Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL

2022-07-28 - School Board Work Session

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11:13 (gavel bangs)

11:14 - Good afternoon.

11:14 The July 28th, 2022 board work session is now in order.

11:18 Call roll call, please.

11:20 - Ms. Belford.

11:21 - Present.

11:22 - Ms. Campbell.

11:22 - Present.

11:23 - Ms. Dinkins.

11:24 - Present.

11:25 - Ms. McDougall.

11:27 Mr. Susan.

11:29 - Present.

11:31 - And Ms. McDougall will be joining us as she can get here.

11:34 She’s running slightly behind.

11:36 Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

11:41 - Pledge of Allegiance to the flag

11:44 of the United States of America

11:46 and to the Republic for which it stands,

11:48 one Nation under God, indivisible,

11:51 with liberty and justice for all.

11:56 - All right.

11:57 During today’s work session,

11:57 we’ll be receiving an assessments update,

11:59 which will be presented by Dr. Stephanie Sullivan,

12:01 Assistant Superintendent of Secondary Leading and Learning

12:04 and Nada Francis, Director of Accountability,

12:06 Testing and Evaluation.

12:08 Dr. Sullivan and Ms. Francis.

12:11 - Good afternoon, board members, Dr. Mollins.

12:13 Thank you for giving us the time today

12:15 to give you a relatively brief, but very important update

12:20 on how the assessment process in the state of Florida

12:23 has changed and what that will look like

12:25 in Brevard Public Schools.

12:27 That is the extent of my part of the presenting.

12:30 I am fortunate to be standing

12:33 next to our director, Nada Francis.

12:36 And as you all know, we’re really lucky

12:39 in Brevard Public Schools to have an expert like Nada.

12:42 She is currently the past president

12:44 of the Florida Association of Testing Administrators.

12:47 And she is often in the frontline meetings

12:49 with the staff at the Department of Education.

12:52 So we always have a little extra bit of confidence

12:56 in the knowledge that Nada shares.

12:58 But I do wanna caution,

12:59 there is a great deal that is still unknown.

13:01 And so each and every day leading up to today,

13:04 we keep double checking,

13:05 is there anything else been codified?

13:07 So you may have questions,

13:09 and we will make sure we track those questions

13:12 that we don’t have an answer to yet.

13:14 So as the DOE releases additional information,

13:17 we’ll follow up with you with relevant.

13:19 So at this point, I’m gonna turn it over

13:20 to our true expert in assessment

13:23 and accountability, Nada Francis.

13:26 - Good afternoon, members of the board, Dr. Mullins.

13:30 Again, thank you for the opportunity.

13:32 I wanna echo what Dr. Sullivan just said.

13:35 And there is a lot of unknown, a lot of unknown.

13:39 So the new assessment is called

13:42 the Florida Assessment for Student Thinking.

13:47 And I provided you with the statutory information.

13:51 It’s going to be administered three times a year.

13:54 The window, you’ll notice that the first line is the window

13:59 for the three PM one, PM two, and PM three,

14:03 they’re calling it FAST.

14:05 So it’s progress monitoring is what PM stands for.

14:08 And the entire window is 8/15 to September 30th.

14:13 However, for the younger students,

14:15 we have to administer within the first 30 days.

14:20 Having said that, when we looked at the calendar,

14:23 Mrs. Klein and I sat down and decided that it would be best

14:27 if we pushed it to September, giving the young,

14:30 the students, the VPK kids and the kindergarten students

14:33 to come in and get acclimated with their teachers

14:36 and learn procedures and processes

14:38 before we started with the assessment.

14:40 For secondary, we had to use the,

14:43 we have to test them immediately,

14:46 only because the retake window for students in the fall

14:51 starts in September.

14:52 So that’s the why as to why those are different.

14:56 The January, in the second window, the PM two window,

15:01 we’re doing everyone in January.

15:04 And the reason for that is we have the holidays November,

15:07 holidays in December, retakes again

15:09 for the high schools in November.

15:12 And so we decided that it would be best to do it in January.

15:17 And then of course, PM three is in the month of May to January

15:22 and June 2nd and hours ends on the 26th,

15:26 because of course that’s the last day

15:28 the students are here with us.

15:31 So I started this PowerPoint with thinking of

15:33 what are the things that we don’t know?

15:36 We don’t know the length of the question,

15:38 how many questions it’s gonna be.

15:41 We don’t know the timing,

15:42 although there are rumors out there that it’s 30 minutes,

15:45 40 minutes, a class period.

15:47 I have no certain time to be able to provide you

15:50 with that information today.

15:52 Writing, we are unsure how writing will count

15:56 for school grade in 2024,

15:59 and how PM one, two and three will be reported.

16:04 Those are the things that I can give you some insight into

16:07 throughout the PowerPoint,

16:09 but those are things that we do not know

16:11 to be 100% certain.

16:15 So the VPK two administration,

16:20 the VPK and kindergarten is based

16:25 on the Florida early learning and development standards,

16:29 and K one, I’m sorry, grades one and two

16:32 is based on the best standard.

16:35 The test will be administered in one session,

16:39 and the state is recommending

16:41 that we do one subject in one day.

16:43 We have made a decision that it’s in the best interest

16:46 of the children to continue what we’ve done in the past,

16:49 that children only take one subject in one day.

16:53 VPK two students are required to use headphones.

17:00 Those are the only ones that will need the headphones,

17:02 and it is for the math section

17:04 that they will need those headphones.

17:08 Three through 10 are for ELA,

17:12 and grades three through eight

17:13 will take the math assessment,

17:15 and again, it’s aligned to the best standards.

17:19 The assessment is computer adaptive,

17:22 so because it is computer adaptive,

17:25 the questions will get progressively

17:27 more difficult or easier.

17:29 So let’s say that a student is answering

17:32 all the high questions, it’ll continue on that trend.

17:36 If they answer three incorrect questions,

17:38 then it’ll bring them, bump them down to the next level

17:41 until they finally level out.

17:44 The one thing that is really, really important in the slide

17:47 is what is in red.

17:50 Come PM one, the students would be administered

17:53 the test that has the blueprints for the full grade level.

17:58 What does that mean?

17:59 That means that they will be exposed

18:01 to all the standards in PM one.

18:04 So the expectation is that they’re not going

18:07 to perform well, we are not expecting the students to,

18:11 if they level it out, they get a level three

18:14 or anything like that.

18:15 It is just for information purposes,

18:17 so it’s very important that the parents,

18:20 and when I did the, excuse me,

18:24 when I did the training with the principals,

18:26 that’s one of the things that I requested

18:29 is that the parents are aware,

18:30 that the students are aware that it’s just for information.

18:34 So yes, you’re going to be exposed to all the standards,

18:37 but it’s not punitive, it is just for information.

18:40 PM one and two are for information purposes only.

18:45 If they provide us with the information, the data

18:48 that the state is saying we’re going to be able to get,

18:51 it’ll be a great tool because the teachers

18:53 will then be able to utilize what they’ve gleaned

18:56 from PM one to then change the outcome for PM two,

19:01 and then finally change the outcome for PM three,

19:04 when it works.

19:05 Remember that this is a standard setting year,

19:08 and so when it’s a standard setting year,

19:12 everything that is done, the state will tweak,

19:14 and then they will analyze all of the data

19:17 before they scale score, they provide us

19:19 with scale scores or anything.

19:21 However, the state has said, as of yesterday,

19:24 that they will provide us with a scale score and a level.

19:28 What the request was, then not only do we get

19:31 the scale score and a level,

19:33 we would like some other information that can be utilized

19:37 to provide teachers with, so that they can guide

19:40 their students, such as the standard,

19:42 the strand information would be ideal.

19:46 The standard would be perfect,

19:47 however, they’re working on that.

19:50 Whether it will come to fruition or not,

19:51 but I’m hoping that it will.

19:57 Writing, as the state calls it,

20:00 has been decoupled from the reading.

20:02 So the writing will no longer be part of the reading,

20:06 so the reading will be a standalone test,

20:08 and the writing will be a standalone test.

20:10 It used to be like that years ago, now the biggest questions

20:14 are how is it going to count for school grade in 2024?

20:18 That all has to be legislated, so we’re not sure.

20:21 What I can talk to is what used to happen

20:24 when we had writing before that writing counted

20:27 for 100 points, so for a junior, senior high school

20:30 that it’s 1100 points, it will be 1200 points,

20:33 ‘cause it has one additional component.

20:36 For 22-23, the writing will be administered as a field test,

20:41 and the state will choose the schools that will field test,

20:45 not only from Brevard, but from all over the,

20:47 from the other districts also.

20:52 And we never get a score when it’s a field test.

20:58 Three through 10 will be administered in one day.

21:03 Again, PM1 and PM2 is for informational purposes only.

21:08 PM3 is the one that’s summative.

21:11 PM3 will be the one that will be utilized in 23-24

21:15 when we go back to the accountability system.

21:17 Next year, we will not have a school grade.

21:20 When they do provide us the information

21:22 with the school grade, it’ll just be

21:23 for informational purposes, and typically,

21:26 we get it November, December timeline,

21:29 and it will not have learning gains

21:31 because we don’t have two years’ worth of data.

21:33 So in 24-25, we will have, we should have,

21:38 all of the cut scores will be set,

21:39 and we will have a real school grade.

21:44 Again, this talks about the being computer adaptive.

21:49 Remote testing, the reason that I wanted

21:51 to add it to the slides, VPK1-2 cannot do the remote testing,

21:57 but remote testing is great for our hospital,

22:00 home-bound students.

22:01 Brevard Virtual, I’m doing a special training

22:04 with their testing coordinator

22:06 because they’re going to offer it for PM1 and two

22:09 so that the kids can stay at home and take the test.

22:13 There’s a letter that has to go home.

22:14 The parents must sign because they have

22:17 to have the computer on, so they have to sign the letter.

22:20 I’m gonna, I have it written.

22:22 I need to send it to Dr. Sullivan

22:24 and Mrs. Klein for approval, but it’s a good thing

22:29 for the hospital home-bound kids.

22:32 That way, we don’t have to worry about sending somebody

22:34 to the home and exposing the children.

22:39 Science has not changed.

22:42 So science grade five will be a two-day test, paper-based.

22:47 Grade eight is just one day, but it’s still paper-based,

22:51 and the EOC and retake administration still remain the same.

22:59 And they’re still developing all of the procedures

23:01 for the remote testing.

23:03 And I sat through a webinar yesterday,

23:06 and they made it seem very simple,

23:08 but when I looked at what they sent us was not,

23:11 it didn’t, it wasn’t exactly what I was anticipating.

23:15 So there’s an infrastructure that needs to be done at home.

23:18 There’s a lot of things that the parents will,

23:20 we will have to work with the parents

23:22 for this remote testing.

23:26 So this just talks about the FAST assessment

23:30 is definitely going to be shorter.

23:32 And how much shorter?

23:33 We have no idea.

23:35 We know that it is going to be administered in one day,

23:38 which is great news.

23:40 The rumors are there’s somewhere between 36 and 40 questions

23:45 and that the questions will come up and it’ll time out.

23:48 That’s what I heard yesterday, but it’s not in writing.

23:51 That’s why it’s not in your PowerPoint.

23:52 Until I get it in writing,

23:54 I don’t like to put it in PowerPoint.

23:56 The last bullet talks about students,

23:59 and we’ve done this in Brevard,

24:01 but the state wanted to emphasize this.

24:03 So I thought it would, I needed to share it with you.

24:06 The students that are, if you have a fifth grade student

24:09 who’s taking sixth grade math classes,

24:12 we’ve always allowed them to take the FSA sixth grade.

24:16 If you have a sixth grade student who’s taking algebra,

24:19 we’ve always allowed them to test up.

24:21 The state always has allowed us to test up.

24:24 What they cannot do is test down.

24:26 So if you’re a third grade student, I’m sorry,

24:30 a fourth grade students,

24:31 you cannot take the third grade test,

24:33 but you can certainly take the fourth grade test

24:35 if that’s where your instruction is.

24:41 So this talks about the FSA, ELA and algebra retake.

24:47 Notice how it says fall and spring,

24:51 and that’s all the information I have.

24:53 I’m not even going to attempt to know the why

24:56 as to why it’s not being offered in the summer.

24:59 What I think, I can tell you what I think.

25:02 And what I think is that the new algebra

25:05 that’s aligned to the best standards

25:07 will replace the old algebra retake.

25:11 But until again, until we see it in writing,

25:13 I’m not going to put it.

25:14 That’s what we know to be true today

25:16 is that FSA, ELA will be administered in the fall

25:20 and the algebra retake.

25:22 And that’s for students

25:23 who didn’t meet the graduation requirement

25:25 and have, or have taken the ELA several times,

25:29 and they will sit for the test again in the fall

25:31 and algebra, the same thing holds true.

25:33 If they didn’t pass the algebra requirement,

25:35 they will take the assessment.

25:38 Starting in the winter,

25:40 algebra and geometry will be aligned to the best standards.

25:44 So of course, as you’ll see it,

25:45 it says winter, spring and summer,

25:48 making me guess that the algebra will,

25:52 the best algebra will replace the algebra retake.

25:57 And the nomenclature is a little bit unclear.

26:00 They’re calling it FAST, they call them EOCs,

26:03 they call them best EOCs.

26:05 So I’ve referred to all of the names that I’ve heard.

26:07 I’m hoping that the nomenclature will be closer aligned

26:12 when we go to the, when I go to the August meeting.

26:17 Biology, civics and US history

26:20 will continue to be administered

26:22 in the fall, spring and summer.

26:24 There is no, at this moment,

26:28 they are going to continue to be the same assessments

26:31 that we’ve always administered.

26:32 And again, we talked about the science five and eight.

26:39 Sample test materials will be available online

26:42 and the Department of Education is releasing some items

26:47 that I’ve sent out to the resource, I’m sorry,

26:49 to the directors so they can disperse the information

26:52 to the resource teachers, so then the resource teachers

26:54 can start working with our teachers.

26:56 I also shared it with the assistant principals this week

27:00 and I shared it with the curriculum contacts just today

27:04 so that everybody has all of the particulars

27:06 that the state is putting out,

27:08 such as what standards are going to be tested,

27:10 et cetera, et cetera.

27:12 And what I have noticed is that they put out

27:16 several renditions.

27:18 So I just keep saying please remember

27:20 that use the last one that I’ve sent out.

27:25 So the reason that I wanted to make sure

27:27 that this was out for everyone to see,

27:30 all of the FAST assessments will be online.

27:33 And that includes the manual that we normally provide

27:37 for the testing coordinators and for the teachers

27:40 to administer the assessment.

27:42 There’s good news to this and that’s what I said

27:44 to the curriculum contacts today

27:45 and to the testing coordinators, GSPs,

27:48 because that provides us the opportunity

27:51 to give the teachers exactly what they need

27:54 to make those students have a good assessment.

27:58 So there will be no any confusion as to

28:01 if I’m administering grade seven

28:03 or am I administering algebra

28:05 and it just helps everyone stay on the same page.

28:08 So although it will be cumbersome

28:10 for the first administration, second administration,

28:13 I think overall we’ll see some positives on that.

28:18 The website is not available.

28:22 They did update the assessment

28:25 where we go to test the students

28:28 but not all of the resources are there.

28:34 So as I said, this is a standard setting year

28:37 and what that means is when the students take the assessment

28:40 they will do the analysis and then it goes

28:44 to the Senate and to the House.

28:47 Then the commissioner presents the achievement levels

28:51 to the State Board of Education and once it’s voted on

28:54 then we have the achievement levels and the scale scores

28:58 is what they’re gonna provide us with right now

29:00 is a linked score to FSA.

29:03 So for PM1, PM2 and allegedly PM3

29:09 will be getting those linked scores back to FSA.

29:14 And starting in 23, 24, all the assessment results

29:19 for PM3 will be released on 531.

29:25 So the graduation requirements for the rising seniors

29:30 which is your ninth grade class of 2019, 2020

29:34 and your rising juniors which is your class of 2020, 2021,

29:38 they will still be held to the current standards.

29:42 So whatever the standards are today

29:46 to meet the concordance score

29:48 that’s what they will have to meet.

29:52 The sophomores are a little bit different

29:55 because normally they’re the ones who are able to

29:58 in the past they’ve been able to either meet the concordancy

30:02 of what’s currently in law and what comes new.

30:09 So they’ll have the dual opportunities

30:11 but that’s your 10th graders.

30:12 Ninth graders are not that impacted

30:14 because they will take it in 23, 24

30:17 which we’ve already established the standards

30:20 but it’s the 10th graders that are going to be

30:24 able to use the dual standards.

30:26 As of today that’s what the state has said.

30:29 Is it gonna come to fruition?

30:30 I’m not sure because again everything has to be legislated.

30:37 And that is all that I have for you today.

30:42 - I wanna underscore that last slide from Ms. Francis

30:46 because as information was coming

30:48 from the DOE last year regarding testing

30:51 it created a lot of confusion for our current students.

30:54 So just wanna underscore again our class of 23 students

30:59 and our class of 24 students

31:02 still have the current graduation requirements

31:05 including all the assessment requirements.

31:08 And I also wanna add this year is the start

31:11 of the new higher scores for concordancy.

31:14 You may recall they were supposed to be raised last year

31:17 they delayed those a year.

31:18 So this year does have a higher score

31:21 for concordancy for our graduates.

31:25 Yeah and the elimination of PERT with those changes

31:28 we’ve been anticipating for a few years.

31:30 And so one thing that we think is really important

31:33 is that Brevard Public Schools has always

31:36 used progress monitoring.

31:38 And so the notion of progress monitoring our children

31:41 in the fall and in the winter is something

31:44 that we are aligned with, we’re comfortable with

31:46 and we’re prepared for.

31:48 And quite frankly we’re encouraged that it will be aligned

31:52 to the summative assessment in the spring.

31:56 But not a lot of visible differences

31:59 for our families and students when it comes to testing.

32:03 - I’ll just start with that that you just talked about

32:08 and that we have already been doing the progress monitoring.

32:13 For our secondary schools, I did ask Ms. Klein

32:15 this question about the elementary ‘cause you know

32:17 we’re using iReady, the state didn’t pick iReady,

32:19 they could have, so what are we gonna do?

32:20 And she said we’re gonna hold on to that

32:21 because of the toolbox and the resources for teachers

32:25 while we may not be using that for progress monitoring.

32:26 But what about secondary ‘cause we’re using maps for math

32:29 and I can’t remember the reading thing.

32:33 But what are we doing with that and do we have contracts

32:37 that we can get out of or how is that gonna look?

32:40 - We’ve reduced some contracts.

32:42 So for math, the state progress monitoring

32:46 is related to through eighth grade only.

32:49 And eighth grade math meaning children in that course.

32:52 And so it’s essentially FAS is essentially replacing FAS,

32:58 I mean FSA, not EOCs.

33:01 And so there is no progress monitoring

33:03 for algebra and geometry.

33:04 So we are continuing our contracts

33:06 to progress monitor algebra and geometry.

33:09 Our seventh and eighth grade students

33:11 will use the FAS progress monitoring.

33:13 For reading, our students use Read 180.

33:16 And with our previous contract, we used Read 180

33:20 for all students who needed progress monitoring.

33:23 But it is the curriculum tool for our students

33:26 in intensive reading.

33:28 So we will no longer use read 180 for the whole school.

33:32 required progress monitoring.

33:34 But classrooms will still use the various assessments

33:38 as a tool in the curriculum planning

33:41 like they would in a math class when you take a math test.

33:44 So similar concepts.

33:46 So the students in the intensive reading courses

33:48 will continue to use Read 180 and the whole toolkit.

33:51 It will no longer serve as our testing platform for students

33:55 that are not in Read 180.

33:57 So kind of like we used to do with Reading Plus back,

34:00 it was just mainly– it was used in those classrooms.

34:03 Correct.

34:04 Read 180 is a more complete curriculum package

34:06 than we’ve used before them.

34:10 Well, I mean, so just making sure I got–

34:17 so there will be no writing for this coming year

34:21 unless a school gets selected randomly

34:24 by the state as a field test, correct?

34:29 That is correct.

34:30 OK.

34:31 But it could be a district.

34:32 So no, it’ll be random by–

34:35 the schools will be selected randomly,

34:38 and it won’t be the whole district.

34:39 It’ll be– but it’ll be elementary, middle school.

34:42 It could be some of our charter schools.

34:44 It could be the Brevard virtual.

34:47 But it’ll be– in the past, it’s been like 25 schools,

34:51 30 schools.

34:53 But they’ll give us enough lead time

34:55 that those schools can be prepared

34:56 for an extra day of testing.

34:58 Yes, and it’s in April.

35:01 The testing is in April for the writing as of right now.

35:05 And we’re supposed to have the list of the field tested

35:08 schools in November.

35:10 Oh, OK, so we’ll have plenty of time to [INAUDIBLE]

35:13 Let’s see.

35:16 Just because you’ve been doing this for a long time,

35:19 Medha, when we remove the writing from the ELA score,

35:25 what’s the potential impact of that– positive, negative?

35:31 So I know it’s probably hard to say.

35:33 I’ll answer after.

35:34 OK.

35:36 OK, so writing, as long as it’s part of school grade,

35:42 there’s a focus.

35:43 Because what’s that saying?

35:45 If you expect it, you inspect it.

35:47 And that’s always been the case with writing.

35:51 So it’s always been part of the school grade.

35:53 It was a standalone component.

35:55 When they made it part, now what they have said

35:58 is that it’s going to look how it looks today.

36:02 So it will no longer be the kids write a–

36:06 you have a prompt, and they write to the prompt.

36:08 It’s not.

36:09 It’ll be the same as it is today.

36:10 They have the reading that they’ll read,

36:13 and then they have the passages, and then they’ll have to

36:15 respond

36:16 from the passage.

36:17 So as long as they keep it as part of the school grade

36:20 component, I don’t see it negatively impacting

36:23 our school grade.

36:24 As a matter of fact, we’ve always been very strong

36:26 in the writing area.

36:28 My concern would then become if they choose not to add it

36:31 as a component of school grade.

36:33 OK, just because of accountability.

36:35 Instructionally, I like it because it

36:39 allows us to really focus in on a student’s writing strengths

36:44 and weaknesses.

36:45 When it’s been a blended result with ELA,

36:48 we don’t get a separate writing score.

36:50 And so you’re making inferences on a student’s strengths

36:53 and weaknesses based on what we do receive.

36:57 Receiving information against a specific skill

37:02 allows us to target those strengths and weaknesses

37:04 a little bit more.

37:06 And so more information is better in my book,

37:09 so I’m encouraged at the prospect of more information.

37:13 We don’t know yet it’s going to be more information,

37:15 but we’re positively hypothesizing

37:18 that it will give us more information to work

37:20 with families.

37:22 And it will be online.

37:23 The writing.

37:24 The writing will all be typed.

37:25 Which is what the students are used to, right?

37:28 For at least for the secondary.

37:30 Yep.

37:32 But the elementary, at least it gives them one more year.

37:36 Because it’s four through 10, it will take the writing online.

37:40 So it gives them one more year to make sure

37:42 that those rising third graders are

37:45 being provided with the tools to be able to take

37:47 those assessments online.

37:50 I think that’s–

37:54 Lincoln, do you have any questions?

37:55 Mr. Susan, you have any questions?

37:59 No, you guys are doing a great job.

38:01 Thank you.

38:03 I have many.

38:04 Sorry.

38:05 Just jockey in and out.

38:08 I’ll try to be as expedient as possible.

38:11 So Dr. Sullivan, you were mentioning the beauty

38:15 of information and our ability to really work with families

38:18 and help those students show growth in the areas

38:21 where they might be struggling.

38:23 And all of us having worked significantly with iReady,

38:27 not only with the data that we get at the district level,

38:29 but like Ms. Campbell and I working

38:31 with the students at Endeavor where we could really

38:33 see the impacts, the details of where

38:37 students were struggling.

38:39 Anita, you said we think we’re going

38:42 to get reference to standards on PM1–

38:45 or to strands on PM1, PM2.

38:48 Maybe standards?

38:50 I’m a little bit concerned that we’re going backwards.

38:52 So the strand information is what they are considering.

38:54 I think if they do the standards,

38:57 it’ll be in the future.

38:58 Remember, this is for information purposes only,

39:02 and this is the first administration.

39:04 So I think what the first administration will

39:06 do for all of us is provide us a way of saying, OK,

39:11 this is how we did as a district.

39:14 This is the information the state is providing us.

39:16 How can we utilize that?

39:18 Because I think I can say that the meeting that I attended

39:21 where all of the people that do my job

39:25 were sitting at the table, we all said the same thing.

39:27 Just giving us a scale score and a number

39:30 is not going to help us impact growth for a student

39:34 because the expectation is that they don’t know the standards.

39:37 Because it’s day one of their fourth grade or seventh grade,

39:42 whatever the case may be.

39:43 So we’re hoping that we’ll be able to get

39:46 additional information.

39:47 But as soon as we know anything else,

39:49 what I’ll start doing is when things come in

39:51 from the state in writing, I will send it

39:55 to Dr. Sullivan and Mrs. Klein so that they can share it.

39:59 And I’m going to try and do as many meetings with the testing

40:03 coordinators, the assistant principal principles,

40:07 and curriculum contacts so that everyone is aware.

40:11 What I don’t want–

40:12 and I’m going to say this every time I get a chance

40:14 to talk to anyone–

40:16 is that first assessment.

40:19 I have one child that if they would

40:21 have taken that first assessment,

40:22 it would have come back as a scale score.

40:24 And it would have been anything less than a five.

40:26 That child would have been boo-hooing for days.

40:30 So that’s not the intent of it.

40:32 I think the intent of providing us with a linked score

40:35 is so that we could see where the student is.

40:38 But we have to find another way to help them grow

40:41 and the families understand that it’s for informational purposes

40:46 only.

40:47 It is not punitive in any way.

40:49 It’s not labeling a student as a level one.

40:51 That’s not what the purpose of the progress monitoring is.

40:55 And so the expectation is not that they

40:56 know all the standards.

40:58 The expectation is that we’re going

41:00 to grow when we’re going to learn the standards together.

41:02 Because if you’re in third grade,

41:04 and you know all the third grade standards,

41:05 then what are you doing in third grade?

41:07 So it’s just that making sure that everybody understands

41:10 the purpose of that first one.

41:12 Because when I first read it and I thought, well, that’s great.

41:15 But I know one of my children would have been–

41:18 the other one would have been like, yeah, whatever.

41:20 But I have one that would have been crushed.

41:23 I would like to add, Ms. Belford,

41:25 that it is our understanding that the information that we

41:29 are going to receive this year in PM1 and PM2

41:33 is not representative of what we will receive in the future.

41:37 So this initial release, we anticipate to be limited.

41:41 But that’s part of the initial assessment.

41:45 We believe that there will be, in the future,

41:48 more robust information released in PM1 and PM2

41:52 to not only the school, but to parents directly as well.

41:56 For you guys, can I comment on that?

41:59 You may not have the answer, and this is where we’re going.

42:02 I think it’s with iReady.

42:04 When they do the reporting, it’ll

42:05 say, for example, for a third grader,

42:07 you are performing as a third grader

42:10 at the beginning of the year.

42:12 You are performing as a third grader mid-year.

42:14 You’re performing– will it be some– because to me,

42:17 that assures the family that if you are a third grader

42:20 at the beginning of the year and you’re

42:20 performing like a third grader at the beginning of the year,

42:22 you’re on target.

42:23 That’s the conceptual idea.

42:26 We have limited information on what that’s specifically

42:29 going to look like.

42:32 And I like to marry that with how

42:35 it being an adaptive test will match that as well.

42:38 Both of those things were–

42:40 the state has not released specific information yet.

42:44 But we do expect the first year to be a more streamlined version

42:49 with much, much more information the following year.

42:52 They’ve also said that they’re going to try and do

42:54 like a percentile rank.

42:56 So for all of the third graders that took it,

42:59 this is where you rank in the state of Florida.

43:03 That would be helpful.

43:05 But there’s a lot of–

43:07 this is what we’re thinking.

43:09 They’re building– they’re working

43:10 on all of these pieces and components

43:13 trying to get this assessment.

43:15 So like Dr. Sullivan said, we’re going

43:18 to see more information between one and two

43:21 and between two and three.

43:23 And then certainly next year, we expect

43:26 to see the test come to fruition.

43:29 And if it comes to fruition the way the state has described it,

43:32 I think it’ll be a really good thing for our kids

43:34 because we’ll be able to help them grow

43:36 from the beginning of the year.

43:38 Then we have a mid-year assessment to say, OK,

43:42 so what we’re doing isn’t working.

43:44 What do we do to get you on grade level

43:46 by the end of the year?

43:48 I would like to add something that I

43:51 believe the state heard us as Brevard Public Schools directly.

43:56 We did have an opportunity to provide some feedback

43:59 in advance to it.

44:00 And again, between Nada’s reputation in the district,

44:04 one of the things that we’re super excited about

44:07 is single-day administration.

44:09 And Nada referenced it.

44:10 I just really wanted to underscore that, why that

44:12 was really important for us.

44:13 He is currently in either ELA or math.

44:17 You have a session one and a session two over two days.

44:21 And then as soon as a child misses one of those days,

44:24 you become in spiraling makeup and difficulty for students.

44:29 And we know that for many of our students

44:31 that are having to get pulled out of classes after everyone

44:34 else, all of that adds to a student’s stress

44:37 and discomfort in an assessment environment.

44:40 So we’re super pleased, and we believe

44:42 we had influence over it, that it is no longer

44:47 a multiple day per assessment.

44:49 Plenty of time for students who require additional time.

44:53 We still want to make sure our students have extended time

44:55 and all those opportunities, but not becoming

44:58 a spiraling mess of days.

45:02 So we are pleased about that.

45:04 Having a child that had that exact experience this year,

45:07 I’m very appreciative for that better opportunity

45:09 for our students.

45:10 So I appreciate that.

45:12 I’m going to circle back to my previous question.

45:14 I don’t mean to beat a dead horse,

45:16 but I just want to make sure that I understand.

45:19 If I’m hearing correctly, we’re going to have a period of time.

45:23 We’re not going to have the same quality or depth of information

45:31 available to us to be able to address deficits with our kids.

45:38 So I think this is also why they’re still

45:42 using the iReady platform as part of the curriculum

45:46 programming.

45:47 So I don’t want to mess up speaking to that,

45:50 but I think I’m pretty solid on it.

45:53 So iReady is still a great instructional tool,

45:56 has a total complement of resources.

46:00 All of that and the data that we get from that

46:02 is still going to be available, which

46:05 is why we’re looking year by year at these running–

46:09 before we just eliminate some things that

46:11 give us powerful information.

46:13 And so for this next year, we still

46:16 have that entire full complement,

46:18 that entire full package.

46:20 And the teachers will still have all that information

46:23 as will the parents.

46:24 And as this walks out, there may be

46:26 a day where it’s not necessary.

46:29 We’re not at that day today, because this

46:31 is a year of unknown.

46:33 We don’t want student achievement information

46:35 to be unknown to us.

46:37 So we’re taking a measured approach

46:40 and working side by side with the state.

46:47 Yeah, go ahead.

46:51 First, I apologize that I’m late.

46:53 But connecting on Ms. Belfort’s question,

46:57 did we use NWEA at one point?

47:01 We use NWEA maps for our math progress monitoring

47:05 in secondary.

47:08 And we will continue to use it for algebra and geometry,

47:12 because there is not fast progress

47:14 monitoring beyond eighth grade.

47:20 And this one, I don’t know if I heard it correctly.

47:23 Maybe I misunderstood.

47:26 So our students that– our rising seniors and our rising

47:32 juniors are still under the same graduation requirements.

47:35 And we’re transitioning standards, right?

47:39 So are those students– say they took algebra in seventh grade,

47:45 but haven’t passed the EOC.

47:48 Are they taking an EOC based on the standards

47:51 that they were taught?

47:53 Or are they going to be taking an EOC based on this?

47:56 Or is there a difference?

47:59 They’re going to continue to take the retake.

48:02 And that’s based on the old standards.

48:06 And so the question then becomes,

48:09 they could also use the concordance score for PSAT

48:13 or SAT.

48:14 The question then becomes, come summertime,

48:17 is the old retake going to still be available?

48:21 I believe that it is, because that’s what they have said.

48:23 However, what they put in writing

48:25 is what I shared with you.

48:27 So as of today, those students will continue to be–

48:30 they’ll take it in the fall.

48:31 They’ll take it in the winter.

48:33 And then in the spring, there’s supposed

48:35 to be a different button that comes up for a retake.

48:40 But they have not put it in writing.

48:42 So that’s why I only said winter and fall.

48:46 And in our experience, we’ve changed tests multiple times

48:49 in our journey, in our experience only.

48:55 Students in that place have been allowed either/or.

48:58 And so they typically will run out the old one.

49:01 When we did this last time, some students actually

49:03 did better on the new assessment than the old one.

49:06 Typically, those in that space, by the year they took the course

49:11 will get options.

49:12 So they’ll look at end-of-life tests

49:16 based on when a course was taken.

49:18 So if the algebra course was taken after the new one,

49:21 that student would not have the flexibility of both.

49:24 The student who took their algebra course before that year

49:28 typically has the opportunity to both.

49:29 So in our grad plans, we typically

49:31 see a pretty complicated listing of when students took something

49:36 and what options they have.

49:38 So we do not believe it will disadvantage those students.

49:41 But we don’t believe.

49:43 We don’t believe.

49:45 Right.

49:47 So one of the things that you said

49:51 was that PM1 and PM2 are for information only.

49:55 Does PM3 count towards student grades?

49:59 So not towards a student grade.

50:02 The EOCs will still count for 30% of the final course grade.

50:05 That has not changed.

50:07 If they’re going to change it, it has to again be legislated.

50:10 And as of right now, nothing has been said about that.

50:13 The FAS is replacing the FSA.

50:19 And it’ll be treated just the same with third grade promotion

50:22 and retention.

50:22 Although for next year, it’ll be similar to what

50:26 we did with FSA, that if they had a portfolio,

50:28 they had a good cause, that other decisions were

50:32 made so that they didn’t have to use the score itself.

50:37 So it’s not going to be tied to a student’s grade.

50:40 It’ll be the same as what we saw with the FSA.

50:43 But it will be tied to school grade.

50:45 Got it.

50:47 OK.

50:50 I think that was all the questions that I had.

50:53 Oh, I had one more.

50:54 I’m sorry.

50:55 Are VPK students are taking computer-based testing?

51:01 Is it like literally mouse and keyboard, or is it–

51:04 So the VPK kids have to take it a touch pad.

51:08 OK.

51:08 But they will be taken.

51:09 And the good news is that we piloted some in the VPK

51:14 start early literacy last year.

51:18 And so the teachers are aware of how it works.

51:22 And the students seem to do well.

51:23 I don’t have the numbers of how well they did.

51:26 But from what I’ve heard from Marilyn Chappie, who’s

51:28 a director over the early learning,

51:36 she and I have had several conversations about the VPK

51:40 and the piloting.

51:41 But they do have to take it as a touch pad.

51:43 And they will not be taking math.

51:44 It’s just the reading, the ELA.

51:47 And is that just VPK that’s doing touch pad?

51:49 Just VPK.

51:51 So are we– and this might be more of a Russell Cheatham

51:55 question than a native question.

51:56 I don’t know.

51:57 Feel free to punt if you need to, native.

51:59 Resource-wise, are we set up to be

52:03 able to handle the new structure of testing and everyone

52:08 testing?

52:08 Do we have enough touch pads?

52:10 Do we–

52:12 I’m going to allow Russ an opportunity to come up.

52:15 I do want to emphasize that we are so

52:18 fortunate that our educational technology department works

52:21 hand in hand on every one of these decisions.

52:25 And I’m going to let him speak more specifically.

52:32 Good afternoon.

52:33 The information we have is that the testing takes place

52:36 in smaller groups.

52:37 So we believe that we have them covered with the iPads

52:39 that we have available.

52:40 There were some deliveries, I believe, of Chromebooks

52:43 that were going to be used to help.

52:45 But I don’t know that those are touch screens.

52:46 I don’t know how much help those will be.

52:48 But we do have some iPad equipment.

52:50 We’ve been piloting some programs as well

52:52 that should have us in good shape to do these tests.

52:55 And so our current– if VPK is the only one that’s

52:58 doing the touch pads, our current kindergartners,

53:01 first graders, second graders, they’re

53:03 all utilizing regular either laptop or desktop computers

53:07 currently in their classroom?

53:08 Correct.

53:09 We have a couple of programs.

53:10 There’s some existing iPads out there.

53:11 And there’s some other–

53:13 some of our one to one initiatives

53:15 that we’ve been doing that has a lot of iPads associated

53:17 with it for the lower grade levels.

53:19 So we’re going to be able to utilize that equipment

53:21 for those students.

53:23 So our– and this is back to Nada, I guess.

53:26 Our kindergarten– thank you, Russell.

53:29 Our kindergarten, first, second graders,

53:31 they can do touch pad or laptop?

53:33 They should be able to do either or.

53:35 OK.

53:36 And do we know– this is random.

53:39 But do we know if they are– if it’s kind of currently built

53:42 into their experience to get them comfortable with that?

53:47 So normally, when we did flickers for kindergarten

53:49 students, that was part of what we needed to do with them

53:52 was teach them how to use the mouse,

53:54 because they had to use the mouse to take the assessment.

53:57 So kindergarten, I’m not too worried about,

53:59 because kindergarten students are–

54:01 and so those are your first graders.

54:03 Currently, those kindergarten students

54:04 took the assessment last year for flickers.

54:07 So flickers used to be the star early literacy.

54:11 But it– flickers has sunsetted, and now the students

54:13 will take the star early literacy for K12.

54:18 And so second grade students are the ones

54:21 that have not been exposed two years ago

54:24 when they took flickers.

54:25 And so those are the– they’re going to have– the teachers

54:28 are going to have to work with them.

54:30 That’s one of the other reasons that we decided to push

54:32 the test to almost a 30-day window

54:36 so that the students had the opportunity

54:38 to get acclimated with whether they’re using a mouse.

54:41 What am I using?

54:41 Am I using a touch pad?

54:43 And there are going to be some practice assessments.

54:48 They’re not available yet.

54:50 That’s what we’ve been told, that there will be some practice

54:52 assessments that the students can do so that they become

54:55 familiar, not with the test questions,

54:57 but the manner in which the test questions are being asked

55:01 and how they’re expected to respond.

55:04 iReady, though, I mean, the students

55:06 have been using iReady, which requires a mouse.

55:09 Right.

55:10 I mean, they’re at least familiar with using

55:12 the computer in that way, I guess,

55:15 because all of our rising first graders enough would have–

55:20 will continue to use iReady on a regular basis.

55:23 I would say that’s an additional benefit of the progress

55:26 monitoring being tied into the summative assessment

55:30 because there’s a lot of actual complexities

55:32 with our older kids in the way the calculators work,

55:34 the formulas work, the data works.

55:36 And them having that kind of exact similar practice

55:40 in progress monitoring, we think is going to be really useful.

55:43 Can I jump in on that?

55:46 Might be crazy, but I feel like I

55:47 have this vivid memory of us going across the street

55:50 to our accounting commission asking for resources

55:52 for one to one for our VPK schedules,

55:54 and they had a really hard time understanding that concept.

55:57 So they might want to be talking to some of our state

55:59 legislators who have made these decisions.

56:01 But I can say, working in the pre-K world,

56:03 out in the community, not just in our school-based sites,

56:07 actually two years ago, it became a requirement

56:09 that their VPK assessments were done on the computer.

56:12 So they were using mice and keyboards.

56:14 They were also using touch pads.

56:16 So as insane as it sounds to us that these kids are going

56:18 to be prepared and ready, of course,

56:20 we’re going to have discrepancies in certain communities

56:22 where they may not be exposed to it.

56:24 But I’m sure all of our teachers are

56:25 going to be really well prepared to identify those students

56:27 as soon as possible and get them familiar with it.

56:29 So I have confidence in our little four-year-olds

56:33 to get it done.

56:33 Especially with every kid’s got somebody’s phone.

56:37 Yeah.

56:38 Thank you, Ms. Jenkins.

56:39 I think the last question–

56:41 thank you for your patience as I mull over all of this

56:44 in my head.

56:45 What do accommodations look like under the new progress

56:48 monitoring for students that need to have

56:52 various accommodations?

56:53 I know we already talked about providing extended time.

56:55 That will continue.

56:56 What about students that have to have it read to them?

57:00 Does any of that change?

57:01 So I’ll start with the good news.

57:04 The good news is that verbatim, which

57:07 is when the test is read to the students,

57:10 it will be now read by the computer again.

57:13 So we have the ability to work with the students

57:15 and have the practice so they hear the voice and determine,

57:19 do we need to slow it down for them?

57:20 Do we need to make it faster?

57:23 And it takes out the human error of somebody

57:26 reading the entire passage to them

57:29 and now us having to invalidate the assessment, which

57:32 is never a good thing.

57:34 The problem is with the paper-based assessments.

57:37 Paper-based assessments will not be

57:40 available for PM1 and PM2.

57:43 They will be available for PM3.

57:46 Again, they’re building all of the assessments.

57:49 And so that’s one of those that they said we’re not

57:52 going to have available.

57:53 The children will have the opportunity

57:55 to either take it on the computer.

57:56 They’re going to provide us with an alternate assessment

57:59 that we could be used.

58:00 The question I asked is, OK, so you’re

58:03 going to give us an alternate assessment.

58:05 But is that– are you going to provide us

58:06 with the alternate assessment, or is the district expected

58:10 to pay for the alternate assessment?

58:11 We don’t have the alternate assessment yet,

58:14 nor do we have the names of them.

58:15 We’re supposed to get them sometime next week.

58:17 And then whether we have to purchase them or not,

58:20 then we’ll have to work on purchasing them.

58:23 Just to clarify, Nate is referring

58:25 to students whose accommodations indicate

58:28 that they use paper-based testing.

58:30 Yes, yes, yes, the paper-based–

58:34 everything else that’s going to be available online.

58:38 Masking, the highlighting– highlighting

58:43 is typically for all.

58:45 So it’ll be a good thing, because the teachers

58:46 give those students the tools to be able to highlight.

58:49 And when they take the paper-based testing,

58:51 unless they have highlighter as an accommodation,

58:54 they can’t use the highlighter, and it confuses the kids.

58:57 The other thing is calculators are now–

59:00 the test, the math test for sixth, seventh, and eighth

59:04 graders will be segmented.

59:06 So segment one will have no calculators available.

59:10 Segment two will allow the students to use the calculator.

59:14 And that’s for sixth, seventh, and eighth.

59:16 And we’ve never allowed the sixth graders

59:18 to use calculators, but the state

59:20 is saying that they’re going to be able to use them.

59:22 They cannot use handheld calculators.

59:25 They will have to use the pop-up calculator.

59:27 Again, they’ll have to start practicing with the pop-up

59:30 calculators as soon as all of the tests

59:34 are made available so that they know what it is.

59:38 I have a little bit of a in the weeds question,

59:40 but since you kind of went down that route.

59:43 So our students that have IEPs with accommodations

59:47 for paper-based testing–

59:50 and I’m also thinking of our visually impaired students–

59:53 if that paper isn’t available and we

59:56 do have to do an alternative assessment,

59:58 are our teachers and our ESE teachers

1:00:00 going to have to then amend some of these IEPs

1:00:02 to put that on there?

1:00:04 Is that just something we can kind of get around?

1:00:07 So I don’t think for visually impaired, the font size–

1:00:11 it’s one of my favorite things about the computer-based

1:00:13 testing–

1:00:14 the kids have the ability to make the font size any size

1:00:17 that they want.

1:00:18 The large print is in an 18 font,

1:00:21 and you can’t make it any bigger than that.

1:00:23 So we have some students that don’t want it that big

1:00:25 because the test for the large print is this big.

1:00:28 So the students feel uncomfortable

1:00:30 when they see this monstrosity in front of them.

1:00:32 So I love the fact that in the computer-based testing,

1:00:36 they can actually say, I want it at a font 18.

1:00:40 And for students that have dyslexia,

1:00:43 they can also put the different colors that help them see it.

1:00:48 The kids that are colorblind will also

1:00:50 be able to use a different font so that they can see it,

1:00:53 since some of them can’t see the red, some of them

1:00:55 can’t see the blue, whatever the case may be.

1:00:57 You had asked me one other question

1:00:59 regarding accommodations, and it was, for the paper-based

1:01:02 testing, I don’t think we’ll have to amend.

1:01:05 I think we’ll have to either ask the parents whether they want

1:01:08 the student to take the assessment online to see

1:01:11 how the students do because it’s not punitive,

1:01:14 or they can take the alternate assessment, whatever that is,

1:01:17 when it comes from the state.

1:01:18 Thanks.

1:01:19 You’re welcome.

1:01:22 Anybody have anything else?

1:01:24 All right, well, thank you so much for your expertise

1:01:26 in digging into all of this, Nita.

1:01:28 I can’t imagine how you keep all of that in your head.

1:01:31 So always, always impressed with your knowledge and expertise

1:01:37 and all of that, so thank you.

1:01:39 Ms. Balfour, may I just add my own appreciation

1:01:42 and acknowledgment to Ms. Francis for her–

1:01:47 first, her competence.

1:01:48 It is among the top of the state.

1:01:50 Dr. Sullivan has already very eloquently stated that.

1:01:54 But I think in reflection of Nita’s information, which

1:01:59 is all great, but her student-centered mindedness

1:02:04 and sensitivity to the diverse array of students

1:02:07 we serve across disabilities, grade levels, and so on,

1:02:12 is just another admirable trait to you and the perspective

1:02:18 that you provide to our leaders across our schools

1:02:21 to raise their student-centered awareness and mindedness

1:02:26 as well.

1:02:27 So thank you for always keeping our kids in mind

1:02:30 as we meet all of the requirements

1:02:32 and the compliance and the rigors of this process.

1:02:36 And so I appreciate that, and not

1:02:38 to mention your ability to navigate

1:02:41 a whole new vocabulary of acronyms in education.

1:02:44 So Nita, we appreciate you.

1:02:46 And share them with other people in a way that I can understand.

1:02:48 Yes, absolutely.

1:02:49 I think this is going to be positive.

1:02:51 I mean, change is hard, and everybody hates change.

1:02:55 But we’re already used to progress monitoring, right?

1:02:58 Thank you, guys, for setting that up, especially

1:03:00 over the last several years in a formal way.

1:03:04 But just even some of the things with accommodations

1:03:07 that you’ve listed, I think we’re

1:03:08 moving in the right direction, because if we know–

1:03:10 and that was the whole point, right,

1:03:12 is to know earlier where the gaps are

1:03:15 so that we can identify those on an individual basis

1:03:18 with every student.

1:03:18 And I’m looking forward to the day

1:03:19 where we’re really getting that individual data more.

1:03:22 This is– I think this is going to be good.

1:03:24 I’m an optimist, but I think this is going to be good.

1:03:27 Well, and I love that we have to have our outcomes by May 31st.

1:03:31 So the other thing that I forgot to mention,

1:03:33 and I should have, is they are saying that PM1 and PM2,

1:03:39 the teachers will be able to see those scores within 24 hours.

1:03:43 That’s awesome.

1:03:44 So they don’t have to wait for everything to come back to us.

1:03:47 They’ll be able to see–

1:03:49 but when we talk about–

1:03:50 will they be able to see the strands?

1:03:52 Whatever report–

1:03:53 Oh, you’re saying yesterday we don’t know.

1:03:55 Oh, we don’t know.

1:03:56 OK.

1:03:56 Whatever report the state provides us,

1:03:58 they will be able to see, like they do with iReady,

1:04:01 that they’re able to see in 24 hours is what they’ve said.

1:04:05 Even if it pushes to 76 hours or at the end of the window,

1:04:08 that’s still much better than waiting three months for us

1:04:12 to get the results.

1:04:13 And then we should get school grades faster.

1:04:15 Well, I mean, some of that has to wait,

1:04:16 but we have to wait for some other scores

1:04:18 to come in besides those.

1:04:19 So if they do at the end of May for all reporting for PM3,

1:04:23 then we should be able to have school grade by June.

1:04:28 EOCs are– they were saying everything by May 31st.

1:04:32 Oh, even EOCs coming in by May 31st.

1:04:34 Even EOCs.

1:04:34 That’s what they have said.

1:04:36 OK, what time is it?

1:04:39 You’re going to go back to your email and be like, never mind.

1:04:42 But AP testing, some things we don’t control.

1:04:45 Some of the Cambridge testing and the AP testing.

1:04:47 Of course, the school grades come out before that.

1:04:49 [INAUDIBLE]

1:04:49 Yeah, OK.

1:04:50 So the–

1:04:55 OK, so all that goes on to the next year.

1:04:58 So this year’s AP and Cambridge scores and CTEs

1:05:01 are all that will affect–

1:05:02 OK.

1:05:03 I don’t know if that ever really–

1:05:05 you probably told us that.

1:05:06 I didn’t really clue in with me until today.

1:05:08 Sometimes I’m so–

1:05:09 Well, and it won’t technically affect because we’re not

1:05:11 going to get school grades next year.

1:05:13 Right.

1:05:15 But will it be like last year, where we’ll know what they are,

1:05:18 but they’re not officially posted?

1:05:20 Or we don’t know.

1:05:22 What they have said is, no, we’re not

1:05:24 going to get anything next year.

1:05:26 What we will get is, after they’ve

1:05:28 done the standard setting, after they’ve done everything,

1:05:31 and it goes to the board, then they

1:05:33 will release for information only the school grade.

1:05:38 But it will not have your learning gains.

1:05:40 So it will be when we went from FSA, from FCAT 2 to FSA.

1:05:46 That’s with that year.

1:05:47 Here is how this district did.

1:05:51 Yep.

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1:06:18 Anybody have anything else?

1:06:21 All right.

1:06:22 There being no further business, this meeting is now adjourned.

1:06:24 Thank you.

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