Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL

2021-10-26 - School Board Meeting

0:00 We’ll be right back.

0:19 Brevard County is a community on the move as one of the fastest

0:22 growing counties in the state with increased business

0:28 opportunities, a booming

0:28 in Brevard County means being where the action is, and in the

0:31 middle of that action is Brevard Public Schools.

0:36 Brevard Public Schools is a community leader actively working to

0:40 shape young lives into individuals capable of making real world

0:46 impact.

0:47 Accessibility is of high importance, and as such, 84 schools are

0:52 offered throughout the county, spanning from Mims to Palm Bay.

0:57 While we’re proud to be in a district with a 90% graduation rate,

1:02 Brevard ensures students have every opportunity to succeed.

1:06 This can be seen in the 414 graduates who earned their associate’s

1:10 degree while still in high school, and the 47% of graduates who

1:14 earned certificates in STEM and CTE courses.

1:19 Showcasing national leadership in career and technical education,

1:23 Brevard students dominate in science, with seven high schools

1:27 ranked as America’s best for STEM.

1:30 For those students interested in other areas of study, our

1:33 schools offer 82 different industry certifications, a unique

1:38 aviation assembly and fabrication program,

1:41 a top-notch robotics program, and a maritime program that uses

1:45 technology only found in one Florida high school right here in

1:50 Brevard.

1:51 All of our CTE programs prepare students for college and the

1:55 workforce, whether in automotive tech, 911 public safety, or

1:59 culinary.

2:00 These programs strengthen the future of our children and Brevard

2:04 County.

2:05 Not just available to high school students, CTE programs are in

2:09 middle school and, yes, elementary schools too.

2:13 When it comes to academics, our students shine using a robust AP

2:17 program, dual enrollment, Cambridge program, International Baccalaureate

2:21 program, and National Honor Society.

2:25 If you want the best educators in Florida, they’re inside Brevard

2:28 classrooms.

2:30 Experienced, energized teachers and staff are leading our kids

2:34 from kindergarten to graduation.

2:37 At Brevard Public Schools, the sky is not the limit. We aim for

2:41 beyond.

3:01 Apollo Elementary was built in 1966 right in the middle of the

3:01 Apollo program, which brought the astronauts to the moon.

3:09 This school has a special place in Titusville because of that,

3:09 and I think it’s important for us to continue our relationship

3:09 with Kennedy Space Center and the space program.

3:19 The best thing about the school, it’s an environment where

3:19 students are nurtured, where they are given what they need to

3:19 become global citizens,

3:27 where everybody works together collaboratively so that they can

3:30 be successful.

3:32 My favorite thing about Apollo is just the culture that it

3:35 promotes. The teachers are kind and they work together, and the

3:39 students respond well to them.

3:42 When you have everybody working together, it just makes a

3:44 stronger school. Just being such a tight-knit community, we

3:48 really want to work with those kids that maybe are struggling in

3:52 an area.

3:53 We work a lot with the kids that maybe are excelling academically.

3:57 We have a lot of programs.

3:58 We will make sure that every child is taken care of, no matter

4:01 what the need is. They know no matter what when they go home

4:04 that they’re loved, and we just want to see Apollo continue to

4:08 succeed.

4:09 It is really easy at Apollo to make friends, and I got lots of

4:14 great friends here. I really love how the teachers helped me

4:18 here at Apollo Elementary.

4:21 I actually want to be an astrophysicist when I grow up because

4:25 of all the space-type things we do here at Apollo.

4:29 We actually have a moon tree. There are seeds that they took to

4:32 space and took them back, and one of them is actually planted

4:35 right in front of the school.

4:37 It’s really great to walk through the school knowing that this

4:41 school has a part of history that we’ll forever live on in our

4:45 lives.

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4:56 My favorite thing about Astronaut High School are the students.

4:59 The students make everything that we do worthwhile.

5:02 I think the most unique aspect about our school is that we serve

5:06 a diverse population.

5:08 [music]

5:11 We have outstanding, experienced educators who really put the

5:14 students first and celebrate our ability to serve our students

5:17 here at Astronaut High.

5:19 My favorite thing about Astronaut High School is the community.

5:22 The culture is about every student being successful.

5:25 From the moment you step in here, it’s a different feeling.

5:28 There is no other school like Astronaut High School.

5:31 We are just here to support our students, support our community,

5:33 because we are a family.

5:35 There is something for everyone here at Astronaut. From

5:38 accelerated academic programs like our AP Academy to our career

5:41 and technical programs such as welding, construction, and

5:45 nursing,

5:46 we have great opportunities for all of our students.

5:49 We have a group of teachers who feel like Astronaut High School

5:53 is home. They’re truly invested in the students and they want to

5:56 see them succeed.

5:57 The connection between our administration, it’s what makes this

6:00 school work and it’s what makes this such a special place.

6:04 I feel like everyone’s really involved here and it’s a really

6:07 positive environment.

6:09 Everyone here is like a family. Everyone’s here to support you

6:13 and make sure that you succeed in everything that you do.

6:17 My favorite thing about Astronaut High is just the experience

6:19 and the friendships I have here at the school and the

6:22 relationships I build here.

6:24 There’s many things that you can do here at Astronaut High

6:26 School and they give you so many opportunities.

6:28 The teachers really do care about your future. Astronaut High

6:30 School just gives me that home feeling.

6:32 If I could describe Astronaut High School in one word, it would

6:35 be passion. Family. Community. Excellence. Learning. Special.

6:40 It would definitely be pride.

6:53 Upon arriving to this campus, they’re going to arrive to an

6:56 atmosphere of caring faculty. Teachers are energetic about what

7:01 they do. Their passion is undeniable.

7:02 Their reputation is undeniable throughout the county and not

7:05 just throughout the county, throughout the state of Florida.

7:09 Whether the student has ambition to go to Harvard or Yale or to

7:13 be a machinist at the Cape or one of our local industries, those

7:18 opportunities exist and they’re well-rounded for any student.

7:23 Whether it’s in the classroom, the athletic department, our

7:26 clubs and activities, our JROTC program, which is a very popular

7:30 program here at Bayside High School.

7:32 Even our BLAST program, which is students that have graduated

7:35 but have decided to continue on in their education, they have

7:39 real world experience in transitioning from school to

7:42 independent living.

7:44 I can’t say enough wonderful things about the CTE department and

7:47 all of the variety of courses we offer from machining to

7:51 culinary, TV productions, drafting.

7:54 Not only do we have world-class instructors, but we have world-class

7:57 equipment. There are a lot of academic opportunities here for

8:00 kids at Bayside High School.

8:02 The dual enrollment program and the early admissions program is

8:04 where students can enroll in Eastern Florida classes and if they

8:07 complete the program, they can graduate with their AA degree and

8:09 their high school diploma.

8:11 We have a wide variety of AP courses here that they can take on

8:14 campus and earn college credit for. There’s something for

8:18 everyone.

8:19 The staff definitely does care about us here. I feel like they

8:22 tailor us in a certain way so that we all feel comfortable

8:24 learning certain things because not everyone’s the same.

8:28 They really try to make it beneficial and comfortable for

8:30 everyone.

8:31 At Bayside High School, I always feel like staff and faculty are

8:34 putting in extra stuff forward when it comes to their student

8:37 success.

8:38 They’re very easy to reach out to and will always help you with

8:40 anything academic related and non-academic related.

8:43 The people you’ll meet here are just wonderful and they’re super

8:45 easy to get along with.

8:47 The community is just fantastic.

9:02 In Heritage High School, you can find a lot of different

9:02 cultures, diversity, and everybody respect each other. It’s kind

9:10 of like a really, really big family.

9:14 We have very successful students that are striving for

9:17 excellence in many different ways.

9:20 We have Cambridge programs, we have dual enrollment, we have CTE

9:25 programs, automotive programs, the Academy of Environmental

9:28 Water and Technology have a very strong athletic program.

9:32 And then, of course, we have the best band in the business and

9:35 our performing arts programs are very good also.

9:38 So all types of opportunities here at Heritage High School for a

9:41 well-rounded student that enjoys the performing arts, that

9:44 enjoys athletics, but also has college and career in the back of

9:47 their mind.

9:48 My favorite thing, honestly, has to be our Cambridge program.

9:51 The kids have a chance of earning college credit while they’re

9:53 right here on campus with us.

9:55 If the students earn their Cambridge diploma and also get 100

9:57 hours of community service, they qualify for Bright Futures,

10:00 which will pay for their college for up to a four-year degree

10:02 plus a book stipend.

10:04 Our kids, they get along, our teachers, they love them, and we

10:07 hear this back and forth from the kids.

10:09 We have visitors that come onto campus and they make comment

10:11 about how pleasant our kids are to interact with.

10:14 We are inclusive, we are robust, and your kids will feel welcome

10:19 here.

10:20 I feel like the staff here really does care about the students’

10:24 success and just their well-being.

10:27 We have great teachers here to get you prepared for the exams.

10:31 Here at Heritage, you can do everything at once. I can manage TV

10:34 productions, live stream all the football games, and earn my

10:37 Cambridge diploma at the same time.

10:39 I love being a student here because it’s so easy to meet new

10:41 people.

10:42 People aren’t segregated into their groups of band kids or

10:45 athletes or this or that.

10:47 Everybody mixes together, so you can really make a lot of

10:49 different friends at once.

11:01 Imperial’s a fun place to be. The school is family, and that’s

11:05 what my classroom is.

11:07 You, as a parent, become part of the family. You work close with

11:10 the teachers. The teachers know each student.

11:13 I have third graders that come to my door to wave at me and tell

11:16 me good morning. So it’s just a family atmosphere.

11:21 Your child’s coming to a school that they’re going to feel the

11:24 love. They’re going to feel that we care about them and their

11:28 growth.

11:29 We have a lot of teachers and staff members that put in the

11:33 extra effort and time to get to know our kids and work with our

11:37 kids.

11:38 You come here because we do have quality educators, and we

11:42 thrive ourselves on getting better and doing our best with our

11:47 students in the classroom and outside of it.

11:52 We have some great programs, the robotics program. We have

11:55 wonderful computerized programs where we’re dealing with

11:58 technologies.

11:59 And we have a great art program where students can stay after

12:01 school and, you know, work on their creativity.

12:04 The students are able to help each other out. They’ve got a lot

12:08 of spark.

12:09 Everyone’s helpful and friendly. And like, if you don’t know

12:13 something, if you just ask someone, they’ll lead you the right

12:15 way.

12:16 You can be yourself and no one will make fun of you.

12:19 This is a special school that is always wondrous to come to in

12:24 the morning.

12:26 They’re really special because these teachers, they’ve taught

12:29 you for years and they know you.

12:32 They know your family. They know all of you, basically.

12:45 We have the greatest kids, we have the greatest teachers, and we

12:47 have an outstanding community.

12:49 We believe in every child’s ability to learn, and we believe it’s

12:52 our responsibility as educators to create access for them, to

12:56 access the educational world and have the success that they

12:59 deserve.

13:03 We are an AVID school. We’re one of the few AVID elementaries,

13:05 one of only two here in Brevard schools.

13:08 And AVID, I believe, really helps create the purpose for why

13:10 students come to school.

13:12 It helps them understand what elementary school is going to do

13:14 for them in the future.

13:16 We have a lot of great programs like our drone teams, our sea

13:19 perch teams.

13:21 We have STEM clubs and STEAM clubs. We have orchestra.

13:24 They’ve been growing vegetables in the garden. They’re learning

13:27 and exploring.

13:28 And I have no doubt that we’re cultivating the next generation

13:30 of thinkers, innovators, and creators.

13:33 And I’m very excited for what our kids are doing.

13:36 At Palm Bay Elementary, we have quite a few programs that are

13:38 unique.

13:39 We’re a Special Olympics Unified Champion School, so we’re super

13:42 proud of our large exceptional education program.

13:45 Part of that is our gifted student program.

13:48 Our kids are super involved in lots of different academic

13:50 competitions and different community events.

13:53 So we have a lot of opportunities for kids outside the classroom

13:56 to participate in authentic learning.

14:00 Palm Bay Elementary is a special place to work and learn and

14:03 grow because of our sense of community and our commitment to our

14:07 students.

14:09 We give them the platform to practice their leadership skills.

14:14 At Palm Bay Elementary, the teachers make you feel really

14:16 welcoming and comfortable here.

14:18 It feels like family. The first day you came here, it feels like

14:21 you’re automatically just a part of it.

14:25 What’s awesome about Palm Bay Elementary is where they always

14:28 have something new every year or a month.

14:30 They offer new clubs or more hands-on activities.

14:34 And I also like that you can make a lot of new friends in this

14:36 school and have opportunities to learn new things in the school.

14:50 We have really grown and really been able to offer some very

14:53 unique learning opportunities for students.

14:56 I fully believe that the school is one of the best kept secrets

14:59 in South Brevard.

15:01 We have anything and everything you can imagine, and you’re not

15:03 going to find much like this in the district.

15:07 We’re the only magnet high school in Brevard County where our

15:09 focus is STEAM.

15:11 We have so many opportunities within that.

15:14 Not only the rigorous courses such as dual enrollment and AP and

15:17 honors, we have a Pirate to Panther program

15:20 where you can take college courses at FIT while you’re in high

15:24 school.

15:25 It’s complementary to our students.

15:27 AVID stands for Advancement Via Individual Determination.

15:30 We provide leadership and community service opportunities.

15:34 We have an AVID tutoring center. Students volunteer during their

15:37 lunch to help all students on campus.

15:40 So everybody gets support.

15:42 We all have one goal in mind, and that’s for our students to

15:45 succeed.

15:46 Palme Magnet High School is an emotionally safe environment.

15:49 Its diversity is its strength.

15:52 And when I say diversity, I don’t just mean cultural or

15:54 linguistic diversity.

15:56 We have a wide range of academic abilities.

15:59 We have a wide range of programs to meet every student at every

16:02 level that they come to us.

16:04 And we have such knowledgeable faculty, but they’re not just

16:07 knowledgeable.

16:08 They’re really genuinely caring, and they want to meet the

16:11 students where they are

16:13 and work to make them come up to where we need them to be and to

16:17 where they need themselves to be.

16:19 It’s been amazing. I’ve seen aspects both from in the classroom

16:23 and in sports.

16:24 We all support one another.

16:26 The coaches are great. They’re going to push you to be your best

16:28 on and off the court.

16:30 Our teammates are going to push each other. We know our

16:32 strengths and weaknesses,

16:33 and we continue to strive for the better for all of us and not

16:35 just individually.

16:37 One of the things you notice if you talk to any of the adults on

16:40 campus

16:41 is how much they genuinely care for the students here.

16:43 The goal of Palme Bay High is for everyone to feel included.

16:57 The culture of Port Malabar can be summed up as positive,

17:00 supportive.

17:02 Many of our teachers have their own kids enrolled here.

17:05 Many of the teachers were students themselves here,

17:07 so I’m very proud of that family-oriented, family-focused,

17:11 very warm, welcoming feeling that we have here at Port Malabar.

17:14 Academics and social-emotional growth will be the focal point,

17:18 and we will take pride in making sure your child grows and

17:21 progresses.

17:23 Port Malabar Elementary is an incredibly unique place for your

17:26 child to attend.

17:28 We have several unique programs. We have an exceptional gifted

17:32 program.

17:33 We focus on multiple intelligences such as art, music, STEM, and

17:37 the kids really shine.

17:39 The teachers take such good care of the kids here.

17:42 Honestly, safety is first, and after that, we just love your

17:45 children so much.

17:47 When you walk in, you can feel it. There’s love here. There’s

17:50 caring.

17:51 We take good care of the kids, and they want to come back every

17:53 day.

17:54 We also have five teachers that are bilingual, so we’re very

17:57 proud of that.

17:58 We try to have one per grade level, so if your student is

18:01 struggling with English,

18:02 we can accommodate them.

18:13 I like coming to school because the teachers care about me and

18:17 my own way.

18:19 My favorite thing at Port Malabar is recess because it’s the

18:23 time where you make new friends

18:26 and you get to spend time with them.

18:29 I feel like our teachers really do care about us, and they

18:32 comfort us when we may be having a bad day

18:34 or something’s going on either at school or at home.

18:37 It does feel really special when we’re recognized for our hard

18:39 work because of our Pelican Pride Awards.

18:42 Prepared, respectful, improved, dependable, and enthusiastic.

18:47 I’ve had a really fun time here at Port Malabar, and I totally

18:50 recommend it.

18:59 Riviera is a very open school.

19:01 We’ll do almost anything for our students in order to make sure

19:04 that they’re successful.

19:08 We do believe in that village mentality where it takes a full

19:10 village to raise a child.

19:12 The thing that excites me the most is we’re not stagnant.

19:15 Every year, our expectations here for our students expand, and

19:18 they get greater and greater.

19:20 What gets me excited about coming to work each day are the kids,

19:24 seeing them learn.

19:25 I enjoy greeting them in the morning, seeing their excitement

19:28 for coming to school every day,

19:30 and the positivity that they have knowing that no matter what

19:33 happens,

19:34 we’re here to support them and they’re safe while they’re here

19:36 doing it.

19:37 I’m really proud of the work that we’ve done at Riviera to make

19:39 our core academics really strong,

19:42 specifically in the areas of reading and math and science.

19:46 I am very proud of the fact that we’re all a tight-knit

19:49 community,

19:50 and we’re all working towards a common goal, which is for the

19:53 students to be successful.

19:55 We’re full of instructors and staff that reflect,

19:59 and so our number one goal is to make every day better than the

20:02 day before.

20:03 For me and my team, we love seeing the progression that the

20:06 students have.

20:08 The light bulb going off is basically why we do what we do.

20:12 We work hard with these students five days a week,

20:15 so you’re sitting with that student and those students working

20:18 hard.

20:19 And to see them progress, see them understand something, it

20:23 makes it all worth it.

20:26 For someone new coming to Riviera, you can expect kind people

20:30 and people that can help you.

20:32 They don’t just say the answer, they teach me how to get the

20:36 answer.

20:37 I like science because we get to do some experiments time to

20:41 time.

20:42 They provide kindness, respectfulness, and mostly fun.

20:58 I am a product of Brevard Public Schools.

21:00 I’ve been with Brevard Public Schools for approximately 18 years.

21:05 Southlake is an amazing school,

21:08 and what makes it special is the collaboration between the

21:12 teachers and the faculty.

21:21 Well, students have different learning styles,

21:24 and part of what we do in the Smart Lab is that choice.

21:28 If they’re interested in 3D printing, or video, or building,

21:34 engineering,

21:35 I think that giving students the opportunity to follow their

21:38 passions in the Smart Lab

21:40 helps with engagement, helps them find that success.

21:43 As students decide on the careers that they want to do,

21:48 what they learn here is really going to help them.

21:51 I love the fact that we honor, respect, and take ownership in

21:56 all the diversity

21:58 and the differences and uniquenesses of all of our teachers,

22:01 staff, and the students.

22:03 Every aspect of Southlake is a teaching opportunity.

22:07 Be ready to be enriched, get ready for the adventure of learning,

22:12 and not just having one teacher, but having 50 teachers.

22:15 Not just having one friend, but having hundreds of friends.

22:19 In my opinion, I really liked PE and the Smart Lab.

22:22 We do things on the computer and things with robots, and I

22:25 really like it.

22:27 You can go into school and go like, “Oh, I wonder what is going

22:30 to happen today,”

22:31 because there’s just new things every day to try.

22:35 For me, you can kind of like feel the friendliness about Southlake.

22:39 You can wave at people and they’ll wave back.

22:41 Like, you smile and they smile.

22:43 I love Southlake because of stuff like that.

22:54 When I talk to fellow people and I say I’m at Sunrise,

22:57 they say, “Oh, I’ve heard of that school. Oh, I know that school.”

23:00 It’s always for really amazing things.

23:07 We are making the kids more responsible for their learning now.

23:10 We are all here for the children and just holding them up to, I

23:14 think, higher expectations.

23:16 Knowing that we will reach every child here on whatever level

23:20 they need

23:21 is why they should come to Sunrise.

23:23 Sunrise Elementary is a school community

23:26 where it just radiates joy and love and a super passion for

23:31 learning.

23:32 Sunrise is well known for academic success and helping every

23:36 student shine.

23:38 Our teachers love what they do.

23:40 They learn right along with the students,

23:42 but they also collaborate with one another to plan and execute

23:47 amazing, fun, and engaging lessons.

23:49 And that’s what I want for the future of Sunrise Elementary

23:51 School.

23:52 I want our little sea turtles that come here to be able to come

23:54 start when they’re young,

23:56 grow up in our school, and we want to be able to help them meet

24:00 their full potential

24:02 and help them shine as they become young adults in the world.

24:06 We came up with three standards that aligned with our core

24:09 values,

24:10 which is be safe, work hard, and be nice.

24:12 And we run our day-to-day lives here at Sunrise that way,

24:16 and we recognize students and staff and faculty that follow that

24:19 mindset.

24:20 You know, it’s just a great guideline of what you should be

24:22 doing at all times.

24:24 Every teacher’s classroom rules, aligns with the Sunrise

24:27 standards.

24:28 You can ask any student and they’ll tell you what the Sunrise

24:30 standards are.

24:31 We really work on having those kids take ownership of their

24:33 behavior.

24:35 All the teachers care about all the students, and all the

24:37 students look up to the teachers.

24:39 But it’s very kind, everybody’s very nice, and it’s just a great

24:43 place to be.

24:45 All the teachers, they’re wonderful. They don’t treat the

24:46 students differently.

24:48 They treat all the students the same.

24:51 They never treat you because of how smart you are, they treat

24:53 you because of who you are.

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30:18 » Good evening.

30:19 I’m happy to welcome my fellow board members and the public and

30:22 call the October 26th, 2021 school board meeting to order.

30:26 This is a business meeting of the board held in the public.

30:28 As such, the board is authorized to adopt rules or

30:31 policies to maintain orderly conduct and proper decorum in a

30:34 public meeting.

30:35 Please note that your presence here is subject to those rules

30:35 and policies.

30:38 Pursuant to Florida Statute 877.13, it is unlawful and a

30:38 misdemeanor of the second

30:43 degree, punishable by up to 60 days in jail and a $500 fine.

30:47 For any person knowingly to disrupt or interfere with the lawful

30:51 administration

30:51 or functions of any educational institution or school board.

30:55 Or knowingly to advise counsel or instruct any school pupil or

30:59 school employee to

31:00 disrupt any school or school board function or activity on

31:03 school board property.

31:05 To facilitate board business, please be aware of the following.

31:08 The current emergency face mask mandate states that if Brevard

31:11 County reaches

31:12 a level of 50 COVID cases per 100,000 people,

31:15 the superintendent could transition the mask mandate from having

31:18 a medical

31:18 exemption to having a parental opt out for students, which

31:21 happened on Friday.

31:23 However, adults are still required to wear a face mask covering

31:25 the nose and

31:26 mouth while on school board property unless social distancing of

31:29 six feet

31:29 can be maintained or you have provided a medical exemption.

31:34 The appropriate place for public participation in the meeting is

31:37 during

31:37 your individual public comment opportunity as identified in the

31:41 agenda.

31:41 Outside of your individual public comment opportunity, your role

31:45 in the meeting

31:46 is as an observer.

31:48 Once again, this is a meeting for board business held in the

31:51 public.

31:51 Our agenda is quite lengthy and I will take appropriate measures

31:54 to ensure we

31:55 are able to continue with board business without interruption.

31:58 I will ask persons deemed to be knowingly or intentionally

32:00 disrupting this meeting

32:01 of the school board of Brevard County or not complying with

32:04 policy to stop or leave.

32:07 If persons receiving the warning choose not to follow my

32:09 instructions,

32:09 I will instruct Brevard County Sheriff’s deputies to take any

32:12 law enforcement

32:12 action they deem appropriate and you may be escorted, detained

32:16 or arrested

32:17 depending on the conduct.

32:19 Persons who refuse to depart after a warning may also be

32:22 committing the crime

32:23 of trespassing in accordance with Florida statute section 810.08.

32:28 These statutes apply to conduct on all school board property,

32:31 which includes this boardroom as well as the outside of this

32:34 building to the sidewalks.

32:36 If you continue to cause a disruption, you are advised that you

32:39 are in violation of

32:39 Florida state statute 877.13 or if you fail to leave the

32:44 premises after being

32:45 warned by the sheriff’s office, you are committing trespass and

32:47 the board has

32:48 authorized the sheriff’s office to enforce these rules.

32:51 In the event multiple individuals fail to adhere to these

32:54 expectations and

32:55 board business cannot continue due to disruption, I will call a

32:58 recess and

32:59 request that the law enforcement officers present clear the

33:01 boardroom of attendees.

33:03 When the room is cleared, the board will return and

33:05 resume their meeting with no public present.

33:08 Those who are signed up to speak will be seated under the front

33:10 entry area and

33:11 called in when it is your time to speak.

33:14 Pam roll call please.

33:19 Mrs. Belford.

33:20 Present.

33:21 Ms. McDougall.

33:22 Present.

33:23 Mrs. Jenkins.

33:24 Present.

33:25 Mr. Susan.

33:26 Present.

33:27 And Mrs. Campbell.

33:28 Present.

33:29 The board will now hold a moment of silent reflection in memory

33:30 of three BPS

33:31 family members who recently passed away.

33:34 Michael Storm, a mechanic in our transportation department.

33:36 James Sistelo, also a mechanic in our transportation department.

33:41 And Shree Ali, a kindergarten teacher at Gulfview Elementary.

33:54 Thank you, please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

34:06 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

34:15 and to the republic for

34:17 which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty

34:22 and justice for all.

34:23 At this time, I would like to offer my fellow board members and

34:29 Dr. Mullins the opportunity

34:30 to recognize students, staff, or members of our community who’d

34:33 like to start us off this

34:36 evening.

34:37 Ms. McDougall?

34:38 Sure.

34:39 I just want to give a shout out to a food service manager at

34:45 Freedom 7, who also happens

34:49 to be the food service manager at Roosevelt.

34:52 So he is doing two schools.

34:55 So a shout out to Devin Smith, which I did give him an impact

34:59 elevated pen because he

35:01 is definitely elevating two kitchens.

35:06 And I found out the other day when I was there, I looked around

35:09 the kitchen, I said, “Okay,

35:11 there’s you and one other person, are you the only two?”

35:15 And they were the only two because someone was out on injury.

35:20 And so there’s two people serving in the serving line and

35:25 cooking for over 400 students.

35:28 But I do want to also give a shout out to the volunteers who

35:32 help at Freedom 7 to make

35:33 that run smoothly.

35:35 So shout out to Devin Smith and the volunteers at Freedom 7.

35:41 Thank you, Ms. McDougall.

35:42 Anyone else?

35:43 Ms. Campbell?

35:44 I have a few, but I’ll be fast.

35:47 Last Tuesday night, the Children’s Hunger Project, who I also

35:50 get to serve on their

35:51 board, held a packing party for all our school coordinators who

35:55 coordinate which students

35:56 are in need.

35:57 And Children’s Hunger Project doesn’t get those names, they just

36:00 get numbers.

36:01 But we just had a little celebration, but also we packed 850

36:06 meals that go out to our

36:07 schools.

36:08 And thank you, Dr. Mullins, for coming and joining us.

36:10 One table team may have packed a little more than the other

36:14 tables team, but we had a good

36:16 night and we’re so thankful for all those people.

36:18 The rest of them are going tonight to, again, have a nice dinner

36:21 and get to pack.

36:22 We appreciate the Children’s Hunger Project and what they do for

36:24 our students, feeding

36:25 them on the weekends.

36:27 This morning, I got to participate in Central Middle School’s Stomp

36:30 Out Bullying Walk.

36:31 We walked from the West Melbourne Police Department all the way

36:34 to Central, and we had at least

36:36 a couple hundred students show up wearing red, walking down Main

36:39 Road in West Melbourne

36:40 and just hearing some inspirational speeches by our mayors.

36:46 And just had a great morning and proud of them for the work that

36:49 their teachers are

36:50 doing to help them in that initiative too.

36:52 This Saturday is the Marching Band Music Performance Assessment,

36:56 and I want to invite the rest

36:58 of the board as well as the listening audience to come out to

37:01 Mel High.

37:02 They start at three o’clock.

37:04 I will try to publish the schedule on my Facebook page this week

37:07 because it goes all the way

37:09 up to eight – the last band performs at 830, so if you want to

37:11 know which band you want

37:13 to come see or if you want to stay there for the whole day, it’s

37:14 going to be a wonderful

37:15 day of music there for their competition, but I encourage the

37:19 rest of the board to come

37:21 as well and check out the great work our marching bands have

37:24 been doing.

37:25 I had one thing I was going to say for the board report, but I’ll

37:27 just say it now since

37:28 it’s going to be a long night.

37:30 Met my every other month meeting with Russell Brun from

37:34 Government Community Relations,

37:36 the PAFR, which is the Public Annual Financial Report, is coming

37:40 out soon, or popular, I

37:41 think it’s popular.

37:42 It’s going to be so popular, everybody’s going to want to look

37:44 at it.

37:45 The very first one that we’ve ever done, it will be a layman’s

37:48 view at our very complicated

37:50 budget and finances and all of that, and so the initial look at

37:55 it has been really great

37:58 and I look forward to seeing that in the coming month.

38:01 » Awesome.

38:02 Thank you, Ms. Campbell.

38:03 Mr. Susan?

38:04 » I’ll go after Jay.

38:05 » Jenkins, did you have anything?

38:06 Mr. Susan?

38:07 » Yeah, so I wanted to thank Dr. Mullins and Russell Broom.

38:11 We’re getting ready to do something extraordinary.

38:14 Many individuals know that this COVID problem that we’ve had for

38:18 a while has put a lot of

38:19 kids on the couch.

38:20 A lot of kids are sitting back and they’re just lethargic, they’re

38:23 not getting out, they’re

38:25 not doing what they should do, and also at the same time, we

38:29 have one of the worst workforce

38:31 shortages in the United States in the last 50 years.

38:35 So what I’m going to do, and Russell Broom’s setting it up, is

38:38 that we’re going to do tours

38:39 of our career and technical programs.

38:41 I’m going to go in and show you exactly what’s inside of there.

38:45 I’m also going to call on the industry that surrounds each one

38:47 of those programs.

38:49 So at O’Gally, I’ll be reaching out to all the automotive

38:52 companies and shops and everything

38:54 else so that they can then view and see what we have.

38:58 Because the next step is, is that we have on-the-job training.

39:02 We have opportunities for these kids to get out and work.

39:05 And if our parents know that the opportunities are there, if

39:08 those shops and those organizations,

39:10 whether that’s the aviation hanger over there at O’Gally High

39:13 School, those students that

39:14 are going into Melbourne Regional Airport and working at some of

39:17 those, each one of

39:18 those sectors should be driving each one of our kids to get jobs

39:22 inside of them.

39:23 And if they know where the students are, they know the actual

39:26 teacher, they’ll be able to

39:27 do that.

39:28 So I wanted to thank Dr. Mullins and Russell Broom for getting

39:31 ready to set it up, and

39:32 it looks like we’ll probably start it in my district, and then I

39:35 hope my other school

39:36 board members follow suit.

39:37 It’s going to be a great opportunity to show off our stuff and

39:39 get these kids back to work.

39:41 Thank you.

39:42 Thank you, Mr. Susan, Dr. Mullins.

39:47 Thank you, Ms. Belfort.

39:48 I want to first recognize our student services department and

39:53 our ESC teachers, our ESC specialists.

39:57 Florida recognizes schools who establish a high-quality MTSS

40:03 process that stands for

40:05 the multi-tiered system of supports that is in every one of our

40:09 schools and responds to

40:11 the needs of kids, academic, behavioral, and so on, to provide

40:16 the identified supports.

40:18 Well, the state allows schools to submit application to

40:23 recognition of a school of high-quality

40:27 MTSS.

40:28 There were only 59 school applicants across the entire state of

40:34 thousands of schools,

40:36 and Brevard has one of the awarded schools.

40:40 Only 20 schools met all three criteria, and so congratulations

40:46 to Quest Elementary School

40:48 for not only going through the rigorous application process, but

40:53 being only one out of three applicants

40:56 who received the award across the state.

40:59 So congratulations to Quest, the staff who made that possible,

41:03 as well as our entire

41:05 student services team that comes around them and supports them

41:08 to do the work of supporting

41:09 our students.

41:11 And then, if that’s not enough, I’m going to kind of tout on Brevard

41:14 Public Schools

41:15 dominating the state.

41:17 This last Saturday, the Florida Council for Social Studies had

41:23 their annual awards program

41:26 this last Saturday night, and we took so many of the awards that

41:31 night.

41:32 It’s going to take a minute to go through them, but these are

41:35 state-recognized educators

41:36 and instructors of social studies.

41:39 First, the Warren Tracy Beginning Teacher of the Year Award was

41:43 awarded to Stephanie

41:44 Booth at Jefferson Middle School.

41:46 Congratulations, Stephanie.

41:47 Yeah, let’s hear it.

41:48 You’re going to clap a lot, because there’s more.

41:55 J.R.

41:56 Screading Leadership Award to Jennifer Jolly at Palm Bay Magnet

42:02 High School, state recognition.

42:05 The Dr. Theron Trimble Florida Teacher of the Year Award, high

42:10 school recipient.

42:11 We took that one.

42:12 Francine Dravick at Space Coast Junior Senior High School.

42:20 And then, the Dr. J. Doyle Castile Outstanding Leadership Award.

42:25 This is a big deal.

42:28 We took that award and awarded it to Ms. Kimberly Garton, who we’ve

42:33 said her name a half a dozen

42:34 times up here on the dais, as she is our secondary leading and

42:38 learning resource teacher for

42:40 social studies.

42:41 Congratulations.

42:42 No surprise to Kimberly Garton.

42:47 So I think the other 66 districts across the state had to share

42:51 a couple other awards that

42:53 we didn’t take, but that’s okay.

42:56 Dr. Mullins, it’s funny that you said that.

43:01 So when I was a teacher, I won the Warren Tracy Beginning

43:04 Teacher of the Year for the

43:05 whole state of Florida, and Ms. Dravick was one of the ones that

43:08 taught next door to me.

43:10 And the individuals that you have for social studies inside this

43:14 county leads the state,

43:16 and you should be very, very proud of them for that.

43:19 Ms. Dravick’s an amazing teacher, and I just had to make a plug

43:22 for her.

43:22 I mean, I sat across the hall from her for six years, so good

43:25 stuff.

43:26 Thank you.

43:27 - Thanks, Mr. Susan.

43:29 And that is a good lead in for me.

43:32 Wanted to thank Dr. Stephanie Sullivan and Ms. Jane Klein for an

43:36 awesome workshop earlier

43:38 today, where we really dug into the academics in our district,

43:42 where our challenges are,

43:44 and laid out our plans to address those challenges.

43:46 So for our public, if you did not have an opportunity, I know we

43:50 have a couple that

43:51 were here with us earlier, and thank you for being here and

43:54 engaging, but if you did not

43:55 get an opportunity to watch it, I would certainly encourage that

43:59 you do so, because there’s

44:01 lots of great data and lots of great explanation as to how we

44:05 move forward successfully.

44:07 Tying into social studies, because one of the areas that we are

44:10 very strong in Brevard

44:11 County is, in fact, social studies, and so I think it’s a

44:14 testament to the work that

44:16 those people have done that we can share that data.

44:19 I also want to thank our students and our parents, as well as

44:21 our faculty and staff

44:23 for the commitment and determination to work together to bring

44:26 down our COVID numbers.

44:27 Over the past several weeks, we heard numerous times that there

44:30 was no way we would get to

44:31 50 cases per 100,000 over a seven-day period in our community.

44:35 As you know, this past Friday, we came in at 50.1.

44:38 That’s even more impressive and more on point with my

44:40 appreciation for our school community

44:43 is that our in-school cases have dropped to nearly half of what

44:45 our community cases have

44:46 been per 100,000 people.

44:49 That’s an amazing feat considering that at the end of August,

44:52 our cases in schools were

44:53 two and a half times that of our community.

44:56 I will not claim that the masks are the sole cause of this

44:59 decline, as we know we had a

45:00 decline in our community, but I don’t believe that we can say

45:03 they had no impact either,

45:04 given the much steeper decline in our schools than in our

45:07 community.

45:08 Other mitigation strategies like staying home when sick, social

45:11 distancing when possible,

45:13 and additional cleaning protocols also likely contributed to our

45:16 steep decline, so I don’t

45:17 want to overlook the fact that everyone truly contributed to our

45:21 ability to have reached

45:22 the 50.1 in the community and 29.9 in our schools.

45:27 On behalf of everyone who sacrificed to make this happen, we

45:30 appreciate you.

45:31 I look forward to more discussion later in the meeting about

45:37 what our next steps are.

45:40 Dr. Mullins, that is going to bring us to the adoption of the

45:44 agenda.

45:45 Thank you Madam Chair and members of the board on this evening’s

45:47 agenda.

45:47 We have administrative staff recommendations, two presentations,

45:51 20 consent items, 12 action

45:53 items, and two information items.

45:55 Changes made to the agenda since it was first released to the

45:58 public on Tuesday, October

45:59 5th, 2021 are as follows.

46:02 A presentation on issues facing teachers and strategies for

46:06 improvement was added, a revision

46:07 was made to item G40 on procurement solicitations, and item F12

46:13 on student expulsions as well

46:16 as item G38 on extension of emergency mask policy and a board

46:20 discussion item were additions.

46:23 What are the wishes of the board?

46:24 Move to approve.

46:25 Second.

46:26 Seconded by Ms. McDougal, is there any discussion?

46:33 Hearing none, please vote.

46:51 Only when I try to vote twice.

46:54 I’m assuming that wasn’t a, okay, no, it didn’t show me and the

47:22 motion passes 5-0.

47:23 Dr. Mullins, will you please let us know about the

47:26 administrative staff recommendation?

47:29 Ms. Belford and members of the board, there are three

47:31 individuals for the board to consider.

47:33 What are the wishes of the board?

47:34 Move to approve.

47:35 Second.

47:36 Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. McDougal, is there any

47:39 discussion?

47:40 Dr. Mullins?

47:41 Oh, we should vote first, sorry, please vote.

47:49 Motion passes, 5-0, Dr. Mullins.

48:10 Thank you, Mrs. Belford, members of the board.

48:22 If I were honest, I wish you actually would have denied the

48:24 first individual I’m going

48:26 to recognize, but nevertheless, I want to congratulate Mr. Frank

48:31 O’Leary as he retires

48:33 at the end of this semester calendar year from the position of

48:37 principal at Apollo Elementary

48:39 School.

48:40 Mr. O’Leary has a long-standing career in Brevard Public Schools.

48:45 We commend him for his dedication, his service, and certainly

48:50 personal sacrifice to putting

48:53 kids first and taking care of not only kids, but the parents in

48:57 his immediate community

48:59 and the schools he has served over the many years.

49:02 We appreciate you, Frank, we wish you well, and we appreciate

49:05 you sticking with us through

49:07 the end of this semester, but we wish you a most blessed

49:11 retirement.

49:13 And coincidentally, and to our fortune, we have another former

49:17 administrator who retired

49:18 a little while ago and apparently has failed at retirement

49:21 because he agreed to come back

49:23 as acting assistant principal at Delora Middle School.

49:26 Mr. Doug Cook, you may recognize him as a long-standing

49:30 assistant principal from Satellite

49:33 High School, but I see him at every satellite event that goes

49:38 going on in the community.

49:41 He remains very active, and he’s agreed to come back as a acting

49:44 assistant principal

49:46 effective November 1st through January 14th.

49:49 So Doug, welcome back to the team, it’s good to have you, and I

49:52 appreciate you coming to

49:53 help us out.

49:54 Thanks, Dr. Mullen.

49:56 All right, we are going to move on to presentations, and I am

50:01 super excited for this first one.

50:03 Dr. Mullens, if you’d like to share.

50:06 Thank you, Madam Chairman and members of the board, I’ll be

50:09 providing a presentation on

50:10 our Thrive by Five initiative.

50:12 I know you might think, “Wait, we’ve been hearing about this,”

50:17 and you have, but tonight

50:19 is the eve of our official hard launch of the Thrive by Five

50:24 program.

50:25 I have Ms. Klein and Ms. Priscilla Denino, who’s going to join

50:29 me over here while I make

50:30 a presentation to the board and to our public.

50:44 All right.

50:53 Is the microphone on?

50:54 I can’t tell.

50:55 It is not.

50:56 Yeah.

50:57 All right.

50:58 Thank you, Madam Chair.

50:59 First, I’d like to begin by introducing the lovely, talented,

51:03 amazing Priscilla Denino,

51:05 who is our coordinator of early childhood.

51:09 Did I get that right?

51:11 I’ve known Ms. Denino for years.

51:14 She is an exemplary educator, but truly an expert in early

51:18 childhood and has been instrumental

51:21 in our development of this initiative under the great leadership

51:24 of Ms. Jane Klein, who

51:26 you heard from earlier today, the assistant superintendent of

51:30 elementary leading and learning.

51:33 So to get us started, maybe, see if we can…

51:37 There we go.

51:38 Now the computer’s awake.

51:40 What we know and understand, and I don’t think will be a

51:43 surprise to our community, is the

51:46 absolute critical importance of early learning, really, the

51:50 literacy development of children

51:53 at day one of birth.

51:55 And then we know that in the first five years of life, it is

51:58 absolutely critical to the

52:00 overall lifelong development of a child into adulthood.

52:06 And if you’ve raised a child, you know those early years, they

52:09 are moving fast, they are

52:10 learning fast, and they’re making us move fast.

52:13 In fact, they develop more than one million neuron connections

52:18 per second.

52:20 I wish I could say the same still for me, but their brains are

52:26 wired from the moment

52:28 of birth to get ready to learn for the rest of their lives, and

52:33 their neurons are just

52:35 firing at accelerated rates.

52:38 So we began discussion, how do we capitalize on those early

52:42 years of a child’s life to

52:44 really lay the foundation of solid literacy acquisition?

52:49 And we discussed the way, how do we support families, how do we

52:52 connect with our families

52:54 in those earliest stages of life to give them resources and

52:59 tools and connections with how

53:01 to support their child with literacy?

53:04 Because we know if we can help families with the development of

53:10 literacy by five, when

53:12 a child comes into our schools in kindergarten, reading what we

53:16 call reading ready, then the

53:18 trajectory of that child’s literacy accomplishment is on pace

53:23 and on track for our teachers when

53:26 the child comes to our schools.

53:29 So how do we be a partner in that early journey?

53:35 In developing and fostering a love for learning, but also a love

53:40 for literacy.

53:41 So that is what was the impetus behind Thrive by Five.

53:46 We began development of a website and a logo design, and then we

53:52 went out to our community

53:54 health partners.

53:55 Because the reality is, is we wait right now for the kids to

53:59 walk into our schools at four

54:01 years old for VPK or five years old for kindergarten, and we don’t

54:06 know who those families are until

54:08 they walk in our doors.

54:11 But our health partners who have the birthing centers, they had

54:14 the very first introduction

54:16 to kids in the community, we said, if we can connect with our

54:19 health partners and our birthing

54:21 centers and get resources and supports in the hands of families

54:25 and then develop that

54:27 relationship in the coming years, we can not only help the

54:31 parents in developing that love

54:33 for learning and literacy, but also be a partner with them along

54:39 that journey.

54:40 So launching soon, actually official hard launch on Monday,

54:46 November 1st, is our Brevard

54:50 Thrive by Five website, where I love this quote.

54:54 I think this is actually Ms. Denino’s quote, so got to give her

54:58 the credit.

54:59 Watching your child grow and develop is like turning a kaleidoscope.

55:04 Each lens you look through shows you something different.

55:08 With that in mind, we knew we had to create and develop a

55:11 dynamic website.

55:13 As you can see, the tabs at the bottom of the screen, they

55:15 represent all of the different

55:17 resources that are available on our website for families.

55:23 So you may ask, well, how are you going to connect with these

55:28 families?

55:29 You’ve talked about the health care, the birthing centers, and

55:32 so on.

55:32 We have, Ms. Denino, will you hold up one of our resource bags?

55:37 We have to put together with our local hospital partners this

55:42 resource bag that will be delivered

55:44 to the hospital birthing centers, and they have agreed to give

55:48 them to families when

55:50 they have a child in their hospital.

55:53 The family can review that, take advantage of the resources, be

55:57 introduced to our website.

55:58 But also, if you’ll open one up so everyone can see, we want to

56:02 give them maybe their

56:04 first book, their first early childhood book, Brown Bear, Brown

56:09 Bear, What Do You See?

56:11 We still have it in our house from years ago.

56:13 We’re waiting to use it with grandkids, hint, hint.

56:19 I’m going to get in trouble for that one.

56:21 But also, we have a bib or a towel for our families that

56:28 celebrates the birth of their

56:31 child and connects them with Thrive by Five.

56:37 I have to do a huge, huge shout out to our three major health

56:42 partners in our community,

56:46 Parrish, Stewart Medical Group, and Health First.

56:50 I made a phone call to each of the CEOs in the organization, and

56:53 I said, you know, we’ve

56:55 got this crazy idea of connecting with all the families who are

56:57 having kids in our community

56:59 every year, every day throughout the year.

57:01 The problem is, I don’t know who they are, but you do because

57:04 they come through your

57:05 birthing centers.

57:06 Would you allow us to provide for you, we’ll put them together,

57:09 these resource packets

57:11 or bags for families?

57:14 And immediately, it was the quickest absolute yes I’ve ever

57:17 received from a business partner

57:19 in the community.

57:20 And not only have they given us access to the birthing center,

57:24 but every one of the

57:25 health partners made a financial contribution and have virtually

57:29 offset the entire cost

57:31 of this initiative and made a five-year commitment to continue

57:35 doing that for our community.

57:38 So we launched a packing day, a couple, three weeks ago, a bunch

57:42 of staff got together and

57:44 put together the first, I think it was 500, 200, 500 bags.

57:49 They’re ready to be delivered out in our birthing centers.

57:52 You see the bins there, they’re all ready to go.

57:54 The plan, we will continue to pack.

57:56 We may be having co-packing parties with Children’s Hunger

58:00 Project and then also our Thrive by

58:02 Five, but we’ll re-fill the bins, re-deliver them to our birthing

58:06 centers so they can continue

58:08 to make those resources available to our families.

58:13 So what does the community launch look like?

58:16 Monday, November 1st, you will be getting information or

58:21 announcement of our news conference

58:23 that we’ll be doing with our health partners, making that

58:27 announcement formally to our entire

58:29 community and then we’ll also be having a social media event

58:33 with BPS and those partners

58:36 moving forward.

58:37 You’re going to start to see billboards and the Thrive by Five

58:41 logo beginning to prompt

58:43 people’s interest and attention to this initiative and then we’re

58:47 launching our podcast on Monday

58:50 as well through our social media sites.

58:53 So stay tuned for more Thrive by Five information coming near

59:00 you and would encourage you to

59:04 show those families that you know with young kids or soon to be

59:07 families to our website

59:09 and the resources that are available.

59:10 As we move into the coming months, phase two of our launch will

59:15 be more bags being delivered

59:17 to hospitals and birthing centers across the county.

59:20 We know that there are other locations other than the hospitals

59:24 that we are connecting

59:25 with and providing the resources of them as well.

59:28 Billboards throughout the entire month of November as well as

59:32 continuing to build business

59:34 partners.

59:35 Our municipalities, I’ve been out meeting with our

59:37 municipalities over the last few

59:39 months and I’ve been dropping these hints of Thrive by Five is

59:43 coming soon.

59:44 Do you want to be a part of this initiative and undeniably yes,

59:48 how do we get, how do

59:50 we connect?

59:51 I said, well, the first thing you can do is you can join us in

59:53 passing a resolution and

59:54 we’re going to present that to the board here in just a few

59:57 minutes in committing to be

59:58 a community supporting families and committed to early literacy.

1:00:04 And it is my vision, my true hope that Brevard County becomes a

1:00:09 place that no matter where

1:00:11 a family goes, whether it’s the grocery store, the dentist, the

1:00:15 hair salon of the drugstore,

1:00:17 that they see images and reminders of, we as a community

1:00:21 surround you and support you

1:00:23 in the developing your child for the love of learning and a love

1:00:27 for literacy and we’re

1:00:29 going to help you ensure they thrive by five and we can send

1:00:33 them on to a very positive

1:00:34 and amazing journey the rest of their K-12 years in Brevard

1:00:39 schools.

1:00:40 So we will continue to stay in touch with our families through

1:00:45 at least the first birthday

1:00:47 with another book to our families.

1:00:49 So we will be setting up a way for families to connect through

1:00:52 our website, but we’re

1:00:54 also, I make Mr. Bruin a little nervous, I give this disclaimer

1:00:57 every time, but we’re

1:00:59 in the early stages of development of a Thrive by Five app.

1:01:04 I’m speaking it into existence.

1:01:07 So that our families have that interactive connection with Thrive

1:01:11 by Five and we can

1:01:12 push out new information to them because as we know, those

1:01:16 stages change fast in a kid’s

1:01:18 life.

1:01:19 So we’ll be making that available to our families as well.

1:01:23 And resources, again, the website will be dynamic and developed

1:01:28 along helping families

1:01:30 through the entire development of their kid.

1:01:35 So happy to answer any questions at this time of the board

1:01:39 before I ask Mr. Bruin to come

1:01:41 up and read the resolution for the official launch of Thrive by

1:01:46 Five.

1:01:46 I know you’re thinking, “Finally, COVID got in the way,” but no

1:01:52 more.

1:01:53 Anybody have any questions or comments for Dr. Wollan, Ms.

1:01:56 Campbell?

1:01:57 So I hope that you will get to include us on the packing

1:02:00 invitations, because I think

1:02:03 this is a great opportunity to get the community involved.

1:02:07 And just like you mentioned, Children’s Hunger Project, that’s a

1:02:10 great way to let people

1:02:11 know what we’re doing and to get volunteer hours and all that.

1:02:14 It would be great for students, high school students, hint, hint.

1:02:17 Those of you who have high school students, you need to earn

1:02:19 those hours.

1:02:20 But I love that and I hope we continue to involve the community

1:02:23 in this initiative.

1:02:24 It’s wonderful.

1:02:25 We are going to need the community’s help.

1:02:26 I alluded to we packed 500 bags.

1:02:28 Maybe someone was going to ask, “How many births do we have a

1:02:31 year in Brevard?”

1:02:32 Well, right now it’s over 5,000.

1:02:36 So we’ve got a few more bags to pack just to get ready for this

1:02:39 year.

1:02:40 So we need you.

1:02:41 All right.

1:02:42 Anyone else?

1:02:43 Ms. Jenkins?

1:02:44 Thank you, Dr. Mullins and everyone who is a part of this

1:02:48 initiative.

1:02:50 Obviously, I have a passion working with kiddos from birth to

1:02:52 five years old, so this hits

1:02:53 right at home for me.

1:02:55 I love your app idea and hopefully, as that starts to get

1:02:59 developed, maybe we can incorporate

1:03:02 my old department and Child Find and create some access for

1:03:05 families who really think

1:03:07 they might need some support and early intervention for their

1:03:09 students, and so we can catch those

1:03:10 kiddos sooner than later and make sure our kiddos are on par

1:03:13 when they come in for kindergarten.

1:03:15 Thank you.

1:03:16 Absolutely.

1:03:17 Great suggestion.

1:03:18 Thank you.

1:03:19 Ms. McDougall, did you … Well, you know how I was always

1:03:23 excited about

1:03:24 this program and I’m so thankful.

1:03:26 I’m glad that we are here and kicking it off.

1:03:29 And again, Jane, thank you for your department and for making

1:03:33 this a reality.

1:03:34 And yes, I have passed out the bags you gave me, and these are

1:03:38 so much nicer than the ones

1:03:39 we’ve had, so I’m excited about this.

1:03:43 This is the Gen 2 bag.

1:03:46 Five by five, 2.0?

1:03:48 Yep.

1:03:49 Got it.

1:03:50 Mr. Susan?

1:03:51 Yeah.

1:03:52 It gets me in my gut when I see what we give the new mothers.

1:03:59 I have five children, and being inside the hospital during those

1:04:04 times, you can look

1:04:05 down the hallway and there’s always one mother that doesn’t have

1:04:10 people coming in.

1:04:12 We had restrictions that were throughout the years that in the

1:04:16 beginning, years ago, you

1:04:18 could bring half the city inside your room, and lately it’s only

1:04:22 a couple of people.

1:04:23 But it’s a sad thing when there’s a single mom in there and not

1:04:26 to have that support

1:04:27 at home, and this is a nice thing to do.

1:04:30 It really is.

1:04:31 And I think what we need to do – Dr. Mullins, you made great

1:04:33 speech and brought levity to

1:04:35 the whole situation, but the reason we’re stepping in is because

1:04:38 it’s a serious thing.

1:04:39 And these kids need help.

1:04:41 When COVID hit and we were feeding those kids on mobile units to

1:04:44 just make sure that they

1:04:45 got fed, there’s kids out there that – because Children’s

1:04:48 Hunger Project feeds, and they

1:04:50 are such at a disadvantage.

1:04:52 So anything we can do with everything we have, I appreciate it,

1:04:55 Dr. Mullins.

1:04:55 That’s all.

1:04:56 Thank you.

1:04:57 » Thank you.

1:04:58 Any more comments?

1:04:59 I will just echo the appreciation, Dr. Mullins, I know this was

1:05:04 kind of your brainchild making

1:05:07 it a strategic priority, and you know, working with the little

1:05:11 ones myself, I know the ability

1:05:14 for them to learn at those young ages, even amazing things, and

1:05:18 so I’m super excited that

1:05:19 we’re going to be taking advantage of that learning opportunity

1:05:22 during those years.

1:05:24 What would echo Mr. Susan’s sentiments about realizing the need

1:05:27 in our community and how

1:05:29 this truly can, you know, thinking back about the student data

1:05:32 that we looked at today,

1:05:34 and those fragile subgroups that we looked at, I really think

1:05:37 that this has the potential

1:05:38 to impact, you know, how they start off and what that data looks

1:05:41 like for them for a long

1:05:43 time.

1:05:44 So thank you.

1:05:45 » If there’s no other questions, I’ll ask Mr. Bruhn to come up,

1:05:49 and I would be remiss

1:05:51 if I didn’t do a huge shout out to Mr. Bruhn and his team as

1:05:55 well in district communications.

1:05:57 You know, these are the experts in early childhood, these are

1:06:00 the experts in communications and

1:06:02 really framing everything from logos to messaging to how to

1:06:06 launch this, he has just stepped

1:06:09 up to the call and the charge and done a fantastic job.

1:06:13 Deborah Foley, who went out and really sealed the deal with our

1:06:17 health partners to bring

1:06:18 in tens of thousands of dollars annually to support this

1:06:23 initiative is no small feat.

1:06:25 So Mr. Bruhn, we appreciate your leadership and appreciate your

1:06:28 department.

1:06:29 » Good evening.

1:06:32 I also want to give a thank you to Kat Allen from my department

1:06:38 who did a great job of

1:06:40 this as well.

1:06:41 Here we go.

1:06:42 Whereas from the time a child is born, he or she is learning

1:06:46 every waking moment, in

1:06:47 fact, babies and toddlers are either learning or they’re

1:06:50 sleeping, and between birth to

1:06:52 age five, a child learns at the speed unmatched the rest of his

1:06:55 or her life.

1:06:56 It is during these years when more than 85% of a child’s brain

1:07:00 is formed, creating crucial

1:07:02 brain connections.

1:07:04 Whereas Brevard Thrive by Five will raise awareness about early

1:07:07 childhood literacy and

1:07:08 development, and whereas Brevard Thrive by Five will connect

1:07:11 with new parents in Brevard

1:07:12 County when they leave the hospital or hospital’s birthing

1:07:16 center with their new baby, and whereas

1:07:18 Thrive by Five gives Brevard families a central place to find

1:07:21 resources, information and best

1:07:23 practices for their children from birth to age five, and whereas

1:07:27 the initiative helps

1:07:29 provide a pathway for every family in Brevard to learn about the

1:07:32 importance of early literacy

1:07:34 beginning at birth, and whereas Brevard Thrive by Five

1:07:37 encourages a spirit of collaboration

1:07:39 with healthcare supporters, business partners, local cities,

1:07:43 civic organizations and community

1:07:45 leaders to serve Brevard families and their children, and

1:07:48 whereas research has proven

1:07:50 that early childhood literacy is a key factor to future success

1:07:54 in an education journey,

1:07:56 and whereas students who are behind when they start kindergarten

1:07:59 make up the largest portion

1:08:01 of school dropouts, having less than a 12% chance of attending

1:08:05 college, and whereas Thrive

1:08:07 by Five specifically supports goals outlined in the strategic

1:08:10 plan of Brevard Public Schools,

1:08:12 and whereas it is recognized that when children are engaged in

1:08:16 school, the community reaps

1:08:17 many benefits, including lower crime rates, an educated

1:08:20 workforce, a highly rated public

1:08:22 school system, and an attractive location for both employers and

1:08:26 employees to reside.

1:08:28 Be it resolved on October 26, 2021, that the Brevard Public

1:08:32 School Board publicly acknowledges

1:08:34 the Brevard Thrive by Five initiative as one that utilizes a

1:08:38 unique collaboration and support

1:08:41 the large network of supporting members that make up our

1:08:43 community, together, working together

1:08:46 to serve Brevard families and their children, and help every

1:08:49 child in the county thrive

1:08:50 by five.

1:08:51 - Thank you, Mr. Bruhn.

1:08:53 What are the wishes of the board?

1:08:54 - Move to approve.

1:08:55 - Second.

1:08:56 - Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Ms. Campbell.

1:08:57 Is there any discussion?

1:08:58 Hearing none, please vote.

1:09:05 - Still voting.

1:09:29 - The suspense is killing me, I just gotta tell ya.

1:09:52 I had to break the silence.

1:09:53 - And the motion passes five, zero.

1:09:54 - Thank you, school board, appreciate your support and

1:10:04 appreciate you journeying through

1:10:05 this with us over the last many months to this reality.

1:10:10 Sincere and genuine thank you to our health partners and your

1:10:13 commitment not only to give

1:10:14 us the opportunity to make this available to our new families,

1:10:17 but also partnering with

1:10:18 us financially.

1:10:20 If I can take one additional privilege, it’s been such a long

1:10:22 journey, can I ask the board

1:10:24 to come out, Bruhn?

1:10:25 We’re gonna give you a bag, you take a picture.

1:10:28 Mr. Bruhn, we should have put on our mission statement to serve

1:10:31 every future student with

1:10:33 excellence, but maybe you can Photoshop that in for our social

1:10:38 media launch.

1:10:40 - Thank you.

1:11:10 - All right, one more, so now we’re gonna point in our mission

1:11:27 and let our badge hold

1:11:33 up.

1:11:34 - So I’m gonna pay for this, thank you for that.

1:11:49 (audience applauding)

1:11:52 - Give it to a friend.

1:11:58 - Do you wanna take from, is there a copy of the preamble in

1:12:05 there, the thing in there?

1:12:09 That’s what I would do, claim that.

1:12:10 - With the Constitution.

1:12:11 - What is this, a T-shirt in there?

1:12:12 You guys get a T-shirt?

1:12:13 - You can get a T-shirt.

1:12:14 - It’s a T-shirt.

1:12:15 - If I can fit you.

1:12:16 - Extra large.

1:12:17 - All right, Dr. Mullins, we are back to you when you are ready,

1:12:31 sir.

1:12:33 - Next we will hear a presentation from the Brevard Federation

1:12:36 of Teachers, BFT, on issues

1:12:37 facing teachers and strategies for improvement.

1:12:40 Mr. Anthony Colucci, BFT President, will be providing the

1:12:46 presentation.

1:12:48 - Good evening board, my name is Anthony Colucci, I’m the

1:12:53 President of the Brevard Federation

1:12:56 of Teachers.

1:12:57 Tonight I’ll be discussing issues facing teachers and strategies

1:13:01 for improvement.

1:13:03 As you are aware, this year has been extremely challenging for

1:13:06 our teachers, I realize that

1:13:08 this is not just a Brevard problem, this is a Florida problem,

1:13:11 probably a national problem

1:13:13 as well, but we are here representing Brevard’s teachers.

1:13:17 There are approximately 160 instructional vacancies this year,

1:13:22 and I’m not gonna go

1:13:23 into the weeds whether it’s 210 or 110, there’s a lot of

1:13:27 classrooms without teachers right

1:13:29 now.

1:13:31 We’ve seen 208 resignations on board agendas this year, and 825

1:13:37 resigned or retired last

1:13:39 year.

1:13:40 It is an understatement to say that our teachers are worn out

1:13:45 and overextended.

1:13:47 The alarm bell for us was that the most common question we’re

1:13:50 getting in the office right

1:13:52 now is what is the district’s policy for resigning?

1:14:02 The greatest failure is the failure to try.

1:14:07 I am not a consultant, I am not gonna stand up here and say I

1:14:11 have a silver bullet to

1:14:12 fix these issues, I’m not going to do that.

1:14:16 If I used the word solution tonight, it was a mistake, because I’m

1:14:19 talking about strategies

1:14:21 for improvement.

1:14:23 But doing nothing or little is certainly not going to help.

1:14:26 The strategies for improvement that we’re suggesting should come

1:14:31 as no surprise to staff.

1:14:32 We’ve been advocating for many of these items for months.

1:14:36 What we’re seeking tonight is that this board uses its authority

1:14:40 to direct Dr. Mullins to

1:14:41 implement these strategies within the timelines VFT is

1:14:49 suggesting.

1:14:52 Based on qualitative feedback from members, emails, phone calls,

1:14:56 meetings, school visits,

1:14:58 we’ve identified three big issues.

1:15:01 Our union of over 3,000 dues paying members is the voice of our

1:15:06 teachers.

1:15:07 As a board, you need to take that seriously.

1:15:10 As the elected representative of the teachers, I’m offering

1:15:14 viable and practical ideas that

1:15:16 can be implemented quickly.

1:15:18 We are seeking to be a solution driven union, but we could only

1:15:22 do so if the board is willing

1:15:24 to act.

1:15:25 My hope is that the presentation is not you listening to me and

1:15:29 moving on without acting.

1:15:32 I’m asking that this board commit to these actions and the

1:15:36 timelines I presented.

1:15:38 The first issue we’ve identified is a lack of coverage.

1:15:42 There are not enough teachers.

1:15:43 There are not enough subs.

1:15:46 Earlier in the year due to COVID, we had a ton of teacher absences.

1:15:50 Teachers are being pulled from their planning periods or their

1:15:54 actual jobs to cover.

1:15:55 This can be multiple times per week.

1:15:57 We’ve heard of teachers losing their planning periods for the

1:16:01 entire week.

1:16:02 This is a big problem for all, including our ESE teachers who

1:16:05 are unable to write IEPs

1:16:07 during the school day to our resource teachers down here at ESF

1:16:11 who are missing several days

1:16:12 a month to cover classes at schools, which is preventing them

1:16:16 from doing the jobs they

1:16:17 were hired to do.

1:16:20 The second issue that we have identified is student discipline.

1:16:23 Our teachers are dealing with unruly students, students hitting

1:16:27 and eloping, and being overall

1:16:28 difficult and non-compliant.

1:16:31 The third issue is morale.

1:16:34 This pandemic is only a year and a half old, but this is the

1:16:38 third school year that our

1:16:41 teachers are dealing with the impact of COVID.

1:16:45 It pangs me to say it, but many teachers don’t feel good about

1:16:50 teaching right now.

1:16:52 You know, the excitement is waning.

1:16:54 There’s a sense that it’s not worth it, and they’re looking and

1:16:57 seeing job opportunities

1:16:59 elsewhere.

1:17:06 Without a doubt, all these issues have an impact on one another.

1:17:10 We must try to improve in these areas.

1:17:12 We must try.

1:17:14 If there’s a silver lining in all these issues, it’s that

1:17:18 improvement in one area will help

1:17:20 improve the others as well.

1:17:27 So what I’m going to offer now are some strategies for

1:17:30 improvement, things that we think can

1:17:32 be done quickly to help with these various issues.

1:17:36 So as for the issue of coverage, the first thing we’d like to

1:17:40 see done is one of our

1:17:41 directors meet with all teachers that put in their two weeks

1:17:45 notice, and we think this

1:17:47 should be done immediately.

1:17:50 And by this, I’m saying a teacher says, “I’m going to resign,”

1:17:53 turns in their paperwork

1:17:55 to the school secretary or principal.

1:17:57 They alert the director of that school.

1:18:00 The director has a face-to-face meeting with that teacher.

1:18:04 And what we believe can happen here is that these directors can

1:18:08 provide help to these

1:18:10 teachers.

1:18:11 These teachers can be heard, and we can stop the bleed.

1:18:15 We can stop the bleed, because we know if that teacher goes,

1:18:19 that teacher is not going

1:18:21 to be easily replaced.

1:18:23 So the better move is to make sure that teacher doesn’t leave in

1:18:27 the first place.

1:18:28 And we know that we can prevent these teachers from leaving,

1:18:31 because we do it all the time

1:18:33 in our office.

1:18:34 We do it every day in our office.

1:18:37 We help teachers stay in Brevard County and get the help that

1:18:41 they need.

1:18:42 We are asking that our secondary teachers are informed by the

1:18:46 end of November of the

1:18:48 possibility that they could be working seven out of seven,

1:18:52 meaning that they would give

1:18:54 up their planning period for the optional class stipend, which

1:18:59 is $3,509.

1:19:00 This is a Band-Aid, I understand, but there may be teachers that

1:19:04 are interested in doing

1:19:06 this for that supplement.

1:19:08 You also have it within your power to increase that supplement

1:19:11 using the ARP funds, because

1:19:13 this would fall within the scope of that grant funding.

1:19:18 Even if five teachers take us up on this because a memo was sent,

1:19:22 that’s five classes that

1:19:24 don’t need to be covered every day.

1:19:31 The next thing we believe will help with coverage is to ensure

1:19:36 an equitable rotation, and we’re

1:19:38 asking that this is also completed by the end of November.

1:19:43 What we’re asking is that directors of each school request and

1:19:47 review with the principal

1:19:49 the schedule they have for coverage to make sure that it’s being

1:19:53 done in an equitable

1:19:54 manner.

1:19:55 What I mean by this is it should not be Ms. Jenkins being called

1:19:59 to cover every day while

1:20:01 Mr. Susan sits in the lounge eating potato chips, all right?

1:20:06 Probably it would be a true story, just saying.

1:20:08 So we want to make sure that this is being done fairly.

1:20:12 We believe in most cases it is, and we also are very grateful to

1:20:16 the many, many administrators

1:20:19 who are jumping in on this rotation schedule.

1:20:24 We’re asking that administrators are generous with flex time,

1:20:30 comp time, and personal time.

1:20:33 We believe that this could be implemented by the end of November

1:20:37 once again.

1:20:37 Perhaps the principals get the information at a leadership

1:20:41 meeting or memo, and what

1:20:43 we mean by this is we’re not talking about providing comp time

1:20:48 and personal time.

1:20:49 We’re talking about using it.

1:20:51 There are actually some caveats in our contract about using

1:20:54 these benefits.

1:20:55 For instance, personal time currently requires that teachers

1:21:00 take at least a half a day,

1:21:02 and comp time requires a request two days in advance.

1:21:06 So what we’re saying, it’s better for a teacher to miss an hour

1:21:10 or two if they need to run

1:21:11 an errand rather than miss a half a day.

1:21:14 So we ask that principals are more flexible on that.

1:21:20 And finally, we have increased sub pay.

1:21:23 We believe that you guys can implement this by January.

1:21:26 I recently heard from an administrator that it wasn’t until this

1:21:32 month that their first

1:21:34 sub picked up at the school.

1:21:36 Until October.

1:21:37 They’ve not been able to secure us up.

1:21:40 I was talking to a substitute the other day, and she pointed out

1:21:43 that her high school students

1:21:45 are making more money than she is in their part time jobs.

1:21:51 We know we have to get to $15 an hour.

1:21:55 I believe you guys have five years to get there.

1:21:58 And what I’m suggesting is get there sooner.

1:22:00 You have to get there.

1:22:02 Get there sooner.

1:22:03 It cannot hurt to pay people more money to do the job.

1:22:07 And you have the ARP money available to help you reach that

1:22:16 point as well.

1:22:19 Strategies for improvement for discipline.

1:22:23 First and foremost, we need to make sure all our schools are

1:22:26 following the district’s discipline

1:22:28 plan.

1:22:30 And we believe that should happen by the end of November once

1:22:34 again.

1:22:35 Lots of hard work and important work to ensure equity and

1:22:38 reasonable corrective actions have

1:22:40 gone into the discipline plan over the past five years.

1:22:43 BFT has been a part of those efforts.

1:22:47 It’s been really disappointing to learn that some schools are

1:22:50 using minor infraction forms

1:22:51 instead of referrals.

1:22:54 Often these infraction forms prevent a teacher from writing a

1:22:57 referral until the student

1:22:59 commits the same offense four times.

1:23:02 And according to our discipline plan, some of these infractions

1:23:05 are level one and level

1:23:07 two offenses.

1:23:09 Teachers must have the ability to write referrals to ensure an

1:23:12 appropriate learning environment

1:23:14 for students.

1:23:15 And it’s extremely important for BFT and BPS to ensure it’s

1:23:19 being done correctly so we

1:23:21 can properly track discipline.

1:23:25 We’re also asking that the referral process is reviewed with all

1:23:29 administrators and teachers.

1:23:31 That could happen through principals meetings and staff meetings

1:23:35 by the end of November.

1:23:36 It seems that some of our new teachers do not even understand

1:23:40 what the process is to

1:23:41 write a referral.

1:23:43 And perhaps some administrators don’t know to return a process

1:23:47 referral back to the teacher

1:23:49 for them to review.

1:23:52 We’re asking that clear guidelines and communication surrounding

1:23:55 the placement of students with

1:23:57 disabilities be created by the end of November.

1:24:03 We’re asking that the ESE department creates this, some kind of

1:24:09 guideline infographic something.

1:24:13 Because what we know is there can be a long and drawn out

1:24:16 process with seemingly no finish

1:24:18 line to get a student the appropriate staffing that they need.

1:24:23 Oftentimes we have a student who is placed in one setting and

1:24:26 the teachers feel strongly

1:24:28 that that is not the appropriate setting.

1:24:31 They collect data, they collect more data, they collect more

1:24:34 data and never seems to

1:24:35 get to the point where this student is moved.

1:24:38 So we’re looking for clear guidelines on that.

1:24:44 Finally we’re asking that the district use its art money to hire

1:24:48 additional district

1:24:49 peer mentors, behavior analysts, and school counselors as well

1:24:53 as provide more district

1:24:55 based PD in this area.

1:25:06 In these tough times some of our teachers may need additional

1:25:09 support including district

1:25:10 peer mentor teachers and behavior analysts.

1:25:13 We have three district peer mentor teachers who are trying to

1:25:17 get to approximately 80

1:25:18 schools.

1:25:19 They might have several teachers at each of those schools that

1:25:22 need support.

1:25:23 If we have more of those folks we will be able to provide the

1:25:27 support that these teachers

1:25:29 need and hopefully provide them the help they need with

1:25:33 discipline and keep them in the

1:25:35 classroom.

1:25:37 We also believe that more district based professional

1:25:40 development should be offered.

1:25:42 I’m just going to say that the BFT believes that the school

1:25:45 based professional development

1:25:47 is not working.

1:25:50 Teachers used to run to PD when it was district based.

1:25:55 Since it’s been school based they now run from it and this has

1:25:59 been an ongoing issue.

1:26:01 We also know that school counselors, more school counselors need

1:26:05 to be hired to deal

1:26:06 with post pandemic issues concerning mental health and social

1:26:11 issues and that could be

1:26:12 done using our funding.

1:26:15 We realize it is difficult to hire right now so we’ve put in a

1:26:19 start of next school year

1:26:21 for that.

1:26:26 In the area of morale we have several strategies for improvement.

1:26:34 First is to recognize and appreciate the circumstances in which

1:26:38 teachers are working immediately.

1:26:40 That could start right here tonight.

1:26:45 This can’t be said enough you know and the message we might tell

1:26:49 our teachers is maybe

1:26:50 we can’t fix it but we’re going to at least acknowledge it.

1:26:54 We know that this is hard.

1:26:56 There is no easy fix and we are aware and thankful of your

1:27:01 contributions.

1:27:03 We all need to be saying that until we are blue in the face.

1:27:07 They need to hear that we know what they’re going through.

1:27:13 We’re asking that we put student achievement second to student

1:27:18 and staff well-being immediately.

1:27:22 I want to clarify this.

1:27:25 The BFT believes in the importance of student achievement but we

1:27:28 believe the best way to

1:27:30 achieve this is with a happy and full fully staffed workforce.

1:27:35 For instance I heard from an ESE teacher yesterday that the

1:27:39 other ESE teacher at her school resigned

1:27:42 which puts the entire workload on her.

1:27:45 She is now scared and overwhelmed and thinking of resigning

1:27:49 herself.

1:27:50 What I’m saying is in this situation making sure that teacher

1:27:54 feels supported will result

1:27:57 in greater student achievement than stressing about data or

1:28:01 pacing guides.

1:28:02 In other words we believe students with teachers will outperform

1:28:07 those without teachers and

1:28:09 those with happy teachers will outperform those with miserable

1:28:13 teachers.

1:28:14 There’s seemingly too much pressure from the top to bring scores

1:28:19 up.

1:28:20 We need to take a breather with this new reading curriculum and

1:28:24 recalibrate our expectations

1:28:26 of its implementation.

1:28:28 It is putting many teachers over the edge.

1:28:32 Another suggestion for improvement we have is an easy one.

1:28:36 Jeans day every week, monthly district wide spirit days.

1:28:42 We can implement these things almost immediately.

1:28:45 The EFT is willing to publicize those things.

1:28:48 It’s simple things.

1:28:50 Now am I saying that by wearing jeans all these problems are

1:28:54 going to go away?

1:28:55 No, but I’m saying it’s a little token of appreciation to our

1:29:00 teachers.

1:29:01 You know what?

1:29:02 You’re killing yourself.

1:29:03 Wear jeans tomorrow.

1:29:04 When I was a teacher I would have been glad to hear that so I

1:29:06 didn’t have to go home and

1:29:08 iron my pants at night.

1:29:10 It’s the little things like that.

1:29:13 We’re asking that administrators start using some of their early

1:29:17 release days for team

1:29:19 building.

1:29:20 We believe they can start implementing this in November.

1:29:23 Team building can’t just be a one and done.

1:29:25 Oftentimes we have schools doing team building during preplanning

1:29:29 and that’s the end of it.

1:29:32 The team building should be fun and bring staff together.

1:29:39 Our next suggestion for improvement is an optional extended day

1:29:43 and we believe that

1:29:44 could be implemented by the end of November.

1:29:47 Once again we have this ARP funding and we can use ARP funding

1:29:50 to pay teachers for the

1:29:52 work they’re already doing by being compensated for an extra

1:29:57 hour a day.

1:29:58 What I’m saying is if these teachers are on campus, if they are

1:30:01 grading papers, meeting

1:30:03 with students, calling parents, writing IEPs, and we can’t hire

1:30:08 additional folks to do that

1:30:10 work like that grant funding allows us to, well let’s compensate

1:30:14 the folks who are doing

1:30:16 that work.

1:30:21 We are asking that the morale committee is revived by the end of

1:30:26 November.

1:30:27 Some of you might remember we used to have a morale committee.

1:30:30 We used to have a regular jeans day.

1:30:33 You might remember we had an employee picnic several years back.

1:30:37 Those ideas came through the employee morale committee.

1:30:42 Once again VFT is willing to help with this effort.

1:30:47 Next suggestion is let teachers periodically leave with students.

1:30:51 We believe this could be done starting in November.

1:30:56 My guess is many of our veteran administrators probably are

1:31:00 already doing this.

1:31:01 Many of our newer administrators are nervous about doing

1:31:04 something like this without having

1:31:07 permission granted to do so.

1:31:09 Idea here is simple.

1:31:10 You’re working hard.

1:31:12 You’re working a lot.

1:31:13 You have an enormous amount of pressure on you.

1:31:15 We’re asking a lot from you.

1:31:18 You know what?

1:31:19 If you can, if you don’t have something pressing to do, you can

1:31:23 leave when the kids do.

1:31:26 Go to Starbucks, get a coffee, go get a milkshake, go to the gym,

1:31:29 go take a nap, whatever it

1:31:30 is.

1:31:31 It’s these little things to show appreciation to our teachers

1:31:35 that can go a long way.

1:31:37 And then finally we’re asking to improve veteran teacher pay.

1:31:42 That would happen at the bargaining table.

1:31:45 I know you are all very well aware of that issue and concerned

1:31:49 about it.

1:31:50 But a teacher coming into this district with 20 years of

1:31:53 experience, if somebody leaves

1:31:55 Orange County tomorrow and comes here, will be making $46,550,

1:32:01 which is the exact same

1:32:03 amount that a teacher who is very first day in the classroom

1:32:08 tomorrow as well.

1:32:10 Somebody like me who is a 22-year teacher, I’m only making $3,000

1:32:15 or $4,000 more than

1:32:16 a brand new teacher.

1:32:18 It doesn’t quite give you a sense of excitement when you see

1:32:23 that happening.

1:32:25 And by no means am I suggesting that is this school board’s

1:32:29 fault.

1:32:29 We clearly know that it’s legislation that has intensified this

1:32:34 issue.

1:32:34 What we’re asking for you to do is find a way to help get around

1:32:41 what the state has

1:32:42 created.

1:32:50 And finally, my ask right now is will one or more of you

1:32:55 champion one of these issues,

1:32:58 coverage, discipline, or morale, and work with BFT, Dr. Mullins,

1:33:02 and staff to implement

1:33:04 these ideas in a timely manner.

1:33:06 Now I know Matt’s like, oh, yeah, my picture’s first.

1:33:10 And yeah, and Misty’s going, why do I only have a half a circle

1:33:14 there?

1:33:15 And it’s just what it did when I pressed enter.

1:33:20 These strategies for improvement from your teachers must be

1:33:24 taken seriously and not get

1:33:26 kicked to staff and hope they get done.

1:33:28 This elected board must use its authority to ensure staff

1:33:32 implement these ideas.

1:33:34 I will take any questions that you may have.

1:33:36 » Anyone have questions for Mr. Colucci?

1:33:39 » I just have something to say.

1:33:42 » I’m sorry?

1:33:43 » I just have something to say.

1:33:45 » Sure.

1:33:46 Go ahead.

1:33:47 » Thank you, Mr. Colucci.

1:33:48 I think it’s important for people who are watching to recognize

1:33:52 that BFT represents

1:33:53 60% of our teachers.

1:33:55 And so if we don’t, whether or not we agree or disagree on

1:33:58 things, if we don’t take at

1:33:59 least the opportunity to listen to what they’re presenting, we’re

1:34:02 also not listening to 60%

1:34:03 of our educators.

1:34:04 So it’s something really important that we need to kind of focus

1:34:08 on.

1:34:08 And you know, something you’ve kind of touched across your

1:34:12 entire presentation, you know,

1:34:14 we talk often about grace and flexibility over these past 18

1:34:19 months of COVID.

1:34:20 But I think it’s really important for us to really remember, you

1:34:22 know, the grace and flexibility

1:34:24 that all of our staff has given their community.

1:34:29 And it’s time for us to double down and recognize there are

1:34:32 these little things that we can

1:34:33 really make a huge difference when it comes to our educators and

1:34:36 make a huge difference

1:34:37 in their lives.

1:34:39 So I appreciate you guys, you know, you know, I’m an ally and I’m

1:34:41 here to champion anything

1:34:42 you need.

1:34:43 Thanks.

1:34:44 » Thanks, Ms. Jenkins.

1:34:45 Anyone else?

1:34:46 Ms. Campbell?

1:34:47 » All right, thank you, Mr. Colucci, and I have to tell you, I

1:34:52 thank you for coming

1:34:54 up with some ideas that don’t necessarily cost money.

1:34:57 It’s always good to have a little variety, but really some great

1:35:02 ideas.

1:35:02 I, you know, I’ll jump right in here and be, I don’t know if Ms.

1:35:07 Jenkins may have beat me

1:35:09 to it, and just say, you said you wanted us to immediately start

1:35:12 saying thank you.

1:35:14 And I will continue to say thank you to our teachers.

1:35:16 I was just hearing, I saw a Facebook post this morning from a

1:35:20 teacher who is very gentle

1:35:22 and very positive all the time, but just shared her heart of

1:35:25 what a tough time it’s been,

1:35:27 especially over the last six months, because of all the craziness

1:35:32 in our public division.

1:35:34 And sometimes that ire gets aimed at teachers because people say,

1:35:38 oh, education, everybody,

1:35:40 it’s a system and it’s trying to corrupt our children or

1:35:43 whatever.

1:35:44 And the truth is, the people who teach in our schools come from

1:35:46 our community.

1:35:47 They are a reflection of our community, and some of them are

1:35:49 conservative and some

1:35:50 of them are liberal, and, you know, they really have a tough

1:35:54 time no matter

1:35:54 which political meeting they have, and they need our support.

1:35:57 And so I’m very thankful, and I am really thankful for our

1:36:00 community who has stepped

1:36:01 up our business partners to say thank you to our teachers as

1:36:05 well.

1:36:05 I have a question for you about one of the very first things you

1:36:09 mentioned.

1:36:09 You chose – I was wondering why you picked the director to meet

1:36:15 with those teachers

1:36:17 who have given their two-week’s notice, because I know you guys

1:36:19 get those calls.

1:36:20 You said that, but I’m wondering why that particular –

1:36:23 because, you know, who’s going to be most effective to keep that

1:36:26 person in the building?

1:36:28 » So I tried to put Dr. Mullins there, but he tells me he’s

1:36:31 busy enough as our –

1:36:33 » He is.

1:36:34 » – Ms. Klein and Dr. Sullivan.

1:36:36 So sometimes it’s my belief that oftentimes these teachers have

1:36:42 already discussed the issue

1:36:44 with the principal and have felt like they didn’t have relief

1:36:47 from the principal,

1:36:48 so that is the next person up from the principal.

1:36:51 » Okay. Thank you.

1:36:56 I just want to point out, you’ve mentioned the ARP funds a few

1:36:59 times, but, you know,

1:37:00 if you paid attention to the last board meeting that we don’t

1:37:02 really have control –

1:37:03 we don’t have access to that money, but we also – part of that

1:37:06 is it has to be discussed

1:37:07 by the community, so certainly please encourage your teachers to

1:37:10 access the portal, you know,

1:37:13 and you guys as well to put those ideas in there, because

1:37:16 certainly there are some things

1:37:18 that are possibilities as we dream big for those plans.

1:37:23 I think – oh, you mentioned more PD on the discipline slide, I

1:37:29 believe.

1:37:30 Do you have some specific topics that you – or just general

1:37:34 behavior management,

1:37:35 classroom discipline kinds of things, or things specific to our

1:37:40 processes, I guess?

1:37:44 » Just general professional development on classroom management.

1:37:48 We were surprised in a BFT meeting, even some of our veteran

1:37:52 educators felt

1:37:53 like they could benefit from more PD in this area because of the

1:37:58 challenging situation

1:38:00 that they’re dealing with.

1:38:01 » Okay. A particular format for times, you’re talking about

1:38:05 like Friday release –

1:38:06 or Friday early release day district professional development

1:38:10 evenings, weekends.

1:38:11 » Well, when you step up to champion this area, we will discuss

1:38:14 the specifics.

1:38:15 » All right.

1:38:16 Well, I’m trying not to bargain away from the table.

1:38:18 The other thing is, you know, it’s time.

1:38:20 That time professional development is precious, and I know we –

1:38:25 but I don’t want to bargain away from the table about getting

1:38:27 some of that time to do it.

1:38:29 So that’s all I’ve got for right now.

1:38:33 » Thank you, Ms. Campbell.

1:38:35 Mr. Susan, I feel like you’re asking for the mic.

1:38:40 » Yeah, Anthony, there’s nobody that was running in my school

1:38:43 to PD day.

1:38:43 I’m just not going to lie to you.

1:38:45 Professional development was good, but it wasn’t like we were

1:38:48 running to it.

1:38:48 Genes, I love it.

1:38:50 Committees, yes.

1:38:51 The only thing is, is that if we do a spirit day,

1:38:54 one of them has to be a Florida State day.

1:38:56 That’s all I’m saying.

1:38:56 So I am not going to allow –

1:38:58 » It’s going to go over well.

1:39:01 » Dr. Mullins will support me on that.

1:39:02 But one of the things is, is you’re right about the person that

1:39:06 we go to for the next step,

1:39:08 is that there may be some internal conflict so that the director

1:39:11 might be somebody to do that.

1:39:12 One of the things you could do is do a Zoom meeting and record

1:39:15 it

1:39:15 so that others can use it for best practices and stuff like that.

1:39:18 So if an individual is leaving and we need to find out what’s

1:39:20 going on

1:39:20 and give them the opportunity, we can do something like that.

1:39:24 Like you coming up, just the way it is, you know, you guys do

1:39:27 represent 60% of the, you know,

1:39:29 the teachers and you guys have done a good job throughout the

1:39:32 years.

1:39:32 Appreciate everything that you guys have done as a former

1:39:34 teacher.

1:39:34 I appreciate it.

1:39:35 And I look forward to working on some of these committees.

1:39:38 » 65%, but who’s counting?

1:39:41 » Oh, sorry.

1:39:43 So 65%. Big deal.

1:39:49 » Dr. Mullins, looks like you might want the mic.

1:39:52 » Thank you, Madam Chairman.

1:39:53 I was going to save the best for last.

1:39:55 But I don’t need to jump in front of you if you would like to go

1:39:58 next.

1:39:58 » You’re good.

1:39:59 Go right ahead.

1:40:00 » Well, Mr. Colucci and I have had, I would suggest,

1:40:05 a great relationship throughout my superintendency.

1:40:08 And we’ve had conversations around some of these concerns,

1:40:12 several of them more recently.

1:40:15 I’m visiting schools more regularly.

1:40:18 Thank you to board members for joining me and getting into our

1:40:21 schools.

1:40:21 And the reality is, is, Anthony, I agree with you.

1:40:25 Our teachers have expressed these concerns.

1:40:28 I met with my teacher of the year, teachers of the year and

1:40:32 finalist over the last three

1:40:34 or four years as my superintendent’s ambassadors, actually, last

1:40:38 night.

1:40:38 And we had discussion around the challenges that they’re facing

1:40:41 and they echoed some of these same things.

1:40:44 But so have our administrators.

1:40:46 And I want to, and I think you alluded to that in your

1:40:49 conversation,

1:40:50 our administrators recognize the challenges that our teachers

1:40:54 are facing.

1:40:54 The shortage, Anthony, correct me if I’m wrong.

1:40:57 I think we were talking about this in the last several days.

1:41:00 We both predicted a teacher shortage crisis five years ago, five,

1:41:05 six years ago.

1:41:07 We didn’t know it was going to be compounded by a global pandemic.

1:41:13 But nevertheless, here is where we are.

1:41:17 And, you know, we know within BPS and many of our parents and

1:41:23 community understand

1:41:25 that I would suggest that this is the most important and noble

1:41:29 profession

1:41:30 that we have is educating our youngest kids and raising them up

1:41:34 to be the next generations

1:41:35 of leaders that we want leading our communities and our country.

1:41:41 And I would ask our community, I would echo Anthony’s charge, to

1:41:47 express the appreciation

1:41:49 to our teachers and our administrators and our staff across the

1:41:53 organization.

1:41:54 Anthony, many of the things that you’ve suggested aren’t just

1:41:57 benefits to teachers,

1:41:59 but they’re important elements to consider for all of our

1:42:02 employees.

1:42:03 So I appreciate the charge to join the commitment.

1:42:06 I will make the commitment to add these conversations to our

1:42:10 monthly conversation

1:42:11 that we have along with 1010 and BASA.

1:42:14 But I’ll also put it on my meeting agendas with the board

1:42:18 members

1:42:19 so the community understands I meet with board members one on

1:42:21 one at least formally every month.

1:42:24 And we discuss items along the way and I’ll add this to the

1:42:29 agenda so we keep it

1:42:30 on the forefront and we’ll certainly continue to be talking as

1:42:33 we move forward.

1:42:34 Thank you.

1:42:40 » Anthony, thank you very much for bringing this in.

1:42:42 I have two areas that I would be interested in working with you.

1:42:49 Certainly discipline kind of goes with social-emotional learning

1:42:53 and morale.

1:42:54 Both of those kind of came together, I think.

1:42:57 So I certainly don’t have a problem if the board doesn’t have a

1:43:00 problem with that,

1:43:01 my fellow board members.

1:43:03 And thanks for bringing– I agree with what Ms. Campbell said is

1:43:07 that it’s not all about money.

1:43:10 It’s about what we can do to help little things.

1:43:16 It doesn’t have to be something that’s going to necessarily cost

1:43:19 us a lot of money.

1:43:20 So thank you.

1:43:21 » Thank you.

1:43:22 » Thank you, Ms. McDougall.

1:43:25 And Mr. Colucci, I think, you know, I’m there for wherever you

1:43:29 need me to work on.

1:43:30 Where you have a gap, feel free to stick me in.

1:43:32 I know you started this presentation with a request for us to

1:43:36 commit to following your timeline

1:43:38 on all of the things that you put forward.

1:43:40 And I don’t think it will shock you to hear me say, I don’t

1:43:44 think as a board we can vote

1:43:46 to adopt your timeline on all these issues without having

1:43:48 conversations with Dr. Mullins

1:43:49 and staff and understanding the ins and outs of all of those

1:43:52 things.

1:43:53 I will, however, continue to have those conversations with Dr.

1:43:56 Mullins

1:43:57 as we have our one-on-ones and check progress on those things.

1:44:01 And I’m happy to step in and help on any of the initiatives you

1:44:05 would like for me to do.

1:44:07 » So can we declare tomorrow jeans day?

1:44:09 [ Laughter ]

1:44:13 » Walk away with that.

1:44:15 » Dr. Mullins, are you opposed to a jeans day tomorrow?

1:44:18 » I am not opposed to October 27th, Wednesday, October 27th,

1:44:23 being Brevard Public Schools National Jeans Day.

1:44:27 » There you go.

1:44:28 [ Inaudible Remark ]

1:44:32 » Well, I appreciate–

1:44:32 » So it’s your job to get the word out though, you know,

1:44:35 because I’m not assuming they’re all watching this meeting.

1:44:37 » Bruce, right there, send it out, bro.

1:44:40 » Appreciate the time and the consideration and I will be

1:44:43 following up with you guys.

1:44:44 » And thanks for bringing the solution.

1:44:46 We appreciate that.

1:44:46 » Have a good night.

1:44:49 All right, board members, we are going to be moving into public

1:44:52 comment.

1:44:53 We have approximately– well, not approximately, we have 26

1:44:56 speakers this evening.

1:44:58 I’m going to be asking for direction in a moment.

1:45:01 But before we get too far in direction, I just want to do a

1:45:05 check in and make sure do we–

1:45:07 do we need a break before we move into our public comment?

1:45:10 » Just a short break for me.

1:45:11 » OK. So if we could have just about a five-minute– Ms.

1:45:14 Campbell?

1:45:15 » Yeah, I just have a question because I know when we do our

1:45:18 policy adoption,

1:45:20 we have a separate– so are some of those going to be moved to

1:45:23 those times?

1:45:23 Are we going to hear them all different or–

1:45:25 » So Mr. Gibbs– well, OK, so I’ll go ahead and give you guys

1:45:28 the details.

1:45:29 We have 26 speakers.

1:45:31 We have eight that are not on agenda items.

1:45:34 We have–

1:45:46 We have seven that look like they are going to be speaking on

1:45:49 our public comment policy,

1:45:51 but many of them are speaking about more than one thing.

1:45:55 So, I’ll call them up during public comments so they can speak

1:46:01 to the other issue that they’re speaking to.

1:46:03 And then, you know, would respectfully ask that they utilize

1:46:08 that time to address all of their concerns.

1:46:10 So, but I mean, there’s only eight of them not on agenda items.

1:46:15 So, did that answer your question?

1:46:19 » Yes.

1:46:20 » OK. So with that, are we good to take a five-minute recess?

1:46:25 All right.

1:46:25 We will be back momentarily.

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1:59:49 » All right, we are back in session.

1:59:53 Board members, just for clarification, I have a correction.

1:59:57 We have 26 speakers.

2:00:00 Nine of them are not on agenda items.

2:00:03 The rest of them are on agenda items.

2:00:05 So, at this time, I will entertain a motion from the board as to

2:00:08 how you’d like to handle those.

2:00:10 [ Inaudible ]

2:00:19 » So, is that a motion to take all 26 speakers?

2:00:22 » Yeah, I move to let everybody speak at once.

2:00:24 » Is there a second on Mr. Susan’s motion?

2:00:27 All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

2:00:29 » Aye.

2:00:30 » Aye. Any opposed?

2:00:31 » Nay.

2:00:33 » All right, and the motion passes.

2:00:36 Ms. Jenkins, I didn’t hear you.

2:00:37 » Aye.

2:00:38 » The motion passes four to one.

2:00:40 Okay. We are now at public comments.

2:00:47 Each speaker is limited to three minutes.

2:00:50 We have a clock in front of me to help you keep track of your

2:00:52 time.

2:00:52 When your time is over, you will be asked to stop and allow the

2:00:55 next speaker his or her turn.

2:00:56 Always keep in mind that reasonable decorum is expected at all

2:00:58 times,

2:00:59 and your statement should be directed to the board chair.

2:01:02 The chair may interrupt, warn, or terminate a participant’s

2:01:04 statement.

2:01:05 When time is up, it’s personally directed, abusive, obscene, or

2:01:08 irrelevant.

2:01:09 Should an individual not observe proper etiquette, the chairman

2:01:11 may request the individual leave the meeting.

2:01:14 Let’s all encourage an environment appropriate for our children

2:01:16 who may be present or are watching from home.

2:01:19 We will start with our first three speakers.

2:01:22 And if you guys wouldn’t mind kind of getting on deck over there

2:01:25 for me.

2:01:26 We are going to be Katie Delaney, Karen Fulton, and Veronica

2:01:39 Diaz.

2:01:40 All right, Katie, whenever you’re ready.

2:01:42 » Thank you.

2:01:43 First I want to thank the four board members who stayed through

2:01:47 the entirety of the achievement gap and curriculum workshop

2:01:50 today.

2:01:51 It was great to kind of be involved in that and, you know, hear

2:01:54 you guys.

2:01:55 So I appreciate you guys who were there for that.

2:01:59 Switching gears, I wanted to read a quote by Barack Obama.

2:02:04 For those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and

2:02:09 the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of

2:02:13 history.

2:02:14 But that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench

2:02:20 yours first.

2:02:22 That being said, I’m hoping you all want to be on the correct

2:02:29 side of history.

2:02:31 Please let the illegal mask mandate expire.

2:02:34 Even with the parental opt out, it leaves room for forms to get

2:02:38 lost and for children to be harassed and abused.

2:02:41 Like sweet Sophia.

2:02:43 BPS failed her.

2:02:45 They abused her.

2:02:49 That was made possible by this illegal mandate.

2:02:53 I find it ironic that the union president got 40 minutes to

2:02:58 speak while I am the union president of my students union.

2:03:03 And we deserve at least three minutes.

2:03:08 This is an attempt to silence the public.

2:03:11 Nothing more, nothing less.

2:03:13 Please watch the workshop and all of you are in favor of this

2:03:16 new policy, having to pass something, having to pass something

2:03:21 could never be a reason.

2:03:23 Not videoing the meeting in its entirety will further the divide

2:03:28 and continue to destroy public trust.

2:03:31 Now is not the time to limit speech.

2:03:33 In our great republic, our founders called for robust debate.

2:03:39 You are not our rulers.

2:03:41 Frankly, the public should have more input.

2:03:45 And there should be more back and forth.

2:03:48 That is how we reach compromises and work together as a

2:03:52 community.

2:03:53 And I just want to comment on.

2:03:58 You know.

2:03:59 What was being said about how how the masks help bring the

2:04:02 numbers down.

2:04:03 Two charter schools in this county had similar if not better COVID

2:04:07 numbers, and they were mask optional, which they had very little

2:04:11 participation with masks.

2:04:13 And I know that because my children go to one of those schools

2:04:17 where almost no staff or children wear masks.

2:04:20 We are now into our fourth week with zero COVID cases.

2:04:26 So thank you, and I hope that you guys are on the right side of

2:04:29 history.

2:04:30 Thank you, Ms. Delaney. Ms. Colton.

2:04:40 Hi, I have three things I’d like to address tonight.

2:04:43 First of all, I’m representing Moms for Liberty.

2:04:46 Take that very seriously.

2:04:47 I wear this shirt because I want to represent this group of

2:04:53 people that I’ve affiliated with.

2:04:57 In all of my experience with Moms for Liberty, there has been no

2:05:00 discussion of anything inappropriate, no violence, no none of

2:05:05 that.

2:05:06 I’ve never heard anything like that.

2:05:08 And I’m very disappointed that that has been been brought

2:05:13 against us.

2:05:15 I think if anyone had any proof of anything like that, they

2:05:18 should bring it forward because that would be something that we

2:05:23 would seriously have a problem with.

2:05:26 It’s just not right to be accused of something that that you’re

2:05:31 not a part of.

2:05:32 It breaks the bonds of trust.

2:05:34 And I think I take that very seriously.

2:05:38 The second thing I want to talk about is is is another trust

2:05:42 issue.

2:05:43 We want to build trust and we want to unite our community.

2:05:47 We want to we don’t want to restrict parents.

2:05:50 Right. I know you don’t want to do that.

2:05:52 We need to be a team. We need to work together.

2:05:56 And why would we restrict these these these rights in a school

2:06:02 board meeting?

2:06:04 We have three minutes that we can speak.

2:06:06 I think that that’s something that we need to retain and not not

2:06:11 broadcasting the comments of parents since the message that what

2:06:15 they have to say is unimportant.

2:06:17 And I’m sure that we don’t want to do that. Parents are feeling

2:06:21 left out in the process of all of this.

2:06:24 And that’s not right. Parents are a part of the process.

2:06:30 The third thing I’d like to speak about is something that’s near

2:06:33 and dear to my heart.

2:06:34 And that is the little girl Sophia.

2:06:39 You know, parents have this precious commodity of their children

2:06:44 and they send them to the school with a trust that you’re going

2:06:49 to you’re going to take care of those children.

2:06:53 It takes trust to be able to do that. In the case of Sophia, it

2:06:57 takes an even greater trust.

2:06:59 She’s vulnerable. You can’t express herself.

2:07:03 And so I am very disappointed in the the situation with her.

2:07:10 I have a 56 year old brother with Down syndrome. And we have

2:07:14 fought for him every day of his life for 56 years.

2:07:20 We have fought for him when he started. There were no public

2:07:24 schools for him. And we had to fight for that.

2:07:27 And I strongly am very sad about what happened to Sophia.

2:07:33 And I think it’s the responsibility of the schools to make sure

2:07:36 things like that don’t happen.

2:07:37 And ultimately it’s your responsibility as a board to make sure

2:07:40 that doesn’t happen.

2:07:41 Thank you. Thank you.

2:07:45 As Ms. Diaz is approaching, our next three speakers will be Demani

2:07:51 Hosey, Molly Williams and Erin Davison.

2:07:54 Ms. Diaz. Hi board. My name is Veronica Diaz and I’m a mom of

2:07:58 two children in BPS.

2:08:00 I am new here. I just came from Miami about a year ago and I

2:08:03 have a background in medical social work for almost 20 years in

2:08:06 a very large health care system.

2:08:07 So wearing a well fitted face mask is not a foreign concept to

2:08:11 me.

2:08:11 It was a requirement and an annual competency competency we had

2:08:14 to complete every single year.

2:08:16 But I’m not here today to talk to you about data competencies

2:08:18 because we all know that certain board members don’t consider

2:08:21 any of this when making its decisions.

2:08:23 I’m here today as a terrified parent after learning about a

2:08:26 young girl with Down syndrome in your district who had a mask

2:08:29 forcefully tied around her head by her teacher,

2:08:32 restricting her breathing and her ability to speak because of

2:08:36 your mask mandate.

2:08:37 It terrifies me to send my children to school knowing that

2:08:40 someone charged with the responsibility of educating my child is

2:08:43 capable of doing this to a child, capable of doing this to

2:08:46 someone.

2:08:47 This alone should be evidence enough that the school board is

2:08:50 not qualified to make the decisions over my child’s bodily

2:08:53 autonomy or health care.

2:08:54 This task is the sole responsibility of the parent and their

2:08:56 physician.

2:08:57 The correct handling of masks is not always easy to achieve for

2:09:00 medical staff, much less the general public.

2:09:03 You can see everywhere that adults consistently fail to comply

2:09:06 with necessary hygiene regulations when it comes to wearing a

2:09:08 face mask.

2:09:09 It’s almost impossible to expect a teacher and not fair,

2:09:12 actually, who has 20 students to monitor the compliance of

2:09:16 necessary hygiene requirements that have not followed correctly

2:09:19 can counteract as a possible hazard to our kids.

2:09:23 I’m not anti-science or anti-vaccines.

2:09:26 I’m going to blow your minds when I tell you right now that I

2:09:29 myself am vaccinated for reasons that are none of your business.

2:09:32 But I stand here for medical freedom, for the right to make our

2:09:35 own decisions for ourselves and for our children.

2:09:37 Almost two years into this pandemic with readily available

2:09:40 vaccines, the issue of mandatory masking of our children should

2:09:43 be a moot point.

2:09:44 It’s really not a surprise to any of us that this issue is

2:09:46 obviously being driven by emotion and political agendas.

2:09:49 And quite frankly, we, the parents who fund the school system

2:09:52 with our tax dollars, have had enough of this charade.

2:09:55 In closing, in order to restore faith and trust within our

2:09:58 community, I respectfully ask the school board to acknowledge

2:10:02 the abuse that has transpired in one of our schools to one of

2:10:04 our students.

2:10:05 Made possible by the illegal mask mandates and a sloppy

2:10:08 institutional policy in which the school board has negligently

2:10:11 instituted without properly instructing its teacher how to

2:10:13 navigate.

2:10:14 And I would like the school board to return the control of

2:10:17 children’s bodily autonomy to the parents.

2:10:19 No more mask mandates. Indefinitely. Let our children be free.

2:10:23 Thank you.

2:10:36 Whenever you’re ready, say, My name is Damani Hosey, a family

2:10:36 physician with one child in Brevard Public Schools and two

2:10:43 children in Florida Virtual School.

2:10:48 I would like to thank those board members who followed the

2:10:52 science and instituted a mandatory mask mandate, a mandatory

2:10:56 mask policy.

2:10:57 The implementation of this simple public health measure has been

2:11:02 an undeniable success.

2:11:04 When masks were made mandatory, the average number of covert

2:11:08 cases in Brevard Public Schools per three day reporting period

2:11:12 dropped from five hundred and forty nine to one hundred and

2:11:15 eleven.

2:11:16 The average number of quarantines dropped from two thousand nine

2:11:20 hundred and ninety eight to four hundred and thirteen.

2:11:23 To put it another way, there were five times fewer covert cases

2:11:28 and seven times fewer quarantines after the board ordered

2:11:33 students and staff to be masked.

2:11:36 The benefits of this policy likely extended beyond our school

2:11:40 doors.

2:11:41 Brevard’s overloaded hospitals have seen a dramatic decline in

2:11:46 covert cases. This mirrors what we have known from the from

2:11:50 countless scientific studies.

2:11:53 Masks work and they work well. From a medical standpoint, the

2:11:57 question of whether masks curb the spread of covert 19 has been

2:12:01 asked and answered.

2:12:02 They do. But we must remain vigilant. Do not let success be the

2:12:08 enemy of the good.

2:12:10 It is not time to loosen mask mandates with opt outs and

2:12:14 exemptions.

2:12:15 Our experience this summer and early fall has demonstrated the

2:12:19 havoc that the Delta variant can reap if we do not have in place

2:12:23 mandatory mask policy.

2:12:25 During the Delta surge this summer, covert 19 hospitalizations

2:12:29 among children nearly quintupled in the United States, with

2:12:33 twenty three percent of hospitalized children being admitted to

2:12:37 the ICU.

2:12:38 And sadly, two percent of those hospitalized children dying.

2:12:44 According to the CDC, an estimated forty six percent of children

2:12:49 hospitalized with covert 19 had no known underlying condition.

2:12:53 And Brevard between ninety five and nearly one hundred percent

2:12:57 of all patients hospitalized with covert 19 are unvaccinated.

2:13:01 Our children are largely unvaccinated. Covert has the potential

2:13:09 to devastate many families and it threatens our children and our

2:13:11 community.

2:13:12 It needs to be taken seriously. Please reinstate the mandatory

2:13:17 mask policy with no opt outs until the pandemic is under better

2:13:22 control and our children have at least the opportunity to be

2:13:25 immunized.

2:13:26 Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Hosie.

2:13:34 And audience members, I will just remind you that you should not

2:13:37 be audibly responding during the public comment.

2:13:40 OK. It’s their time to speak. It’s not your time to voice your

2:13:43 opinion on what they’re saying.

2:13:44 So we need to be respectful and we need to let them have their

2:13:48 time.

2:13:49 OK. Molly Williams. Hi, Molly Williams. Our family resides in

2:13:55 District four.

2:13:57 It’s foolish to think someone can promise us safety. For the

2:14:00 last year, you’ve been selling something that’s impossible.

2:14:03 And in the process, you managed to take away our parental rights.

2:14:06 You haven’t necessarily gone about this in a very wise way.

2:14:09 You can shake your head all you want in disagreement that this

2:14:11 has never been about our parental rights, but it has.

2:14:15 And you strip those rights from me and many parents so you could

2:14:18 continue to sell something that you will never be successful at

2:14:20 selling.

2:14:21 I understand where you’re coming from. I truly do. I’ve listened

2:14:25 to you.

2:14:25 I hear you. I also understand why your words, actions and

2:14:28 policies you’ve put into place sound and look desirable to some

2:14:31 parents, because who doesn’t want safety?

2:14:34 Right. So when you say we are going to mandate masks and it’s OK

2:14:37 to disregard the law, it’s OK to take away parental rights.

2:14:40 And it’s OK for the overreach because if the kids just wear a

2:14:43 mask for 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, however long you want this

2:14:47 to go on, then you will pull us into safety.

2:14:50 But when I said that what you’re selling is impossible, it’s

2:14:52 because you cannot give us that.

2:14:54 Instead, it’s just a false promise of safety. As an individual

2:14:58 and as a parent, I stand firm in the fact that my family and I

2:15:00 choose to rest in the best security.

2:15:03 I stand firm in my freedom to make my own decisions that I

2:15:05 believe are best for myself, my family and my children.

2:15:09 And I stand by the fact that I’m grateful I live in a state that

2:15:12 gives me my right and freedom to my parental rights as it should

2:15:15 be.

2:15:15 Unfortunately, we’ve made our way down in an extremely ugly path.

2:15:19 The relationship between the parents and the school board is in

2:15:22 an ugly place.

2:15:23 There are distractions throughout our districts keeping us from

2:15:25 focusing on what’s important. And the Brevard parents and Brevard

2:15:29 school board are not being painted in a very good light.

2:15:32 I am fully aware of some policies that you will be voting on

2:15:35 this evening and based on how those votes go will determine if

2:15:38 you want to move forward or keep going down this nightmare of a

2:15:41 path that we are on.

2:15:42 I want to be an involved parent. I want to work with the school

2:15:45 board. I am a volunteer and I am a room parent at my child’s

2:15:48 school. I want to be involved.

2:15:51 Do you want involved parents? Do you want relationships with the

2:15:55 parents of the children in your districts?

2:15:57 Do you want that? Because seeing how certain issues have been

2:16:00 handled and certain policies getting voted on, I’m just not sure

2:16:03 if that’s what you want.

2:16:04 Full transparency from a parent who’s new to public schools.

2:16:07 This has been an embarrassment. It’s a shame and it’s a disgrace

2:16:11 what’s been happening.

2:16:12 You’ve certainly dealt our children a pretty crappy hand of

2:16:14 cards for a while now. And to be honest, we’re just done playing

2:16:17 the game.

2:16:18 Maybe one day we’ll be able to get back to what’s important.

2:16:21 Maybe one day the school board and parents will be able to work

2:16:23 together again like it’s supposed to be.

2:16:25 And if not now, I’m hopeful that one day we’ll be able to do

2:16:28 that. In the meantime, I am going to keep showing up.

2:16:32 I am going to keep fighting for my children and I am going to

2:16:35 try my very best to get things done the right way. Thank you.

2:16:38 Thank you. As Erin’s approaching, as Erin is approaching, our

2:16:44 next three speakers will be Elliot Davison, Julie Bywater, and

2:16:48 Matthew Dawley.

2:16:49 Erin? I was super disappointed when I showed up tonight after

2:16:56 checking the agenda every day, refresh, refresh, refresh, and

2:16:59 then seeing masking on it.

2:17:02 I thought it would just expire, but here we are again. So it was

2:17:06 certainly interesting to hear about Thrive by Five tonight.

2:17:10 And I’m going to go out on a limb and I’m guessing that nowhere

2:17:14 in early literacy research will you find evidence to support

2:17:18 that masking young children helps them develop in any way,

2:17:21 especially with their early literacy.

2:17:24 In fact, I’m most certain you will find the opposite. I’m also

2:17:28 shocked to see you want to continue the mask mandate for our

2:17:32 youngest learners, especially after what allegedly happened to

2:17:36 little Sophia at the school my kids are zoned for.

2:17:40 I was on the call you had with the DOE regarding compliance a

2:17:44 few weeks ago. They have the data. There’s virtually no

2:17:48 difference. I know you guys know this, but there’s no difference

2:17:53 with the numbers with all of the counties who did not have masking

2:17:58 mandates and the few counties who did have masking mandates.

2:18:02 So I cannot figure out what we’re doing here. I’m asking that

2:18:06 you reconsider continuing the mandate and end it immediately for

2:18:10 everyone, including our teachers. You can tell by what BFT said

2:18:15 like teachers got enough junk going on.

2:18:18 They don’t need to be dealing with mask, mask discipline,

2:18:22 discipline problems because of masking. Just end it. You can end

2:18:27 it tonight.

2:18:28 I’m also asking that you continue to allow all public comment to

2:18:33 be heard and to broadcast the entire meeting, including non

2:18:37 agenda public comment. When I can’t come to a meeting, I have

2:18:41 YouTube on and I’m watching.

2:18:42 And I benefit so much from hearing the public comment and from

2:18:46 hearing what people’s concerns are even getting ideas for like,

2:18:51 oh, maybe we could learn more about this or I don’t know about

2:18:55 this. Like, it’s just been really good and I know it’s a benefit

2:18:58 to the community and it also helps with that relationship

2:19:02 between the board and between parents to keep an open line of

2:19:05 communication, even if it is just broadcasting everything for us.

2:19:10 So I do think the BFT had some great suggestions that sounded

2:19:15 super reasonable. Our teachers do so much, and it certainly

2:19:19 would be would be great to see them supported, even if with just

2:19:23 some little things.

2:19:24 Dean stay. This is a super great start. All right. Thank you,

2:19:31 guys. Thanks, Erin. Elliot. Hi, I’m Elliot and I’m a Brevard

2:19:37 public school student.

2:19:40 And as you are all probably well aware of the school shooting

2:19:43 incident a few years ago where the fire alarm was pulled and

2:19:47 everyone left there, that was a safety policy that had to be

2:19:50 changed because it was found that it didn’t always work.

2:19:54 Masking is a safety policy. And I think that it should be

2:20:00 changed because it has been proven over and over. And you all

2:20:06 know the data, but that it does not work. So it can and should

2:20:10 be changed.

2:20:10 I also wanted to speak on this being like the board members

2:20:14 being respectful to their audience, because I have seen board

2:20:20 members on their phones, rolling their eyes, and I don’t

2:20:24 appreciate that.

2:20:26 And I don’t think anyone else here does. Thank you. Thanks,

2:20:32 Elliot.

2:20:38 Hello, I’m Julie bywater with moms for liberty tonight I was

2:20:41 supposed to speak on behalf of my senior son and all the seniors

2:20:44 in the county about allowing the return of school function

2:20:47 dances.

2:20:48 Sadly, there are more pressing issues at hand.

2:20:51 For example, the proposed limiting of public complex comment, I

2:20:54 wouldn’t get the chance to be heard the way I am being heard

2:20:57 tonight with the amount of speakers typically that we have, I’d

2:21:01 be limited to one minute at best.

2:21:03 But since it will never be a consent agenda item, dances would

2:21:07 likely be shoved to the end of the meeting with the video turned

2:21:10 off. After all, why should I be heard? I’m just a mom.

2:21:14 So much for encouraging parents to offer suggestions, which is

2:21:17 exactly what I did when I spoke about homecoming dances being

2:21:20 canceled. I gave you solutions, none of which were explored.

2:21:24 You keep asking for volunteers, but it seems like you only want

2:21:28 volunteers to do specific things at specific times, rather than

2:21:32 encourage creative collaboration.

2:21:34 One that might result in actually giving these kids a chance at

2:21:37 a normal school experience in all facets and mask again are now

2:21:41 on the agenda.

2:21:42 A late addition is that keeping these kids on a constant seesaw

2:21:46 with a dangling carrot in front of them only to slap that mass

2:21:49 back on their face. Remember, masks could always be optional for

2:21:53 those who chose to wear them.

2:21:55 These kids are real people. Not once have you had a panel that

2:21:57 included an adolescent mental health care provider. Not once

2:22:00 have you sought out any kind of student panel and asked them how

2:22:04 it was affecting them.

2:22:05 You make decisions based on selected information without even

2:22:08 acknowledging the largest stakeholders in the county, the

2:22:11 students. This affects them.

2:22:13 What kind of message do these kids get when they can be masked

2:22:16 practically anywhere in the county except school, including the

2:22:20 dual enrolled students at EFSC where masks are optional?

2:22:24 In the Florida today, it was suggested that grades seven through

2:22:26 12 could be mass optional, but mandated for K through six.

2:22:29 So we send the message that one group of kids has to be punished

2:22:32 while the others aren’t. And believe me, all these kids see

2:22:35 these masks as punishment.

2:22:37 Not to mention the distancing, the loss of activities deemed a

2:22:41 normal part of growing up process, the rites of passage you all

2:22:44 had the opportunity to participate in.

2:22:47 Those of you with children who vote to continue these measures

2:22:50 obviously do not have a high school student, let alone a high

2:22:53 school senior who has had all of these things taken away from

2:22:56 them.

2:22:56 And they’ll never get them back. They will never have an

2:23:01 opportunity to have a homecoming dance.

2:23:05 As Brevard students all watch across the state as the other

2:23:08 children get to go unmasked and attend school dancing dances,

2:23:12 including Orlando. Come on.

2:23:14 Orange County, your cure and mitigation are hurting children in

2:23:18 the name of politics.

2:23:20 I’d say I was disappointed in this board. That used to mean

2:23:23 something, but now it falls on deaf ears. And by the way, these

2:23:27 seniors are hurting.

2:23:29 They’re going to vote in the next election.

2:23:35 Matthew is approaching.

2:23:38 All right, guys, if we could hold the applause so I can get

2:23:40 through the names because people can’t hear me.

2:23:42 Okay. If you wouldn’t mind, I would appreciate it. As Matthew is

2:23:52 approaching, Karen Colby, Angie Houlihan and Susan Richards will

2:23:52 be next. Mr. Dolly, whenever you are ready, sir.

2:23:52 Hello, everybody. The village idiot is back. I apologize for my

2:23:56 absence the last few times.

2:23:59 I’m going to be forward and say that something that raises my

2:24:02 agitation level to 10 immediately is self aggrandizing.

2:24:06 And I cannot say how ripe the irony was in the air tonight to

2:24:10 see everybody up here.

2:24:12 Take a photo photo and have the audacity to point to a silence

2:24:15 to serve every student with excellence.

2:24:18 Because as most people in this room know, I’m an advocate for

2:24:22 over 100 parents that came together.

2:24:24 Pulled our money together and filed lawsuit against the school

2:24:26 board. And I’m telling you right now, Sophia is the one of many

2:24:31 cases.

2:24:32 One of many special needs and not special needs. They know about

2:24:37 them because the parents contact them and the staff.

2:24:40 Do they care? I do not know. But do they try to resolve the

2:24:43 issues? They do not.

2:24:46 And it’s difficult for me to sit here and clap for you to know

2:24:50 these kinds of things are going on to the teachers union and the

2:24:54 school board.

2:24:55 Did you go to a school when masks were optional? How many people

2:25:00 wore masks? You know, the overwhelming percentage of people did

2:25:04 not.

2:25:04 And like oligarchs, you made the decision for them. I know

2:25:07 teachers have reached out to the teachers unit about this and I

2:25:11 know they have told them to kick rocks.

2:25:13 Because by being an advocate for the parent, I’ve by accident

2:25:17 become an advocate for teachers because they called me with

2:25:21 their problem.

2:25:22 Misty Belfort knows this because we had a problem at our school

2:25:26 and the teachers went to their union, got no help, and they

2:25:30 contacted me and begged me to call the school board.

2:25:34 Teachers don’t want to wear jeans. Teachers want help. That’s

2:25:39 why they come to me.

2:25:41 You have an army of parents, right to left, that care. Get them

2:25:48 in the schools. Let them volunteer. You’re going to rebuttal and

2:25:52 say, well, people can volunteer.

2:25:53 Ask a teacher how many steps they have to go through to get a

2:25:56 parent in their classroom to volunteer. They don’t do it because

2:25:59 it’s too much work.

2:26:01 Look at all of them. Have them on campus helping the teachers.

2:26:06 My wife and I, more so my wife and she forced me to do it, used

2:26:11 to volunteer all the time.

2:26:13 We can’t because it’s too much work for the teachers. You want

2:26:17 to fix your substitute problem? I’ll substitute. Send me to

2:26:21 whatever school has all the problems, children.

2:26:23 I’ll do it. But I just can’t have faith when we’re going to sit

2:26:27 up here and pat our backs, which I think is a great program.

2:26:32 My child was speech delayed. Two of the board members know it

2:26:34 because we’re supposed to have conversations about it that didn’t

2:26:37 fruit to nothing.

2:26:38 But early intervention is important with reading and speech. I’m

2:26:41 telling you, man, this is a political thing and you all have got

2:26:45 to stop making political.

2:26:47 As I said, when the health people were here, ask questions to

2:26:50 find truth so we can find good answers for the kids, not what we

2:26:52 want. Thank you.

2:26:55 Karen. Karen.

2:27:07 I feel our families are upset, whether it’s one way or another,

2:27:15 people are upset. I want to thank the board for honoring the 50

2:27:17 to one agreement.

2:27:17 However, you’re still in discussions and about to vote upon

2:27:21 changing the mask policy for the K through six kids, which

2:27:26 includes many of those.

2:27:28 By five kids, you’re going to be back in violation. You’ve got

2:27:32 reverse mainstream and mainstream in there with the children to

2:27:35 affect them.

2:27:36 Yes, I had a child with a speech impediment and I had one that

2:27:39 was selected for her gifted status to be a reverse mainstream.

2:27:43 So I am on both sides of the fence and I know how important they

2:27:46 are. If they’re masked, they’re going to be useless.

2:27:50 You might as well put one of those robots in there that I robots

2:27:53 that just speak with no facial expressions.

2:27:56 I think that we need cameras in the rooms of the early

2:27:59 intervention classes, the K through five classes through six

2:28:03 classes, and especially as of the late occurrences that’s going

2:28:07 on.

2:28:07 I think the parents with children of special needs would be

2:28:10 happier and feel safer and more comfortable with you guys with

2:28:14 having these cameras in that classroom.

2:28:16 We all work with cameras. There’s cameras in here. There’s

2:28:19 cameras in the schools. There’s cameras in the hallway. I think

2:28:22 they should be in the classrooms because nobody’s in there to

2:28:25 speak for themselves.

2:28:26 And if you have a hearing impaired child who cannot speak, plus

2:28:30 being special needs on top of that, and you put an item on her

2:28:34 face, how can she speak?

2:28:37 She can’t even scream. I was horrified because it makes us look

2:28:42 bad.

2:28:43 I was horrified because it makes us look bad. We are better than

2:28:46 this as a community. We don’t have to mistreat our handicapped

2:28:50 children.

2:28:51 That’s not political. Correct. I’m sorry. I came here to praise

2:28:55 people and I was so upset by hearing the comments against this

2:28:59 child who is seven years old.

2:29:01 Special needs are not a seven year old child is still a seven

2:29:04 year old child, even though maybe she’s more like a three year

2:29:07 old child.

2:29:08 She really is defenseless. You guys, I know that that Max may

2:29:12 only mandate only happened because of three of you.

2:29:15 I’m addressing this only to Miss Belford. I’m asking you, please,

2:29:20 to reconsider your stances so that we can get our trust back in

2:29:23 you.

2:29:24 It’s very important. And yes, we want to be in the classrooms.

2:29:26 We want to help you. We want to help mend the rift.

2:29:30 The community is horrified. People are wanting to move here. And

2:29:32 all they’re seeing is the arguments over school.

2:29:35 Some people have been talking to mainstream media and they’re

2:29:38 seeing this in California. They think we’re fools.

2:29:41 They think you guys can’t handle us. We’re not a problem. We’re

2:29:44 not domestic terrorists. We’re moms. The lunatics were outside.

2:29:48 They didn’t come in. We like you guys. We want to work with you.

2:29:51 I know Mr. Sussman will tell you I’ve offered to volunteer in

2:29:54 certain ways.

2:29:55 In my career of 21 years of having kids in your school, I

2:29:59 volunteered constantly, plus ran a rec cheerleading team for a

2:30:03 different sports organization.

2:30:05 I appreciate you. Thank you, Karen. Angie Houlihan. Angie Houlihan.

2:30:19 My name’s Angie Houlihan and I’m a parent of a Brevard public

2:30:22 school child, as well as being a product of Brevard public

2:30:26 schools myself.

2:30:27 I just came out tonight to show my support to this board. And

2:30:30 thank you guys for implementing this mask mandate.

2:30:33 Obviously, the numbers have declined in our COVID cases in

2:30:35 schools, which that’s among the administrators and the teachers

2:30:40 as well as all the staff.

2:30:42 And just like that gentleman with the Teachers Federation was

2:30:45 discussing, we have such short supply of teachers and staff in

2:30:48 schools right now.

2:30:49 It’s important that every single one of them are in school

2:30:52 helping our children learn.

2:30:54 And I just wanted to thank you guys for putting this mask

2:30:57 mandate in and having some level of, you know, I guess,

2:31:00 community transmission or whatever.

2:31:02 I don’t know, a five percent positivity or whatever the rate is

2:31:06 so that this mask mandate stays in place when we have high

2:31:09 transmission transmission amongst our community and especially

2:31:14 in the schools.

2:31:15 So I just wanted to thank you guys for implementing this mask

2:31:18 mandate.

2:31:19 And I want to, you know, I guess address some of the things that

2:31:22 some of the folks are saying tonight.

2:31:24 If you want to get involved in your child’s school, you can join

2:31:27 their PTO.

2:31:28 That’s a great way to try to help out your school and support

2:31:32 them and support these teachers and support a pay increase for

2:31:35 these people, because a lot of them are not being paid well.

2:31:38 And it’s hard to attract quality candidates to teach and educate

2:31:42 our children when they’re being paid less than, you know, many

2:31:45 other professions coming out of four and six year degrees in

2:31:49 college.

2:31:50 So, again, I just came out to say thank you to this board for

2:31:53 implementing this mask policy.

2:31:55 I think you’ve saved a lot of lives, kept a lot of students and

2:31:59 staff healthy.

2:32:00 And I just wanted to thank you guys for that. So appreciate your

2:32:03 hard work. Thank you.

2:32:05 Thank you, Angie. Susan Richards.

2:32:11 As Susan’s approaching, the next three speakers will be Diana

2:32:14 Haynes, Judy Stevens and then Joanne Regan.

2:32:17 My name is Susan Richards. I have a daughter that goes to Viera

2:32:20 High School.

2:32:21 I’m not speaking about her tonight. I am speaking about Sophia.

2:32:25 Can you imagine my surprise when friends all over the country

2:32:28 have been talking to me about this case?

2:32:31 This case is one nationwide attention. And why?

2:32:36 The school says, oh, the school board made us put the mask on

2:32:39 the kids. We didn’t we didn’t want to tie a mask on her face,

2:32:43 but you wouldn’t keep it on.

2:32:44 They blamed it on the school board. They didn’t take

2:32:47 responsibility for it. They said it was the school board.

2:32:50 They talked to the parents about Sophia not keeping her shoes on.

2:32:54 Did they mention the best?

2:32:56 No. And how come if the mask is so important, she wrote a bus to

2:33:00 school every day,

2:33:01 got on the bus with no mask and came home every day without a

2:33:05 mask on except the one day where somebody forgot to take it off.

2:33:10 Why is that? If the mask is so important, why wasn’t she writing

2:33:14 and wearing it on the bus while she was going home?

2:33:17 This makes no sense at all. And the fact that this father has

2:33:22 gone nationwide.

2:33:24 Brevard County schools look horrible to the whole United States

2:33:29 now.

2:33:30 It was on Tucker Carlson just last night. That is a shame for

2:33:34 all of you.

2:33:35 And I know that you don’t want that. So I hope in the future you

2:33:39 will take into account these poor children who can’t even speak.

2:33:44 this poor girl

2:33:46 nonverbal. What was she supposed to do? She didn’t go home and

2:33:48 tell her mommy and daddy

2:33:50 that she was having to be forced masked every day. She had no

2:33:55 way to tell and that is a

2:33:56 crime.

2:33:57 Diana.

2:33:58 Hi, good evening. I came here this evening with a well-thought-out

2:34:14 well-researched comments regarding cameras in the classrooms and

2:34:21 in hallways and I believe

2:34:24 that in light of what has occurred, this is a necessity. It is

2:34:31 important that parents

2:34:32 have access to their children at all times. There is no reason

2:34:37 if you’re going to replace

2:34:38 intercom systems, you can just as easily put in cameras. The

2:34:45 incident that occurred with

2:34:47 Sophia is heinous. There’s no other word for it and had there

2:34:51 been cameras in the classroom,

2:34:54 it never would have happened and as the other gentleman

2:34:57 mentioned, there are other instances

2:34:59 where there is obviously either abuse, neglect or something

2:35:03 going on in these classrooms

2:35:05 to these children. We have cameras everywhere so there’s no

2:35:09 reason why a parent only or

2:35:13 a legal guardian has access to these cameras. They don’t have to

2:35:18 be for public viewing.

2:35:21 Then some events unfolded in the last 10 days that went against

2:35:25 everything that I was raised

2:35:27 to believe in on how one conducts oneself in life. The biggest

2:35:32 violation that ever could

2:35:33 occur in my world is the harming of innocent children and

2:35:37 animals. I was completely, totally

2:35:39 and utterly appalled by the actions of members of the school

2:35:43 board. Violating the mask mandate

2:35:45 set forth by our government and then going on national TV and

2:35:48 crying victim because parents

2:35:50 that saw that broken mandate as a harmful event to their

2:35:53 children and chose to voice

2:35:55 their concerns doesn’t make you a victim. Then it got worse. As

2:36:00 we all know, the innocent

2:36:01 disabled child with no ability to communicate her frustration,

2:36:05 her pain, her inability to

2:36:07 breathe, her uncomfortableness was forced to endure all of the

2:36:13 above for weeks, days

2:36:15 and hours. That is beyond unconscionable. She can’t tell us what

2:36:21 other things she felt

2:36:22 because again, she’s nonverbal. This was all done as a direct

2:36:26 result of the mask mandate

2:36:28 that the three members of this board chose to violate. Now, I

2:36:34 can get up here and I can

2:36:35 make a speech about as a taxpayer, I pay your salaries, okay?

2:36:40 And I can also speak about

2:36:42 my first amendment rights where I can say whatever it is I

2:36:46 choose to say to you in whatever

2:36:48 language I choose, but I have a sense of decorum, I hope, and I’m

2:36:53 going to try not to do that,

2:36:55 but I can tell you now that I’m going to leave you with this. If

2:36:59 you thought Randy Fine’s

2:37:00 statement was there’s a special place in hell for those who did

2:37:04 this to Sophia was horrendous,

2:37:07 I can tell you that some of you, which is in this room-

2:37:09 Thank you, Ms. Haynes. We appreciate you joining us this evening.

2:37:16 Hey, then. Did you hear that?

2:37:18 Guys, once again, if I could just ask you so everyone can hear

2:37:21 when I’m calling their

2:37:22 names and calling up the next group of people, can we just hold

2:37:24 applause? It doesn’t matter

2:37:26 to me what side of the issue you’re on. If we can just hold

2:37:28 applause so we can get through

2:37:30 everyone, that would be fabulous.

2:37:36 No, I didn’t hear it.

2:37:47 Ms. Stevens, when you’re ready.

2:37:50 My name is Judy Stevens. I’ve lived in Brevard County for over

2:37:55 30 years, so I’ve had kids

2:37:58 through the school system and grandkids. A couple of weeks ago,

2:38:05 I was able to come and

2:38:08 review the ELA curriculum for K through six, and while talking

2:38:15 to two of the women from

2:38:18 the administration about the curriculum, we talked about the

2:38:24 learning gap and how that

2:38:26 would be handled. One of them mentioned this great, at that

2:38:32 point, I thought, current program,

2:38:35 which was Thrive by Five. I thought, “Wow, this is really great.”

2:38:42 I went home and I got

2:38:44 on the website and researched it, and I thought, “Oh, there’s a

2:38:48 lot lacking.” So thank you,

2:38:51 Dr. Mullins, for tonight, clearing up that it’s really going to

2:38:58 start Monday. So hopefully,

2:39:00 on the website, there will be somebody we can contact in case I

2:39:05 and some of my friends

2:39:07 who are very interested in it can find ways that we can

2:39:12 volunteer or help with it. So

2:39:15 that kind of took a lot of my griping tonight away. So I’m going

2:39:20 to add another little gripe.

2:39:23 I know that you’re trying to get out of here at a decent time,

2:39:27 and I know I’ve walked out

2:39:29 on some board meetings at 1130 at night to a dark parking lot

2:39:35 that’s scary, but to cut

2:39:37 down the time below three minutes is really very hard for many

2:39:45 of us who have several

2:39:48 things to speak on. So we would like at least three minutes to

2:39:54 say our piece because it’s

2:39:57 important to us what goes on in education. I worked for a while

2:40:03 at then Brevard Community

2:40:05 College teaching everything from precalculus down to remedial

2:40:10 math. And when you see 18

2:40:13 and 20-year-olds that can barely add and subtract, it makes you

2:40:18 well aware that something needs

2:40:21 to be done with early intervention all the way up. And we’d all

2:40:27 like to get that done.

2:40:29 Thank you.

2:40:30 Thank you, Judy. Joanne. And as Joanne’s approaching, our next

2:40:35 three speakers are going to be Sarah

2:40:38 Murski, Michelle Beavers, and Jabari Hosie.

2:40:42 Hello. Congratulations. The numbers are down. The math worked.

2:40:52 Thank you.

2:40:54 Audience members, I’m not going to say it again.

2:40:59 Thank you to the three courageous board members who at great

2:41:03 personal sacrifice and in some

2:41:06 cases great personal risk took the step of voting in a

2:41:10 controversial way because they

2:41:13 have one priority. That priority is to keep children safe, to

2:41:19 keep staff safe, and to

2:41:21 do what they can to mitigate disease spread in our community.

2:41:26 You did that. Congratulations.

2:41:28 Thank you. It worked. Now let’s keep it up. Normally I don’t

2:41:33 come to these meetings. I’ve

2:41:35 been outside to show support for the people that are in favor of

2:41:41 masks. I don’t feel terribly

2:41:44 comfortable being indoors with all these people without masks,

2:41:50 but I got tired of watching

2:41:52 it on TV or on my computer and seeing so many people speak

2:41:57 against masks when that’s really

2:42:00 not the majority. Most normal people are home watching what

2:42:06 happens the next day on TV or

2:42:08 in their newspaper. They don’t have time or they don’t have the

2:42:15 interest to come be here

2:42:17 in person, but most people are like me. They want the community

2:42:22 to be safe. This little

2:42:23 piece of fabric is not a big deal. It’s something that we’re

2:42:29 doing during a pandemic to keep

2:42:31 people alive. It’s a little piece of fabric. It’s not your civil

2:42:38 liberties. I guarantee

2:42:40 you. Regarding Sophia, I saw the picture. It’s an adorable

2:42:50 little girl with a mask,

2:42:53 and you can see that somebody took a shoelace and made a bow

2:42:59 above her ponytail so that

2:43:01 her little ears would be comfortable. And people grabbed on this

2:43:07 as if audience members

2:43:08 could please stop interrupting. People glommed on this. Ma’am,

2:43:16 pause for just a moment. Okay,

2:43:19 sir, make your way out, please. Out, please. Great. Have a good

2:43:36 night. I apologize, Joanne.

2:43:39 If you’d like to go ahead and finish. Thank you. So I mean, you

2:43:43 could see the little bow.

2:43:45 Everybody was just keeping a little girl under their care

2:43:49 comfortable. They were not trying

2:43:51 to imprison her or any such thing. It’s so much political

2:43:57 bastardization of what really

2:43:59 happened. To wrap it up, thank you again to the board members

2:44:06 and to the staff whose number

2:44:08 one priority is not politics. Thank you, ma’am. We appreciate

2:44:12 you joining us this evening.

2:44:14 Your time is up. I stopped the timer when he walked out. Yeah.

2:44:25 So thank you. Sarah.

2:44:29 Good evening, Madam Chair and board. Hope everyone has been able

2:44:37 to enjoy the beautiful

2:44:39 weather we’re having and make memories with your families. And I

2:44:43 just wanted to share

2:44:44 because it wasn’t explained that these ribbons that we’re

2:44:47 wearing are in honor of Down syndrome

2:44:49 Awareness Month in honor of Sophia. I’m Sarah taxpayer,

2:44:52 registered voter, student wife and

2:44:54 mother of two children in BPS. And I live in district two for

2:44:58 school board. And I’m

2:44:59 heartbroken and disgusted over all the events surrounding our BPS

2:45:03 community over the past

2:45:04 couple of weeks. Madam Chair, you’re willing to defend your

2:45:08 stance on the illegal mask

2:45:09 policy that you were the swing vote on that you say it’s now up

2:45:14 to the courts to decide

2:45:16 with that it is grossly unfair to 50% of your constituents who

2:45:20 are now on the hook for paying

2:45:22 your for your legal fees. That is not in the best interest of

2:45:26 your stakeholders and our

2:45:27 children and that is not serving every student with excellence

2:45:31 as the standard. That’s because

2:45:33 something is denied from the dais does not mean it’s true. Today

2:45:36 it was reported in your

2:45:37 workshop that BPS has about 10,000 less students than last year.

2:45:42 Whereas in a recent meeting,

2:45:43 the board stated that enrollment numbers were not down. The

2:45:47 damages our children have suffered

2:45:49 that many of us have brought to your attention before about your

2:45:53 illegal mask mandate now

2:45:55 have come out in very public ways and will continue to do so,

2:45:59 including but not limited

2:46:01 to lawsuits and investigations. There’s a reason why I voted

2:46:04 with my feet and moved

2:46:05 from Chicago to Florida. Don’t Chicago my Brevard. You could

2:46:10 have simply allowed a parental

2:46:11 opt out since since your illegal mask policy was first enacted

2:46:15 and avoided all the downfall

2:46:17 since three board members are so concerned about politics and

2:46:21 defending an illegal mask

2:46:22 mandate agenda. I do not think that a school board seat is the

2:46:26 right place for you. We

2:46:28 need people to serve on the board who are interested in being in

2:46:30 compliance with the

2:46:31 Oe the law and in making the best policies for our district for

2:46:35 everyone and focusing

2:46:36 on education, not using their board seat for their own personal

2:46:41 political agendas. We need

2:46:43 school board members who actually listen and engage and welcome

2:46:46 parents, including parents

2:46:47 who have a different point of view, who actually take their oath

2:46:51 of office seriously, as well

2:46:53 as the laws and directives they are governed by. I joined sack

2:46:57 at my child’s student school

2:46:59 to help support our school staff and bridge the learning gap.

2:47:02 The biggest need for our

2:47:04 Children is more mental health help. The mental health

2:47:07 professionals are not able to actually

2:47:09 provide the mental health services that the Children need. We

2:47:12 need to take that ester

2:47:13 money and employ more mental health professionals for our

2:47:16 Children who are going through trauma

2:47:18 and actually get them the help they need. Please do not vote to

2:47:21 extend the illegal mask

2:47:22 mandate or or allow students, teachers and staff to opt out. Let’s

2:47:27 get the focus back

2:47:28 to teaching. Thank you, Sarah. Michelle. Hello, board. First, I

2:47:38 wanted to address Dr Melons

2:47:41 just for a moment. He reached out to me last time we had a

2:47:44 meeting, and he corrected some

2:47:45 numbers that we had gotten wrong. Eso I thought it was 18. I’m

2:47:51 sorry, 1891 students that had

2:47:54 left the district in that 30 40 days. It was actually 1275 on

2:48:00 that number. But that still

2:48:03 means that you’re missing $7,999,550 in revenue. And if you take

2:48:10 away the expense of educating

2:48:12 those Children, which is eight, I’m sorry, 8,788 per per child,

2:48:18 you’ll have a difference

2:48:20 of about $1500 of students. You’re still missing 1188,850

2:48:26 dollars, and you just lost another

2:48:28 20,000 that just walked out the door. Um, so I think if you

2:48:33 limit the the ability for

2:48:35 us to be seen on television on recorded, then what you’re doing

2:48:40 is hiding us. And I think

2:48:42 everyone knows that. I don’t think you want to hide what’s going

2:48:45 on. I think you want

2:48:46 to be open with us and honest with us. Um, the other thing I

2:48:51 wanted to address is in

2:48:53 the beginning of this pandemic, it was never to stop the spread

2:48:57 of this disease. It was

2:48:58 too slow. The spread of this disease flow it because the experts

2:49:02 at the time said everyone’s

2:49:03 going to eventually can’t handshake this disease. It’s just like

2:49:07 the flu. Eventually, you’re

2:49:08 gonna get it. It’s just the way it is, because even if you have

2:49:12 the vaccine, you’re still

2:49:13 going to get it. And the bottom line is, is these Children in

2:49:16 these schools aren’t going

2:49:18 to die from this. This is not happening. It’s 0.008 I believe it

2:49:22 was last time I checked

2:49:24 of kids that are dying from this. So all you’re doing is

2:49:27 starving their brains. There’s neurosurgeon

2:49:30 and I did not put her name up here. I had it on my phone who

2:49:33 came out and said, Look,

2:49:34 you know, there’s kids that were complaining of headaches at the

2:49:36 beginning of the pandemic

2:49:37 because they had these masks on all day. Mom said, Oh, they’re

2:49:40 coming home slow. They’re

2:49:41 coming home lethargic to have headaches. They’re not having him

2:49:43 now. They’re not having him

2:49:45 now because eventually the body says, Oh, well, it’s not working,

2:49:48 so we’ll just ignore

2:49:49 the headaches down. Go on. But the damage is still being done to

2:49:52 their brains, which

2:49:53 left me very little time to talk about books, which I was really

2:49:56 here for today. I tiptoed

2:49:57 toward the door appearing through the window at the boy’s pants

2:50:00 around his ankle, squeezed

2:50:01 between April straddle legs. As you lay on the teacher’s desk, I

2:50:03 swung that are open,

2:50:04 letting the soft light from the hallway shine a spotlight on

2:50:06 them. Shit, Keith muttered,

2:50:08 pulling the man I need for you to keep your language clean. Okay.

2:50:10 Oh, well, this was on.

2:50:11 This was our school books. Yeah, I understand. But at this

2:50:14 meeting, you get my point, right?

2:50:17 You get my point. These books are in our school. You’re gonna

2:50:20 keep me committed. I’d like my

2:50:22 time back that you made me for them. These books are in our

2:50:25 school. That is my point.

2:50:26 That is just one of them. I have another one here. It says see Dixie

2:50:29 Jane here. Baby Sally

2:50:30 Cry. See Jane put the knife in baby Sally’s neck. Baby Sally is

2:50:34 quiet now. That’s just

2:50:36 part of it. That also talks about going to other people’s houses

2:50:38 where your parents aren’t

2:50:39 gonna know what you’re doing. Encourage kids to play games,

2:50:42 calling strangers that says,

2:50:44 Can you come to my party? Mommy and Daddy left me alone and

2:50:46 forgot it was my birthday.

2:50:47 Will you come play with my party? This is what this was for a

2:50:52 second grade child. A

2:50:53 second grader. Can you imagine someone’s second grader coming

2:50:57 home with a book that says to

2:50:59 kill a baby? And it also talks about about about taking a fake

2:51:05 baby and drowning it.

2:51:07 Thank you, ma’am.

2:51:12 As Jabari is approaching, our next three speakers are going to

2:51:15 be Kim Huff, Sarah Conkling and

2:51:17 Danielle McDonough.

2:51:18 Hi, I’m Jabari Hosey, president of Families for Safe Schools.

2:51:26 And we all know masks do

2:51:27 work. Vaccines do work. Thought that everyone catching a virus

2:51:33 that has so many unknowns

2:51:34 is our solution is absurd. At the last school board meeting, a

2:51:41 resolution was discussed

2:51:42 to discourage attacks on board members after six plus months of

2:51:45 this happening to a board

2:51:46 member up there today, while many on the board remain silent.

2:51:52 This board has spoke on discouraging

2:51:54 this behavior in this room outside of this building. Yet one

2:51:58 group and their associates

2:52:00 and or affiliates have been the only ones guilty of this

2:52:03 countless times they have been

2:52:04 told to quiet down or follow the rules. Arrests were made

2:52:08 outside of this building. Remarks

2:52:10 have been disrespectful, untruthful and obligatory hand gestures

2:52:14 outside. The list goes on. Yet

2:52:17 two of you who sit on this board, who harp about following rules,

2:52:22 laws and respect, seem

2:52:24 to not have a problem attending private speaking engagements

2:52:26 with this group. Mr Hosey, keep

2:52:28 it directed at me, please, sir. This sounds like hypocrisy, but

2:52:33 maybe I can’t hear. The

2:52:35 same group regurgitates posts and comments via Facebook made by

2:52:40 a state representative

2:52:42 who is no more than an Internet troll who has made threats

2:52:46 against the very same person

2:52:48 you expressed in the resolution to protect. I would advise this

2:52:52 board to focus on what

2:52:54 is best for the majority of their students here in Brevard and

2:52:57 again, not pander to these

2:52:59 small pockets of hate and the groups that do not bring us

2:53:03 together, but create a further

2:53:05 separation and wedge in the community and within our schools.

2:53:11 Thank you. Thanks, Mr.

2:53:12 Hosey. Kim Hough. Kim Hough. No, Kim Hough. Sarah Conkling. Good

2:53:27 evening. I’d just like

2:53:29 to thank all of you for your service to our community. I don’t

2:53:32 think we thank our administrators

2:53:33 enough and our school board members, so let’s say that I’m here

2:53:37 tonight in support of Jennifer

2:53:39 Jenkins, school board member who isn’t even from my district.

2:53:42 But I just want to say we

2:53:43 love you. We appreciate you. We appreciate you standing tall and

2:53:46 in the face of threats

2:53:48 and intimidation and threats of violence. And that’s the number

2:53:51 one thing I want to

2:53:52 say tonight. And I want to also speak out in opposition to the

2:53:55 resolution that was passed

2:53:57 at the last school board meeting, which was in response to a

2:54:00 letter calling for federal

2:54:01 law enforcement intervention in the harassment of our school

2:54:04 board members. I want to start

2:54:06 by quoting Elie Wiesel. We must take sides. Neutrality helps the

2:54:10 oppressor and never the

2:54:11 victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.

2:54:16 Sometimes we must interfere.

2:54:19 When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in

2:54:22 jeopardy, sensitivities become

2:54:24 irrelevant. Whenever men and women are persecuted because of

2:54:28 their race, religion or political

2:54:30 views, that place must at that moment become the center of the

2:54:34 universe. The language of

2:54:36 our local board resolution adopted at the last meeting regarding

2:54:39 board member safety

2:54:40 has not been and is not strong enough to discourage the acts of

2:54:44 intimidation and threats of violence

2:54:46 against our school board member, Miss Jenkins. Contrary to the

2:54:49 suggestion of that resolution,

2:54:51 the fact that the acts of intimidation and threats of violence

2:54:54 have been going on for

2:54:55 six long months says that our local law enforcement, for

2:54:58 whatever reason, has been ineffective

2:55:01 in preventing the torment of Miss Jenkins. This is the exact

2:55:05 circumstance in which bigger

2:55:06 and hopefully better federal law enforcement resources should be

2:55:10 employed. When faced with

2:55:11 serious, protracted, unending, violent threats of one of your

2:55:15 members, you should not be

2:55:17 continuing to suggest that local law enforcement is enough. It

2:55:21 is not enough. It has not been

2:55:22 enough. It has not succeeded in protecting Miss Jenkins. All of

2:55:26 you should be asking

2:55:27 for all available law enforcement resources to end the torment

2:55:31 of one of your members.

2:55:33 And lest anyone else on the board think that they might be

2:55:35 immune to what Miss Jenkins

2:55:36 has suffered, I would like to say I hope you’re immune.

2:55:40 Specifically, as a lifelong Democrat

2:55:42 committed to nonviolence, I hope there are no Democrats in our

2:55:46 county who would perpetrate

2:55:48 acts of intimidation or threats of violence, just as I hope that

2:55:51 they would never do it

2:55:53 anywhere else. Nonetheless, the issue of domestic terror should

2:55:57 transcend political affiliation.

2:56:00 As humanity, we must all stand together against inhumanity. I

2:56:05 therefore, acknowledge every

2:56:07 one of you to strongly condemn in specific terms the acts of

2:56:09 intimidation and threats

2:56:11 of violence suffered by Miss Jenkins to emphatically and adamantly

2:56:15 disavow the perpetrators and

2:56:16 to bring every available law enforcement resource, both local

2:56:20 and federal, to bear on the personal

2:56:22 torment of one of your members. Your failure to do this is

2:56:28 encouraging the tormentors.

2:56:30 Thank you, ma’am. We appreciate you joining us. Your time is

2:56:33 unfortunately up. Danielle

2:56:38 after Danielle, our next three speakers will be Gordon Sumner,

2:56:44 Ashley Hall, and then Sarah

2:56:47 Brightman. Danielle, whenever you’re ready. Good evening, board.

2:56:51 I want to thank you for

2:56:53 doing what we needed to be done to mitigate the pandemic. The

2:56:57 evidence is overwhelming

2:56:59 when you just look at the dashboard. I think we were at 15 cases

2:57:04 on the most recent dashboard.

2:57:06 The spread of COVID is going to be reflected in the schools and

2:57:11 school spread of COVID

2:57:12 is going to be reflected in the our community, and we need to do

2:57:16 everything we can to mitigate

2:57:18 that. I do hope you extend the mask mandate. We are still

2:57:23 waiting for a vaccine for the

2:57:24 children under 12 years old, so we still have nothing to protect

2:57:28 them. It takes two weeks

2:57:30 after their second dose. We’re probably a minimum of two weeks

2:57:34 away from the them being

2:57:36 eligible for the first dose, so you need to continue to make an

2:57:41 effort to mitigate the

2:57:42 pandemic. We’re going towards the holidays. People are going to

2:57:46 travel. There’s going

2:57:47 to be get togethers. We’re going, you know, we’re at risk of

2:57:51 another search, so I want

2:57:53 to thank you for everything you’ve done so far. I don’t think

2:57:56 there’s enough positivity

2:57:57 in this room. I’m actually really disappointed by our community.

2:58:01 I’m disappointed by the

2:58:02 hatred that we hear every day. I’ve been a parent of BPS

2:58:08 students for 13 years. I’ve

2:58:11 been an active member of our school system. I’ve volunteered at

2:58:15 four different schools.

2:58:16 I continue to volunteer. The gentleman that said we can’t

2:58:20 volunteer, Mrs. Campbell and

2:58:22 I are at Mel High on a regular basis volunteering, so I’m not

2:58:25 sure what that’s about. I also

2:58:28 volunteer at at metal Lane and I volunteered at Central. I’ve

2:58:32 served on that committees

2:58:34 and PTO’s and parent leaderships under our previous

2:58:37 Superintendent. So there’s lots of

2:58:40 ways to be involved, and I think that people sit in this room

2:58:43 and they say we don’t have

2:58:45 this and we don’t have that. They’re just not participating. So

2:58:50 I want to thank you

2:58:52 for all that you do. I want to thank our teachers and I really

2:58:55 hope that you listen to the Union

2:58:57 President today because we are losing teachers were losing him

2:59:01 to counties that pay more

2:59:03 money. We’re losing them because they don’t want to come here to

2:59:06 work because there’s

2:59:07 not pay. We’re losing them because they’re not supported. We don’t

2:59:13 have substitute teachers.

2:59:15 We can’t get them for the same reasons because there’s not

2:59:18 enough pay and because there’s

2:59:20 so much hatred and attacks on our education system. I believe in

2:59:26 public education. I cannot

2:59:29 say enough how proud I am of the teachers and administrators at

2:59:34 all of the schools my

2:59:35 kids have been affiliated with. I am so proud to be a parent at

2:59:39 metal Lane primary metal

2:59:41 Lane intermediate central middle and Mel High. They have

2:59:46 outstanding teachers and they’ve

2:59:49 done amazing jobs. We have a great public education. Thank you

2:59:53 ma’am. Thank you. Gordon

2:59:56 Sumner Ashley Hall. Hello members of the board. My name is

3:00:09 Ashley Hall. I’m in the Brevard

3:00:12 chair for Moms for Liberty. I’m here to address agenda item G 32

3:00:17 the proposed parent suppression

3:00:18 policy is what I’m calling it. I have watched for over a year

3:00:22 now board meetings how they

3:00:24 have become more and more contentious. Do you remember the May

3:00:31 25th meeting? That was

3:00:34 the meeting right after the special meeting ending the mandate.

3:00:38 Were meetings during the

3:00:40 summer contentious? No. Why do you think that was? I can tell

3:00:46 you definitively that it was

3:00:48 because parents regained their control over health care

3:00:51 decisions for their children.

3:00:53 The balance was restored. It wasn’t until the July 29th meeting

3:00:57 where one particular

3:00:58 board member brought back the discussion on mask mandates and

3:01:01 just like that tensions

3:01:03 flared because parental rights were once again in jeopardy. The

3:01:06 only difference at this time

3:01:08 was that rules were established directing school boards that

3:01:10 mask mandates were not

3:01:12 to be instated during the school year. Don’t get me wrong. I am

3:01:16 not I’m not 100% against

3:01:18 this policy change. I actually agree with the proposed time

3:01:21 reduction based on the number

3:01:22 of speakers. It actually makes sense to do this and forces

3:01:25 speakers to get to their point.

3:01:27 My real issue is with the policy changes that reduce the

3:01:31 comments to one minute regardless

3:01:33 of the number of speakers simply because someone is not speaking

3:01:36 to the agenda. Under the new

3:01:37 policy that speaker would be moved to the end of the meeting and

3:01:40 most egregiously would

3:01:41 not be broadcast on the live feed. Didn’t this board just pass a

3:01:45 resolution denouncing

3:01:47 the statements of the National School Board Association about

3:01:50 parents? Was that all for

3:01:51 show? Because the message this policy sends right now is we don’t

3:01:55 want you here. Your

3:01:56 voice doesn’t matter and just to make sure you know just how

3:01:59 much we don’t care about

3:02:00 what you have to say, we will turn the cameras off and not allow

3:02:03 the public to listen. I

3:02:05 would ask that you remove these parts of the policy as well as

3:02:08 amend your broad statement

3:02:10 of no signs with obscene messages to have a short list of things

3:02:14 that are not allowed

3:02:15 such as curse words, threats of violence, etc. Anything else is

3:02:19 suppression of speech

3:02:20 and further divides the community. If BPS and this board really

3:02:24 wanted to restore harmony

3:02:25 with parents and quell the tensions in the boardroom, I would

3:02:28 like to suggest a public

3:02:29 denunciation of the dangerous and slanderous accusations made

3:02:33 against hardworking concerned

3:02:34 parents in our organization by one particular board member. All

3:02:39 we want is to protect our

3:02:41 children but what we are met with is false malicious and

3:02:43 baseless claims that these parents

3:02:45 are likened with domestic terrorists and should be under federal

3:02:49 investigation. These attacks

3:02:51 need to stop. There’s absolutely no evidence that Moms for

3:02:54 Liberty members have done any

3:02:56 of these things to this member. No police reports, no pictures,

3:03:00 no videos, no arrests.

3:03:02 If there were evidence, we would not condone it and we have said

3:03:06 as much multiple times.

3:03:08 The district’s silence on this matter is unacceptable and

3:03:10 implies their complicitness. Thanks,

3:03:12 Ashley. Sarah. Sarah is approaching. Our last two speakers will

3:03:19 be Sandra Sullivan and Michelle

3:03:20 Bernal. Good evening board. I’d like to second everything that

3:03:31 Ashley Hall just said. I am

3:03:35 also a Moms for Liberty member, a very nonviolent Moms for

3:03:41 Liberty member and I’m speaking tonight

3:03:45 on critical race theory and the American Rescue Plan. Number six

3:03:50 on the agenda, addressing

3:03:52 the needs of children from low income families, English learners,

3:03:57 racial and ethnic minorities,

3:03:59 students experiencing homelessness and foster care youth. My

3:04:03 concern is in the words racial

3:04:04 and ethnic minorities. Recently, the newly appointed director of

3:04:08 equity and diversity

3:04:09 for BPS, Dr. Danielle McKinnon presented a slide show with three

3:04:14 ethnicities, white,

3:04:16 black and Hispanic. There was no mention of other ethnicities,

3:04:20 no Native American, no

3:04:22 Asian. So why would BPS select certain minorities to focus on

3:04:26 instead of all students? Is money

3:04:28 being allocated from ARP for just certain races? Dr. McKinnon

3:04:34 stated that she is merely

3:04:35 reviewing documents since October 2020 that she’s not

3:04:38 implementing policy. She also stated

3:04:40 that CRT is not being taught in BPS schools. Even when given

3:04:45 examples of CRT in BPS curriculum,

3:04:48 she would not admit it. Here’s an example of CRT in BPS schools.

3:04:52 The US Constitution

3:04:54 then and now by Benchmark Education. Benchmark received grants

3:05:00 from Bill and Melinda Gates

3:05:02 Foundation. Follow the money. Excuse me. Your BPS teachers don’t

3:05:09 like CRT? Here’s a suggestion

3:05:11 to Anthony Colucci. Tell your union that CRT must be banned in

3:05:16 every form of BPS schools.

3:05:18 Parents and teachers recognize that CRT indoctrination is

3:05:22 harmful to all citizens. Oppressors and

3:05:25 oppressed, diversity, equity and inclusion training, racial

3:05:30 sensitivity training, racial

3:05:33 healing, social, emotional learning, anti-bias training,

3:05:36 critical ethics studies are all

3:05:38 synonymous with CRT. We’d like to say stop the bleed just like

3:05:43 Anthony Colucci said tonight.

3:05:45 Stop the bleed of losing teachers and students. Get rid of

3:05:50 critical race theory in BPS schools.

3:05:53 Thank you. Thank you. Sandra Sullivan. Sandra Sullivan, I have

3:06:04 three children in BPS. I

3:06:08 have special education kids, both gifted and ESC. And I’ll say I

3:06:14 was extremely disappointed

3:06:17 when you reduce the time of non-agenda items when parents come

3:06:20 in, especially parents of

3:06:22 special needs kids come in or any other issue. And we come in

3:06:26 here and to have one minute

3:06:28 only, that’s unacceptable. You need to hear from your parents. I

3:06:34 used to come to these

3:06:35 meetings regularly and speak about ESC and gifted needs. I gave

3:06:41 up, took my kids out

3:06:43 to homeschool for some years, but we’re back into BPS right now.

3:06:48 Anyway, I would like to

3:06:50 talk about the hypocrisy that is going on. You guys, a certain

3:06:56 school board member anyway

3:06:57 is talking about how much she, she cares. Well, she cares so

3:07:03 much or the school board

3:07:05 cares so much for our children. Sure with actions because

3:07:11 childhood cancer is an issue.

3:07:15 We in, in satellite beach where I live, we became a childhood

3:07:20 cancer cluster for 2000

3:07:22 and 2010. Now I came in here and I talked about how schools that

3:07:27 are 50 years old, back

3:07:28 in the day, you guys use Chloridine and Hapaclor to treat for

3:07:32 termites and other insects. And

3:07:34 I requested that you like other districts, you test the school’s

3:07:40 the indoor quality because

3:07:41 this is a very cancer causing issue. I also came here and spoke

3:07:47 one day and sent emails

3:07:49 requesting you approve the Corps of Engineers right of entry

3:07:54 form for Seapark Elementary

3:07:56 as soon as possible. They’re starting the testing soon. The area

3:08:01 to give the Corps of

3:08:03 Engineers access is to the far left field, which is fenced and

3:08:08 separate from the school

3:08:10 regarding the formerly used defense site, the military dump that

3:08:15 is under our homes

3:08:16 in that area and extends out to the school. Why haven’t you

3:08:19 taken action on this in a

3:08:21 few months? You care about kids, you care about them dying, but

3:08:24 you don’t care about

3:08:26 things that can cause cancer. Or did you see the full page, the

3:08:30 front page article of Florida

3:08:32 today with the vapor intrusion concerns? And thirdly, test all

3:08:39 the beach side schools for

3:08:42 PFAS. I sit on the Patrick Space Force base rad board meeting

3:08:49 and this last meeting this

3:08:50 month discussed the PFAS levels, which adjacent to Saleh High

3:08:54 School are 400 parts per trillion.

3:08:58 This chemical now has, has been determined via research to have

3:09:02 far more vapor intrusion

3:09:04 potential than they previously thought. Thank you, ma’am. We

3:09:06 appreciate you joining us this

3:09:07 evening. Have a great night. Michelle. This is our last one.

3:09:15 Michelle Barano. Hello. Hi,

3:09:19 my name’s Michelle Barano. I’m a vice president for Families for

3:09:22 Safe Schools. I would like

3:09:23 to thank all of you for your service. And this is truly a thankless

3:09:28 job. I, no matter

3:09:30 how many people like me come up and say thank you, what you have

3:09:33 to deal with on a daily

3:09:34 basis is immense. And whether I agree with everything you do or

3:09:37 not, thank you for doing

3:09:38 it. But I would also like to specifically call out and thank the

3:09:42 three board members

3:09:43 who went up against ridiculous amount of political pressure. I

3:09:46 find it ironic that people are

3:09:48 saying that you did it for political reasons when in fact the

3:09:51 politics were aimed at your

3:09:53 head. And that was not, clearly not your motivation for doing it.

3:09:59 It was clearly concerned about

3:10:01 where we were headed. It’s real easy to sit here now and think

3:10:04 that we’re all great. Schools

3:10:06 were closing. There was staff missing in all the buildings. How

3:10:09 many people were in the

3:10:11 ER with ventilation tubes down their throats? Let’s not forget

3:10:14 that. That’s why you voted

3:10:16 for the mass. And we appreciate that. Thank you. And for that

3:10:21 reason, I would like to

3:10:23 ask you to continue with mass for under 12 until the vaccine is

3:10:27 available, until they

3:10:29 have some protection that they can, their parents can provide

3:10:33 for them. I ask that you

3:10:35 maintain that. I think that is a reasonable thing to do. And it

3:10:37 looks like we’re talking

3:10:38 about a matter of weeks here. Third, I would like to address the

3:10:46 unfortunate situation

3:10:48 with Sophia. My daughter goes to Ocean Breeze Elementary School.

3:10:54 If what is being alleged

3:10:56 happened, happened, then that is an atrocity. Okay. This board

3:11:00 voted for mass to protect

3:11:02 kids and they specifically allowed a medical opt out. If Sophia

3:11:06 needed a medical opt out,

3:11:08 it should have been available to her. I don’t know all the facts

3:11:11 in this case. I’ve heard

3:11:12 one side from someone with a very clear political agenda who has

3:11:16 successfully and rightfully

3:11:18 gotten people upset because we should care about children,

3:11:21 especially those of us who

3:11:22 can’t speak for themselves. I don’t hear anyone talking about

3:11:26 how perhaps the fact that Sophia

3:11:28 was able to wear a mask because again, I don’t know what

3:11:31 happened. I asked the principal.

3:11:33 She said there’s an ongoing investigation. She couldn’t share

3:11:36 any facts with me. We don’t

3:11:38 know the other side. Okay. And the autistic down syndrome

3:11:47 resource foundation has posted

3:11:50 ways to help keep masks on children to protect them from getting

3:11:54 COVID. Imagine if you have

3:11:55 down syndrome and an enlarged tongue, how devastating would it

3:11:59 be to catch COVID in

3:12:00 your class? So I don’t know the facts. I’m withholding judgment

3:12:04 until I hear what happened.

3:12:06 Thank you. I also want to point out the irony of people up here

3:12:09 speaking on public talking

3:12:10 about how their voices are being silenced. I think a minute is

3:12:13 sufficient. If you want

3:12:14 to be on TV, get a blog, go, go on TV, get on Facebook. Thank

3:12:20 you very much. All right.

3:12:24 Word members that concludes our public comment for this evening.

3:12:26 Are you all good to move

3:12:27 into the consent agenda? Does anyone need a break? I’m good.

3:12:31 Okay. Super. All right.

3:12:34 That’s going to move us then into the consent agenda. Dr. Mullins.

3:12:38 There are 20 items, 20

3:12:39 agenda items under this category. Does any board member wish to

3:12:42 pull any item from the

3:12:43 consent agenda? Okay. None. I’ll entertain a motion to accept

3:12:46 the consent agenda as presented

3:12:48 to approve by Mr. Susan. Second by Ms. McDougall. Is there any

3:12:52 discussion? Hearing none. Please

3:13:02 take your time. I’m going to close the last. Hang on a second.

3:13:20 Oh, I did it again. It’s

3:13:27 me. Got it right now. It’s me. Hang on. There you go. No, I got

3:13:40 it. Yes. The motion passes

3:13:42 five zero. All right. Dr. Mullins, will you please let us know

3:13:49 about the items under action?

3:13:51 There are 12 items under this category. The first one is G 32 on

3:13:54 board policy zero one

3:13:56 six nine dot one public participation at board meetings. The

3:13:59 public the board will hear public

3:14:02 comments regarding this policy and then be asked for a vote. Is

3:14:05 there anyone present

3:14:06 this evening who wishes to address the revisions to board policy

3:14:09 zero one six nine point one

3:14:10 public petition participation at board meeting? I’m I’m hopeful

3:14:32 that you guys hear us. We

3:14:33 hold on one second. Your mic was not on. And if you could please

3:14:39 state your name since

3:14:41 you’re not signed up to speak so they can get record for the

3:14:43 minutes. Okay, go ahead.

3:14:45 My name is Katie. And I’m here to talk about public comment. I

3:14:51 hope that you guys hear

3:14:53 all of us when we speak. I’m not speaking for just me. I’m

3:14:56 speaking for everybody in

3:14:57 this room. I had an incident years ago when my daughter was in a

3:15:04 school in town. And it

3:15:06 wasn’t an agenda item. She got abused at school. The admin

3:15:11 brushed on the under the rug said

3:15:14 kids will be kids boys will be boys that shouldn’t be a big deal.

3:15:19 They’re just in third grade.

3:15:22 At that time, if I only had one minute to speak on this, it

3:15:28 wouldn’t be enough. When

3:15:31 parents come here, we’re coming pleading because you are our

3:15:35 last hope. Because we’ve gone

3:15:37 to the teacher, we’ve gone to the admin, we’ve gone to the, you

3:15:41 know, assistant superintendent,

3:15:43 I went to Stephanie Archer, there was a major who literally said

3:15:48 to me that somebody touching

3:15:50 my daughter’s private parts is not that’s not abuse. And I said

3:15:56 to him, so if I touched

3:15:58 you right now, that wouldn’t be abuse. I wouldn’t be arrested. I

3:16:04 came here to you guys for my

3:16:07 measly three minutes to talk about my daughter’s abuse, to plead

3:16:13 for help. And I’m here today,

3:16:17 asking for that same respect for the entire community. I don’t

3:16:21 care if they want 15 masks.

3:16:23 I don’t care if they want vaccines. I don’t care if they want

3:16:26 everyone painted purple.

3:16:28 I don’t care. We deserve our time to speak with you guys. We

3:16:36 really do want to work with

3:16:38 you all. But cutting our time is just going to tell parents that

3:16:45 you guys don’t want to

3:16:47 hear us. So I really hope that I really hope that you guys take

3:16:53 that into account with

3:16:54 this. Thank you. Thanks, Katie.

3:17:00 » Is there anyone present who wishes to address the revisions

3:17:06 to board policy 0169.1, public

3:17:10 participation at board meetings?

3:17:13 » Hello, my name is Michelle Baranow. I’m horrified to hear

3:17:18 that woman’s story with

3:17:20 her daughter and I hope that situation got resolved. I also hope

3:17:24 that three minutes in

3:17:25 front of the board was not her only avenue for resolving that. I

3:17:31 feel that a minute is

3:17:32 sufficient. I have emailed each and every one of you repeatedly.

3:17:37 There’s a phone number

3:17:38 to this building. There’s Facebook. There’s Twitter. I do not

3:17:43 feel that I have any inability

3:17:45 to reach you. I also feel that any issues I have that I want to

3:17:49 address with you don’t

3:17:50 have to be televised. If I want to speak to the public, I will

3:17:54 address the public. A variety

3:17:56 of social media sites, newspaper editorials. There has never

3:18:00 been, I can write you a letter,

3:18:03 there has never been more options for communicating with people

3:18:06 than there are today. I think

3:18:07 a minute allows people to get their point across, allows them to

3:18:10 be heard. If it needs

3:18:11 to be followed up on, as obviously this woman’s case does, then

3:18:16 there needs to be ways of

3:18:17 that occurring and I think those exist. So, I think a minute is

3:18:21 fine. Thank you very much.

3:18:26 Hi, I’m Julie Bywater. This thing about the public comment, when

3:18:43 you have the three minutes

3:18:48 and it’s not a non-agenda item, I mean, I spent three minutes

3:18:51 talking to you about homecoming

3:18:52 dances and offering you three minutes full of options, of which

3:18:56 you never once reached

3:18:58 out to me about. I mean, I stood up here for three minutes. Why

3:19:05 is this such a hard thing

3:19:06 for you guys to sit up there and listen to us talk to you about

3:19:09 things that aren’t on

3:19:10 the agenda? We don’t get to pick the agenda. You’re picking the

3:19:13 agenda. Sometimes we are

3:19:15 going to come to you with things that are going on in the

3:19:18 schools, positive things.

3:19:20 And we want to talk to you about it. It might take longer than a

3:19:23 minute. And yeah, we do

3:19:24 deserve to be on video, not because we’re looking for attention,

3:19:28 but because it’s public

3:19:29 record. Sometimes you don’t check your email. Sometimes you’re

3:19:34 looking at other things while

3:19:35 we’re talking and this is our chance for us to address you. Yes?

3:19:44 This is our chance to

3:19:45 address you. We want to be heard. You don’t return our email.

3:19:50 You kind of blow us off.

3:19:53 It hurts the kids. It hurts the issues. This is often our last

3:20:00 resort, not our first one.

3:20:04 It doesn’t hurt you to listen to us. And we’re trying. Just like

3:20:09 when I gave all those suggestions.

3:20:12 I wasn’t up here to complain. I was up here to offer solutions.

3:20:17 It’s really sad that you

3:20:19 want to limit that ability. You want to shove us to the end of

3:20:22 the meeting. You want to

3:20:24 turn the video off and you want to act like it doesn’t exist.

3:20:27 And that’s a shame. Because

3:20:30 you have a room full of people just dying to be invested and

3:20:35 involved. And when we stand

3:20:37 up here and we’re speaking and you refuse to look at us, it’s

3:20:43 hard. It’s frustrating.

3:20:46 And it’s disrespectful. » Good evening, again. I’m still Sarah

3:20:57 Mirsky.

3:20:57 I still live in Brevard County and I still have kids in the

3:21:01 school system. I left a couple

3:21:03 of you voicemails today about this issue and I appreciate the

3:21:05 chance to actually address

3:21:07 the board tonight on the issue on public speaking, public input.

3:21:13 So what I talked about was how

3:21:18 I feel every parent who takes the time to have their voices

3:21:22 heard at school board meetings,

3:21:24 even parents who disagree with me or I disagree with them,

3:21:27 should have their three minutes

3:21:29 regardless. I appreciate, again, where the board is coming from

3:21:33 on this issue, not wanting

3:21:34 marathon board meetings, not wanting trying to keep the tone

3:21:40 down and keep the decorum

3:21:43 in the room. And I do appreciate that. And I understand that.

3:21:47 But like many of the other

3:21:49 parents have shared, when we come to address the board, we’re

3:21:51 taking time away from our

3:21:52 families. We’re taking time away from our schedules and things

3:21:57 to set the time to address

3:21:58 the board on issues that are important to us. And the fact that

3:22:02 you want to take that

3:22:03 away or you want to limit that in any way, shape, or form, I

3:22:07 think is a slap in the face

3:22:08 to parents, even parents who disagree with me on issues that I

3:22:12 come to address.

3:22:13 As I mentioned, I am from Chicago. I’ve worked with a lot of

3:22:16 people, politicians, friends,

3:22:18 church members, who disagree with me politically. And I can work

3:22:23 with people who disagree with

3:22:25 me, who have different points of view than I do. And I really

3:22:28 wish that the board would

3:22:30 lead by example in that way. I am doing that in the schools that

3:22:34 my kids are a part of.

3:22:36 We’re helping to bridge the gap as a family. That’s part of our

3:22:39 family values. And I want

3:22:42 to work with the board, even if we disagree. Thank you.

3:22:49 Hi. I echo everything that Sarah just said.

3:22:55 Karen, can you just repeat your name for them for a minute,

3:22:57 please?

3:22:58 My name is Karen. Hi.

3:23:00 Last name?

3:23:01 And I’m B side and I’m district three. And I have reached out to

3:23:05 my rep before and heard

3:23:07 nothing. It seems like there has been a changed air in this

3:23:12 board. Sometimes you guys always

3:23:13 seem to listen to us. And as of late, it’s like non-existent.

3:23:16 And I’m scared that if

3:23:18 we don’t have our three minutes, the half of the time that we

3:23:21 are speaking, you’re not

3:23:22 paying attention. Some of you, some of you are, and I appreciate

3:23:25 that. We have offered

3:23:27 to help. We’ve offered to work with you, even if we disagree

3:23:29 with you because it’s our kids

3:23:31 that are in jeopardy here by not paying attention. We didn’t pay

3:23:34 attention to what’s going on

3:23:35 with the special needs school issues regarding masks. And look

3:23:39 what happened. We’re national

3:23:40 mocking laughing stocks. I’m really embarrassed about that

3:23:44 because that’s the school I went

3:23:46 to. That’s the school my brother went to and all six of my

3:23:49 children. I raised a legacy

3:23:53 of kids coming up from Brevard County Schools that went to the

3:23:56 schools that I went to and

3:23:57 my husband went to. Most of my children were A students. The

3:24:01 apple doesn’t fall far from

3:24:02 the tree. They speak their mind. They do volunteer work in

3:24:05 public. They work with the kids younger

3:24:08 and less fortunate than them. All the way through high school,

3:24:11 both my daughters cheercoached

3:24:12 with me with disadvantaged kids. Even on days they’d rather have

3:24:15 gone to the movies and

3:24:16 gone out with their friends, they still were with me with

3:24:20 unfortunate kids. They’re not

3:24:22 even related to and they were helping. I just wanted to point

3:24:25 that out because I can show

3:24:26 a record of public service of public leadership. I have never

3:24:30 been in trouble. I have never

3:24:32 gone to anybody’s house, anybody in front of me or anybody

3:24:35 behind me or anybody that

3:24:36 I would meet in the future. I don’t agree with it. I think it’s

3:24:39 really a heinous thing

3:24:40 to do to our community. Because in our community, we have to

3:24:43 trust each other. What if something

3:24:45 bad happens like another hurricane, we have to all get together

3:24:48 by limiting our public

3:24:49 contact time. Here, coming here, we’re losing connections with y’all.

3:24:54 If you try to tell

3:24:55 us we can’t talk without a mask on, then put the mask off, take

3:24:58 the mask on, put it off,

3:24:59 take it on. It’s so confusing. We already let them wear them if

3:25:03 they want to. If I wanted

3:25:04 one on, I’d have one on right now. And I believe in PPE because

3:25:07 I brought earplugs tonight

3:25:09 because that guy out front was playing obscene music on that

3:25:11 thing. And it was very loud

3:25:12 and could have hurt our ears. So I came with PPE with masks and

3:25:16 I handed out stuff to others.

3:25:19 So I am a team player. I’m here to offer to be a team player and

3:25:22 to continue to be a team

3:25:23 player. I have never been at anybody’s house in front of me,

3:25:27 nobody’s house behind me.

3:25:28 And I have no intention on ever doing that. I have separated

3:25:31 ties with every idiot that

3:25:32 did something like that. And I’m not apologizing for them

3:25:35 because they’re their own person.

3:25:37 I didn’t do it. Why should I apologize and quit linking me with

3:25:40 them? I am Karen Colby.

3:25:44 I am an alumni, a mom, a friend, and I want to work with you.

3:25:49 Okay. Thank you, Karen.

3:25:54 Next.

3:25:55 How’s this? A little hot.

3:25:58 Sir, if you could just state your name for the record.

3:26:02 Yeah, you got it. Jeremy Bauer. First time, long time. I wasn’t

3:26:05 planning to come here

3:26:06 tonight and make a speech. That’s why it looked like it came

3:26:09 from a luau.

3:26:10 We raised that up for him. He’s standing over.

3:26:12 You know, I’m a business owner here in Brevard County. I’m a

3:26:15 packaging company. I put people

3:26:17 to work. I might be hiring some of those teachers that left. We’re

3:26:20 hiring now. Give her a packaging

3:26:22 shout out there. You know, I wasn’t planning to speak, but I

3:26:27 felt compelled to. There’s

3:26:29 a lot of talk of domestic terrorism and people being very

3:26:34 opinionated about their children

3:26:37 and potentially even something being politicized that’s not. But

3:26:41 I want to just pose a couple

3:26:42 questions to the people here. Mr. Bowers, I’m going to stop your

3:26:46 clock

3:26:46 just for a moment to address something, okay? Yeah.

3:26:49 I’m sure that your intentions are absolutely pure, but we do

3:26:52 have an expectation that it

3:26:53 be directed, any comments be directed to the chair as opposed to

3:26:56 to the audience. So if

3:26:58 you could, you could just divide that one. Yeah, oh, okay,

3:27:01 procedure that I speak to

3:27:02 you guys, not the constituents. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And on the

3:27:08 policy issue before

3:27:09 us, if you would. Yeah, okay. It’s pretty relevant because

3:27:16 this is going to take, you know, between two and a half and

3:27:18 three minutes. I think three

3:27:19 minutes is probably pretty, pretty appropriate. So I’m going to

3:27:21 go ahead and restart your

3:27:22 clock, okay? Got it. All right, let’s rock. But yeah, like

3:27:26 I said, I’m a business owner and political comment is important.

3:27:32 Which group is the domestic

3:27:33 terrorist, I think? And it’s important that I’m saying this in

3:27:35 three minutes. So, you

3:27:36 know, because we’ve already gone through one and I haven’t even

3:27:39 gotten to my point. Is

3:27:40 it the group that’s that’s putting masks on people or the group

3:27:43 that’s mandating choice?

3:27:45 Is it the group that’s saying, hey, let’s have three minutes? Or

3:27:49 is it the group that’s

3:27:49 saying we’re definitely going to limit the time that you have to

3:27:53 speak at a public forum?

3:27:54 Which group is more likely to be a domestic terrorist? Pretty

3:27:58 troubling when you put it

3:27:59 that way. So let’s make this clear. I’m here tonight

3:28:02 as a concerned citizen, a constituent of District Three, but

3:28:05 next time I come here, I’ll be

3:28:06 a political candidate. You hear that? That’s all I have.

3:28:14 » All right. This is getting ridiculous. » I know. No one’s.

3:28:18 » Thank you, Senator Sullivan. So when I so talking about the

3:28:22 amount of time I would

3:28:25 appreciate that you not reduce the time to one minute for non-agenda

3:28:30 items. I think it’s

3:28:32 especially important to listen to parents. When I came moved to

3:28:36 this district, I came

3:28:38 here with my oldest is ESE and my other kids are gifted. So what

3:28:45 did this district do to

3:28:47 my kids? They put my ESE kids in an ESE clustered class in the

3:28:53 school. That is not that violates

3:28:55 federal law, okay? As an ESE kid that is supposed to be legally

3:29:02 placed in a gen ed class, in

3:29:06 a gen ed class with 85% of the time to cluster him in a class

3:29:12 that was ESE clustered. What

3:29:15 happens is the performance level goes way down on those kids.

3:29:18 » Ma’am, can I ask you to speak to the policy, please?

3:29:20 » When I come in here to these meetings and I need to speak

3:29:25 about what was going on here,

3:29:27 if you – if I had one minute to explain what was going on, that

3:29:30 wouldn’t be sufficient.

3:29:32 For my gifted kids, I moved up here. I have a profoundly gifted

3:29:36 child and I have another

3:29:37 gifted kid. And their needs are very different. And they were

3:29:41 not being met. You guys do canned

3:29:43 EPs here. In the school we were in, we had one lecture –

3:29:47 » Once again, ma’am, I’m going to ask you to keep to the policy,

3:29:50 please.

3:29:50 » So again, I came into these meetings to talk to you guys

3:29:54 about the needs of our gifted

3:29:56 kids. I have a gifted Brevard Facebook group as a consequence. I

3:30:01 served on your gifted

3:30:03 board until I got too vocal and you disbanded, okay? So my

3:30:08 option – I couldn’t get what

3:30:11 I needed on being a board member of SAC. So my option was to

3:30:16 come in here on this platform

3:30:18 right here and have my three minutes. And now you’re going to

3:30:22 reduce that for parents

3:30:24 with kids’ needs to one minute? That’s shameful. Okay? And when

3:30:30 I read that, I was livid, okay?

3:30:33 It took a lot for me to come back into BPS, okay, to bring my

3:30:37 kids back in here. And when

3:30:39 I see these shenanigans that you guys are doing, it’s disgusting.

3:30:45 Thank you.

3:30:46 » Thank you. Next. » A little taller than me. Hi, I’m Michelle

3:30:56 Beavers again. And first I want to apologize for the language.

3:30:59 That was one of my choosing.

3:31:01 That was to get the point across of the things that are

3:31:03 happening in our schools. And on

3:31:05 that count, the limiting of the television coverage would not

3:31:10 allow parents to see things

3:31:12 like that and understand what’s happening so they could address

3:31:15 that in their schools

3:31:16 and look in their schools for these things that are happening. I

3:31:19 think it’s important

3:31:20 that they see not just what’s on your agenda, but what people

3:31:23 are actually concerned about.

3:31:25 So not just me, but anybody else who has a concern about their

3:31:29 child or children or classrooms,

3:31:32 I think it’s important that it’s a part of the public record and

3:31:34 that we have that chance

3:31:35 to get it on record. Also, coming here, now, I’ve done e-mails

3:31:40 before, too, that weren’t

3:31:41 answered. Coming here, I know you’re hearing me. I’m old school.

3:31:46 I have six kids. They

3:31:48 range anywhere from 36 years down to 11. So I have a huge span.

3:31:53 I’ve been helping in schools

3:31:55 since the very first one, 30 years ago when she first entered

3:32:00 kindergarten. I’ve been

3:32:02 in school every single year helping out, being room mother, SAC

3:32:08 committee, volunteer, and

3:32:10 all kinds of things. I don’t think it’s too much when you’re

3:32:13 getting paid to be up there

3:32:15 once or twice a month or however many special sessions you have

3:32:18 that you listen to the parents

3:32:19 and you record it. I think it’s a really small thing. If you

3:32:23 have to limit time a little

3:32:24 bit, okay. But I think it should all still be recorded. Thank

3:32:28 you.

3:32:28 » Thank you. » Hi, my name’s Carrie Tagus. I just wanted

3:32:38 to say with public comment, I’ve sent plenty of e-mails that

3:32:42 haven’t been answered. I’ve

3:32:44 made calls and I haven’t had callbacks. So this was the last

3:32:47 avenue. It’s why I started

3:32:48 coming to board meetings. It’s how I met the awesome parents and

3:32:52 moms for liberty who have

3:32:53 nothing short of amazing. The stuff going on in the news, it’s

3:33:00 not us. So the last thing

3:33:01 I want to say, I don’t want to take up too much time, but there

3:33:04 are nine officers that

3:33:05 I counted here and they look well equipped to protect us. And I

3:33:09 think it’s really insulting

3:33:10 to assume that they’re not. Thank you, guys. [ Applause ]

3:33:17 » Hello. Matthew Dolly again. Still a village idiot. To talk

3:33:27 about the time thing, as I

3:33:28 had said earlier, there’s two board members I had spoken with

3:33:32 back in May who had told

3:33:34 me we were going to talk on the phone about my child’s speech

3:33:37 delay and their prosperity

3:33:39 through the school system. I’m still waiting on those phone

3:33:42 calls from those two school

3:33:43 board members to discuss that topic. And the public forum is a

3:33:47 check and a balance. It’s

3:33:49 a way for me to come here and say, hey, I’m reaching out to you.

3:33:52 You’re not getting back

3:33:53 to me. This is why we need it. I’ve advocated this before or

3:33:56 complained, I should say, it

3:33:58 should be longer than three minutes. Not cut back. This public

3:34:03 forum is important because

3:34:04 I got to learn today that there’s parents that actually get to

3:34:07 volunteer to their school

3:34:09 without restriction. I’m curious as to why it’s parents on one

3:34:13 side of the aisle that

3:34:14 are able to come up here and brag about unrestricted

3:34:17 volunteering access, but that gives me hope

3:34:20 because my wife and I want to volunteer again. And also the

3:34:24 reason why I think time should

3:34:26 be longer than three minutes because I also want to speak out to

3:34:30 the domestic terrorism

3:34:32 stuff. I’m telling you right now, a person’s house is not the

3:34:36 place. It is not the place

3:34:38 their family was there. And I don’t care what kind of flack I’m

3:34:42 going to get for this. I

3:34:43 saw the YouTube video of the lady out on the sidewalk. That’s

3:34:47 where you should have been.

3:34:49 I don’t fault you for that at all. Come to my house and see what

3:34:52 you find. It will be

3:34:53 very similar. Someone’s private property is not the place. It is

3:34:58 sacred grounds. Okay.

3:35:00 This is the arena. This is the forum. This is where we come to

3:35:05 combat our ideas. And

3:35:07 that’s why we need as much time as possible to do it. Three

3:35:10 minutes is not enough. It

3:35:11 should be longer and you should provide coffee. Like I said that

3:35:14 one time, but that being

3:35:16 said, like the freedom of speech is such a foundational thing.

3:35:21 You know, without it and

3:35:23 without some of the other amendments of the bill of rights, we

3:35:26 will crumble. Please do

3:35:27 not impinge on it. Please don’t do anything like that, whatever.

3:35:30 And I’m going to say

3:35:31 it again because I still got 50 seconds. So there’s like a heyday

3:35:34 for me to have six minutes.

3:35:36 If you are the person that’s going to travel to somebody’s house,

3:35:41 you do not have my support.

3:35:43 You, as I said before, you will never stand beside me and I will

3:35:46 never stand behind you.

3:35:48 And with that being said, if any of these school boards feel

3:35:51 intimidated, I know you

3:35:53 got the police officers here. Obviously they’ve done their job

3:35:56 because nobody’s been physically

3:35:57 harmed. You contact me and I will come to your house and I’ll

3:36:00 stand on your sidewalk

3:36:02 for you because that’s malarkey bullcrap. 100% it is un-American

3:36:08 to go to somebody’s

3:36:09 house and try to intimidate them to align with you. And if you

3:36:12 come to my house and

3:36:13 do the same thing, you’re going to get the same thing. The young

3:36:17 lady did a pissed off

3:36:18 parent. Thank you. Thanks. Next and guys, if we could just keep

3:36:27 your comments focused

3:36:29 on the policy at hand, that would be great. Thanks. Roger that.

3:36:33 Coffee and donuts. And

3:36:35 don’t forget to state your name for the record, please. Coffee

3:36:38 and donuts. Sorry, I’m greedy.

3:36:44 Donuts. Sorry. With regard to the policy for public speaking, I

3:36:52 would greatly appreciate

3:36:55 having three minutes to speak to you all. And you are beloved in

3:37:01 our community. Even

3:37:03 if we have disagreements, you are the force of our community and

3:37:09 for our children. And

3:37:12 you are greatly respected for your office that you hold. And so,

3:37:16 you know, you are very

3:37:18 much appreciated. With regard to the mask mandate, that mandate

3:37:24 needs to end. The illegal

3:37:26 mask mandate, I mean, just needs to end all together. Just going

3:37:29 to remind you we’re talking

3:37:30 about the policy for public comment. Okay, so, sorry. It’s okay.

3:37:35 But I would like to

3:37:37 please request that we get our three minutes and that it be

3:37:41 broadcast so that other people

3:37:43 that may have to work can watch it later. And I heard a speaker

3:37:49 two board meetings ago

3:37:51 who said that she watches you all no matter what state she’s in.

3:37:56 And she listed like four

3:37:57 or five states she travels a lot. So she loves you. And we love

3:38:02 you. So please let us interact

3:38:05 with you in our three minutes. Thank you very much. Thank you.

3:38:16 Good evening, Kevin Marshall.

3:38:17 I’m in district three. Unfortunately, we’ve had some trouble in

3:38:20 that district lately.

3:38:22 So I had no plans on speaking tonight, but I do third donuts and

3:38:25 coffee, by the way.

3:38:27 But I do want to get to the point. I have emailed you concerns.

3:38:30 I have emailed you questions.

3:38:32 I have emailed you a lot of suggestions. And I get a lot of

3:38:35 responses whenever you’re defending

3:38:38 yourself. After you’ve already insulted us as parents, you’ve

3:38:41 insulted a group that I

3:38:43 support because I didn’t have a voice before Moms for Liberty

3:38:46 came about and told us that

3:38:48 we did have a voice and told us what to do to get in contact

3:38:51 with you. So if you’re going

3:38:52 to cut our time, and you’re going to cut us to the end of the

3:38:55 meeting, how do you want

3:38:57 us to contact you? How do you want us to get a response? I mean,

3:39:01 please tell us because

3:39:02 you don’t follow through with what we’re telling you during the

3:39:05 meetings. And you only respond

3:39:07 when you’re defending yourself. So when do we get a chance to

3:39:10 have a question and answer

3:39:11 or a discussion or debate? Because we don’t see that we have

3:39:16 that. So I’m going to make

3:39:17 that very brief. Think about that. Maybe send out Facebook

3:39:20 notification, whatever fits your

3:39:21 fancy. I just want to know how we’re supposed to communicate

3:39:24 with you as parents who are

3:39:25 terrified for our kids. My child is in kindergarten. I can’t

3:39:28 even tell you what we’ve dealt with

3:39:30 through this process. It’s not enjoyable, and it’s actually

3:39:34 embarrassing. So please

3:39:35 listen to us and let our voices be heard. Or at least tell us

3:39:38 how to communicate with

3:39:40 you otherwise. Thank you. Thanks, Devin. Anyone else that wishes

3:39:46 to speak to policy 0169.1

3:39:49 participation at board meetings. All right, hearing none, I will

3:39:54 entertain a motion. I

3:40:00 move to approve the current policy. I have a motion from Miss

3:40:06 McDougal. Is there a second?

3:40:08 Second. I have a second from Miss Campbell got open for

3:40:11 discussion. Miss McDougal, your

3:40:13 motion. Would you like to discuss? I think we have. Oh, no, it’s

3:40:19 not on. I’m so sorry.

3:40:21 We have vetted this through our council. We were very concerned.

3:40:26 We wanted to make sure

3:40:28 that we were following what was legally possible for us. And Mr

3:40:33 Gibbs, we have we are not breaking

3:40:36 any laws at this point. Is that my understanding? No, you can.

3:40:42 You said the rules for your public

3:40:45 period. It’s limited public forum as established by statute for

3:40:50 public meetings. You got to

3:40:52 set the ground rules for those as long as the public’s only

3:40:55 given an opportunity unless

3:40:56 you expand the forum for items before the board. So that would

3:41:03 be agenda item. And and

3:41:05 I want to be clear in this policy. We have stated that we can

3:41:10 vote to extend times. I

3:41:12 want to make sure that everyone we have put that in there. So I

3:41:15 just want to make sure

3:41:16 that people are clear on that that we are not trying to limit

3:41:19 people’s voice. That’s

3:41:21 Campbell. I know we’re trying to go back and forth, but I just I

3:41:27 intend to support the

3:41:30 vote tonight, but I want to share some things. And because there’s

3:41:33 been a lot of misunderstanding,

3:41:35 I encourage everybody last week to go and listen to the workshop.

3:41:38 And I think Mr. Burns

3:41:40 department for made a little short, but I want there are a

3:41:42 couple of things that didn’t

3:41:43 get addressed that day. I’d like to talk about really quick. One

3:41:48 is, you know, the board,

3:41:50 we came together in a couple of sessions, I think, at an hour

3:41:54 retreat or check in. And

3:41:56 we start talking about this back in the spring and and started

3:41:59 brainstorming what what can

3:42:00 we do better? And we talked with counsel and one of so I, I will

3:42:07 just say this, that that

3:42:08 was one of the most actually this process has been one of the

3:42:11 most collaborative processes

3:42:12 that we’ve had because we all gave a little we all took a little

3:42:15 and we came up with what

3:42:17 we have before us today. Because we’re trying to make things

3:42:20 better. We’re not trying to

3:42:22 get out by, you know, 843 or before Chick-fil-A closes. They

3:42:27 close at 10. But we’re not trying

3:42:31 to do that. The second thing is, as we started looking at what

3:42:34 are the problems that I see

3:42:37 the really definition of one of the problems is people started

3:42:40 looking at this as an open

3:42:42 forum. I’m not going to go into the legal definitions, but I can

3:42:45 send them to you if

3:42:46 you’d like the difference between an open open forum versus a

3:42:48 limited public forum,

3:42:50 it is. And so it’s been taken as we want to silence parent

3:42:54 voices. So and by the way,

3:42:56 I have three points and a caveat. So it’s almost like a sermon.

3:43:01 The over the past year,

3:43:02 during the public comment time, people have used their three

3:43:06 minutes to share their political

3:43:08 opinions on how the presidential election went. They’ve used

3:43:11 their three minutes to

3:43:12 talk about immigration. They’ve used their three minutes to talk

3:43:15 about how bad Democrats

3:43:17 are or how bad Republicans are. They’ve used their three minutes

3:43:20 to insult parents in the

3:43:21 room, one side insulting one group of parents, one side

3:43:24 insulting the other group of parents,

3:43:26 all things that had nothing to do with this board. They’ve used

3:43:28 their three minutes as

3:43:29 a sales pitch to try to sell us various products. They’ve used

3:43:33 their three minutes to share

3:43:36 their personal sexual history. So our public is guaranteed by

3:43:43 law and by our policy and

3:43:45 by this policy also the opportunity to address the board about

3:43:49 how we’re running the district.

3:43:52 But the public is not guaranteed a microphone and a camera to

3:43:55 speak whatever irrelevant

3:43:57 or inappropriate thing that they want to broadcast over our

3:44:02 YouTube channel. And that is the

3:44:05 thing that I think we all had this mutual frustration that

3:44:08 people were using it, really

3:44:09 abusing it to spew whatever that really didn’t have anything to

3:44:13 do. Now, we’ve heard a lot

3:44:16 of things tonight, a lot of parents concerned that it’s their

3:44:18 topics that we do need to

3:44:20 hear. I’ve talked about it and that’s going to be in my caveat

3:44:23 here in just a little bit.

3:44:24 But those are the things we’re trying to curtail. We don’t want

3:44:26 to curtail parent voice or public

3:44:28 voice because some people come talk to us, have really good

3:44:30 things to say and they’re

3:44:31 not current parents. But the third thing I want to bring up is

3:44:35 that I wonder how many

3:44:39 people have actually read our current policy on this because our

3:44:43 current policy, the actual

3:44:44 verbiage states that our public comment time is only going to be

3:44:50 on agenda items. It only

3:44:51 talks about propositions could be brought before the board. It

3:44:55 also says public comment

3:44:56 time will be limited to 30 minutes, which would be 10 people.

3:45:00 And unless extended by

3:45:02 a vote of the board and then the rest of the comment time would

3:45:05 be moved to the end of

3:45:06 the meeting, not where we’ve been doing ours before voting, but

3:45:09 to the end of the meeting,

3:45:11 in which case some people may have things that they wanted to

3:45:13 say about things we were

3:45:14 going to vote on, but we wouldn’t have heard them. That is what

3:45:16 our current policy says.

3:45:18 So if the choice for me, and these are things we talked about,

3:45:21 if the choice for me was

3:45:22 between enforcing our current policy, which doesn’t allow people

3:45:27 to speak off the agenda

3:45:29 and moves people who might have things to say that we’re going

3:45:31 to vote on to the very

3:45:32 end, and actually we have been counseled in our master board

3:45:36 training to use the policy

3:45:37 to, if we’re going to have a policy, we might as well enforce it.

3:45:40 So if the choice is enforce

3:45:41 the current policy or have a policy that guarantees that people

3:45:44 who are going to speak off the

3:45:46 agenda, and this was very important for me and this was part of

3:45:48 the give and take that

3:45:49 we had to have, that people are going to speak, get that time,

3:45:53 even if it’s just a minute,

3:45:54 then I’ll take the new revised version. Now, a lot’s been said

3:46:00 about how to communicate

3:46:02 with us, and I understand the frustration of people who call or

3:46:05 they email and they

3:46:07 don’t get a response, but I will continue to say that this forum,

3:46:10 this three minutes

3:46:11 where there can’t be back and forth, is not really the best way,

3:46:15 at least for me, to communicate

3:46:17 with me, because I can’t respond back to you, and I can tell you

3:46:21 time after time after time

3:46:22 just in this week alone in the past seven days where someone’s

3:46:25 emailed us or emailed

3:46:26 me and said here I have a problem, I’ve sent it immediately to

3:46:29 staff, gotten a response

3:46:30 within a few hours, and the problem has gotten taken care of,

3:46:34 and that to me is an effective

3:46:35 way of working. Waiting until school board meeting, which might

3:46:38 not happen for two or

3:46:39 three weeks or more, to save it up, to say it then in a public

3:46:42 comment time, is not effective.

3:46:44 And I will tell you this, for the people who have emailed us,

3:46:47 some people, I maybe think

3:46:49 they still can only email their own school board member, you can

3:46:51 email all of us, you

3:46:52 can email any of us, and if you need a phone call, I’ve talked

3:46:56 to lots of people, including

3:46:57 Mr. Dolly, who don’t live in my district, I welcome you, email

3:47:03 me, I will take care

3:47:04 of you. We are elected by our five districts, but we all are

3:47:09 responsible for all of the

3:47:10 citizens and all the students and all the schools in the county,

3:47:13 and so it’s not just

3:47:14 one person who, they may represent you because they were in your

3:47:18 voting district, but we

3:47:19 all represent all of you, so please reach out if you’re having a

3:47:22 hard time communicating

3:47:24 with one of us, communicate to all of us, and we’ll try to take

3:47:27 care of the problem

3:47:28 that happens every day, multiple times a day, and I see it. Here’s

3:47:31 the caveat. I have said

3:47:33 this to a few people this week who have reached out to me. This

3:47:36 is not permanent. Someone

3:47:37 said this is permanent. It’s not permanent. It’s not any more

3:47:39 permanent than our current

3:47:40 public comment policy, which we are voting to change whether we’re

3:47:44 going to change it

3:47:45 or not, and it can be revised again. Interestingly, board, I

3:47:50 have heard, and you may have as well,

3:47:52 from people on multiple sides of a few issues who have a problem

3:47:58 with one particular part,

3:48:00 and we’ve heard it tonight, but I’ve also heard it in some phone

3:48:03 calls and emails, and

3:48:03 I’ve seen it on social media. The one thing that keeps coming

3:48:06 back up that is consistent

3:48:09 is the video piece, and so I, here’s what I know, Ms. Jenkins,

3:48:13 you mentioned it at our

3:48:14 workshop that you thought, for transparency’s sake, that we

3:48:16 ought to leave that in, and

3:48:18 I did not join you that day, but I will tell you, I think if we’re

3:48:22 listening to people

3:48:23 as if you have had the same kind of feedback as I have, what I

3:48:26 would like to suggest as

3:48:27 we move forward, and then I’ll close with this, is that we

3:48:31 revisit this pretty quickly,

3:48:34 because I think, I don’t think we can change that tonight.

3:48:37 Correct me if I’m wrong, Paul,

3:48:39 because that would be more than a technical change.

3:48:41 Yeah, you’re voting to approve it tonight. Right. So here is

3:48:45 what I would suggest that

3:48:46 we do, if it’s amenable to the board, and Madam Chair, you

3:48:50 direct us however we want

3:48:52 after the vote, is that we go ahead and move to revise the

3:48:55 policy immediately, and to make

3:48:57 that change to allow the cameras to be on. Still leaving

3:49:00 everything else in place, but

3:49:02 that would be my request, and if I need to do it as a motion

3:49:06 after we’re done, I can

3:49:07 do that however Mr. Gibbs says. So the only, just a point of

3:49:12 clarification, Ms. Campbell,

3:49:13 because I don’t want there to be any understanding from the

3:49:17 audience side on that. A request

3:49:20 to revise the policy requires that we go through the policy

3:49:23 amendment process again, so when

3:49:25 you say immediate, if the board supports, we can start that

3:49:28 process, but it’s not going

3:49:30 to be an immediate change to the policy, so just for

3:49:32 clarification. Right, then we would

3:49:34 start that process, in which case, we’ve got I think three weeks

3:49:37 before the next meeting,

3:49:38 if there’s room on the November workshop that we could do that,

3:49:41 if it, like I said, if there

3:49:43 was movement from the board to do that, and then we could vote

3:49:45 for it in December, and

3:49:47 honestly the way Mr. Gibbs wrote the policy, we could probably

3:49:49 vote that night if we felt

3:49:50 like to go ahead and leave the cameras on for the end of the

3:49:53 meeting, but that’s, that

3:49:54 would be my caveat, thank you. Mr. Susan. She hasn’t, do you

3:50:05 want to? Yeah, that’s fine.

3:50:05 I appreciate that. I mean, I made that statement when we had our

3:50:10 offsite meeting, we had our

3:50:12 workshop, and when we had our last board meeting. Frustrating

3:50:15 that we’re having this conversation

3:50:17 now, because my whole point was that it increased the volatility

3:50:21 of the community when it came

3:50:23 to this policy, and don’t know if you noticed, but most of the

3:50:27 comments were directed at

3:50:28 me as if it was, you know, my reasoning why we were doing this,

3:50:33 and if I felt that way,

3:50:35 so I just want to make that very clear that from the beginning,

3:50:38 that was something that

3:50:39 I said, I don’t understand the point of turning the camera off,

3:50:42 it just makes the public think

3:50:44 that we’re trying to hide something, even if we’re not, there’s

3:50:47 no point behind it,

3:50:48 people have cell phones and can record it anyway, so we might as

3:50:51 well just keep it on,

3:50:52 so I’m with Miss Campbell on that one. Thank you, Miss Jenkins.

3:50:58 Thank you, I had a couple

3:50:58 of things. So I went ahead and, you know, we got to a point

3:51:02 where all of a sudden there

3:51:03 was a lot of community input, and I started looking around and

3:51:06 started asking people,

3:51:07 I said, what do you think about this, I started pushing back and

3:51:10 forth. So in the community,

3:51:13 I got consistently, why does this matter, we pay the taxes,

3:51:16 there are three minutes,

3:51:18 right? Okay. The employer groups, a lot of them, our buses, bus

3:51:24 drivers, everybody else

3:51:25 started telling me, why are you restricting our speech, we may

3:51:30 have to come in on an issue,

3:51:32 there might be 10 teachers that want to come in and speak, you’re

3:51:35 going to limit us and

3:51:36 you’re going to take us off, that’s not fair. Fellow elected

3:51:40 officials, I called around

3:51:41 to many of our elected officials and talked to them. And each

3:51:44 one of them, I mean, there

3:51:46 was not one that said, they said the optics on this are really

3:51:49 bad because of the timing

3:51:50 that you guys are doing it. They said, and we don’t, and we

3:51:53 wouldn’t. And then one of

3:51:54 them in particular, two of them actually gave instances where

3:51:57 people would come in and do

3:51:58 exactly what you’re saying. It’s like we have the local, not

3:52:02 nothing against you, Matthew,

3:52:04 but the local village idiots that come in and speak about

3:52:06 everything that’s out there,

3:52:07 right? But that’s their right. That’s what they do. I was like,

3:52:11 Okay, okay, I’m listening,

3:52:13 I’m going. And then I started looking at and I called two of my

3:52:18 friends. One of them’s

3:52:19 a very, very well known attorney up in Tallahassee, and there’s

3:52:23 another one here locally that’s

3:52:25 well known. Both First Amendment lawyers with over 30 years in

3:52:31 First Amendment. And I asked

3:52:33 them, I said, Is this legal? Is this right to do where you were

3:52:37 taking the visual off

3:52:38 at the end? And they both said with 30 years experience that

3:52:43 there is some gray area there,

3:52:45 but it is not a sound and strong policy. So after I talked to

3:52:49 the attorneys, after I talked

3:52:50 to the community, after I talked to the fellow elected officials,

3:52:54 the employer groups, I

3:52:55 then came back and started looking at it. And I said, What are

3:52:59 the optics on this thing?

3:53:00 It looks like we’re trying to reduce it during a time when we

3:53:03 have the height and the most

3:53:05 heightened up awareness on our school board. But just the optics

3:53:09 and what that does long

3:53:11 term in our community is the trust and transparency and

3:53:14 everything else. And I and I and I understand

3:53:17 and I will say to everybody in here there is not that is not

3:53:19 what this is about. Just

3:53:21 as it was said before, this was not brought forward to do that.

3:53:24 But it’s what it looks

3:53:25 like. And when we have to start gaining the trust and

3:53:27 transparency inside of our community,

3:53:29 even though it’s not what it was meant to be, along with the

3:53:32 lawyers, along with the

3:53:33 community, along with the employer groups, along with the fellow

3:53:36 elected officials, I

3:53:37 started having some serious issues. Okay. And it just got to me

3:53:42 that the optics were

3:53:43 bad and that that piece that you talked about was one of the

3:53:46 issues I had a problem with.

3:53:48 The other problem is is that we are limiting the people who come

3:53:51 afterwards to one minute,

3:53:52 no matter what. But we’re limiting all of the other ones to

3:53:56 multiples. So if there’s

3:53:57 ten public speakers, they get three minutes. I have a problem

3:54:01 with just having each speaker

3:54:02 afterwards only speaking for one minute, because there may be,

3:54:05 as it was stated here tonight

3:54:06 and I’ve talked to other people, an issue that takes more than

3:54:09 one minute. For somebody

3:54:10 to come down here to a non-agenda item, it’s got to be pretty

3:54:13 serious, and they may want

3:54:14 that extra more than one minute. Now, we can always vote to

3:54:17 extend, but that might not

3:54:19 always be there. So then I started looking at that and I said,

3:54:22 you know what, I can’t

3:54:23 support this policy the way that it’s written. So Gibbs, I don’t

3:54:30 tell me no, don’t do it.

3:54:33 We can amend it now while we’re here, and then we start the

3:54:37 process, right?

3:54:39 If you change it, you can’t vote to approve it tonight, because

3:54:42 then you…

3:54:43 But that’s one extra step towards it.

3:54:45 You can say you’re going to yank it off the agenda and just

3:54:48 start the process over again.

3:54:50 That’s fine.

3:54:51 So we start the process, I mean, I’m hearing from one board

3:54:53 member and another board member

3:54:55 that they want this too.

3:54:56 You can’t satisfy rulemaking, because you’re going to change it.

3:54:58 So I have to advertise

3:54:59 14 days prior to a workshop, and that’s your first public

3:55:03 hearing, and then 28 days prior

3:55:05 to adoption, which is your final hearing, so tonight. So tonight

3:55:09 cannot be your first

3:55:11 meeting. It has not been advertised for 14 days. The rulemaking

3:55:16 process is 14 days prior

3:55:17 to a workshop, 28 days prior to your final adoption.

3:55:21 So okay, I get you. I don’t physically believe in that portion

3:55:26 of this policy. I would like

3:55:28 to… I will vote against this, because I don’t think that even

3:55:32 if you don’t believe

3:55:33 in it and she doesn’t believe in it, that we should do it, and

3:55:36 then force it upon our

3:55:37 people and then change it in three terms. I just don’t. And

3:55:40 whatever. I mean, so we

3:55:41 stay here a little bit longer, we listen to a little bit more.

3:55:44 And that’s all.

3:55:45 So I would like to make that amendment, but I can’t. So I will

3:55:50 be voting against this

3:55:52 in the attempt that we can bring it back and go through the

3:55:56 process again.

3:55:57 So I guess we could… I want to talk about what Mr. Shinn said,

3:56:12 but in just a second.

3:56:16 But I just want to… As mentioned this evening, someone talked

3:56:17 about the State Board of Education

3:56:18 meeting. I understand the frustration about the one minute, but

3:56:22 every one of us here tonight

3:56:24 recognized people who were watching the clock and were filling

3:56:28 the time. Some of us experienced

3:56:31 the people who got to three minutes and they could have gone for

3:56:33 another three and they

3:56:34 had it written out and so they were to go. But then we also have

3:56:38 had two meetings recently

3:56:39 where everybody got one minute. And it was pretty successful, I’d

3:56:44 say. Everybody got

3:56:44 to the point and we got it and we got out. And the State Board

3:56:46 of Education meeting that

3:56:47 was met, man, those guys are ruthless because that chair of our

3:56:52 State Board of Education,

3:56:55 they gave him one minute and if you got off topic, he didn’t

3:56:57 just remind you, he cut it

3:57:00 off. So I think we can get this done. But to your point, Mr.

3:57:07 Susan, I’m just trying

3:57:09 to figure out which way we do it because we have two ways. We

3:57:11 could go ahead and vote

3:57:12 tonight and it’ll be up to everybody’s choice and I hear what

3:57:15 you’re saying that you don’t

3:57:16 want to vote for it tonight. And if it passes, we could go into

3:57:21 rulemaking at the next workshop

3:57:23 and go ahead and change it. The earliest we could vote on it

3:57:26 would be the December meeting.

3:57:28 And then we could vote at those two meetings to go ahead and

3:57:33 leave the cameras on. We can

3:57:36 do that. Or we can vote it down now and not have the thing in

3:57:39 place. I go back to what

3:57:41 we’re guaranteeing in this policy with the revisions is to hear

3:57:44 the non-agenda items.

3:57:46 And I know this Board has been very gracious to hear those, even

3:57:49 if they are trying to

3:57:51 sell us something. But I just, I’m not really sure which way. I

3:57:57 don’t know, Mr. Gibbs, where

3:57:59 are we with the voting one way or the other? I mean, I’m trying

3:58:04 to figure out what difference

3:58:06 it makes. It’s your item. So, I mean, you guys can vote it up or

3:58:12 down. If you want to

3:58:13 pass it, you can pass it. If you want to say we’re going to go

3:58:15 to rulemaking and three

3:58:16 of you voted down, go back to rulemaking. We can do that. Okay.

3:58:21 Sounds like it’s going

3:58:23 back to rulemaking either way. Can I speak? Yes. Can I? Only

3:58:33 because, yeah, well, because

3:58:35 I haven’t spoken, if you want to go ahead and go again, Ms.

3:58:40 Jenkins. No. So, and I’ll

3:58:43 come right back to you. But so I think to your point, Ms.

3:58:51 Campbell, I think you made

3:58:56 some really great points and pointed out some really important

3:59:00 things. And I think we have

3:59:02 to say, again, this forum is not the best forum for resolution

3:59:09 of concern. And I’m going

3:59:12 to, Ms. Delaney, do you mind if I reference you personally? Okay.

3:59:16 So, Ms. Delaney referenced,

3:59:18 and I say this because we had a conversation yesterday, where

3:59:21 she expressed her concerns

3:59:22 and shared the situation of her daughter. And the only thing

3:59:26 that I will say is I think

3:59:27 we need to verify that that student was not at a Brevard public

3:59:30 school run by the district.

3:59:31 It was at a charter school. Because I think that’s an important

3:59:34 differentiation in how

3:59:36 staff handled the situation when you reach it out to them. But

3:59:40 as I shared with her,

3:59:42 it’s much more effective to pick up the phone and call me. And

3:59:45 let’s work through the issue.

3:59:47 As opposed to waiting for a board meeting, as you said. You’re

3:59:51 right. And she the point

3:59:53 she brought back was emails get lost or don’t get responded to

3:59:56 sometimes. And I absolutely

3:59:58 agree. I think we all try to get to them as much as we can. But

4:00:02 at the end of the day,

4:00:04 all five of our cell phone numbers are on the district website.

4:00:07 The main district number

4:00:08 Ms. Escobar over here takes calls for the board members and

4:00:13 sends us messages to follow

4:00:15 up with her. You can always obviously send us email, send her

4:00:20 email and she’ll follow

4:00:22 up with us. I think there are lots of ways to get in touch with

4:00:25 board members that are

4:00:26 much more effective than coming in speaking in a board meeting.

4:00:30 And I would agree. I don’t

4:00:32 think that you know, some things waiting for a board meeting or

4:00:39 coming to this this public

4:00:40 forum is the way to do it. And I just want to reiterate what Ms.

4:00:44 Campbell said, which

4:00:45 was that once we are elected, we serve all of you. So if I am

4:00:50 your designated representative

4:00:53 for the schools that you attend, and I’m not responding to you,

4:00:57 then please call any one

4:00:58 of my peers because I really try hard to return all of my phone

4:01:02 calls. But there are times

4:01:04 when I am buried for whatever reason and can’t get back to you

4:01:07 right away, it might take

4:01:08 me a day or two. I have faith that they will be responsive and

4:01:13 do all that they can to

4:01:14 assist you. And the beauty of it is I can immediately I spoke to

4:01:18 a father this afternoon

4:01:19 on my way to the board workshop, was able to get with staff when

4:01:24 I got here to have

4:01:25 a conversation so staff can start looking into the issue and

4:01:28 follow up with him as opposed

4:01:30 to no response, waiting till the next board meeting or any of

4:01:34 those things. So I think

4:01:37 we have to really think about the purpose of the public comment

4:01:41 and what we’re trying

4:01:43 to achieve with the policy. And one thing that hasn’t been

4:01:46 addressed, that I think is

4:01:47 really important to be addressed, is there a lot of people who

4:01:50 don’t come to board meetings

4:01:51 because they can’t sit through hours of public comment. Because

4:01:57 they don’t have childcare,

4:01:58 don’t want to bring their kids don’t want to. There are a lot of

4:02:02 people who don’t come

4:02:03 to board meetings because the environment and I appreciate the

4:02:06 person that reference

4:02:07 appreciation for keeping decorum. Because that’s what we’re

4:02:14 there is waving your hand.

4:02:16 Because that’s what we’re trying to accomplish is a forum here,

4:02:21 where we can all hear what

4:02:23 we need to hear and have it be done respectfully. But you know,

4:02:26 at the beginning of the meetings,

4:02:28 I say every meeting, this the purpose of this particular meeting

4:02:33 is for the business of

4:02:34 the board. I don’t think there’s anyone up here that doesn’t

4:02:37 want to hear from our public.

4:02:40 I’ve we get meeting requests all the time. Hey, can we have

4:02:43 coffee and talk? Absolutely.

4:02:45 I’d be happy to doesn’t matter if I agree with you or disagree

4:02:48 with you. We’re all working

4:02:49 for the same goals, right for our kids. So I just want people to

4:02:53 understand that this

4:02:54 forum is designed for a very specific thing. And we are happy to

4:02:59 make ourselves available

4:03:01 outside of this forum to address things that need more of our

4:03:04 time. I just don’t want it

4:03:06 to be perceived that we don’t want to hear what you have to say.

4:03:10 But we need to ensure

4:03:12 that we’re doing it in the most efficient and effective way to

4:03:15 work. And that’s not

4:03:16 necessarily coming up and and speaking at the board meeting for

4:03:20 three minutes or six

4:03:21 minutes when we have policies or like, we can do this, we can do

4:03:25 this together, we’re

4:03:26 not trying to silence you. And I, you know, I appreciate the

4:03:32 concerns about the videotaping

4:03:34 and I would absolutely support if after we take the vote, if you

4:03:37 guys want to start that

4:03:40 policy amendment process, but I do think that it’s important

4:03:43 that we go ahead and make the

4:03:44 changes that we have put in place to make the meetings more

4:03:47 manageable for so many reasons.

4:03:49 For those people who can’t come and spend all that much time for

4:03:51 the people who to stand

4:03:54 there and try to fill their three minutes. I mean, it’s, there’s,

4:03:59 there’s a lot to that.

4:04:00 So Miss Jenkins, I will gladly turn it back over to you at this

4:04:04 point.

4:04:05 Sure. I have to be like perfectly honest with you guys. What’s

4:04:08 more frustrating than listening

4:04:10 to somebody tell me something for three minutes or be vile to me

4:04:13 for three minutes is listening

4:04:14 to us go round and round and round in circles about a policy we

4:04:16 already discussed three

4:04:17 times. So can I please just call the question? Thank you.

4:04:26 Jenkins has called the question. Is there any opposition?

4:04:32 Do you want to respond?

4:04:43 All right, and the motion passes three.

4:05:13 Miss Pelford, can you read it to the public who voted which way

4:05:17 you can see it? Okay.

4:05:22 People that watch it can’t be. Yeah, and I don’t watch it. That’s

4:05:28 all. I mean, it’s just

4:05:28 I don’t know sometimes in fighter boats.

4:05:34 And I don’t it. My screen doesn’t even show me who voted how

4:05:37 about so they have more

4:05:38 questions. Okay. So Miss Campbell, if you’d like to bring that

4:05:48 issue back at board discussion,

4:05:49 I’ll go ahead and move to the rest of the action items. Okay.

4:05:54 Yes. All right, Dr. Mullins.

4:05:57 Sorry, it took me a second to find where we’re at. Yep. Section.

4:06:05 Section 1001 dot three nine

4:06:07 subsection one of the Florida statutes requires any board member

4:06:11 travel outside the district

4:06:13 exceeding $500 to receive prior approval to confirm the travels

4:06:17 for official business

4:06:18 and complies with the rules of the State Board of Education. An

4:06:21 opportunity for the public

4:06:23 to speak to this item must be provided prior to action by the

4:06:27 board. Each board member

4:06:28 has indicated his or her wish to attend the conference. First is

4:06:34 item G 33 on Cheryl McDougal’s

4:06:35 travel request to attend the FSB a conference November 29

4:06:41 through December 3, 2021. Is there

4:06:45 anyone present this evening who wishes to publicly address item

4:06:48 G 33 on Miss McDougal’s

4:06:50 travel request to attend the FSB a conference? Is there anyone

4:06:57 present this evening who wishes

4:06:58 to publicly address item G 33 on Miss McDougal’s travel request

4:07:02 to attend the FSB a conference?

4:07:05 Hearing none, I’ll entertain a motion. Moved by Miss Campbell.

4:07:10 Is there a second? Seconded

4:07:13 by Miss Jenkins. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, please

4:07:22 vote. Yeah, what am I

4:07:26 supposed to vote on my own? I think I think you guys have done

4:07:33 this in the past. I vividly

4:07:36 remember this before me where it was a really difficult question.

4:07:40 So I’m having major. Is

4:07:46 anyone else getting a everybody but you voted? Yes, if you would,

4:08:02 please. Hi. Can you give

4:08:05 me the vote count? Okay, motion passes five to zero. Next is

4:08:18 item G 34 and Jennifer Jenkins

4:08:20 travel request to attend the FSB a conference. Is there anyone

4:08:24 present this evening who wishes

4:08:25 to publicly address item G 34 on Miss Jenkins travel request to

4:08:30 attend the FSB a conference?

4:08:32 Is there anyone present this evening who wishes to publicly

4:08:35 address item G 34 on Miss Jenkins

4:08:37 travel request to attend the FSB a conference? Hearing none, I’ll

4:08:40 entertain a motion moved

4:08:42 to approve. Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Miss Campbell. Is

4:08:52 there any discussion? Please

4:08:57 vote. Motion passes five zero. Next is item G 35 on Katie

4:09:15 Campbell’s travel request to

4:09:17 attend the FSB a. Is there anyone present this evening who

4:09:20 wishes to publicly address

4:09:21 item G 35 on Campbell’s travel request to attend the FSB a

4:09:25 conference? Is there anyone

4:09:27 present this evening who wishes to publicly address item G 35 on

4:09:30 Miss Campbell’s travel

4:09:31 request to attend the FSB a conference? Hearing none, I’ll

4:09:34 entertain a motion to approve second

4:09:37 moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Miss McDougall. Is there any

4:10:02 discussion? Please vote. The

4:10:02 motion passes five zero. Next is item G 36 on Matt Susan’s

4:10:08 travel request to attend the

4:10:11 FSB a conference. Is there anyone present this evening who

4:10:14 wishes to publicly address

4:10:16 item G 36 on Mr. Susan’s travel request to attend the FSB a

4:10:20 conference? Is there anyone

4:10:22 present this evening who wishes to publicly address item G 36 on

4:10:25 Mr. Susan’s travel request

4:10:26 to attend the FSB a conference? Hearing none, I’ll entertain a

4:10:31 motion. Moved by Miss Jenkins,

4:10:33 seconded by Miss Campbell. Is there any discussion? Please vote.

4:10:50 The motion passes 5-0. Dr. Mullins.

4:11:00 Item G 37 is on Miss developers travel request to attend the FSB

4:11:04 a conference. Is there anyone

4:11:06 present this evening who wishes to publicly address item G 37 on

4:11:09 my my travel request

4:11:10 to attend the FSB a conference? Is there anyone present this

4:11:13 evening who wishes to publicly

4:11:15 address item G 37 on my travel request to attend to the FSB a

4:11:19 conference? Mr. Dolly,

4:11:21 are you raising your hand or just stretching? Okay. Hearing none,

4:11:25 I’ll entertain a motion

4:11:27 to approve. Moved by Mr. Susan, seconded by Miss McCougal. Is

4:11:29 there any discussion? It’s

4:11:33 really Katie. Is Katie faster? You want it Katie? I’ll give it

4:11:37 to you. All right. Hearing

4:11:39 none, please vote. The motion passes 5-0. Dr. Mullins. Next is

4:12:02 item G 38 on possible

4:12:04 amendment of the emergency mask policy. Thank you, Dr. Mullins

4:12:09 and members of the board.

4:12:10 As you all see, so this process has been a little bit different

4:12:16 because we’re so accustomed

4:12:18 to working from recommendations from the superintendent on the

4:12:22 agenda. So I did request addition of

4:12:25 this item to the agenda and have put forward recommendation, a

4:12:30 starting point, much like

4:12:32 we had before. So at the October 5th special board meeting, we

4:12:36 approved the motion to continue

4:12:38 the current emergency mask policy until we reached 50 COVID

4:12:42 cases per 100,000, at which

4:12:44 point the board had to take no action. It allowed Dr. Mullins to

4:12:48 remove the mask mandate

4:12:49 or update the mask mandate with a parental opt out and employee

4:12:53 mandate unless social

4:12:54 distancing is maintained in effect until October 29th, unless it’s

4:13:00 extended by the board. Obviously,

4:13:02 as I reflected earlier, I’m thankful to say that we reached that

4:13:05 measurement on Friday

4:13:07 and the superintendent was able to implement that parental opt

4:13:10 out. I’m very encouraged

4:13:12 by the numbers and certainly we want to see, I would say we all

4:13:15 want to see those numbers

4:13:16 go down. I did ask to have this item placed on the agenda to

4:13:21 extend that policy for the

4:13:23 final 30 days. And I would just remind our public, this is an

4:13:26 emergency policy, so it

4:13:28 cannot be extended beyond this final 30 days in the least

4:13:33 restrictive manner possible to,

4:13:35 in my opinion, still take us forward. My recommendation, and as

4:13:40 I said, it’s a starting point, certainly

4:13:41 open to discussion, is that we continue to require masks for our

4:13:45 students in pre-K through

4:13:46 sixth grade because there are no vaccines available. And while I

4:13:51 think we can all celebrate

4:13:52 where we are, I don’t know about you all, but I’m still hearing

4:13:55 from a significant number

4:13:56 of parents that are concerned about the safety of their students,

4:14:00 especially those who are

4:14:01 not yet eligible for vaccine. So the recommendation or the

4:14:08 request is to continue to require a

4:14:10 mask for students in pre-K through sixth grade with the parental

4:14:14 opt out option. And then

4:14:16 for students in grades seven through 12 and adults making masks

4:14:21 strongly recommended, but not mandated.

4:14:23 The only other thing that I would throw out there, and Ms.

4:14:25 Campbell, you may want to weigh

4:14:27 in on this particular request, I did, and I think we all got the

4:14:31 request this morning

4:14:32 from, I want to say it was a chorus teacher that was requesting

4:14:36 that we continue to require

4:14:38 masks in classrooms where students are going to be singing based

4:14:42 on the study that we talked

4:14:44 about the Colorado study. Okay. So yes, there was there was

4:14:52 concern expressed about not

4:14:54 having a mask requirement for indoor singing in seven through 12.

4:14:59 So I will with that,

4:15:01 as you all know, I don’t motion. So if anyone would like to make

4:15:05 a motion, and then we can

4:15:07 open for discussion or however you all want to move forward. I

4:15:15 can make a motion. Okay,

4:15:16 I make the motion. Can I just make the motion that we discussed

4:15:20 this is the current recommendation.

4:15:23 You can make a motion to approve the current recommendation and

4:15:25 then it can always be modified

4:15:27 in discussion. I make a motion that we approve the current

4:15:31 recommendation. I have a motion

4:15:33 for Miss McDougall. Is there a second to open for discussion?

4:15:36 And I have a second for Miss

4:15:38 Jenkins. That would open for discussion. Miss McDougall, your

4:15:41 motion your discussion. I’m

4:15:44 I do like that our middle school and high schools because of the

4:15:50 option of also of if

4:15:53 they want a vaccine, they can get a vaccine. And I feel that we’re

4:15:57 there definitely there.

4:15:59 And I think that makes perfect sense. I’m not the expert about

4:16:02 singing. I’m going to

4:16:03 leave that to Miss Campbell to talk about that some more. I do

4:16:08 think at this point,

4:16:09 we do need I get a lot a lot of emails from people and phone

4:16:14 calls, telling me how they

4:16:16 want the mask mandate. I would like it to be with a parental opt

4:16:20 out, not a medical

4:16:22 opt out. So I really support how you have raised this amendment

4:16:25 at this point. I only

4:16:27 have a concern about Dr. Mullins, maybe you can help me. How

4:16:32 does how does that look?

4:16:33 How does that look when we get the forms in to the school?

4:16:37 Because you and I talked to

4:16:39 a principal the other day. And what he what that principal

4:16:43 really said that, yes, he would

4:16:46 follow it definitely follows it. But it would have been better

4:16:49 not to just say, email it

4:16:50 or send an email, but to print it off and bring it in so that

4:16:53 one person is not inundated,

4:16:55 like the secretary, their email gets filled up. So how would

4:16:58 that work if we did it that

4:17:00 way if we had forms that people like I don’t know how it’s

4:17:03 working now with the parental

4:17:05 opt out? Currently, I don’t know what feedback we’ve heard. I’m

4:17:08 sorry, Miss McDougal. I’m

4:17:10 not sure I understand your question. I can rephrase it. I can’t

4:17:13 understand why. But so

4:17:15 but basically, how is it working with the current parental opt

4:17:19 out? What kind of workload

4:17:20 are we finding with our tools? Have we had that feedback? And

4:17:24 what are the principles

4:17:26 or the the administrators saying about the forms that are coming

4:17:31 in? I have not heard

4:17:32 any any that feedback has not come to me directly. I’m not aware

4:17:36 that there’s been a difficulty

4:17:38 in, you know, receiving the the parental opt out forms. I

4:17:42 anticipate schools have adapted

4:17:44 to the method which they have been turned into the school,

4:17:48 whether it’s via email or

4:17:49 brought in by the student, but they’re collected in the office

4:17:53 and then they are cataloging

4:17:55 those turned in forms. So yes, you did ask my question, but

4:18:01 there’s there’s one more

4:18:03 question and I don’t know if it’s been answered. I do know that

4:18:05 there was a constituent that

4:18:07 asked that they talked about that we’re noting we’re documenting

4:18:15 it in the system and was

4:18:17 concerned about how that was being used or not being used. And

4:18:21 do we documented in a

4:18:22 system and I think we need to share with the public. Why or why

4:18:25 not? We’re doing that.

4:18:28 I’d have to call it Dr. 30 Do you know if we are actually inputting

4:18:34 students indication

4:18:35 that they are a parental opt out in a s 400? Or is it retained

4:18:41 in the front office for

4:18:42 the administration’s reference? This is truly a better question

4:18:46 for Chris Moore, but my

4:18:47 understanding was there was a data element on one of the S

4:18:50 screens and as 400 that these

4:18:52 will be put into at some point, but I don’t know for sure. I got

4:18:57 a thumbs up from Dr.

4:18:59 Sullivan in the back. My great team coming in through the

4:19:05 magical door there. But so

4:19:08 to answer your question, Miss McDougal, I’m going to anticipate

4:19:14 that our school teams

4:19:16 are entering those into the appropriate field in a s 400. So

4:19:19 then any staff at the school

4:19:21 can look that up and know if a student has submitted a parental

4:19:27 opt out or not. Thank

4:19:29 you. Did I get around to your question? Answer your question.

4:19:39 All right. Thank you. Miss

4:19:40 Jenkins, you seconded. You want to go next on discussion? Yeah,

4:19:43 I’m just gonna be really

4:19:44 quick. I the only concern I have about this, I’m fine with the

4:19:48 parental opt out. We’ve

4:19:49 hit that number like we agreed upon. But for the 7th through 12th,

4:19:53 personally, I think

4:19:54 it should be a required mass. We know that no one’s going to

4:19:57 wear it if it’s not required.

4:19:58 If the intention is to mitigate, we should be putting it there

4:20:00 with a parental opt out

4:20:02 as well. Because we can’t assume just because vaccines are

4:20:05 available that all of our students

4:20:07 have access to those vaccines. And I think it’s our

4:20:09 responsibility as an educational

4:20:11 institution to keep those students safe. But then there’s that

4:20:14 simple parent opt out form

4:20:15 if their parents don’t want them to wear a mask. I think it kind

4:20:19 of, you know, takes

4:20:20 care of both sides there. But you know, takes the responsibility

4:20:23 off of us making sure that

4:20:24 we’re keeping all of our students safe regardless of their socio

4:20:27 economic status or the ability

4:20:28 to get to a vaccine. Thank you, Miss Jenkins. Anyone else want

4:20:33 to discuss? Mr. Susan’s giving

4:20:37 you the finger. All right. supposed to go second to last. All

4:20:44 right. So I sorry, I was

4:20:46 taking just a minute to look up a couple couple things because

4:20:48 the last time I had checked

4:20:49 that study from University of Colorado Boulder had not been

4:20:52 updated in a long time. So I

4:20:54 was just checking and it didn’t look like I don’t know if they

4:20:56 have I can’t see any

4:20:57 more studies. But they did release some more information in the

4:21:05 summer about arts particularly

4:21:09 band and choir. The things where you would be blowing through

4:21:16 things. Actually, can you

4:21:18 just go so I can finish this? No problem. Paul, can you read me

4:21:24 the actual emergency

4:21:26 mandate? You sent it to me the other day. Can you pull that up?

4:21:28 Sorry, I didn’t give

4:21:29 you a heads up. Because it is written completely different than

4:21:33 what we like the preamble the

4:21:35 basis behind it. All of that is geared towards something else.

4:21:38 You’ll just read that. Because

4:21:39 I think that once we start seeing that it’s it’s a little

4:21:43 different. Because we’re amending

4:21:46 something that we’re not looking at, right? You see the

4:21:50 beginning of it, it references

4:21:52 the court cases it references. Right, the preamble is about the

4:21:58 basis for implementation

4:22:00 of the mask mandate originally adopted. And it talks about

4:22:05 lawsuits that are currently

4:22:07 in place, right? It says the reason that we are implementing

4:22:10 this is because of the lawsuit

4:22:12 that has, and the judge had defined it based on that, and that

4:22:16 has been overrun by the

4:22:17 DCA, right? It’s been stayed by the DCA, but it also goes into

4:22:22 the parent bill of rights

4:22:23 and exceptions set forward in Florida statute like the 25236.

4:22:30 But the basis behind our argument

4:22:32 for this, which is stated inside of that was for the original,

4:22:37 prior to the most recent

4:22:38 updated changes by the governor, correct? Yes, it was the

4:22:42 original implementation by

4:22:44 this board. And the justification behind it is for the previous,

4:22:49 not the current. So we

4:22:51 are basically making an argument to impose this based on the

4:22:55 previous laws and regulations

4:22:59 and the argument and everything else. That’s what it says in the

4:23:01 preamble. I don’t know

4:23:03 what you’re referring to the previous laws. I can read it. I

4:23:07 have it up, but you want

4:23:09 me to read the whole thing? No, just the beginning, because it

4:23:12 sets the premise behind what we’re

4:23:14 doing is based on a premise of a previous lawsuit that was

4:23:18 stayed by the DCA, that a

4:23:20 new rule has come in. So like literally the fundamental

4:23:24 legislative intent behind it is

4:23:26 old. The preamble, Judge John C. Cooper, Florida Circuit Court

4:23:30 for the Second Circuit of Florida

4:23:32 found that the Centers for Disease Control is the preeminent

4:23:34 authority in the United

4:23:35 States for infectious diseases and control. Moreover, Section

4:23:40 252.36 sub one sub C Florida

4:23:42 statute states the legislature intends that during an extended

4:23:46 public health emergency

4:23:47 such as the COVID-19 pandemic, there should be a presumption

4:23:50 that K 12 public schools

4:23:52 to the greatest extent possible should remain open so long as

4:23:55 the health and safety of students

4:23:57 and school personnel can be maintained by specific public health

4:24:00 mitigation strategies

4:24:02 recommended by federal or state health agencies for educational

4:24:06 settings. The CDC qualifies

4:24:07 as a federal health agency as specified in Florida statute.

4:24:11 Moreover, CDC guidelines

4:24:12 explicitly recommend all individuals students as well as staff

4:24:16 wear face coverings while

4:24:17 inside whether they have been vaccinated or not, until the

4:24:20 spread of COVID-19 is better

4:24:22 control as the Florida legislature. We’re good. I just what I

4:24:26 was trying to get at was,

4:24:27 is that we based the beginning of it and the intent. So if you

4:24:31 guys are going to pass this,

4:24:32 I would try to reword that beginning so that it’s stronger for

4:24:36 the argument rather than

4:24:38 quoting a previous case that was stated. That’s all. That was

4:24:41 part of the beginning of it.

4:24:43 That helped. I’ll keep going. But it was just a recommendation.

4:24:46 All right, so we’ve heard

4:24:47 from multiple speakers that the hospitals, the CDC, our district,

4:24:54 every number that is

4:24:56 out there, every single data point is at the lowest that it can

4:25:01 be. The lowest it’s ever

4:25:03 been is in the 30s since this has started. And we’ve only been

4:25:07 below 50 for now 30 days

4:25:09 total over 18 months. So my common theme that I’m going to get

4:25:14 to is, is at what point are

4:25:16 we not going to have opt outs? And at what point are we not

4:25:19 going to have people wearing

4:25:21 masks and having policies and everything else? Because what it’s

4:25:25 doing is, is it feels to

4:25:26 me as we’re starting to put in the AS 400 piece, and we’re

4:25:30 starting to put it all in,

4:25:32 that this is slowly becoming permanent. And that’s not where we

4:25:38 started with this thing.

4:25:39 So let me get started. So right now, I talked to bus drivers,

4:25:45 teachers, administrators,

4:25:48 the teachers union, the community, the bus drivers cannot

4:25:52 enforce it, I am telling you

4:25:54 that they are screaming that they cannot enforce it, that they

4:25:58 do not want to. Our bus drivers

4:26:00 in many areas have been told that they should not try to enforce

4:26:04 it, because it becomes

4:26:06 dangerous for them to consistently look behind and try to force

4:26:09 an opt out. Plus, they don’t

4:26:10 have an opt out list every day that they get. There’s nobody

4:26:13 walking out and presenting

4:26:14 them an opt out list. The teachers are upset because the kids

4:26:22 have been given an opt out

4:26:24 and they don’t. They’re forced to wear a mask, and they don’t

4:26:28 have the opportunity to opt

4:26:30 out themselves. The administration, the administration from the

4:26:38 people that I’ve talked to, are trying

4:26:41 to mitigate this as much as possible, but you have people emailing,

4:26:45 carrying in opt

4:26:46 out forms. I mean, it’s just it’s a lot of work. And we’ve heard

4:26:50 from the employee groups

4:26:51 and everybody else that everybody’s stressed beyond belief. So

4:26:54 having more work into the

4:26:56 pipeline at a time when every single data point is low enough to

4:27:01 support it, to me it

4:27:03 doesn’t justify it. Our own union has come out and said that

4:27:09 they do not want the opt

4:27:11 out forms anymore. They’re done. They want their own people to

4:27:14 have. They want the employees

4:27:16 to be able to choose for themselves. They have said that. The

4:27:23 community has shown us

4:27:25 through the way that they act, not just the individuals that

4:27:28 come in here. I get it, both

4:27:30 sides. We have football fields, football stadiums filled,

4:27:36 basketball arenas filled. The communities

4:27:40 are all doing outside of what we are doing. And I get you, we

4:27:44 worried about people being

4:27:45 we’re worried about keeping our kids safe, but everywhere they

4:27:49 go outside of the schools

4:27:51 is not mandated. I tried to find one single place in the in the

4:27:55 county that does have

4:27:56 a mask mandate that you have to perform an opt out. I couldn’t

4:28:00 find it. So with the community

4:28:02 showing us that the for the community showing us for the

4:28:05 teachers union calling for our

4:28:06 employees to not have to mandate it for the administration that’s

4:28:10 being overworked because

4:28:11 of the opt out forms because the teachers themselves want it

4:28:14 because it’s not fair to

4:28:16 have the other kids be able to do it because the bus drivers can’t

4:28:19 enforce it because the

4:28:21 numbers are so low and because the efficacy of actually trying

4:28:26 to enforce it is difficult

4:28:28 and it’s more difficult now that the numbers are justified that

4:28:32 we told the public we were

4:28:34 moving to a certain direction. So now we keep going into the

4:28:39 seesaw. We go into the seesaw

4:28:41 of coming up with this every week and the mental health and the

4:28:44 problems. I mean our

4:28:46 parents are worn out. I heard from them, I’ve heard people that

4:28:50 are mask mandate supporters

4:28:52 call me and say I’m just worn out. I just want this thing over.

4:28:55 I mean people that were

4:28:56 like basically yelling at me before are saying that to me. And I

4:29:00 just like my thing is is

4:29:02 that Japan doesn’t have a mask mandate. Like the one place you

4:29:06 would think has one doesn’t

4:29:08 actually have one. What they do is they recommend it and their

4:29:13 entire population goes up and

4:29:15 down based on the threat level. They just do. It’s incredible

4:29:20 when you allow people

4:29:22 to make a choice on what they’re doing that they make the right

4:29:25 one. But the instant that

4:29:27 you start telling people they can’t choose they will fight you.

4:29:30 I’ve got five kids. I

4:29:32 tell them anything. They will do everything opposite than what I

4:29:35 do. And if you give them

4:29:36 the opportunity to make the right choices to make their own

4:29:40 choices that they can make

4:29:41 at a time when all the numbers I mean if this is where we are

4:29:45 right now with all of the

4:29:47 numbers at the lowest place that we can be. Is this our reality

4:29:52 for the rest of our existence?

4:29:56 It’s scary to me to think that the rest of the world the

4:29:59 community the teachers the employees

4:30:01 everybody are moving on and we’re still in here trying to create

4:30:05 something that’s creating

4:30:06 more work animosity mental health to our community. That’s my

4:30:12 opening statement. And I look forward

4:30:14 to you guys with rebuttal. Please don’t call the. Thank you. So.

4:30:19 Sorry when you said that

4:30:24 and I thought you had more paragraphs to go. I’m going to give

4:30:29 it all out now. I just quickly

4:30:32 about the music stuff. I’ll just there there was there was no

4:30:38 further study done except

4:30:40 for they did a survey of the programs. I think both of them were

4:30:46 secondary. There were some

4:30:48 post-secondary programs that they asked. They got a survey out

4:30:52 of 3000. They got you know

4:30:54 a pretty good number to almost 2800 back. Their recommendations

4:30:59 that they sent out over

4:31:00 the summer included the same things that we had in place last

4:31:04 year which were using outdoors

4:31:06 as much as possible using the indoors. If you’re indoors using

4:31:11 masks using bell covers

4:31:12 for the band like last year doing rehearsal times they increased

4:31:16 it to 50 minutes if you

4:31:18 have good and. Three air exchanges per hour and you consider

4:31:26 longer rehearsals. Physical

4:31:28 distancing they reduced it to three feet. Hygiene. You know drop

4:31:33 in your spit from your

4:31:34 trumpet on the floor those kinds of things and using face

4:31:37 shields and partitions if necessary.

4:31:40 But they specifically talked about masks and bell covers being

4:31:43 this specific material Merv

4:31:45 13 material or something. So by the way none of those things we

4:31:49 had in place at the beginning

4:31:50 of the school year except we tried to social distance and

4:31:53 several teachers. We did not

4:31:54 require masks. We have no band has used bell covers have not

4:31:57 seen a single instrumental

4:31:59 trumpet clarinet and using bell covers. We’re not doing that at

4:32:02 all. We have not released

4:32:04 reducing our rehearsal times. I do know some programs choir

4:32:07 programs that are rehearsing

4:32:08 outdoors because that’s the choir teacher but they were not

4:32:12 directed to do that. That

4:32:13 was the choir teacher’s choice. And those kids have been outside

4:32:16 in the heat rehearsing

4:32:17 the best they can. Before we had a mask mandate and then since

4:32:21 we’ve had a mask mandate. We’re

4:32:23 doing official fiscal distancing as much as the rooms can can

4:32:27 handle. You know the hygiene

4:32:31 I don’t know if they’re not allowing the spit to be dropped on

4:32:33 the carpet I can’t answer

4:32:34 that but we have not had that requirement so they’re not doing

4:32:37 that’s just program by

4:32:38 program teacher by teacher. So the data when they did that they

4:32:41 what they said was you

4:32:42 know they’ll report back over last year what worked based not

4:32:47 what worked but how many

4:32:48 of the mitigation measures did you put in place and how what

4:32:51 evidence of spread within

4:32:53 your program was there. So here’s the results and there’s some

4:32:56 mix because they’re not sure

4:32:57 even says in here you know some of it’s not clear. Did it

4:33:01 actually happen news in class

4:33:02 or did it happen in other place. They made the assumption that

4:33:04 it happened and they’re

4:33:04 not in a cafeteria or not as they were walking out or when they

4:33:07 went and spent the night

4:33:09 with a friend or whatever. It’s out of the twenty thousand

4:33:12 programs who came to return

4:33:14 to activity four and a half million students were expected to

4:33:17 participate. They did a risk

4:33:19 assessment. I’m just going to cut down to the most important

4:33:23 number. It says the overall

4:33:26 expected chance of getting COVID in a 30 minute rehearsal. Going

4:33:32 to read you the number if

4:33:33 you don’t use any of the study mitigations would be point zero

4:33:37 zero zero three seven

4:33:39 percent or one in two hundred and seventy three thousand one

4:33:42 hundred and twenty four.

4:33:43 That’s if you didn’t do any of those things. So I say all that

4:33:47 to say and by the way that

4:33:49 is a greater chance than the people who used all the mitigation

4:33:52 strategies who were like

4:33:53 at point zero zero zero zero five one or one in you know a

4:33:59 million whatever. The chances

4:34:01 are very very low. And I’ll point out again we had none of those

4:34:04 mitigation strategies

4:34:06 for choir or band this year. Our programs have done successfully

4:34:10 successful work. We

4:34:11 haven’t heard I haven’t heard of any when we were having all our

4:34:14 great outbreaks of

4:34:16 them happening more often in band or chorus classes. So I would

4:34:18 absolutely recommend against

4:34:20 making any adjustments if we have choir directors who are

4:34:22 particularly they can continue to

4:34:24 rehearse outside as they’re nervous. They have the freedom over

4:34:27 those programs. But

4:34:29 we’ve had indoor concerts we’ve had you know things going on

4:34:32 outdoor concerts successfully

4:34:34 and I would just very strongly request that we don’t make any of

4:34:37 those changes. It’s been

4:34:38 very difficult for our music programs to have to deal with what

4:34:42 they’re dealing with on

4:34:43 the mask mandate as a whole. I I’m just a strong no if I could

4:34:48 just yell no I’m getting

4:34:50 to the point where I just want to yell no to the top of my lungs.

4:34:53 I don’t want us to

4:34:54 continue in another 30 days. And I would just point out that

4:34:58 this board when it first came

4:35:00 up on August 30th and we had the policy the way it was

4:35:02 originally written and we made

4:35:04 the one the one big change that we added was to change it from

4:35:07 90 days to 30 days and we’d

4:35:09 revisit it. That 30 days was good enough. The 30 days was good

4:35:12 enough. We got to the

4:35:14 end of 30 days and we weren’t at the point we made we added the

4:35:16 50 or I don’t know if

4:35:18 the 50 was in the middle but we got to the 50. We said you know

4:35:20 that’s good enough when

4:35:21 the 50 comes we’re going to drop it and then we changed it to

4:35:24 when the 50 comes we’re going

4:35:25 to do a parental opt out. But at some point the 50 was good

4:35:29 enough just to drop it. Let

4:35:31 the superintendent just drop it. And and now it’s not good

4:35:34 enough. And I’m very very frustrated

4:35:38 that we’re having this conversation when we were almost to the

4:35:41 finish line for many of

4:35:42 us to get to Friday and it continues to not be good enough. And

4:35:46 now we’re changing it

4:35:47 again because the parental opt out you know getting down there

4:35:51 is not good enough. And

4:35:52 I I am so grateful that on here we’re allowing the staff for it

4:35:58 to be optional for them.

4:36:00 Strongly recommending. I’m so grateful that that this or the

4:36:03 recommendation that we’re

4:36:04 allowing that recommendation is for the secondary students. But

4:36:07 I think we just need to keep

4:36:09 it clear across the board from pre-k to our youngest ones who

4:36:13 are the very least likely

4:36:15 to have issues. Our parents knowing what the options are. The

4:36:23 ones who are extra afraid.

4:36:24 Have we gotten any do we have the KN95 masks available to kids.

4:36:30 Yes we do. We have KN95

4:36:32 masks available to kids. If that’s what the parent wants we will

4:36:36 provide them to them.

4:36:37 I know we had some problems with shipping they were coming from

4:36:39 Singapore and you know

4:36:40 who knows ships getting stuck everywhere. But we have them

4:36:44 available for parents who

4:36:45 are still concerned and parents are waiting for the vaccine. You

4:36:49 know we have those things.

4:36:51 What was good enough then and how that we’ve reached here we

4:36:54 keep moving the finish line

4:36:55 and I’m it’s very frustrating to me. I just ask that we would

4:36:59 just go to what we originally

4:37:01 thought was good enough which is when we get to a good place in

4:37:03 our county and an even

4:37:04 better place in our school district. And we’ve got school

4:37:08 districts all around the state

4:37:09 that are showing they didn’t do what we did and yet they’re also

4:37:11 getting to those that

4:37:12 same good place. We don’t have enough evidence to support. And

4:37:20 you know continuing to put

4:37:21 this restriction in place and I would just add that you know Mr.

4:37:24 Susan shared already

4:37:25 my my same frustration with the parental opt-out all along is

4:37:29 the inconsistency. Now I will

4:37:31 tell you yesterday when I dropped off my son I watched you know

4:37:36 kids I was curious who’s

4:37:37 going to have a paper in their hand who was going to not have a

4:37:40 mask because Monday was

4:37:41 the first day. And honestly most of the kids at that middle

4:37:44 school got off the bus and

4:37:46 they had their mask on and went to the building and I thought

4:37:47 well either they didn’t know

4:37:48 or they don’t care or they didn’t want to be the only kid

4:37:50 because they’re middle schoolers

4:37:51 and nobody wants to stand out. So I don’t know how it was the

4:37:54 second day because today

4:37:55 when I saw them they were outside and I didn’t get to see them

4:37:58 going to the building. We

4:38:00 did our our walk. The rest of the week will have yet has yet to

4:38:03 be seen. But our teachers

4:38:05 have already said we have an MOA with the teachers that say they’re

4:38:07 not going to enforce

4:38:08 it. They don’t want to have to enforce it which means it will be

4:38:11 dependent on the teacher

4:38:12 and one in one teachers which honestly it’s kind of like this

4:38:15 already to be honest in

4:38:16 one teacher’s class you have to wear them in another teacher’s

4:38:18 class you don’t have

4:38:19 to wear them because this teacher is going to enforce it and

4:38:21 this teacher is not going

4:38:22 to enforce it. And honestly we’re back to the place where we

4:38:25 were first talked about

4:38:26 the opt-out where it’s mandatory. So if you child who does not

4:38:31 have an opt-out if you

4:38:33 don’t have your mask on you’re going to get in trouble or I’m

4:38:36 going to be correcting you

4:38:37 all day long which is tiring. Well you have this student over

4:38:40 here who doesn’t have to

4:38:42 wear one at all and there there’s no discipline there. So the

4:38:46 inequity in that is also frustrating

4:38:48 and the only time I voted for a parental opt-out was because it

4:38:51 was the lesser of two evils

4:38:52 and but I’ve hated it all along and I still hate it and so I

4:38:56 would just ask that we just

4:38:58 let it go. We get to Friday and we say goodbye and we move

4:39:04 forward and and just be done with

4:39:08 it. Thank you. Anyone else wish to speak again? Mr. Susan do you

4:39:24 wish to speak again?

4:39:24 So we’re putting the teachers in a liability because of exactly

4:39:29 what she said. So imagine

4:39:31 yourself inside that classroom with that student that’s sitting

4:39:34 there and they have the opt-out

4:39:36 form but Johnny right next to him is dropping it or doing

4:39:39 whatever ADHD and now he’s being

4:39:42 forced and now he will be disciplined for it. That teacher if

4:39:46 they’re not doing it to

4:39:47 efficacy in some in some of our schools we’ve already heard from

4:39:51 principals that said that

4:39:53 it would be on their evaluations. That and then I received

4:39:56 emails from people that said

4:39:58 how could you ever not think that they should be you know reprimanded

4:40:02 on their evaluations

4:40:03 for not having a mask. The community doesn’t support it by the

4:40:08 visions and what they’re

4:40:09 by what you see on TV and what you do in the community. The

4:40:12 evidence doesn’t support it

4:40:14 in any single way. Bus drivers are out of masks half the time

4:40:18 they can’t even offer

4:40:19 them to the kid. We’re consistently moving the goalposts on our

4:40:24 community. Our community

4:40:26 thinks this is it this is going to be good we’re moving into it

4:40:28 and then we move it.

4:40:29 This is it we got the numbers here and then we move it and in

4:40:32 the end I got real scared

4:40:33 when all of a sudden I found out that we’re putting that thing

4:40:36 on AS 400 because that

4:40:37 starts to become permanent. The governors in the legislature are

4:40:41 getting ready to go

4:40:41 in and they’re getting ready to change everything that’s

4:40:44 happening. The lunchrooms just so everybody

4:40:47 is consistent. Lunchrooms have a third of the school in there

4:40:51 with no masks on sitting

4:40:53 right next to each other eating. Anybody wants to go watch it.

4:40:56 Go to Viera High School there’s

4:40:57 700 kids in a lunchroom that are sitting there looking at each

4:41:00 other with their masks off

4:41:01 in one big room talking the whole time. So for 20 30 minutes at

4:41:06 a time during the day

4:41:08 our entire student populations are in massive non-masked areas

4:41:14 with each other. And ultimately

4:41:17 where it all comes down to to me is is that if my kid if I told

4:41:23 my kid to go wear a mask

4:41:25 and I wanted them to wear it in there they’re not going to or

4:41:27 they’re going to when they

4:41:29 leave anyway. So whether you give them an opt out whether you do

4:41:33 it or not the teachers

4:41:34 are slowly going to not enforce. The administration is slowly

4:41:38 not going to and it is going to

4:41:40 become non-valid. And my fear ultimately right is that when it

4:41:47 comes time to come back up

4:41:49 because it’s coming back. This is three times it’s been in here

4:41:54 and it comes back. What’s

4:41:56 going to happen then? Are we going to go right back to it? Are

4:41:58 we just never going to come

4:42:00 out of this? And that’s my fear is is that we as individuals are

4:42:04 not doing what we should

4:42:06 and we’re forcing something on the parents and on the children

4:42:10 and creating a massive

4:42:11 mental health problem for our community. That’s it.

4:42:15 Thank you Mr. Susan. If I could just address a couple of

4:42:20 comments from you both and I you

4:42:21 know I I want to make it clear that regardless of how the vote

4:42:26 comes out tonight I I respect

4:42:28 the perspective and input from from both of you and I understand

4:42:31 your frustrations and

4:42:33 where you’re at. One thing I do want to address Mr. Susan going

4:42:38 back to your original comments

4:42:40 was the the fact that the DCA stayed the the judges comments in

4:42:48 the beginning of the the

4:42:50 policy and I just promised myself I wasn’t going to go here but

4:42:55 since you mentioned it

4:42:57 I think it’s important to note that the DCA stayed the ban on

4:43:02 the Department of Health

4:43:04 policy but the DCA has not weighed in on the legal analysis of

4:43:10 that case yet right because

4:43:13 when they filed for the appeal they they put the stay back on

4:43:18 the ban on masks but they

4:43:20 they’re the only analysis that we have on all of this at this

4:43:24 point in time is from

4:43:26 that one case because the appeals court hasn’t weighed in on any

4:43:29 of the arguments of that

4:43:31 case is that a correct interpretation Mr. Gibbs yes there’s no

4:43:36 decision yet so I don’t

4:43:38 think that we necessarily need to need to worry about the

4:43:42 language in the beginning

4:43:43 of it and that’s that’s the only reason I say that to your point

4:43:47 of becoming permanent

4:43:49 as as stated this this policy can only go to the end of November

4:43:55 unless we go into rule

4:43:57 making to amend our permanent policy so I get your concerns

4:44:03 there I absolutely do and

4:44:05 I think that you know it’s even it’s in it’s in the language of

4:44:10 the recommendation it’s

4:44:12 everywhere that this is this is it it can only go there the

4:44:18 recommendation which is

4:44:19 what the motion is on actually removes the requirement for

4:44:23 teachers who wear masks that

4:44:25 makes it strongly recommended for for all of the adults so that

4:44:28 would be our faculty

4:44:30 our staff volunteers visitors vendors I think there was some

4:44:36 misunderstanding there and

4:44:40 you know what you’re right it it is a lot of work for our

4:44:43 teachers but our current policy

4:44:45 runs through Friday and I would suggest that the majority of the

4:44:49 opt-outs have already

4:44:51 are already in process right so and your point Miss Campbell I

4:44:57 don’t love the the idea of

4:44:59 an opt-out either I commented initially that I didn’t think it

4:45:02 was going to be effective

4:45:04 that I thought it was going to make a lot of work but the

4:45:07 reality is and I go back to

4:45:08 and this is the crux of of my choice is we still do not have

4:45:15 vaccines available for our

4:45:18 five through twelve year old and something came out today and I’ve

4:45:21 not had a chance to

4:45:22 read it in depth but it looks like we are very close to FDA

4:45:28 approval on that and so

4:45:30 that that is really what’s driving my concern and and based on

4:45:35 the feedback that I’m getting

4:45:37 from parents who have little ones that say you know we we really

4:45:42 have no protection for

4:45:44 them if there is no mask requirement so the the recommendation I

4:45:48 put forward was to try

4:45:50 to find a middle ground that we could come together on that

4:45:53 would address Miss Campbell’s

4:45:55 concern about employees that would address concern about any

4:46:00 unnecessary paperwork to

4:46:03 put forward really what you know the the least restrictive given

4:46:06 the fact that things do

4:46:08 look so good and that we are so close to a vaccine for our

4:46:12 youngest ones and so I like

4:46:15 I said I I respect your stances and and I I’m not looking to to

4:46:22 argue but and at the

4:46:24 end of the day I you know will will walk away however it comes

4:46:28 out and I will have the utmost

4:46:30 respect for you all so I just think that’s important to the

4:46:33 state so any additional discussion

4:46:36 does that call the question was thinking all right these votes I

4:46:54 think I’m gonna have to

4:47:06 I had to refresh mine oh did you approve my travel can you tell

4:47:19 me that yeah mine’s

4:47:21 still stuck on this one yeah mine’s even worse Miss Escobar can

4:47:26 you take a voice vote for

4:47:27 us all in favor please signify by saying aye aye aye those

4:47:32 opposed please indicate by saying

4:47:34 nay nay yeah mr. Susan dr. Mullins just so that the parents in

4:47:48 the community understand

4:47:49 is there a way to explain what’s happening because you know they

4:47:54 mean like I think right

4:47:55 now everybody was are we gonna wear masks aren’t we gonna wear

4:47:59 masks but now completely

4:48:00 secondary starting what next Monday will not be required to

4:48:05 bring an opt-out or anything

4:48:07 right if you could just kind of just explain that for the people

4:48:09 that are on here and then

4:48:11 maybe send out some kind of information tomorrow that’s all yes

4:48:17 sir we’ll work on communications

4:48:18 as ASAP to our community so they’re aware of exactly what the

4:48:22 standing is so the employees

4:48:24 don’t will be required to wear masks until Friday and then

4:48:27 coming back Monday they’ll

4:48:29 be in the clear is that what it is the mask policy the current

4:48:32 mask policy is in place

4:48:33 through Friday the close of business Friday when employees

4:48:37 return on Monday masks will

4:48:39 be optional for all employees students in 7 through 12th grade

4:48:45 will be strongly recommended

4:48:48 and students in elementary school will still require a parental

4:48:54 opt-out thank you yeah

4:48:58 absolutely thank you Mr. Susan for that clarification I’ll go

4:49:01 ahead and then also make the board

4:49:04 aware by the end of the week I will review the other remaining

4:49:07 mitigation strategies

4:49:09 and provide schools and an update as well as the board by the

4:49:13 end of the week what the

4:49:15 update will be for the following week thank you Dr. Mullen all

4:49:21 right if I’m tracking correctly

4:49:23 we are back on item g39 Dr. Mullen’s the next action item is g39

4:49:32 on department school initiated

4:49:34 agreement and board members you may want to try to refresh your

4:49:37 screen if you were hung

4:49:39 up on the travel item while we what are the wishes of the board

4:49:42 moved to approve moved

4:49:43 by Mr. Susan seconded by Ms. Campbell is there any discussion

4:50:01 please vote

4:50:04 the motion passes 5-0 Dr. Mullen’s item g40 is on procurement

4:50:23 solicitation one of the

4:50:24 wishes of the board moved to approve moved by Mr. Susan seconded

4:50:28 by Ms. Campbell is there

4:50:29 any discussion please vote

4:50:55 the motion passes 5-0 Dr. Mullen’s item g41 is to approve the

4:51:03 naming of the adult and

4:51:05 community education manufacturing building to the johnny fred bailey

4:51:09 senior manufacturing

4:51:11 building what are the wishes of the board moved to approve moved

4:51:15 by Mr. Susan seconded

4:51:16 by Ms. Campbell is there any discussion just hate that all the

4:51:19 turmoil of the evening has

4:51:21 diminished every other good things but this was exciting I hope

4:51:24 you guys read the bio

4:51:25 of the gentleman I haven’t gotten to meet him sounds like

4:51:27 someone needed me but I’m

4:51:28 very pleased with the name that was chosen for this building yes

4:51:32 thank you Ms. Campbell

4:51:34 for that recognition on this particular item I know we had a

4:51:36 couple of community supporters

4:51:38 that came earlier excuse me in support of the item and have have

4:51:44 since left so but certainly

4:51:46 a lot of support for this this particular naming so I would echo

4:51:52 Mr. Bailey has been

4:51:53 a long-standing member the community and made quite frankly

4:51:56 generations of investments in

4:51:58 our and our kids across the community and it’s a very worthy

4:52:02 recommendation and appreciate

4:52:03 the board support absolutely any additional discussion hearing

4:52:12 none please vote the motion

4:52:19 passes five zero congratulations Mr. Bailey yeah yeah put it out

4:52:37 there all right Dr. Mullins

4:52:40 item g42 is to hear public comments on board policy five one one

4:52:44 two followed by board

4:52:45 action is there anyone present who wishes to make comments

4:52:48 regarding the revisions to

4:52:49 board policy five one one two I’ll do it okay is there anyone

4:52:57 present who wishes to make

4:53:00 comments regarding the revisions to board policy five one one

4:53:12 two I was just reading

4:53:13 that revisions to number five dash one one two entrance

4:53:17 requirements packet do you have

4:53:19 a copy of the packet we can see on mine okay my question is is

4:53:25 it gonna cost us anything

4:53:27 and who is it benefiting so it’s not a Q&A session Karen it’s

4:53:33 just for you to make public

4:53:35 comment on the policy so all right is there anyone else present

4:53:50 who wishes to make comments

4:53:51 regarding the revisions to board policy five one one two all

4:53:55 right what are the wishes

4:53:57 the board moved by Mr. Susan seconded by Miss Campbell is there

4:54:02 any discussion hearing none

4:54:03 please vote

4:54:23 the motion passes five zero Dr. Mullin our last action item is g43

4:54:31 on the two thousand

4:54:32 twenty one two thousand twenty two student progression plan for

4:54:36 Brevard public schools

4:54:37 you are being asked to authorize the superintendent to advertise

4:54:41 for a public hearing on the plan

4:54:42 what are the wishes of the board move to approve move by Mr.

4:54:45 Susan seconded by Miss Campbell

4:54:47 is there any discussion hearing none please vote the motion

4:55:15 passes five zero

4:55:15 we will move on to the information agenda which includes items

4:55:19 for board review and

4:55:20 may be brought back for action at a subsequent meeting no action

4:55:23 will be taken on these items

4:55:24 tonight Dr. Mullins there are two items under the information

4:55:28 category does any member wish

4:55:30 to discuss either of these information items all right that then

4:55:38 is going to bring us to

4:55:40 board discussion Mr. Susan you had a request for substitute

4:55:43 vacant teaching position discussion

4:55:45 yes real quick I just wanted to say kudos goes out to the ESF

4:55:49 staff for going out and

4:55:50 covering all of our schools many people don’t know this but

4:55:54 because of the lack of substitutes

4:55:56 and vacant positions our ESF staff to include superintendent

4:56:00 went out and covered into the

4:56:02 schools so when this started happening I started looking back

4:56:05 over the last six eight months

4:56:06 and I realized that you know when I substitute I feel the school

4:56:12 different than when I visited

4:56:14 I don’t know if you guys feel that way but it’s just different

4:56:16 when they close the door

4:56:17 here with the kids and you can have those communications so what

4:56:20 I would like to do

4:56:21 is move forward with us with you maybe discuss it in a board

4:56:26 workshop as one item just discussion

4:56:29 about possibly making anybody who’s not in the schools that may

4:56:33 be you know above the

4:56:34 teacher grade maybe in the ESF everybody just substitute one day

4:56:38 and the reason is is that

4:56:40 many of the individuals that that we have including myself I was

4:56:44 a teacher many years

4:56:45 ago and I I lost touch with the classroom I mean I was really

4:56:49 into it I mean I was there

4:56:51 but now when I get in there I substitute I could feel it but I

4:56:54 it’s not the same so what

4:56:55 I would like to do is look into a possible policy to have more

4:57:00 involvement with our staff

4:57:02 into the schools not so much for filling the subs I mean that’s

4:57:05 going to happen but just

4:57:06 to get that feeling that we get when we when we substitute in

4:57:09 there and feel it and even

4:57:11 if it’s just one day it gives them the perspective of what our

4:57:14 teachers are dealing with because

4:57:16 every year is different that’s it so I just wanted to bring that

4:57:19 up and put it in towards

4:57:20 a discussion in the future that’s it miss oscar bark could you

4:57:24 do me a favor and make

4:57:25 a note to add that to our future board off-site conversations

4:57:31 there we go we got one coming

4:57:33 up we just approved it today yep miss campbell did you want to

4:57:40 request that mr gibbs move

4:57:41 forward with amending the public comment policy on that video

4:57:45 issue yes like if we can I know

4:57:51 I don’t I can’t remember what we have on the agenda for our november

4:57:54 workshop day but there’s

4:57:56 room to squeeze that in I don’t think all right I’ll get with my

4:58:04 paralegal any board

4:58:05 member opposed no okay and mr gibbs you’re clear on what the

4:58:09 area of concern is that

4:58:10 needs to be amended yep okay I have another okay that’s all

4:58:15 right to see what happened

4:58:17 with the mask mandate first go right ahead um so I’ve gotten

4:58:21 some feedback I’m sorry

4:58:22 there are like little bugs crawling out over there’s been some

4:58:31 angst about the opt-out

4:58:35 policy and I asked mr gibbs if he wrote and he said no it was

4:58:38 just understanding it was

4:58:39 kind of a conglomeration of what some other districts have done

4:58:42 so I you you may have

4:58:43 gotten I think there was at least one email that came to all of

4:58:45 us I’ve gotten a few to

4:58:46 me questions I’ve seen some feedback on social media concerns

4:58:50 about the language of the opt-out

4:58:53 form two two problems one has to do with liability and the other

4:58:59 one has to do with acknowledging

4:59:02 that the board can tighten or loosen restrictions as needed so I

4:59:10 would just put you know I signed

4:59:13 the form I said I gave it to my kids I said and put it in the

4:59:16 mask basket take it to opt-out

4:59:18 or take the mask whatever you choose take both whatever you

4:59:22 choose but you know some

4:59:24 people have concerns the liability part to my understanding I

4:59:27 don’t remember if this

4:59:28 is exact statute mr gibbs you can help fill me in there was a

4:59:32 the in the legislature this

4:59:34 spring they passed a bill that had to do with covid liability

4:59:40 for schools for and even for

4:59:42 hospitals and things like that there was another bill so that if

4:59:47 someone gets covid in a business

4:59:50 or a school or whatever who’s taking reasonable precautions then

4:59:54 you can’t sue because you

4:59:56 got covid in that place so this is that statute correct mr gibbs

5:00:00 yeah 76838 okay so when people

5:00:03 I think one of the current concerns about that piece of it was

5:00:06 that if they signed this

5:00:07 they were saying that they they were losing all their rights to

5:00:12 sue the school board for

5:00:13 because they didn’t want a mask mandate and I don’t think that

5:00:16 has anything to do with

5:00:17 no that that’s just referring to the statute that’s what the

5:00:20 statute does if the school

5:00:21 district is materially compliant with a recommendation of a

5:00:24 federal or state health agency we are

5:00:27 immune from lawsuit unless certain requirements are met right so

5:00:30 the kind of people who would

5:00:32 be signing an opt-out wouldn’t really be concerned with that

5:00:36 probably so then the first part

5:00:39 is also bothersome for some about the school board maybe tighten

5:00:42 or loosen restrictions

5:00:44 as needed I mean I guess technically we did that tonight by loosening

5:00:47 before the end of

5:00:48 the 90 days we could come back in our November I don’t know why

5:00:51 we do this but in November

5:00:52 17th and tighten it back up but at some point the 90 days ends

5:00:59 so you know there’s been

5:01:01 people saying I crossed out the parts I didn’t like and signed

5:01:04 it or I sent in my own form

5:01:05 I’m not really sure what’s happening and this McDougall’s asking

5:01:08 about how this is being

5:01:09 handled but I you know if it had been me and nobody asked could

5:01:15 have just left it to my

5:01:17 child blank will opt out from wearing a mask parent signature

5:01:21 and a date but I just wanted

5:01:23 to clarify that because I don’t you can understand it you don’t

5:01:28 have to agree with it and I just

5:01:30 tell people just sign it send the form you do what’s right for

5:01:32 your family if you don’t

5:01:33 feel like sign it don’t sign it but if you’re just saying I

5:01:37 understand that they will continue

5:01:39 to review I don’t have a problem with it but some people may but

5:01:42 it doesn’t really it’s

5:01:43 not really making very much of a difference and if someone

5:01:48 crossed it out I don’t really

5:01:49 know a principal that’s gonna say no you crossed out that one

5:01:51 sentence so I’m not encouraging

5:01:53 people to cross it out I’m just saying you know I just feel like

5:01:56 we created a bigger

5:01:57 problem with the way this was written is there any movement into

5:02:03 changing and just making

5:02:06 it a little simpler not that we make everybody do it over again

5:02:10 but since now we’re gonna

5:02:12 need this for another month for our elementary school students

5:02:15 well that’s what I would say

5:02:22 but people are still having a problem with sign it and send it

5:02:28 and so like I said cross

5:02:29 out the words you don’t like highlight the words you like the

5:02:32 best you know sign it send

5:02:33 it in but I did want to clarify the legal legalities of that

5:02:38 part you’re not signing

5:02:39 that that’s already been established yes it’s just a reference

5:02:42 to the Florida statute granting

5:02:44 immunity so there’s nothing in there that we’re saying you were

5:02:48 waiving it it’s just

5:02:49 a reiteration and letting people know what Florida statute is

5:02:55 right thank you madam chair

5:02:57 just for clarification I take responsibility for the form I

5:03:00 would I directed staff to put

5:03:01 a form together that was reflective of what other districts had

5:03:05 used the language that’s

5:03:06 there is reflective of other districts albeit not necessarily on

5:03:10 the form but in other locations

5:03:12 across the district Mr. Gibbs please correct me if I’m wrong but

5:03:17 I believe staff did go

5:03:18 through you did review the form although you didn’t necessarily

5:03:22 write the form yes I have

5:03:23 no issues with the form okay thank you and that’s that’s fine

5:03:27 thank you thank you and

5:03:29 I’m a big fan I’m a big fan of not reinventing the wheel so I

5:03:34 appreciate that you there goes

5:03:37 another bug sorry it’s all coming me so but again you know if

5:03:44 parents are concerned you’re

5:03:47 not actually saying you’re willing for them to be further

5:03:51 restricted I mean it’s it’s

5:03:53 just an acknowledgement or you understand that so I just

5:03:56 encourage people if you want

5:03:58 to use the opt-out to go ahead and sign it because it’s it’s

5:04:00 really not going to make

5:04:01 one difference whether you cross it out or sign it as is but you

5:04:04 do need to have a form

5:04:05 if you’re going to opt out and it’s not like I’m not getting

5:04:10 like dozens and dozens I’ve

5:04:11 just seen a handful and I just wanted to address what that

5:04:17 actually means I appreciate you

5:04:20 clarifying that I have had a couple of inquiries as well so I

5:04:24 think that’s definitely important

5:04:26 information Dr. Mullins do you have anything more I do if the

5:04:31 board doesn’t have any other

5:04:32 closing items and it’ll be a good one and I think you’ll

5:04:34 appreciate hearing it quite

5:04:36 frankly and so will the Union and our principals credit to Dr.

5:04:44 Thede and staff were have been

5:04:46 working on actually finding ways to incentivize our subs to

5:04:50 cover what we anticipate are soon

5:04:53 to be what I’m calling high demand sub days so we’re we are

5:04:59 instituting a high demand

5:05:02 premium pay supplement for our substitutes who commit to subbing

5:05:08 on a Friday November

5:05:10 12th and or Monday and Tuesday November 22nd and 23rd that’s the

5:05:18 Friday after Veterans

5:05:20 Day we have we are closed our schools are closed for Veterans

5:05:25 Day on November 11th $50

5:05:28 for every sub that covers those days in addition to the regular

5:05:33 daily rate obviously which

5:05:35 actually gets I think even the lowest daily rate paid sub well

5:05:41 above the $15 an hour so

5:05:44 it’s not where all the distance we want to go but it’s

5:05:48 definitely a big step in the right

5:05:50 direction and Mr. Savage I’m disappointed that Mr. Colucci didn’t

5:05:54 have the fortitude

5:05:55 to stay there a whole evening to hear the great announcement but

5:05:59 I know that you will

5:06:00 pass it along just kidding Anthony had to give you a hard time

5:06:05 past his bedtime but

5:06:07 if the Union would help us get that information out and

5:06:10 communicate that we’re gonna hit the

5:06:12 highways and the byways and encourage our our subs to help us

5:06:16 out on those days so that

5:06:18 we ensure we’ve got our schools covered because those are

5:06:21 historically higher teacher vacancy

5:06:24 days that’s phenomenal news dr. Mullins thank you and thank you

5:06:27 dr. Fennion team for working

5:06:29 on that to make it happen we appreciate it immensely anyone have

5:06:33 anything else all right

5:06:35 hearing no for the business this meeting is adjourned have a

5:06:37 great night

5:06:54 you