
31:43 So thank you guys for putting that in there.
31:46 Not really a question, but I just appreciate it.
31:48 And I wanna make sure that the public is aware
31:50 that we’re still waiting on the second round money.
31:51 And of course the American Rescue Plan was passed
31:54 in the spring, and we really have no idea
31:56 when those dollars are gonna come,
31:58 which could be really beneficial to our district
32:01 as we continue to fight the challenges of the pandemic,
32:06 as far as technology and student support,
32:09 catching kids up who have missed so much school,
32:11 buying PPE and all of that.
32:13 And then just trying to get out of this
32:16 over the next few years.
32:17 And so just the public needs to be aware of that.
32:19 And I wanna highlight it as often as we can
32:22 until we have the advantage of those dollars
32:25 to actually use.
32:26 So thank you guys for your work to do.
32:28 And if you wanted to add anything, jump right in,
32:30 but mainly it was a thank you.
32:31 - Well, actually some good news, there is some movement.
32:34 And of the four areas, the academic acceleration,
32:39 we received those funds, so that was 10.8 million.
32:42 And we also received the non-enrollment assistance fund.
32:46 We’re still waiting on the lump sum,
32:48 which is the big amount, the 38.65 million.
32:52 And the good news is the state has called,
32:54 they only had one question.
32:56 So I think that should be moving.
32:59 - Can you give me the academic assistance was 10 million?
33:02 - 10.8.
33:03 - Okay, and then what was the other–
33:05 - Non-enrollment assistance, 2.177.
33:09 We’re still waiting on the tech assistance, 2.7 million.
33:13 And then the lump sum, we’re still waiting on.
33:16 - All right, thank you so much.
33:17 That is good news.
33:21 - We have not heard anything about ESSER number three yet,
33:24 or our American Rescue Plan Fund.
33:27 So we are still waiting to get direction
33:28 from the state on those funds.
33:31 The state did reach out and ask a couple questions just,
33:35 but we haven’t received.
33:39 - And Dr. Mullins, did you indicate that the state
33:43 has not yet submitted to the federal government
33:46 their plan on ESSER three?
33:48 - That was my last understanding, yes.
33:51 As of last communication, the state had not received
33:54 approval from the federal government
33:56 for their version of application for ESSER number three.
34:00 So yet I do know that not only other states
34:05 have received the funds and distributed in the districts,
34:07 but particularly school districts have received the funds
34:10 and started utilizing them in their districts
34:12 in other states, not in Florida.
34:14 - It is my understanding from something I read this last week
34:17 that the state has received about 2/3 of that money.
34:22 We just don’t have the other 1/3 is what,
34:25 which is the waiting on the application.
34:26 I don’t know if that–
34:27 - That’s true. - Okay.
34:31 - But that’s not to suggest districts have received 2/3.
34:35 The state has received 2/3 of ESSER number three.
34:39 We’ve not received the first release of what is called,
34:45 oh, just left me, invitation, what is it?
34:51 Yes, RFA, request–
34:55 - For application. - For application, thank you.
34:57 It’s having a brain block there, thank you.
35:00 - Yes, and anything else for Ms. Lissinski?
35:05 Okay, we are going to move on to, let’s see.
35:14 The hearing is now open for public comments.
35:16 We will in accordance with Florida law,
35:17 accept the speakers in the following order,
35:19 the 2021/2022 proposed millage levy,
35:22 followed by the 2021/2022 tentative budget.
35:26 Is there any individual that would like to address the board
35:28 on the 2021/2022 proposed millage levy?
35:38 Yes, you can, hold on, if you could, Ms. Lissinski,
35:43 we have one, if you could read the mic.
35:45 - You mentioned that we could,
35:48 you encouraged the public to look at this or someone did,
35:51 maybe Katie, and I just was wondering
35:53 where we would find that information.
35:57 So if you can go ahead and take a seat,
36:00 if that was the, and we will address that.
36:03 Typically, we don’t address questions
36:05 during the public comment,
36:05 but I will get to it when we wrap up, okay?
36:08 Is there anyone else that would like to address the board
36:10 on the 2021/2022 proposed millage levy?
36:17 Is there any individual that would like to address the board
36:19 on the 2021/2022 proposed millage levy?
36:25 Is there any individual that would like to address the board
36:27 on the 2021/2022 tentative budget?
36:33 Is there any individual that would like to address the board
36:35 on the 2021/2022 tentative budget?
36:40 The public comment portion of this hearing is now closed.
36:45 Ms. Lissinski, would you like to address
36:47 where our public can access this information?
36:52 Would you like to address
36:53 where our public can access this information?
36:57 Sorry, the AFR and the budget document
37:07 are both attached to tonight’s agenda.
37:09 So if you go to the school board webpage
37:13 and go down through the agenda,
37:14 you will find both attached, okay?
37:17 You can download them.
37:19 - Thank you.
37:21 All right, that is going to bring us to recommendations
37:23 for the adoption of the 2021/2022
37:26 proposed millage levy and tentative budget.
37:28 Ms. Lissinski?
37:34 - Florida Statute 200.065 requires each taxing authority
37:42 levying millage to publicly state
37:46 the name of the taxing authority, the rollback rates,
37:49 the percentage of change from the rollback rate,
37:52 and the millage rate to be levied
37:54 prior to the adoption of the millage levy resolution.
37:58 In compliance with those requirements,
38:00 the following need to be stated.
38:03 The taxing authority is the school board
38:06 of Brevard County, Florida.
38:09 Required local effort, 3.5600.
38:17 The 2021/22 rollback rates are the required local effort
38:24 of 3.5600, local discretionary is 0.7209,
38:35 capital outlay is 1.4456, total rollback rate is 5.7265.
38:45 The total millage rate to be levied
38:47 exceeds the total rollback rate by 2.16%.
38:53 The proposed 2021/22 millage rates
38:56 are required local effort, 3.602,
39:02 local discretionary, 0.748,
39:06 capital outlay, 1.500, total millage rate, 5.850.
39:18 There are a total of five separate motions.
39:21 I will read each of these recommendations
39:23 into the record and request board action.
39:27 A, adopt the resolution setting the required local effort,
39:32 local discretionary, and capital outlay millage rate
39:36 of 5.850 mills for 2011, I’m sorry, 2021 and 22.
39:45 The written resolution is incorporated
39:48 into the motion by reference.
39:50 What are the wishes of the board?
39:52 - Second.
39:53 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. Campbell.
39:55 Is there any discussion?
39:58 We need a voice vote, Ms. Escobar.
40:20 And the motion passes five, zero.
40:34 Ms. Lisinski.
40:35 - B, adopt the 2021/22 budget
40:39 in the following amounts.
40:41 Operating, 647,856,346.
40:50 Special revenue, 200,401,712.
40:59 Debt service, 38,034,923.
41:06 Capital outlay, 304,639,848.
41:15 Enterprise, 2,214,044.
41:22 Subtotal, 1,193,146,873.
41:32 Less transfers, 67,177,914.
41:41 Total, 1,125,968,959.
41:55 Internal service, 88,841,825.
42:04 - What are the wishes of the board?
42:06 - Move to approve. - Second.
42:07 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. Campbell.
42:09 Is there any discussion?
42:11 The motion passes five, zero.
42:34 Ms. Lisinski.
42:36 - C, authorize the superintendent
42:38 to adjust the adopted millage levy
42:41 and budget due to changes in the certified tax rule.
42:44 - What are the wishes of the board?
42:45 - Move to approve. - Second.
42:47 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. McDougal.
42:49 Any discussion?
42:51 Hearing none, please vote.
43:11 The motion passes five, zero.
43:28 Ms. Lisinski.
43:29 - D, authorize the superintendent
43:31 to forward the adopted millage levy resolution
43:35 to the Brevard County property appraiser
43:38 and tax collector no later than 30 days
43:40 following the adjournment of the value adjustment board.
43:45 - What are the wishes of the board?
43:46 - Move to approve. - Move to approve.
43:48 - Moved by, is that Ms. Dinkins?
43:50 - Second.
43:51 - Moved by Ms. McPherson, seconded by Ms. McPherson.
43:54 Any discussion?
43:57 Please vote.
44:10 (muffled speaking)
44:36 The motion passes five, zero.
44:39 Ms. Lisinski.
44:41 - D, authorize the superintendent
44:43 to forward the following to the designated state agency.
44:47 The adopted budget, millage levy resolution,
44:51 certified tax roll, rollback rate,
44:54 post millage and certified copies of the advertisements
44:59 for the proposed budget and millage rate
45:02 to the State Department of Education.
45:04 Two, the millage levy resolution,
45:08 certified tax roll, rolled back rate, proposed millage
45:13 and certified copies of the advertisement
45:15 for the proposed budget and millage rate
45:17 to the Department of Revenue.
45:19 - What are the wishes of the board?
45:20 - Move to approve.
45:21 - Second.
45:22 - Moved by Mr. McPherson, seconded by Ms. McDougall.
45:25 Is there any discussion?
45:27 Hearing none, please vote.
45:38 (muffled speaking)
45:50 The motion passes five, zero.
45:53 This hearing is now adjourned.
45:57 Thank you, Ms. Lisinski and team.
45:59 We appreciate you being here.
46:02 All right, Dr. Mullins, will you please let us know
46:04 about the administrative staff recommendations this evening?
46:07 - Yes, Ms. Belford and members of the board,
46:09 this evening you’ll be asked to approve
46:10 the reclassification and transfer of first,
46:14 Christina Donahue from the position of assistant principal
46:17 at Andrew Jackson Middle School
46:19 to the position of 10 month assistant principal
46:23 at O’Gally High School, effective September 10th.
46:26 Second, the reclassification of Alicia Lenderman
46:30 from the position of Title I teacher at Endeavor Elementary
46:34 to the position of interim assistant principal
46:36 at Endeavor Elementary, effective September 10th.
46:40 And third, the reclassification and transfer
46:43 of Mrs. Christina Harper from the position
46:47 of 10 month assistant principal at Endeavor Elementary
46:50 to the position of principal at Gemini Elementary School.
46:54 - One of the wishes of the board.
46:57 Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. Campbell.
46:59 Is there any discussion?
47:06 Please vote when you’re able.
47:24 Yeah, it just seems to be moving a little bit slow.
47:28 It’s all good, we’re getting there.
47:32 Got it, motion passes five zero.
47:37 - Mr. Belford, if I may just give my congratulations
47:40 to our three most recent administrative appointees,
47:44 Ms. Donahue, Ms. Lenderman, Ms. Carver.
47:47 Congratulations, I know you’re out there.
47:49 You wanted to make sure it was actually official.
47:51 So you are ready to start tomorrow.
47:54 Congratulations and thank you for your continued leadership
47:57 in our community and in our schools to care for
48:00 and help educate the children of Brevard County.
48:04 - Well said, Dr. Mullins, thank you.
48:07 - All right, folks, we are now at public comments.
48:10 We have 23 speakers signed up to speak this evening.
48:14 We have only one speaker on an agenda item.
48:18 It’s my recommendation that we hear only speakers
48:20 who’ve signed up to specifically address the business items
48:22 on the agenda during this portion of the meeting
48:24 and hear the remaining speakers following the conclusion
48:26 of board business.
48:27 Does anyone wish to make a motion?
48:29 - I’ll make a motion to support the people
48:33 who are on the agenda.
48:34 - And then, oh, I forgot.
48:36 I make a motion that we go ahead and support the people
48:40 who are speaking towards the agenda at this point
48:42 and move everyone else to the end of our meeting
48:45 before we close.
48:46 - Do I have a second?
48:50 So I have a motion by Ms. McDougall
48:52 and a second by Mr. Susan.
48:54 All in favor, please indicate by saying aye.
48:56 - Aye.
48:57 - Any opposed, same sign.
48:59 Motion passes by zero.
49:01 All right, so our first speaker is Matthew Dolly.
49:06 Matthew, if you would please approach
49:08 as I am reading the instructions.
49:10 Each speaker is limited to three minutes.
49:12 We have a clock in front of me
49:13 to help you keep track of your time.
49:14 When your time is over, you will be asked to stop
49:16 and allow the next speaker his or her turn.
49:18 Always keep in mind that reasonable decorum
49:20 is expected at all times and your statement
49:22 should be directed to the board chair.
49:23 The chair may interrupt, warn,
49:25 or terminate a participant statement when time is up.
49:27 It’s personally directed, abusive, obscene, or irrelevant.
49:30 Should an individual not observe proper etiquette,
49:32 the chairman may request the individual leave the meeting.
49:35 Let’s all encourage an environment appropriate
49:37 for our children who may be present
49:38 or are watching from home.
49:40 Mr. Dolly, give me one second.
49:44 When are you ready, sir?
49:45 - I don’t want to speak on a general item.
49:47 I just thought you had to put something down,
49:49 so I just picked a letter and wrote it down.
49:50 - Oh, okay.
49:51 - So I’d like to recycle back to being the 11th speaker.
49:54 I don’t want to cut line.
49:55 It’s kind of not fair.
49:56 - Okay, perfect.
49:57 Thank you, sir.
50:00 All right, that’s going to move us
50:01 into the consent agenda.
50:03 Dr. Mullins.
50:04 - There are 16 agenda items under this category.
50:07 - Thank you, Dr. Mullins.
50:08 Does any board member wish to pull any item
50:10 from the consent agenda?
50:15 Hearing none, I will entertain a motion
50:16 to accept the consent agenda as presented.
50:19 - Second.
50:20 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. McDougall.
50:22 Is there any discussion?
50:24 Hearing none, please vote.
50:30 (silence)
50:48 The motion passes five, zero.
50:52 Dr. Mullins, will you please let us know
50:54 about the items under action?
50:56 - There are two items under this category.
50:58 The first one is G34 on procurement solicitations.
51:03 - Do I have a motion?
51:04 - Move to approve.
51:05 - Second.
51:05 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. Campbell.
51:08 Any discussion?
51:11 Please vote.
51:17 All right, Ms. Escobar indicates we need a voice vote.
51:19 All board members in favor, please signify by saying aye.
51:22 - Aye.
51:22 - All opposed, same sign.
51:24 Motion passes five, zero.
51:26 Dr. Mullins.
51:27 - Item G35 is on department school initiated agreements.
51:31 - Do I hear a motion?
51:32 - Move to approve.
51:32 - Second.
51:33 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. McDougall.
51:37 Is there any discussion?
51:40 Hearing none, voice vote.
51:42 All in favor, please signify by saying aye.
51:44 - Aye.
51:45 - Any opposed, same sign.
51:47 Motion passes five, zero.
51:51 All right, we will move on to the information agenda,
51:53 which includes items for board review
51:55 and may be brought back for action at a subsequent meeting.
51:57 No action will be taken on these items tonight.
51:59 Dr. Mullins.
52:00 - There is one item under the information category.
52:03 - Does any member wish to discuss this information item?
52:08 All right, we will now hear the remaining speakers
52:10 who signed up to comment on non-agenda items.
52:12 Each speaker is limited to three minutes.
52:13 We have a clock in front of me
52:14 to help you keep track of your time.
52:16 When your time is over, you will be asked to stop
52:18 and allow the next speaker his or her turn.
52:20 We’ll hear from the speakers
52:21 in the order in which they signed up,
52:22 including those who may be waiting outside.
52:24 As stated earlier, reasonable decorum is expected
52:27 at all times and your statement
52:28 should be directed to the board chair.
52:30 Should audience participation interfere
52:31 with speakers being heard or hearing me,
52:33 I will be forced to clear the room.
52:35 When I call your name,
52:36 please line up along the east wall of the board room
52:38 to facilitate the smooth transition of speakers.
52:41 Let’s begin with our first three speakers.
52:45 Scott Seville, Matt Wojcickowski, James Ludwa.
52:49 I’m sorry, Jameson Ludwa.
52:57 Scott, whenever you’re ready, feel free to approach.
53:12 - Thank you.
53:13 It’s a pleasure getting to listen to this
53:16 on the agenda items that you have that are not COVID related.
53:22 You guys do a great job.
53:23 You really do, all of you.
53:26 I do wanna talk a little bit about the COVID.
53:29 Last time I was here,
53:31 I talked about how my sister had passed from it
53:35 and best friend in the world.
53:38 She was an awesome person.
53:39 Anyway, her daughter lives in San Francisco
53:41 and she kept telling me, you know,
53:44 we really are diligent about masks out here.
53:47 We’re really diligent about getting the COVID vaccines.
53:51 And I thought, well, I’m gonna just run,
53:53 because this is a real life scenario.
53:55 I’m gonna run the numbers and see what they look like.
53:58 San Francisco was 73% vaccinated, Brevard County is 55%.
54:04 I like San Francisco because its population is 875,000
54:11 and Brevard is 615,000.
54:13 So San Francisco County has 42% more people.
54:19 The number of cases in San Francisco County are 50,000.
54:23 This was as of about a week ago.
54:25 Anybody can look this up.
54:27 In Brevard County was 72,000.
54:30 So San Francisco, although it has a 42% higher population,
54:35 they have 31% less or 22,000 less cases.
54:41 And then I thought, well, what are the deaths?
54:44 The deaths in San Francisco so far have been 589.
54:48 In Brevard County, 914.
54:51 So 36% less.
54:56 I think that this is a great comparison
55:00 because they are 42% larger than us,
55:05 yet they are between 30% cases less and 36% deaths less.
55:12 That’s another 300 deaths that, you know,
55:16 maybe we could have done something about.
55:21 So I just think this is a good real life explanation
55:26 and let’s continue to save lives.
55:28 And I applaud the efforts of everyone here
55:31 and understand that even the people on opposing sides
55:35 care about their children
55:37 and care about their family members.
55:40 And so let’s save some lives.
55:43 - Thank you, Scott.
55:47 Matt.
55:50 - Well, thank you for your service.
55:51 I do appreciate it.
55:53 My name is Matt Wojciechowski, registered publican.
55:57 I have a doctorate in engineering
56:01 and I’m a registered professional engineer
56:02 in three states.
56:04 That makes me an expert witness in the court.
56:07 - Hey Matt, can you just move that mic
56:08 a little bit closer to you?
56:10 I’m sorry.
56:11 Yeah, perfect. - Will that work?
56:12 - Yes, thank you.
56:13 - Okay, I’m a registered professional engineer
56:15 in three states, which makes me a person
56:18 that can testify in a court of law as an expert.
56:21 And myself and my fellow professional engineers
56:23 take that very seriously.
56:27 It’s a great burden to do that and it’s difficult.
56:31 I have 15 issued utility patents.
56:34 These are real inventions.
56:37 They are not the same patents that you hear about
56:39 on the home shopping network.
56:42 I’ve also worked in filtration for a number of years
56:46 and I wanna talk to you about filters.
56:48 First of all, there is a screen filter.
56:50 This is the kind of filter that you use in your screen door
56:52 and it allows things to be stopped
56:55 that are bigger than the mesh and things to go through
56:58 that are smaller than the mesh.
57:00 Another type of filter is a depth filter.
57:02 They use a torturous path to trap particles
57:05 and they rely on thickness of material.
57:15 These are the type of filters that you use in your car,
57:19 in your furnace and COVID masks.
57:22 To give you an example, a COVID mask rating
57:26 is approximately 0.1 microns.
57:29 That’s one 10th of a millionth of a meter.
57:34 Particles that it trapped or the COVID virus
57:36 is approximately 0.125 microns,
57:40 which is about 25% larger than a torturous path
57:43 of the filter that you have on right now.
57:49 So you are protected by these type of masks
57:53 in your house, in your car and walking around.
57:58 As far as the school system precedent
58:00 goes for protecting the unprotected,
58:01 I’ll cite an example from my high school days.
58:05 Initially, we had smoking lounges in our high school.
58:08 When the relationship of cancer to smoking was developed,
58:12 the faculty of that high school
58:16 took out the smoking lounges,
58:18 didn’t want the kids to smoke anymore.
58:19 So they were protecting the unprotected.
58:22 They believed it was their duty and acted positively.
58:26 Part of the sworn responsibility you have
58:28 are to protect our children.
58:30 I’d like you to do that.
58:33 Any questions?
58:35 - Thank you, Matt.
58:36 We appreciate you joining us.
58:38 As Jamison is approaching, the next three speakers after
58:42 will be Reese Ledwa, Cheryl Wojciechowski and Katie Delaney.
58:47 - Hi, my name is Jamison.
58:49 I’m in second grade.
58:50 I think masks are important.
58:52 Last time when only one out of four people were for masks,
58:55 I was very unhappy.
58:57 And now three people voted for masks.
58:59 I would like to make the votes five to zero for masks.
59:02 I’d like everybody to please listen to the mask rule
59:05 and wear a mask directly when inside.
59:08 I would feel much safer if I saw everyone listening
59:11 to the teacher from wearing their mask.
59:13 Thank you for those of you who voted for masks
59:15 for trying to keep us safe and healthy.
59:21 - Thank you, Jamison.
59:24 Reese.
59:29 - Hi, my name is Reese.
59:31 I’m nine years old in the fourth grade
59:32 in Brevard Public Schools.
59:34 I wanted to say thank you for making us safe,
59:37 for giving us masks back to us.
59:39 Everyone is very stressed about everything
59:41 about the masking in Brevard Public Schools.
59:43 I think masks should be continued.
59:46 This virus creates things that should not be
59:48 in our everyday lives.
59:50 Infections are rising every day
59:51 and that is because everyone isn’t wearing masks.
59:55 I was really worried about it
59:56 when everyone wasn’t wearing masks,
59:58 but now I feel much safer with everyone wearing masks.
1:00:03 The Delta variant is very dangerous
1:00:05 and two times more contagious.
1:00:07 There are over 3 million cases in Florida
1:00:09 and many have been children.
1:00:11 The schools are full of children that could get infected
1:00:13 and that can have serious consequences.
1:00:16 Masks are vital to everyone’s health.
1:00:19 If we wear them, then this COVID pandemic will cease.
1:00:22 This pandemic is very dangerous,
1:00:24 but if we all work together, wear masks,
1:00:27 social distance and sanitize,
1:00:29 then this pandemic can stop
1:00:30 and everyone can rejoice with friends and family.
1:00:33 Thank you for your time.
1:00:35 - Thank you, Reese.
1:00:37 Cheryl.
1:00:41 - Hi, my name is Dr. Cheryl Wojcicki.
1:00:43 I’m mom of two kids who attend school in Brevard County.
1:00:47 Members of the school board,
1:00:48 thank you for reinstating masks.
1:00:50 I know it was a difficult decision.
1:00:53 For some board members,
1:00:53 I know it wasn’t your initial choice,
1:00:55 but when it happened, you respected it
1:00:57 and complied with the regulation.
1:00:59 Thank you for that.
1:01:00 I think this is a wonderful example for our children.
1:01:03 I can tell you now that I have a little boy
1:01:04 and a little girl who are much less afraid to go to school.
1:01:07 I’m still nervous sending them, of course,
1:01:09 and I know the homeschool option is there,
1:01:12 but my two kids need to be with their friends and teachers.
1:01:14 They learn better that way,
1:01:15 and now it’s much less of a risk to their health.
1:01:19 For the past 15 years, under four presidents,
1:01:22 I’ve worked as a scientist for the State Department
1:01:24 and the United States Agency for International Development.
1:01:27 Part of my job, I negotiate with Arab and Israeli scientists
1:01:31 and help them work together
1:01:32 to comply with US regulations, international research
1:01:34 regulations.
1:01:36 Unfortunately, the attentions that I’ve experienced
1:01:38 in this room before and after these meetings
1:01:41 are much more stressful than any interaction I’ve ever felt
1:01:43 between Arab and Israeli scientists.
1:01:46 I myself have let this tension get under my skin,
1:01:49 and I apologize for that.
1:01:51 I have a proposition.
1:01:53 Members of the school board,
1:01:54 I don’t think you want to see this tension
1:01:56 between your constituents.
1:01:58 I’d like to extend an invitation to you
1:02:01 and your constituents to write FFSS.Bravard@gmail.com.
1:02:07 I would like to have a calm, short virtual conversation
1:02:11 to see if we can agree on ground rules
1:02:13 and establish a respectable decorum from here on out.
1:02:17 We won’t agree on some things,
1:02:19 but I know that we all love our kids
1:02:22 and want to show them the best example
1:02:24 of how adults behave when they disagree.
1:02:28 With good intentions only, please, FFSS.Bravard@gmail.com.
1:02:33 Thank you for your time and your service.
1:02:35 - Thank you.
1:02:37 As Katie is approaching, our next three speakers
1:02:39 will be Chris Paganoni, Danielle McDonough, and Joey Oliva.
1:02:47 Katie.
1:02:49 - Members of the board, your COVID mitigations
1:02:52 are failing students of Brevard County.
1:02:54 I am speaking tonight for a local healthcare worker
1:02:58 that cannot be here today.
1:03:01 She has done all the things you’ve asked of her.
1:03:03 Her daughter is vaccinated.
1:03:05 She wore a mask even before, I’m sorry,
1:03:09 even when it wasn’t illegally being mandated.
1:03:13 Yet, she was forced to quarantine,
1:03:17 even though she was well past the threshold
1:03:21 of the two-week policy.
1:03:23 During that time, since there was no e-learning
1:03:29 and no work was sent home,
1:03:33 her straight A student got marked
1:03:34 with multiple zeros for participation grades
1:03:37 while under a forced quarantine, resulting in two Fs.
1:03:42 Again, this child is vaccinated and she wore a mask.
1:03:46 Your policy and failure to implement or maintain it
1:03:51 has yet again failed another child.
1:03:54 You all should be ashamed.
1:03:57 The mother is still fighting with the school
1:03:59 to make it right.
1:04:02 That brings me to my next topic, the achievement gap.
1:04:06 Here we are on month two and we still have members
1:04:09 of the board focusing more on COVID mitigations
1:04:12 that don’t work instead of their bigger failure,
1:04:17 the widening achievement gap.
1:04:19 I have sent many of you multiple emails, phone calls,
1:04:23 voicemails about the achievement gap,
1:04:27 never getting a response.
1:04:29 Is it that you don’t care?
1:04:34 If you did, you would return an email or you would make some
1:04:42 kind of effort outside of
1:04:44 claiming that it’s the fault of teachers unknown bias.
1:04:58 Now I would like to put on public record that our COVID numbers
1:05:03 in the schools have been
1:05:04 continuously going down according to your dashboard over the
1:05:08 past three weeks.
1:05:09 And I want to point out that that was prior to the mask mandate
1:05:13 coming into effect, which
1:05:14 was just Tuesday.
1:05:18 In conclusion, many times in the student code of conduct that is
1:05:22 on tonight’s agenda, it
1:05:24 speaks of respect for one another, it speaks of privacy, anti-bullying,
1:05:28 and so on and so
1:05:29 forth.
1:05:31 Yet when multiple reports of students being refused entry to the
1:05:35 school, bullying by administration,
1:05:37 and food being refused, BPS did not stand by their students.
1:05:41 Instead, they insinuated that they were lying.
1:05:47 You three should be ashamed.
1:05:48 Katie, have a great day.
1:05:54 Chris?
1:05:55 Hi there, my name is Christopher Paganoni.
1:06:01 I am actually here to talk about data and information.
1:06:07 One of the things that I’ve had a problem with is getting actual
1:06:10 data from the school
1:06:11 board and from the county regarding the number of cases per
1:06:15 school.
1:06:16 And I keep hearing the word PII being used.
1:06:20 I am a professional certified systems engineer.
1:06:25 I hold the CISSP.
1:06:26 My number is 579277.
1:06:29 That makes me an expert witness in information protection.
1:06:33 So, let’s talk about the PII issue.
1:06:38 Under the NIST SP800-122, that is the actual document number.
1:06:45 The name is for the guide for protection of PII.
1:06:49 It clearly delineates that there’s only two ways to get to
1:06:53 identifying a student or a
1:06:55 person by information.
1:06:58 Those two ways are either by direct method or through indirect.
1:07:03 Releasing according to the Department of Education’s Student
1:07:07 Privacy Policy Office on their memo
1:07:09 March 2020, they were asked directly, “Can you release the
1:07:13 number of cases per school?”
1:07:15 And they said, “Generally, yes.
1:07:17 It is not an issue of PII,” according to them.
1:07:20 It’s clearly delineated that a reasonable person, if they cannot
1:07:25 arrive at the identity
1:07:27 of the individual, then you have no PII condition.
1:07:32 PII, by definition, is when its distinguishing identity is your
1:07:36 name, social security number,
1:07:38 date of birth, place of birth, your parents’ identification.
1:07:42 Indirect or linkable information is known for weight, sex, age,
1:07:48 very specific information.
1:07:50 The key here is that when you say, “I had a student out of
1:07:54 school for COVID,” in this
1:07:55 specific school, if you’re not releasing how many other students
1:07:59 are out that day for other
1:08:01 causes, you have nothing to go with.
1:08:04 There is no PII there.
1:08:06 It would not hold up in a court of law.
1:08:10 And that is my professional opinion.
1:08:11 So I would like to ask the Board to please give us the PII
1:08:17 numbers by day or as often
1:08:19 as you report them.
1:08:20 Like day, every three days, every five days, or every seven days,
1:08:24 but it can be by school
1:08:26 because that tells us what’s happening in the school and it also
1:08:29 will help you guys
1:08:29 see specifically if you have a school that’s going out of
1:08:33 control, you can tactically affect
1:08:36 it.
1:08:37 Instead of sitting here in blanket and saying, “We’ve got 500
1:08:40 students across the county
1:08:40 that are sick,” I’d like to know if 300 of those students were
1:08:45 in one school or they
1:08:46 spread in large numbers, where you have other schools that are
1:08:50 at zero.
1:08:51 You can also parse this information from how many students you’re
1:08:55 quarantining, so not
1:08:56 really getting anything from your PII.
1:08:59 Thank you very much.
1:09:00 Thank you.
1:09:01 Danielle?
1:09:02 Hi there.
1:09:03 I’m Danielle McDonough, Dr. McDonough.
1:09:04 I’m a nurse practitioner.
1:09:05 As you guys know, you’ve heard me speak before, I want to say
1:09:12 thank you for bringing masks
1:09:15 back into the school.
1:09:17 My children all say thank you.
1:09:20 I’d like to just say that I think it’s really evident in this
1:09:23 week’s dashboard by the fact
1:09:25 that kids started wearing masks in school immediately after the
1:09:29 mandate was put into
1:09:30 effect.
1:09:31 My daughter’s class of 24 students in fifth grade at Meadow Lane,
1:09:36 an interior classroom,
1:09:37 had 100% compliance.
1:09:40 Her teacher was already wearing a mask.
1:09:43 Unfortunately, students had already been in the classroom with
1:09:46 COVID and a large number
1:09:48 of kids ended up quarantined by the end of the week, but
1:09:51 fortunately they’re all going
1:09:53 back to school now.
1:09:55 But I think looking at the dashboard of a Monday a week prior, I
1:09:58 think there was over
1:10:00 500 cases compared to this week where there was just a little
1:10:05 more over 100 cases, I think
1:10:07 it’s really evident that masks work.
1:10:12 We can’t continue to have this battle every two weeks.
1:10:15 We can’t continue to have this battle every month.
1:10:18 You guys teach math and you teach science.
1:10:24 You teach the kids statistics in high school.
1:10:28 If you’re going to teach the subjects, then we should be
1:10:31 teaching the kids that we understand
1:10:34 how to utilize this information.
1:10:36 We should follow the science and we should follow the math.
1:10:40 It’s real data, it’s not made up.
1:10:44 The people in the hospital are not imaginary, they’re real, they’re
1:10:48 human beings.
1:10:49 They’re related to somebody who lives in our community.
1:10:52 When somebody says that their family member died, we should have
1:10:56 empathy for that.
1:10:57 We shouldn’t say people die.
1:11:00 Sadly, that’s what I’m hearing in our community and it needs to
1:11:04 end.
1:11:05 We need to set an example as a community and say that we
1:11:08 understand the science, we’re
1:11:09 going to follow the science, and we’re going to wear masks in
1:11:12 school where kids aren’t
1:11:13 vaccinated.
1:11:15 When you want to lift the mask mandate, my 11-year-old child’s
1:11:18 not old enough for a vaccine,
1:11:20 but we vaccinate against chickenpox because chickenpox causes a
1:11:25 loss of learning days.
1:11:27 Why would we not wear a mask to protect against loss of learning
1:11:30 days?
1:11:31 We need to keep the kids in school and we need to keep them
1:11:35 healthy and safe.
1:11:36 We need to make a plan going forward.
1:11:39 At what point is it safe to remove the mask mandate?
1:11:43 At what point would you have to reinstate the mask mandate?
1:11:47 At what point is the vaccination level in the community
1:11:51 sufficient enough?
1:11:52 That is a plan that the board should be working on going forward
1:11:55 so we don’t have to come
1:11:57 back to this conversation at every meeting.
1:12:00 I thank you for your time.
1:12:01 I thank you for everything you’re doing.
1:12:02 Have a good night.
1:12:03 Thanks, Danielle.
1:12:04 As Joey is approaching, our next three speakers will be Sarah
1:12:09 Schiavaro, Matthew Dolly, and
1:12:12 then Heather Peterson.
1:12:13 Joey?
1:12:14 First, I want to say thank you to the two board members who had
1:12:17 the courage to vote
1:12:18 no on the mask mandate.
1:12:20 We will not forget, should you decide to run for re-election, at
1:12:23 the emergency meeting,
1:12:24 one of the board members volunteered her political party
1:12:27 affiliation as Democrat and then stated
1:12:29 that her decision was not political, but the only explanation I
1:12:32 could come up with as to
1:12:33 why you would vote for a mandate when the facts and data
1:12:36 contradict that decision would
1:12:37 be that it’s political.
1:12:38 So when I look to political reasons as to why somebody would
1:12:41 make a decision to mask
1:12:42 an innocent child and put that unnecessary responsibility and
1:12:46 burden onto them, I came
1:12:47 across a study at Dartmouth University that determined that the
1:12:50 liberal media negatively
1:12:51 skewed over 90% of their stories to exaggerate the fear of the
1:12:55 COVID pandemic, regardless
1:12:57 of what the data and the science were saying at the time.
1:12:59 And in the words of the CNN producer caught on hidden tape by
1:13:04 Project Veritas, fear sells.
1:13:06 Then I found a Gallup survey that interviewed Democrats and
1:13:08 Republicans to determine their
1:13:09 understanding of the harms of COVID.
1:13:11 The data shows that chances of being hospitalized as you get COVID
1:13:14 is somewhere between 1 to
1:13:16 5%, which means that one in five people out of 100 who get COVID
1:13:21 could end up in the hospital.
1:13:23 But 41% of Democrats surveyed believe that 50%, that’s one out
1:13:27 of every two people who
1:13:28 get COVID go to the hospital, and another 28% of Democrats
1:13:31 believe that 20 to 49% of
1:13:33 people who get COVID will be in the hospital.
1:13:35 So almost 70% of Democrats surveyed believe that one out of
1:13:39 every five people who get
1:13:40 COVID end up in the hospital.
1:13:42 The next study was my absolute favorite.
1:13:44 It found that white liberals are more prone to mental health
1:13:47 disorders than individuals
1:13:48 who identify as conservatives or moderate.
1:13:50 62% of white who classify themselves as very liberal or liberal
1:13:55 have been told by a doctor
1:13:56 they have a mental health condition as compared to only 26% of
1:14:00 conservatives.
1:14:01 They found that that reasoning behind this was that the constant
1:14:05 misinformation from
1:14:06 liberal media, which they referred to as panic porn, creates unwarranted
1:14:11 fear and stress.
1:14:12 So if you’re angry like I am and confused as to why we cannot
1:14:15 get through to certain
1:14:17 board members using facts, scientific data, and critical
1:14:20 thinking, the data shows there’s
1:14:22 a high possibility you are trying to reason with a highly misinformed
1:14:25 individual who might
1:14:26 have a mental disorder who cannot make rational decisions
1:14:29 because they are driven by one thing
1:14:30 and that is fear.
1:14:34 Which explains why one of our board members sat in a plastic box
1:14:38 for almost a year last
1:14:39 year and while they were six feet apart from each other probably
1:14:42 vaccinated more mass the
1:14:43 entire time.
1:14:45 So the problem that we really have here is a virus of the mind,
1:14:47 and I have a suggestion
1:14:49 to fix this problem, which is to the one board member who’s so
1:14:52 concerned about racial equity
1:14:53 and inclusion as I stare up at a board with zero racial
1:14:56 diversity, I think it’s time for
1:14:57 her to lead by example, acknowledge her white privilege, put her
1:15:00 money where her mouth is,
1:15:01 and step down as a board member to allow her position to be
1:15:04 filled by a person of color.
1:15:06 We wouldn’t want any racist hypocrites on the board now, would
1:15:09 we?
1:15:09 And since I still have six seconds, all three of my kids got COVID,
1:15:12 they had a fever for
1:15:13 her day and cough like three times.
1:15:23 Sarah, I’m Sarah, I’m a Brevard County resident, taxpayer,
1:15:31 registered voter, stakeholder, and
1:15:35 I’m a mom of two children in BPS.
1:15:38 The COVID-19 BPS dashboard shows numbers going down and that is
1:15:41 a wonderful thing.
1:15:43 I don’t want anyone to get sick and I’ve helped people get
1:15:46 connected with medical professionals
1:15:48 and treatments that worked well, incredibly well.
1:15:51 My family and I continue to pray for those who are sick to get
1:15:54 well sick.
1:15:54 Unfortunately, this illegal mask mandate isn’t about science,
1:15:57 health, or safety, but about
1:15:59 money, power, and control.
1:16:01 I based that statement on the panel of one-sided experts you
1:16:04 brought in saying that no matter
1:16:05 if there’s a mask mandate in place or not, there’s going to be
1:16:09 community spread.
1:16:10 You didn’t listen to them by not keeping mask wearing a parental
1:16:14 choice.
1:16:15 This is a passionate issue, but the focus needs to be getting
1:16:19 back to education.
1:16:20 How we do that is keeping masks a parental choice.
1:16:23 You didn’t get voted in based on emotion, but to make choices
1:16:26 based on fact and the
1:16:28 law.
1:16:29 I’m a law abiding citizen.
1:16:30 This is a legal issue.
1:16:32 You created a big legal mess for the BPS system instead of
1:16:35 allowing the judicial system to
1:16:37 play out and being guided by the laws you are held to.
1:16:40 Since three board members moved forward with this unprecedented,
1:16:45 unlawful vote to enact
1:16:46 an illegal mandate for the BPS district, then those members who
1:16:49 supported this deliberate
1:16:51 attack against a functioning and reputable school system must be
1:16:54 held accountable.
1:16:55 I, as well as many others, feel you have broken your corporate
1:16:59 fiduciary responsibility that
1:17:01 undermines the efficacy of the entire school system.
1:17:04 Three board members chose to put our children in this illegal
1:17:08 and stable situation, not
1:17:09 the parents.
1:17:10 This illegal and stable situation is taking a mental health toll
1:17:14 on our children and families
1:17:15 with four weeks into the school year, now facing difficult
1:17:18 choices and leaving hundreds
1:17:19 of families scrambling, confused, and illegal back and forth
1:17:23 with our children in the middle
1:17:25 and taking the brunt of it.
1:17:27 Those on the board who choose to vote and supported a board-wide
1:17:31 vote on an illegal
1:17:32 mask mandate have created an environment with this that
1:17:35 questions your ability to act independently
1:17:37 as a board member, and I request you do the right thing and undo
1:17:40 this policy immediately.
1:17:42 I am not challenging your authority to vote.
1:17:44 I have lost faith in your ability to make a lawful and
1:17:48 independent decision.
1:17:50 The illegality of enacting this policy and the downfall of it
1:17:53 was well laid out by your
1:17:54 vice chair.
1:17:56 Independently and as a board, you need to let your yes be yes
1:17:59 and your no be no.
1:18:00 If you are unable to make a decision and stick with it, it is feckless
1:18:03 and untrustworthy
1:18:04 leadership.
1:18:05 Thank you.
1:18:07 Matthew Dolly.
1:18:10 Hello, my name is Matthew.
1:18:18 Thank you for having me, village idiot.
1:18:22 So the first thing I want to talk about to the public, if you’re
1:18:25 a member of the public
1:18:26 and you engage and act or believe in using any kind of
1:18:30 intimidation, whether it be through
1:18:32 verbal or physical actions or destruction of property, I’m going
1:18:37 to say this publicly
1:18:38 now.
1:18:39 You are not on my side.
1:18:40 I do not care what political alignment you have.
1:18:43 I do not agree with such actions and I never will stand beside
1:18:47 you or behind you with that
1:18:49 kind of demeanor.
1:18:51 Furthermore, to speak to the public from some of the stuff I’ve
1:18:53 heard tonight, I might agree
1:18:55 with some discontent or some feelings, the five, six people that
1:19:01 sit in front of you
1:19:02 at this school board are not mentally ill.
1:19:04 As a matter of fact, they are highly intelligent and if you
1:19:07 think of them as mentally ill,
1:19:09 you’re going to lose.
1:19:11 These are very smart people that sit in front of you.
1:19:13 That being said, the choice that they made to mandate the mask
1:19:18 was 100% a political choice.
1:19:20 They were smart enough to wait until a judge’s decision was made
1:19:23 that made the legality of
1:19:24 this gray so they could get their foot in the door and wait.
1:19:28 They are not stupid, they are smart.
1:19:30 That being said, I am disappointed in the board to allow
1:19:35 politics to come involved into
1:19:37 a decision like this.
1:19:39 I have spoken in front of you a handful of times and every time
1:19:43 I have darned or begged
1:19:44 of you, I’ve even yelled at the crowd for you.
1:19:48 I know that some of the people here do not behave right, but
1:19:51 that being said, the people
1:19:52 here that don’t behave right, it reflects the leadership in this
1:19:56 room.
1:19:56 If you do not like how we act, display better leadership, okay?
1:20:01 This was not about health, it was not about safety because there’s
1:20:04 so many numbers that
1:20:05 go both ways.
1:20:06 This was a political decision.
1:20:08 I am not dumb, I may not be as highly intelligent as you, but I
1:20:12 am not dumb, so don’t insult
1:20:14 my intelligence and I won’t insult yours.
1:20:17 That being said, you made a political decision that threw a rift
1:20:20 through this community.
1:20:22 You got people out in the parking lot screaming at each other
1:20:25 and it’s because of you five.
1:20:26 You did this.
1:20:27 And I’m going to end with saying this, as one of you may know
1:20:30 because I believe you’re
1:20:31 a history teacher, the elected bodies historically that side
1:20:39 with compulsion are evil.
1:20:42 I’m not saying you’re evil, but the decisions are evil.
1:20:46 It’s not you that I fear, it is the medical doctor that stands
1:20:50 up here in his public comments
1:20:52 and tells people that unmasked and unvaccinated children are a
1:20:56 risk.
1:20:57 That is asinine.
1:20:58 To the children that are here with their parents, you got a good
1:21:02 mom.
1:21:03 I don’t agree with what she said, you got a good mom.
1:21:06 You need to listen to her, you need to follow her example.
1:21:09 But if you see my children in school without wearing a mask,
1:21:12 they’re not a danger.
1:21:13 They’re healthy because I’m smart enough to make sure that my
1:21:16 kids don’t put other people
1:21:18 at risk.
1:21:19 Heather Peterson and then after Heather, we have Tracy Kefiro,
1:21:28 Jabari Hosey and then Cheyenne
1:21:31 Dryden.
1:21:32 And then we may take a break.
1:21:37 We’ll see.
1:21:38 My name is Heather Peterson.
1:21:39 My husband and I are residents of Brevard County for eight years
1:21:43 now.
1:21:44 We have three children in the BPS system, 15, 13 and eight years
1:21:48 old.
1:21:48 I am here today to put you on notice that continued illegal
1:21:52 behavior of this school
1:21:54 board will stop.
1:21:56 You will be replaced and none of us will stop until it’s
1:21:59 accomplished.
1:22:00 The sole purpose of your job is to ensure a quality education
1:22:05 for my children and you’re
1:22:07 failing on a massive scale.
1:22:09 You work for me.
1:22:11 You do not get to decide anything on behalf of my children in
1:22:16 any other capacity other
1:22:18 than education.
1:22:21 The last school board meeting you called, I had been admitted to
1:22:25 the hospital with code
1:22:26 and pneumonia because I have asthma.
1:22:29 And instead of concentrating on healing and getting home to my
1:22:34 family, I was forced to
1:22:35 deal with the illegal decisions of this tyrannical school board
1:22:39 who thought that they had the
1:22:41 right to strip me from my parental rights to make decisions for
1:22:45 my children.
1:22:46 Thank goodness I had the support of the Moms for Liberty to find
1:22:49 the exemptions that I
1:22:50 needed for my children.
1:22:53 You made the decision, despite the fact that there has yet one
1:22:58 study to prove that masks
1:23:01 work.
1:23:02 The CDC’s own website studies cite that it is inconclusive.
1:23:10 How disgusting that your own lawyer holds you, it’s illegal to
1:23:15 vote yes, and yet you
1:23:17 did it anyway.
1:23:19 You have allowed politics to severely cloud your judgment and
1:23:23 not do what’s best for our
1:23:24 children’s education.
1:23:26 You have woken something in this community.
1:23:30 It’s not going away.
1:23:32 We will not forget and we will not stop fighting for our rights
1:23:36 and liberties.
1:23:38 I’ve always taught my children that their choices have
1:23:42 consequences, and you ladies,
1:23:44 they’re coming.
1:23:45 All right, Tracey.
1:24:14 Hi, my name is Jabari Hosey, I’m speaking in regards to the
1:24:26 action that took place with
1:24:32 the emergency meeting.
1:24:33 I want to thank the three school board members directly for
1:24:37 taking the necessary action and
1:24:39 protecting our kids during this pandemic with universal masking
1:24:43 in schools.
1:24:44 That was a courageous move that has now potentially has saved
1:24:48 lives.
1:24:49 I also want to thank the school board member, though she did not
1:24:52 support the motion but
1:24:53 complied with it immediately and gave us an example to follow,
1:24:56 but not shouting or complaining
1:24:58 about a new rule in place.
1:25:00 I also want to thank the superintendent for taking necessary
1:25:03 action, responding to disinformation
1:25:05 and allowing universal masking to happen as efficiently and
1:25:09 effectively as possible.
1:25:11 The three of you didn’t fold to political persuasion or fear,
1:25:14 but instead followed the
1:25:15 science and the data to do what is best, and that leaves me with
1:25:19 one last member who chose
1:25:20 fiction over fact, politics over people, pandering over
1:25:27 protection.
1:25:28 This individual aligns himself with another political figure who
1:25:31 doesn’t live in his district.
1:25:34 That political figure does not, you do not live in that
1:25:37 political figure’s district.
1:25:38 His career is now muddied with hypocrisy and hesitancy, lies and
1:25:43 this truth.
1:25:45 You are supposed to represent me, work with students and parents
1:25:48 that live in your district,
1:25:50 but clearly we don’t matter.
1:25:53 I wish you well as you travel down your political downward
1:25:56 spiral, and I thank the majority
1:25:58 of the board for taking the necessary action to protect our
1:26:02 children and the 1400 plus
1:26:04 members of families for safe schools also who are parents,
1:26:07 grandparents, and many members
1:26:09 of the community as we continue to grow as a group.
1:26:11 Also, thank you.
1:26:13 Appreciate it.
1:26:14 Thank you, Jabari.
1:26:17 I had a request for a recess from board members.
1:26:21 We have 12, huh?
1:26:25 Yeah, we can take, we have Cheyenne Dryden still in here.
1:26:29 Cheyenne, if you would like to approach and then we’ll take a
1:26:31 break after Cheyenne and
1:26:32 then finish out our public comment, okay?
1:26:43 They don’t have to be quiet.
1:26:44 They can talk.
1:26:45 Please set people in.
1:26:46 I actually emailed all five board members about Tuesday.
1:27:02 I picked him up from school.
1:27:05 He had a [inaudible] that happens at 10 o’clock.
1:27:10 And then he went to class and sent it into his math.
1:27:16 Okay.
1:27:17 Say it.
1:27:18 Peace, mommy.
1:27:19 Good job.
1:27:20 I never see, I received an auto response from Ms. Bielford, but
1:27:26 that’s it.
1:27:28 Nobody wants to get back to why kindergarteners, who did this
1:27:34 all day?
1:27:35 That’s what they’re doing all day.
1:27:36 His whole class all day is pick up your mask, oh, fix your mask,
1:27:43 fix your mask.
1:27:45 No more.
1:27:46 There’s a high schooler who’s scared to take her mask off
1:27:50 because she’s going to get bullied
1:27:52 by her teachers, teachers, not students, adult bullying 15 year
1:27:59 olds.
1:28:00 It’s not okay.
1:28:02 They’re not mask police.
1:28:05 They’re underpaid, we’re understaffed, and you guys want them to
1:28:09 do more constantly.
1:28:11 You don’t respect your teachers that you’re saying you’re doing
1:28:15 it for.
1:28:15 You care about the students.
1:28:16 Why aren’t you guys in the schools more, do more for the school,
1:28:22 provide them with proper
1:28:24 PPE if that’s what you want them to have.
1:28:29 His education’s being disrupted.
1:28:31 My high schooler missed 17 days of school.
1:28:33 She went to eight days this year.
1:28:35 I’m going to have to leave because of the pandemic, but that’s
1:28:42 my point, okay?
1:28:44 Thank you, Cheyenne.
1:28:45 All right, board members, we’re going to take a brief recess,
1:28:50 and then we will come back
1:28:52 and finish out our public comment, okay?
1:29:03 Thank you.
1:41:38 All right, we are back in session.
1:41:41 We’ll finish up the remainder of our public speakers.
1:41:43 I just want to remind our audience that the speaker’s time is
1:41:46 the speaker’s time.
1:41:48 We shouldn’t be hearing from the audience during the speaker’s
1:41:51 time in support or against,
1:41:52 nor should we be hearing after the speaker is finished so that
1:41:55 the next person can hear
1:41:57 what’s going on and get to the mic, okay?
1:42:00 Our next three speakers are going to be Ron McClellan, Julia
1:42:08 Anton and Josana Oakwood.
1:42:23 Thank you.
1:42:37 I apologize for not being able to be here during the emergency
1:42:39 meeting.
1:42:40 Unfortunately, the coronavirus made two appearances at my house.
1:42:42 So I appreciate the vote.
1:42:44 I appreciate the stress that you are under.
1:42:46 As I was listening, I heard a familiar term.
1:42:48 Critical race theory.
1:42:52 A representative of those whose parents or maybe even their
1:42:55 grandparents didn’t say hello
1:42:57 the same way that you and I do.
1:43:00 They might say hola.
1:43:01 They might say bonjour.
1:43:02 They might say konichiwa.
1:43:03 They might say gin dobre or maybe even God forbid, as-salamu alaykum.
1:43:11 You see, while we’re here in America, we have liberties.
1:43:18 There’s a collection of individuals that have dedicated
1:43:21 themselves to liberty.
1:43:23 But we also have liberty to be free from xenophobia, free from
1:43:28 sexism, discrimination.
1:43:31 So I want to be unambiguously clear that critical race theory
1:43:36 should not be taught in school
1:43:39 because it isn’t.
1:43:41 It should remain in graduate level schools where it is.
1:43:45 I want to encourage the board to follow Governor DeSantis’s
1:43:51 order.
1:43:52 Teach fair, unbiased history.
1:43:54 So in other words, if you’re going to teach it, teach it all.
1:43:58 Teach why we had to have a 13th and 14th amendment.
1:44:02 Teach why we had to have a constitutional amendment just to give
1:44:05 women the right to vote.
1:44:07 Teach why we just got the Equal Rights Amendment ratified last
1:44:13 year.
1:44:14 If you’re going to teach it, teach it all.
1:44:17 Teach why after Pearl Harbor, we rounded up Japanese Americans
1:44:23 and put them in internment camps.
1:44:25 One of those families had the last name Takai.
1:44:27 They had a son named George from right north from Star Trek.
1:44:31 Yo, we locked up Sulu.
1:44:34 I mean, Sulu.
1:44:36 But if you notice, I said we because I share that history too.
1:44:43 As Americans, as board members, we must reconcile our past, the
1:44:49 dark days of our past, to the brighter days that are ahead.
1:44:54 I look forward to engaging with you and speaking with you in the
1:44:57 weeks ahead.
1:44:58 Matter of fact, I’m going to be here so much, you’re going to
1:45:01 think I’m a piece of furniture.
1:45:03 And with that, I yield back.
1:45:05 Thank you, Madam Chair.
1:45:06 Thank you, Ron. Have a great night.
1:45:08 Julia.
1:45:13 I am reading from the Parents Bill of Rights.
1:45:20 And it says, infringement of parental rights, the state, any of
1:45:26 its political subdivisions or any governmental entity or any
1:45:31 other institution may not infringe on the fundamental rights of
1:45:36 a parent to direct the upbringing, education, health care, and
1:45:40 mental health of his or her minor child.
1:45:42 It doesn’t stop there.
1:45:47 It also says, I mean, without demonstrating that such action is
1:45:53 reasonable and necessary to achieve a compelling state interest.
1:45:59 And that such action is narrowly tailored and is not otherwise
1:46:05 served by a less restrictive means.
1:46:09 It didn’t stop before the word unless.
1:46:13 It continued with the word unless.
1:46:17 And it established that if there is a compelling state interest
1:46:22 that you can show, then you have the right to make decisions.
1:46:29 And for the life of me, I cannot figure out any reason why
1:46:34 anyone with integrity would have read that.
1:46:39 And heard the judge rule on it and rule on it again.
1:46:45 And stand here and quote Lawyer Google or quote Steve Bannon or
1:46:50 whoever they’re getting it from and claim that your decision was
1:46:56 illegal.
1:46:57 Now, there is zero integrity in claiming that that was an
1:47:02 illegal decision.
1:47:04 And when they come at you and they yell at you that you’re fired
1:47:09 and they’re going to take your job because you made that legal
1:47:14 decision,
1:47:15 they’re making an assumption about your integrity and they’re
1:47:18 assuming that you have none.
1:47:20 They’re assuming that you’re so power hungry that you would put
1:47:24 children’s lives at stake just to keep your job on the board.
1:47:29 Now, if someone comes up to you and says, put people’s risk at
1:47:34 lives for me.
1:47:35 Put people’s lives at risk because I want you. There’s only one
1:47:39 response to that.
1:47:40 You look them in the eye and you roar at them and you say, not
1:47:44 know that.
1:47:45 Oh, heck no. I’m not doing that.
1:47:49 Now, they’re here making noise. But they’re not the only
1:47:54 citizens in Brevard County.
1:47:56 They don’t represent the people who are immune compromised and
1:47:59 can’t come to this petri dish of an event.
1:48:02 They don’t represent the thousands of people who have signed
1:48:06 petitions for.
1:48:08 There’s a lot of people they don’t represent, and that includes
1:48:12 me.
1:48:13 Some of us value integrity. We value lives. We value and take.
1:48:19 Thank you, Julia. All right.
1:48:22 They found out. And then after that, we have Cindy Martin,
1:48:25 Aurora Shainer and then Melissa Hanson.
1:48:28 They found out Oakland. No.
1:48:34 All right. Cindy Martin.
1:48:41 No, Cindy Martin, either.
1:48:51 Thank you very much. Good evening, everyone. Thanks for being
1:48:55 here. Thank you to the two board members who oppose the mask
1:48:59 mandate.
1:49:00 The Miami Herald reports today that yesterday, George Judge
1:49:04 Cooper lifted an automatic stay that had been triggered when the
1:49:08 DeSantis administration appealed.
1:49:10 The September 2nd ruling to the first District Court of Appeal.
1:49:14 The motion filed Wednesday night requested that the Tallahassee
1:49:18 base appeals court reimpose the stay while the underlying battle
1:49:23 about the September 2nd ruling moves forward.
1:49:26 The motion contends, in part, that Cooper’s ruling violated
1:49:30 constitutional separation of powers and delved into policy and
1:49:34 political issues about whether schools could be allowed to
1:49:38 require masks.
1:49:40 As long as the mask mandate litigation continues, students have
1:49:44 the right to choose whether they wear a mask or not while
1:49:48 attending school.
1:49:50 Show me a legitimate study demonstrating that your mask are
1:49:54 effective in filtering out covid 19 viruses.
1:49:58 I haven’t seen one yet. There hasn’t been one produced yet. I’d
1:50:02 love to see it. I promise you I read every word and I would
1:50:07 share it.
1:50:08 I did send out one of the masks that your BPS schools provide
1:50:12 the students to an independent lab, and I am personally paying
1:50:16 for a report of efficacy of filtration for covid 19 and its
1:50:20 associated variant.
1:50:22 I’m happy to pay for that. I have some extra money. It’s going
1:50:25 to be six weeks before I receive that data for you. I’ll be
1:50:28 happy to share it.
1:50:30 Also, please be aware that the administration and teachers
1:50:34 bullying and retaliating against students with medical
1:50:37 exemptions will not be tolerated and legal action will be taken.
1:50:42 Some kids actually document these instances of bullying and
1:50:46 retaliation for their medical exemptions by teachers and staff
1:50:51 at BPS schools.
1:50:52 A lot of these kids have recording devices and they do record.
1:50:58 They also know how to use YouTube pretty well.
1:51:03 I’m sure you did hear about the Las Vegas substitute teacher who
1:51:07 taped a mask to her student’s face, which humiliated that
1:51:11 student in front of his classmates and caused irreparable harm
1:51:16 psychologically to him.
1:51:18 According to his statement, he knew of at least five other
1:51:22 students who endured such treatment by the teacher doing the
1:51:26 same type of thing to other students.
1:51:29 I predict that that will be litigated. We definitely don’t want
1:51:34 a situation whereby BPS is sued for conduct such as this.
1:51:38 This is a fantastic school system. I agree with the previous
1:51:41 speaker. I do believe that this board is extremely intelligent.
1:51:45 I also believe that the timing of Judge Cooper’s ruling is very
1:51:49 suspicious.
1:51:50 My fourth grade students are currently learning about government
1:52:03 and yet our very own local school government is letting our
1:52:10 children down by breaking the law.
1:52:13 In the social studies weekly last week, my fourth grader, my
1:52:17 fourth grader’s favorite question was, quote, what are some
1:52:21 common issues that face the state of Florida?
1:52:23 Close quote. His answer was, quote, current issues in Florida
1:52:27 are mask mandates in schools.
1:52:29 The Brevard School District board members broke the state of
1:52:36 Florida law by voting the mask mandates without parental opt out.
1:52:44 Florida House Bill 241, Parents Bill of Rights effective July 1st,
1:52:44 2021. Close quote.
1:52:44 I’m going to add that you not only broke the law, but you broke
1:52:47 their trust. And what you’ve done and continue to do is
1:52:50 unethical, unethical and unconstitutional.
1:52:53 My son said, why do I have to follow their school mask mandate
1:52:57 if they don’t follow the state law?
1:52:59 Our kids don’t need your permission to breathe oxygen. It’s a
1:53:02 God given right to all of us. The masks are not proven to
1:53:06 prevent the spreading of the virus.
1:53:08 Why are we quarantining healthy kids? A headache is not a reason
1:53:12 to send a child home for 10 days and miss on school.
1:53:15 It’s our mission as a school district to serve every student
1:53:19 with excellence. Then why are if that’s the you know, that’s the
1:53:23 question.
1:53:24 So then why are the kids having to pay for your lack of
1:53:27 excellence by not being allowed to breathe normal levels of
1:53:30 oxygen during their school hours?
1:53:32 Parents should be able to opt out without a doctor’s note. I
1:53:37 have my parental right to make medical decisions for my children,
1:53:42 not you, not other parents. No person should be mandated to do
1:53:46 anything. I’m anti mandate, especially not in this free country
1:53:48 of ours.
1:53:48 Not for a 99.9 survival rate virus. We are we all have an immune
1:53:54 system. How about mandating vitamins, fruits and vegetables? But
1:54:01 you know, I’m anti that anti mandate. So virtual learning could
1:54:03 be a solution for those at risk or afraid of getting sick.
1:54:05 I take care of my health and my kids health and I like I like to
1:54:09 keep it that way. Our free agencies are the ultimate human right.
1:54:13 Please stop quarantining our healthy kids and stop asphyxiating
1:54:17 them. My child my choice. I’m an immigrant and a mom who cares
1:54:21 about keeping my kids and America free. Thank you.
1:54:24 Thank you, Melissa.
1:54:28 And as Melissa is approaching our next two speakers will be Shonda
1:54:32 Barber and then Christopher McGill.
1:54:34 Hi, so I’m here to speak out about the implementing
1:54:37 implementation of the mask mandate. Your mission on the board
1:54:41 says to serve every student with excellence as a standard to
1:54:45 serve to be a servant. That does not mean mandating or forcing.
1:54:49 As a parent, we know what’s best for our children. I’m not here
1:54:51 to tell other parents how to raise their children, what to feed
1:54:54 them, how they should behave and nor should you be dictating
1:54:58 without consent from the parents.
1:55:00 Consent matters. It’s the ultimate form of respect. Have you
1:55:04 asked the children how they feel, what they want? Again, it’s a
1:55:07 respectful choice. Just as parents are split, they are as well.
1:55:11 My child has struggled to keep up with his peers and now you’re
1:55:15 forcing another layer of distraction to his learning. How are
1:55:19 children supposed to understand compassion when they cannot see
1:55:22 faces?
1:55:23 How are they supposed to overcome speech impediments when they
1:55:27 can’t see how to proper pronunciate? How are they be able to be
1:55:31 inspired when they’re being restrained?
1:55:34 If you’re scared, then you have an option, right? You’re an
1:55:37 adult. You can make the decision for yourself and your family.
1:55:40 You can mask. Our children should not be living this way without
1:55:44 parental consent.
1:55:45 Our children have already been stripped away of their innocence.
1:55:48 They have grown up faster than we did at their age. My kid comes
1:55:51 down with mandatory lockdown, right? Like we’re having
1:55:54 conversations about hiding from potential shooters in the
1:55:57 building.
1:55:58 Now we’re worried about a mask too. We teach our children to be
1:56:01 respectful of others. But are we teaching them that today? Don’t
1:56:05 they deserve respect? We teach our children that they can only
1:56:09 control their own actions and reactions.
1:56:11 We should practice what we preach. You take care of you. We’ll
1:56:15 take care of us. We all make choices. I hope you can all reflect
1:56:19 on the choices you made and feel confident and secure in the
1:56:22 results that will follow.
1:56:23 Please be respectful of choice. Choice for all. We just heard
1:56:27 about the budget with respect to enrollment. We all make choices.
1:56:32 Remember, a person’s a person no matter how small.
1:56:35 And again, I’d like to say thank you to the two members who
1:56:38 actually allowed us as parents to still have a choice in how our
1:56:42 children are raised. Thank you.
1:56:44 Thank you. Shondell.
1:56:51 Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is
1:56:54 Shondell Barber. I’ve been a resident of VR for six years and I
1:56:58 grew up in Florida.
1:56:59 I have three children ages six, seven and nine that have
1:57:03 attended Brevard County. We moved to this county because of the
1:57:06 school board and because of the schools and the excellence they
1:57:09 they have proven.
1:57:11 However, today I’m here to upset and and I need to fight for my
1:57:15 children right now.
1:57:17 Okay. And I do applaud the ones that did that did a vote for
1:57:21 this. I’ve been in the dental industry for 20 years. I hold a
1:57:26 bachelor’s degree in business. I have OSHA certified training
1:57:29 compliance and I hold a bachelor’s in business and theology.
1:57:33 The coronavirus when I found this out, I was appalled. This is
1:57:48 from the American Medical Association encyclopedia in nineteen
1:57:48 eighty nine. The coronavirus is listed in that book as what a
1:57:49 common cold.
1:57:50 Okay, that’s nineteen eighty nine. Google has removed. Why is my
1:57:54 mic not working? Okay, just checking on you. Right. The CDC
1:57:59 director has openly admitted that COVID-19 vaccine cannot
1:58:03 protect you.
1:58:04 Also starting to change the language from immune to protected.
1:58:08 That’s next.
1:58:10 Headaches, anxiety, sensory issues, psychological effect
1:58:14 violates the disability act. You are breaking the law and I will
1:58:19 make sure that all of you are responsible for it.
1:58:23 And if it gets to the point to the Nuremberg, you might want to
1:58:26 be a little careful next time.
1:58:28 Mask wearing. Right. And these are all by proof of all the
1:58:32 doctors by wearing a mask. The exhale viruses will not be able
1:58:36 to escape and will concentrate the nasal passages into the olfactory
1:58:41 nerve and goes right straight to the brain.
1:58:44 That’s Russell Brad, the AMD. Seventeen studies were analyzed.
1:58:49 And concluded that none of the established inclusive
1:58:53 relationships between mass respirator use and protection against
1:58:58 influenza common cold slash coronavirus.
1:59:04 Well, our medical history states that the coronavirus is a
1:59:08 common cold wearing masks for long periods of time. And my
1:59:12 children are fine.
1:59:14 They’re being upset. They can’t learn. They’re pulling their
1:59:19 mask and they’re treated as if they were bad if their mask slips
1:59:22 down their nose.
1:59:23 Hire me. You’re you you’re violating my rights as a citizen
1:59:33 parent. I pay taxes. I pay a lot this year. I’m going to be zero
1:59:35 because that’s exactly what you earn. I hope to Santa will take
1:59:38 your salary away because what you’re doing right now is illegal.
1:59:43 What’s going on in North Carolina is the same thing.
1:59:47 Our rights are being violated. You’ve also violated the rights
1:59:51 of the Special Needs Disability Act. Thank you.
1:59:53 We appreciate you joining us this evening. Christopher McGill.
1:59:57 You’re done, ma’am. Please step away.
2:00:02 Please step away from the mic, ma’am. Yes. Out.
2:00:10 That’s OK. OK.
2:00:21 Christopher McGill, thank you for your patience, sir.
2:00:27 Christopher McGill, I have a beautiful little daughter named
2:00:30 Adam McGill. She attends Sun Tree Elementary. I try to look at
2:00:33 everything on both sides. I want to see it from one person’s
2:00:36 point of view and another person’s point of view and try to come
2:00:39 together.
2:00:40 It seems like everyone can’t figure that out. But also when I
2:00:44 like to look into things because, you know, anybody could tell
2:00:46 you anything.
2:00:47 But does that mean it’s trustworthy to believe? It doesn’t
2:00:50 matter if it’s your average Joe or a person that has 14
2:00:54 different degrees because we’ve come to find out that there’s
2:00:56 evil.
2:00:56 There’s corruption in every level, industry, company, agency,
2:01:00 government, anything that you could possibly think of.
2:01:03 It does exist. So with that said.
2:01:08 I took a screenshot of what this mask box labels on it.
2:01:13 The ones that a majority of you are wearing and you’re making
2:01:16 others wear as well.
2:01:18 It says this product is an ear loop mask. This product is not a
2:01:23 respirator and will not provide any protection against COVID-19,
2:01:28 also known as the coronavirus or other viruses or contaminants.
2:01:32 Wearing an ear loop mask does not reduce the risk of contracting
2:01:36 any disease or infection.
2:01:38 User is solely responsible for the addition of appropriate
2:01:43 personal protective equipment.
2:01:46 So what that states is the mask does nothing. They don’t want to
2:01:50 be held liable.
2:01:51 So that’s why they label their box that. So why don’t you guys
2:01:54 read what it states before you tell others that they need to
2:01:58 wear this?
2:01:59 It’s disrespectful. And if we want to get to that topic, we can
2:02:03 look at last year’s numbers.
2:02:04 I had I know we had another gentleman and I respect that
2:02:06 gentleman and his numbers and stuff like that.
2:02:08 But on Florida had a very like low case numbers.
2:02:12 And, you know, we didn’t have a mass mandate, but if you looked
2:02:15 at a lot of these other states, they had multiple mass mandates
2:02:17 made higher numbers or deaths.
2:02:19 So at the end of the day, we these numbers, they matter because
2:02:24 it shows you that the mask didn’t work.
2:02:28 I also want to let you know that the same agencies that you guys
2:02:31 listen to are telling you to enforce mask.
2:02:33 There’s the same ones are telling you that there’s a Delta
2:02:36 variant.
2:02:37 We have a test for a Delta variant because we don’t. It’s a lie.
2:02:44 I also want to say, are any of you in possession?
2:02:48 Or have you been stated to receive any federal funding on the
2:02:51 condition of a universal masking?
2:02:53 And if any other COVID protocols, if anyone, the staff and or
2:02:57 students for the school district, if so, you are then
2:03:01 representing these individuals and not feel the ones that have
2:03:04 elected you.
2:03:05 I just want to put all you guys will notice if you’re receiving
2:03:08 any kind of gifts, assets, any kind of bonuses, you’re being
2:03:13 promised things by special interest groups.
2:03:16 If you don’t think that we’re not going to figure this out, we
2:03:18 do have whistleblowers. People are inside and they’re scared to
2:03:22 death because they have gag orders put on them.
2:03:23 But they’re going to blow the whistle and they’re going to
2:03:25 expose a lot of what’s going on.
2:03:27 So hopefully you guys think before you take your next action. We
2:03:29 appreciate you joining us. God bless you guys.
2:03:33 All right, that is going to conclude our public comments for
2:03:36 today. Does anyone, any other board member have anything else to
2:03:42 report?
2:03:43 I will. I’m just going to make one short comment before I turn
2:03:48 it over to you, Dr. Mullins, and then Mr. Gibbs needs some time
2:03:51 this evening as well.
2:03:53 There have been lots of comments made accusations about students
2:03:57 being bullied, and I just want to make it very clear that no one
2:04:02 on this board is supportive of any faculty or staff bullying
2:04:07 students over mass.
2:04:08 We’ve made it very clear that is not the expectation.
2:04:12 Given that I’m not saying it has not happened, but I am saying
2:04:16 that general statements of this taking place don’t help us.
2:04:20 If there is a situation where this is taking place, then number
2:04:24 one, contact the principal and number two, let us know.
2:04:28 But generalities of these things taking place don’t help us to
2:04:31 address the issue.
2:04:33 So if you actually want the issue address, much better to reach
2:04:37 out to us so we can address it directly.
2:04:40 Instead of making individual making broad public statements
2:04:44 where we can’t actually address it.
2:04:46 All right, Dr. Mullins, do you have anything more to add this
2:04:49 evening?
2:04:50 Ms. Belfort, thank you for those comments. I do want to also add,
2:04:54 I feel it necessary to come to the defense of some amazing staff
2:04:59 members, men and women who have devoted themselves to serving
2:05:03 our children in our cafeterias across the district.
2:05:07 Some allegations have come forth that have been determined
2:05:11 invalid and the suggestion that the men and women who put
2:05:14 themselves on the front line last school year throughout the
2:05:19 summer and continuously throughout last year to ensure that our
2:05:24 kids have a healthy meal for them was very disappointing.
2:05:30 And those to the degree that we can investigate those
2:05:33 allegations, they were completely found completely determined
2:05:38 unfounded that children were denied food because they weren’t
2:05:42 wearing a mask.
2:05:43 So I had the opportunity to visit one of the cafeterias that
2:05:49 were accused of that and provided that staff the reassurance but
2:05:54 I could tell you that they were hurt.
2:05:56 And I just want to acknowledge their work and their service and
2:06:00 their dedication to our kids and their selfless commitment to
2:06:04 serving the kids of our county and ensuring that they have
2:06:08 healthy meals every day available for them.
2:06:11 So thank you.
2:06:12 Thank you, Dr. Mullins.
2:06:15 All right.
2:06:17 At this point, the chair recognizes the board’s attorney Paul
2:06:20 Gibbs.
2:06:21 Good evening board members I’m notifying you that advice is
2:06:25 needed regarding OJCC case Pablo Burbano versus the school board
2:06:29 of Brevard County, Florida case number 21 dash 007623 RLD
2:06:35 pursuant to 286.011 Florida statutes known as the government the
2:06:40 Sunshine Act.
2:06:41 I am requesting an attorney client session with the board for
2:06:45 the purpose of discussing the evaluation and or compromise of
2:06:49 said claim.
2:06:50 I will ask the board’s clerk to cause reasonable public notice
2:06:53 of the time and date of this attorney client session and the
2:06:56 names of the persons attending to be published.
2:06:58 It is suggested that the attorney client session be held
2:07:01 September 17 2021 at 1pm as required by the statute, only the
2:07:06 following individuals will be present misty Belford board chair,
2:07:09 Matt Susan, Vice Chair, Katie Campbell school board member,
2:07:13 Jennifer Jenkins school board member Cheryl McDougal school
2:07:17 board member deputy superintendent Dr.
2:07:20 Beth Betty sitting in for superintendent dark mark, Dr. Mark
2:07:24 Mullins, Paul Gibbs general counsel William Robner Esquire the
2:07:28 HR law firm.
2:07:29 I will ask a court reporter to record the session, also as
2:07:32 required by statute, her notes will be fully transcribed and
2:07:34 filed with the clerk of the school board upon the conclusion of
2:07:37 any litigation and or settlement of all claims arising out of
2:07:40 this incident, the transcript
2:07:42 will be made public record recommend.
2:07:45 Sorry. No, I recommend the board hold an attorney client session
2:07:52 pursuant to section 286.011 Florida statutes to discuss a
2:07:55 pending claim. If there are no objections I will instruct our
2:07:58 attorney to schedule the attorney client session to be held
2:08:01 September
2:08:01 17 2021 starting at 1pm, or as soon thereafter as the matter may
2:08:06 be heard right here any objection from any board member.
2:08:10 Hearing none. Mr. Gibbs before distracted. Thank you.
2:08:15 All right, there being no further business this meeting is now
2:08:19 adjourned Have a great night.
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