Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL

2024-08-13 - School Board Meeting

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5:27 - Good evening and welcome to the August 13th, 2024

5:30 board meeting.

5:31 It is now in order.

5:32 I’d like to welcome my fellow board members and the public.

5:34 It’s encouraging to see so many faces in the audience.

5:37 I will politely ask the public to help our board meeting

5:39 go more smoothly by following a few simple

5:41 housekeeping rules.

5:42 The public’s opportunity to address the board

5:44 is during public comment portion of the meeting.

5:46 I’d ask the public refrain from speaking loud disruptions,

5:48 distractions, or other form of communication

5:50 that hinder the business of the board.

5:52 Paul, roll call, please.

5:53 - Ms. Wright. - Here.

5:54 - Mr. Trent. - Here.

5:55 - Ms. Campbell. - Here.

5:56 - Ms. Jenkins. - Here.

5:57 - Mr. Susan. - Here.

5:58 - At this time, the board would like to hold

6:00 a moment of silence and we invite the audience to join.

6:22 Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.

6:26 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

6:33 and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God,

6:38 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

6:46 - All right.

6:47 It feels like it’s been forever since we’ve had a board meeting,

6:50 but it’s actually only been two weeks.

6:51 All right.

6:52 At this time, I’d like to offer my fellow board members

6:54 and Dr. Rendell an opportunity to recognize students, staff,

6:56 or members in the community.

6:57 Does anybody like to go first?

6:59 - I’ll go first.

6:59 I’ll be quick.

7:00 - OK.

7:01 - I just want to say happy first week back to school

7:03 to all of our staff members, our families, our students.

7:07 And I just want to say a special shout out

7:09 to our families who are dropping off pre-K students

7:12 and kindergarten students.

7:13 I know this week can be a little scary for both the kids

7:15 and sometimes more of the parents.

7:17 But just know that your kids are in really good, safe hands

7:20 that love them and will wrap their arms around them

7:22 and they’re going to have an amazing year.

7:24 So don’t cry too much.

7:26 And I just also want to say a shout out to so many

7:28 of our community members and businesses

7:30 have over the summer had collective drives for school

7:33 supplies for either schools in their communities

7:35 or for the Brevard Schools Foundation.

7:37 So thank you for everyone who was thinking

7:39 are our kiddos in need.

7:40 And continue to reach out to your schools

7:42 locally, see if they need anything if you’re still

7:44 looking to support.

7:45 Thanks.

7:46 - Thank you.

7:47 All right, Ms. Campbell, you ready?

7:49 - Yes.

7:50 From all accounts that I’ve heard,

7:52 yesterday was a successful first day of school.

7:55 It’s always nice to be able to breathe a sigh of relief

7:58 that we didn’t have too many major issues going on.

8:00 Actually, I emailed Dr. Miller sometime during the day.

8:03 I said, I know it’s crazy because it’s the first day.

8:05 He said, actually, it hasn’t been too bad.

8:06 So he probably knocked on wood right after that.

8:08 But just thank you to Dr. Miller in transportation,

8:12 to Sue Han and the facilities team

8:14 for taking care of the things that did pop up.

8:17 And just for all the teams that helped our schools get ready

8:20 so that we could have a relatively uneventful first day.

8:23 That’s the way we like it.

8:24 So I also wanted to shout out to another staff member.

8:28 And that is Dr. Melinda Mayer, who is over our charter

8:32 and choice area.

8:35 And I sit for the board on the Choice Appeals Committee.

8:40 And I just have gotten to see up close and personal,

8:42 not just her, but her whole staff, their work they do.

8:45 Because we have parents who want their children

8:47 to have different opportunities besides their own school.

8:50 And it’s a very emotionally fraught issue.

8:53 And her team just handles that very well,

8:54 very personal with each family and with the schools

8:57 trying to figure out what’s the best for the kid and help them.

9:00 And so just shout out to Dr. Mayer.

9:02 And just thank you for the work that you and your team

9:05 do in making sure that goes smoothly for families.

9:10 Thank you, Ms. Campbell.

9:11 All right, Mr. Susan?

9:13 I was thinking about this.

9:14 And I wanted to make sure that it was right.

9:17 But I’m almost positive that we are the first board

9:20 to have every member has a student in the schools.

9:23 Does everybody here has a kid in the schools?

9:25 Yes, I do.

9:26 So I wanted to just say, a lot of people,

9:30 we can relate to many of the parents on the day

9:32 before school and everything else,

9:33 how much it takes out of you, the energy, the excitement.

9:37 And then they come home.

9:38 And then you’re like, how did school go?

9:39 And they just basically fall asleep,

9:40 because they’re so tired from the whole day.

9:42 But I did want to say that that’s unique.

9:44 There’s not many school boards throughout the state

9:46 that I know that every single board member has

9:48 a child inside the school.

9:50 So I’m proud of you guys for having a vested interest

9:53 inside of our schools in what you do.

9:55 But I did want to say, my day started yesterday

9:57 at the bus drivers.

9:58 And one of the things, because I always like to start there,

10:01 one of the things that many people may not

10:03 know about the bus driver situation

10:04 is that not only are we fully staffed and everything else,

10:07 that’s great.

10:08 But we had gotten out so far ahead

10:11 that all of the buses were maintained.

10:13 All of the buses were ready.

10:15 Everything was scheduled correct.

10:16 You know what I mean?

10:17 Legitimately, there’s a time period

10:19 where transportation has to go through testing

10:22 and everything of those vehicles.

10:23 And sometimes they’re not already on the first day.

10:26 We have a bunch of reserves.

10:27 But all the reserves are ready.

10:28 They were talking about how everybody’s been trained.

10:30 Everybody’s ready to go.

10:31 That was a phenomenal stat.

10:33 And then I also had the opportunity

10:35 to go see an individual that’s one of the new STEM positions.

10:39 And there’s been some confusion out there

10:41 about these aren’t real STEM.

10:42 They are standalone STEM positions.

10:45 And I think that one of the things that

10:46 was interesting about the conversation

10:48 was how he’s taking each one of the school classrooms

10:53 and tying them into the STEM and then identifying

10:56 areas of growth for science and everything else.

10:59 We’re looking– this may be a great opportunity for growth

11:01 in our science and everything else,

11:03 having that STEM coordinator inside of every school.

11:06 And then Viera Middle School with Ms. McNutt,

11:08 she did amazing.

11:09 I stopped over at some assistant librarians

11:11 and checking in with them.

11:12 They’re excited on the day.

11:15 And then I’ve been dealing with a lot of pre-K parents

11:17 that are still trying to get their kids in because we’re

11:20 advertising a lot.

11:21 So our numbers are going to be really good in those areas.

11:23 And one of the greatest ones that I did

11:25 was I stopped off and thanked some of the crossing guards.

11:28 Because we always forget to stop to say thanks to them.

11:30 And they are just as excited to be there too.

11:32 So all the way around, I’m just proud to be a part of BPS.

11:36 And we have some great staff members out there.

11:37 And here we go.

11:39 Thank you, Mr. Susan.

11:40 Mr. Treck?

11:44 Pretty close to being flawless yesterday.

11:45 That was really good.

11:47 I had to make sure something didn’t happen to my emails

11:51 because I didn’t get any negative emails

11:53 on drop off lines.

11:56 Not that I didn’t get it in person on that.

11:59 But it went well.

12:00 Early in the morning, despite the mosquitoes attacking,

12:05 cheering on those kiddos being dropped off

12:08 and coming into the school for the first time of the year,

12:12 it was a great experience.

12:15 Shout out to the staff and the teachers

12:17 that had the smiling faces on that

12:19 were greeting those kids at the multiple schools I was at.

12:23 It was the same across the board.

12:25 So shout out to all of you.

12:28 Also shout out to our communications and Janet

12:31 Murnahan and her crew on top of things.

12:34 For the beginning of the year, couldn’t be any better,

12:37 couldn’t be any smoother.

12:38 Appreciate all the efforts.

12:40 And we’re excited.

12:42 It’s going to be a great year.

12:44 Thank you.

12:46 All right.

12:46 So yes, shout out to Janet and your team.

12:48 I have to say, honestly, we were all over the place yesterday.

12:52 And the government community relations

12:54 seemed to track us all.

12:55 And that was amazing.

12:56 So it was a wonderful first day of school.

12:58 One of the things that really resonated with me

12:59 walking the school and being there before students came in

13:02 is the feeling of a building when it’s empty

13:04 and there aren’t students in the building.

13:06 And then the change that happens when kids come in

13:08 and they’re excited and they have their backpacks.

13:11 And it’s just something magical to experience.

13:13 So we are so happy all of our kiddos

13:15 are back in our classrooms.

13:16 And we’re hoping for a wonderful school year and continued

13:18 improvement for their academic success.

13:20 We’ve had a lot of things that have happened.

13:22 And so I’m going to quickly run through them

13:23 because I don’t want to miss any of them.

13:25 But I want to give a thanks to Space Florida.

13:27 Space Florida held a signing, an MOU signing,

13:30 for multiple districts all over the state that

13:33 have signed on to become a Space Florida Academy.

13:36 And basically what that means is that our district

13:38 is going to dedicate ourselves to certain programs that

13:41 are going to align with the space industry.

13:43 And I believe Dr. Wendell, is there over 20 districts?

13:45 I don’t know if you recall how many districts

13:46 were there at that signing.

13:47 I believe it’s 22.

13:48 22 districts that came to Brevard here, obviously,

13:51 since we have the Space Center, fun event.

13:53 Really a lot of energy, a lot of excitement

13:55 for what the future looks like and what it holds.

13:57 Several back to school bashes obviously happened.

13:59 So thank you to Space Coast.

14:01 Space Coast gave their building up to have an indoor back

14:04 to school bash, which I will say might be the best thing that

14:07 ever happened because there’s air conditioning.

14:08 And it happened, obviously, in the month of August.

14:11 So that’s very warm.

14:12 But then the north end also had a back to school bash.

14:14 Lots of backpacks, lots of things that were given out.

14:16 That Sunday I got to participate in the Kicks for Kids event.

14:20 This is one that I selfishly think is probably

14:22 the most fun event of the year.

14:24 So the north end, they raised $30,000,

14:27 which is a lot of money, to be able to afford 600 kids

14:31 the ability to go into a shoe store

14:32 and pick a pair of shoes off of the shelf,

14:35 as long as they’re a tennis shoe.

14:36 And so just being able to stand there with those kids,

14:39 help the parents that come in with like six kids,

14:40 and they’re running all over, and they don’t know where to go,

14:42 and go help them find shoes.

14:43 And just a huge, huge, huge success.

14:46 Edna Wilson is a wonderful individual

14:48 in the north end of the county who helps coordinate this.

14:51 And honestly, it is a labor of love.

14:52 And it is just magic that happens in there.

14:54 So thank you, thank you, thank you, Edna,

14:56 for all the work that you do there

14:57 to make sure our kids show up to school on the first day

15:00 and have new shoes.

15:01 Dr. Rendell, I’m going to turn it over to you.

15:04 Thank you, Madam Chair.

15:05 The first thing I want to do is thank the negotiating

15:07 teams on both sides, the district negotiating team

15:10 and the negotiating team from BFT.

15:13 We are opening school with an agreement

15:15 with our teachers union.

15:17 And we don’t know officially, because we don’t really

15:20 keep track of those types of things,

15:22 but nobody in the building can remember ever opening school

15:27 with a contract already settled.

15:29 So that’s a huge shout out to the negotiating teams

15:32 and also the board for providing direction and support.

15:34 And thank you to our community for providing the resources

15:37 to make that happen.

15:38 I want to turn back the clock a little bit to earlier

15:41 this summer.

15:41 I’m going to ask Tara Harris to come up.

15:44 She’s our assistant superintendent in charge

15:46 of curriculum and instruction.

15:48 We’ve been having these summer enrichment camps

15:51 for the last couple of years.

15:52 And we don’t always get any feedback on those.

15:59 So we got some feedback recently that we

16:01 thought we would share.

16:03 So I’ll turn it over to Tara.

16:04 This is pretty special, because I’m

16:08 going to bring it up to the dais in a second.

16:10 But we actually got a thank you card

16:11 written by three of our students.

16:13 So I will share that with you.

16:14 But I want to read what they wrote in this.

16:19 The first student, Dear Brevard schools,

16:21 I loved going to summer camp this year.

16:24 It was fun to make art projects at Manatee Elementary.

16:28 I really liked working with clay.

16:30 I also went to snack making and block printing camp.

16:33 I love all the camps and stamps I made.

16:37 Thank you for a fun summer.

16:39 And that’s from Owen.

16:41 The next comment in here that I’ll share

16:43 is, thank you for providing my family

16:46 an incredible and free summer camp.

16:48 They have not only given me something

16:50 to do over the summer, but have also

16:52 allowed me to get a step ahead of my peers in my studies.

16:56 I personally took your SAT prep and automotive shop camps,

17:00 both at Satellite High.

17:02 I loved both of them and learned critical maintenance

17:05 on vehicles and how to prepare for the SAT.

17:08 Because of my experiences with these summer camps,

17:11 I plan to take more next summer.

17:13 So thank you for these summer camps.

17:16 And that is from Jack.

17:18 The next one is, thank you for letting

17:20 my family do fun summer camps.

17:23 I took the Broadway on the beach camp.

17:25 I made tons of new friends and learned stuff about the stage

17:29 my school does not teach.

17:31 I also went to the snack making and block printing camp

17:35 and learned something new.

17:37 I can’t wait to do more next year.

17:39 So I’m going to bring this up.

17:40 But I just thought it’s super nice.

17:42 I know that a lot of our teachers go to a lot of effort

17:46 and give up some of their summer to do this.

17:49 So this is a thank you for all of the teachers

17:51 out there that make those possible.

17:55 Thank you for sharing that.

18:00 Thank you, Madam Chair, that’s it.

18:02 All right.

18:02 Well, that will bring us to the adoption of the agenda.

18:05 Dr. Rendell.

18:07 Thank you, Madam Chair.

18:08 On this evening’s agenda, we have administrative staff

18:10 recommendations, 19 consent items, two action items,

18:14 and two information items.

18:17 Changes made to the agenda since release to the public

18:19 include the following.

18:22 Revised were A7 administrative staff recommendations,

18:25 F9 minutes, F11 instructional staff recommendations,

18:30 G29 department/school initiated agreements,

18:33 and H32, which is the 24/25 student progression plan.

18:38 Do I hear a motion?

18:39 Move to approve.

18:40 Second.

18:41 Any discussion?

18:42 No?

18:43 All roll call, please.

18:44 Ms. Jenkins.

18:45 Aye.

18:45 Ms. Campbell.

18:46 Aye.

18:46 Ms. Wright.

18:47 Aye.

18:47 Mr. Trent.

18:48 Aye.

18:48 Mr. Susan.

18:49 Aye.

18:50 All right.

18:50 We are now at the administrative staff recommendations.

18:53 Do I hear a motion?

18:54 Move to approve.

18:54 Second.

18:55 Any discussion?

18:57 No.

18:57 All roll call, please.

18:58 Ms. Jenkins.

18:59 Aye.

18:59 Ms. Campbell.

19:00 Aye.

19:00 Ms. Wright.

19:01 Aye.

19:02 Mr. Trent.

19:02 Aye.

19:03 Mr. Susan.

19:03 Aye.

19:04 Dr. Rendell.

19:05 Thank you, Madam Chair.

19:06 I’d like to take a moment to recognize

19:08 a couple of new administrators.

19:10 So first, we’d like to congratulate Scott Swinehart

19:12 on his promotion to assistant principal

19:14 at Kennedy Middle School.

19:15 Scott, congratulations.

19:16 Come on up.

19:24 Lord, Dr. Rendell, if I may.

19:26 I’d like to first start by thanking my wonderful wife,

19:30 Shannon, who I had the honor to share this experience

19:33 with this evening.

19:34 Were it not for her efforts, her continuous encouragement,

19:39 and support, I certainly wouldn’t be here.

19:41 So thank you so much.

19:42 I appreciate it.

19:44 Next, our wonderful new principal

19:47 at Kennedy Middle School, Ms. Owens.

19:50 She’s only been there a few days, but I can already

19:52 tell she’s going to make a huge difference.

19:54 And I thank you so much for giving me

19:55 the opportunity to serve as part of your administrative team.

19:58 I really think that we’re going to do some really good things,

20:01 and you’re going to be hearing a lot of really good things

20:03 from Kennedy this year.

20:05 Ms. Weibel, I hope you haven’t left.

20:08 There you are.

20:09 Ms. Weibel.

20:10 Dr. Davis, all the faculty and staff

20:13 that have provided me words of encouragement

20:15 and have just helped to build my confidence

20:18 in moving to this next step, I just

20:20 wanted to say a huge thank you to them,

20:22 and I really appreciate it.

20:23 And finally, to the board, Dr. Rendell,

20:26 I really appreciate your vote of confidence,

20:28 and I look forward to continuing to serve from our public

20:30 schools.

20:30 Thank you again so much.

20:32 I appreciate it.

20:32 Thank you.

20:33 [APPLAUSE]

20:38 All right, next we’d like to congratulate Sue Deginger, who’s

20:40 being promoted to the position of sister principal

20:42 at Bayside High School.

20:43 Sue, congratulations.

20:44 [APPLAUSE]

20:52 I don’t know if I’m calling–

20:53 I know.

20:54 I’m like, there’s a button to lower it.

20:56 It’s OK.

20:56 I’m pretty loud.

20:58 No, we’ll get it.

21:01 I don’t know.

21:02 No, we got it.

21:05 There.

21:06 Now we can see you.

21:07 There we go.

21:08 That’s good.

21:09 Yes.

21:12 I want to start by saying thank you

21:14 to Dr. Rendell and the board, and Director Sherry Bowman

21:18 for giving me this opportunity, and my principal, Holly Zander,

21:23 for choosing me last year for her TOA,

21:27 and then allowing me to step forward due to my efforts,

21:32 and guiding me.

21:34 She’s really been a servant leader for me

21:37 to watch and see how to interact with our students and faculty

21:44 at this level.

21:46 I would also like to say thank you to Vicki Medeiros.

21:48 She was my guide in the dean’s office,

21:51 leading me on helping me make the decisions

21:54 and guiding me through processes.

21:57 My friend, Felicia Whitfield, who really encouraged

22:00 me to apply for the TOA position, because I had debated

22:05 leaving my classroom and leaving my students,

22:07 because it was a transition after school had started.

22:10 And then my husband, who has supported me 30 plus years

22:14 in all my adventures and things, and encouraging me,

22:18 as well as the Bayside family, the school, the staff,

22:23 from the custodians to everyone that comes on the campus,

22:28 encouraged me, and just makes me feel like I belong there.

22:32 And go Bears.

22:35 Congratulations.

22:36 [APPLAUSE]

22:40 All right, we’re going to take a short recess to grab a photo

22:42 real fast, and then we will be back at 5.50.

22:53 [MUSIC PLAYING]

25:32 Welcome back.

25:33 We are now at the public comment portion of the meeting.

25:36 We have a total of nine speakers tonight.

25:38 Each will receive three minutes.

25:39 In an effort to remain unbiased, the speakers at the podium–

25:43 actually, I shouldn’t say that, because I’ve taken back

25:44 the time clock now at this point.

25:46 So Mr. Gibbs is going to call you up to the podium in three.

25:49 Sorry.

25:50 I’d like to take the opportunity to remind

25:52 the public of the rules written out in board policy 0169.1.

25:55 All comments should be directed at the board or individual board

25:58 members.

25:58 Staff members or other individual names

26:00 shall not be addressed.

26:02 Abusive, obscene, or irrelevant comments will not be permitted.

26:05 Orderly conduct is expected from all public comment

26:07 participants.

26:08 The presiding officer may interrupt, warn,

26:10 or terminate a participant’s public comment opportunity.

26:13 Mr. Gibbs, can you please call the first three speakers?

26:15 Gina Darrange, Greg Ross, Julia Anton.

26:20 All right.

26:20 Give me one second, Ms. Gina.

26:21 Let me make sure this is good to go.

26:24 Ready?

26:25 OK, I’m ready.

26:25 Go for it.

26:27 Good evening, everyone.

26:29 My name’s Gina Darrange.

26:30 I’m a retired teacher from Brevard County.

26:33 I taught AP, Cambridge, and IB for 10 years.

26:38 I’ve been a grader for 10 years for College Board.

26:40 And this year, I graded for College Board from home.

26:44 I always get the DBQ, which is looking at seven documents

26:47 and grading them.

26:49 And I guess for seven years, I’ve gotten the DBQ.

26:52 So I guess I can read the handwriting.

26:54 I just want to give you some stats on what’s going on with AP.

26:58 820,000 essays were written by students.

27:02 And less than 2,000 people graded those essays.

27:07 An increase of my subject area, which

27:09 is world history, that I taught for more years

27:12 than I taught government and human geo.

27:16 20,000 more kids signed up for AP classes.

27:20 20,000 from last year to this year.

27:24 The pass rate for AP World was 64%.

27:27 But this is what I want to tell you all.

27:31 They answered the prompt.

27:33 And if you’ve ever taught an AP class,

27:37 you will know that they don’t answer the prompt.

27:40 They’re nervous.

27:41 They see China, and they start writing everything

27:44 they know about China and not answering the prompt.

27:46 And this prompt was about the impact of communism

27:49 from 1930 to 1990.

27:52 And they nailed it.

27:53 They nailed it.

27:54 The pass rate for AP World was 64%.

27:58 The pass rate for US was 73%.

28:02 The pass rate for African-American studies

28:05 not offered in the state of Florida

28:08 was 73% for a first year test.

28:13 Government, 73%.

28:15 AP Euro, 72%.

28:18 AP human geo.

28:19 And these are freshmen, OK?

28:21 These are babies.

28:22 56%.

28:25 Pass rate was great.

28:28 They answered the questions.

28:29 And I’m going to leave two suggestions.

28:32 Next year is supposed to be all digital for AP.

28:35 They’ve been saying that for two years, though.

28:37 Please work with their handwriting.

28:39 Because AP, we really vet that question.

28:43 If I can’t read it, I give it to someone else.

28:46 And then they give it to someone else.

28:48 It is the last, last effort to not give that kid a zero.

28:52 You don’t want to ever do that.

28:53 You want the ability of the kid to get that credit.

28:57 Cambridge is not offering digital.

28:59 So if the kids are taking Cambridge,

29:01 practice the handwriting.

29:04 And two teachers from Brevard County, Alex Lopez and Maria

29:09 Santiago, got 100%–

29:11 Can you please not use people’s names?

29:13 Oh, I’m sorry.

29:13 I’m sorry.

29:14 Thank you.

29:14 Two friends that I’ve taught with.

29:18 One from Edgewood and one from Palm Bay.

29:21 100% baby, yeah.

29:22 All right.

29:23 [APPLAUSE]

29:27 Greg Ross, Julia Anton, Nicole Van Ness.

29:36 Good evening, board.

29:36 Thank you for this opportunity for public comment.

29:39 I’m here to speak this evening on the continued book

29:41 banning policies of this board.

29:44 News has broken that an additional 105 books were

29:46 banned, some of them classics, such as Heidi,

29:48 Wuthering Heights, and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

29:51 These book bans come not as a surprise as many of us

29:54 in the Brevard community predicted that the book bans

29:58 would only grow and get more ridiculous under this school

30:00 board.

30:01 And here we are.

30:02 But let’s remember how we got here.

30:04 This board was seated in November of 2022.

30:07 In response to a request by Moms for Liberty,

30:10 the new board of extremists immediately

30:12 set forth in December of 2022 to update the BPS book ban

30:16 challenge policy to make book banning easier.

30:19 The eventual changes to the policy?

30:21 Removal of books from libraries as soon

30:23 as they are challenged, not after an actual review.

30:26 That was you, Mr. Trent.

30:28 Mr. Susan wanted the school board

30:29 to consider multiple committees to speed it up.

30:33 What happened?

30:34 Removal of all media specialists from the voting committee.

30:37 No more media specialists providing

30:38 their qualified expert opinions via votes.

30:42 The first committee under these new rules

30:43 immediately banned three books in June of 2023.

30:47 Still not satisfied with the public scrutiny

30:49 and having to hear feedback from the citizens,

30:52 this board was then caught in a secret recording threatening

30:55 public commenters and members of the reconsideration committee

30:58 with whom they disagreed.

31:00 Matt Susan threatened to have the wife of a reconsideration

31:04 committee member arrested for voicing her opinion.

31:07 Jean Trent admitted that they should

31:08 be able to remove a book because they don’t like the cover,

31:11 regardless if the book actually broke the law.

31:14 Still not happy at the rate of books being banned to BPS,

31:17 this board then suspended the book reconsideration committee

31:20 in June of 2023 so they could revisit the policy again.

31:25 In July of 2023, Moms for Liberty,

31:28 not happy with the delay in banning of books,

31:31 decided to read books from the podium in an attempt

31:33 to get them banned through an unconstitutional state law.

31:36 Chair Megan Wright was only happy to oblige and ban

31:39 those books as well.

31:41 So here we are, right?

31:45 We now have an internal process that’s

31:47 being done by this board to ban books, right?

31:53 A process that is out of public overview, out of public sight,

31:58 and out of public input.

32:00 It shouldn’t be this hard for the public

32:02 to find out what books have been banned by this board, right?

32:06 It had to take a public records request by a nonprofit

32:10 to find these books.

32:12 What books?

32:13 How about No David?

32:16 All because of a little tiny but, right?

32:18 They moved it from elementary to middle school.

32:20 Well, I assume they did because they haven’t put out

32:22 a list of what happened to those books, right?

32:25 Hope the camera sees that, whichever angle.

32:29 The same book that Indian River County

32:31 had them draw pants on the little boys’ buttocks.

32:35 Here we are, 2024.

32:38 Thank you.

32:39 [APPLAUSE]

32:41 Julia Anton, Nicole Van Ness, Kelly Curban.

32:52 My first job out of college I worked in the deputy sheriff’s

32:59 office in Jefferson County,

33:06 Alabama, which is Birmingham, has a kind of a nasty history of

33:11 police behavior in that

33:13 area.

33:14 Well, when I started working there in my initial training, they

33:19 emphasized very strongly that

33:22 I was to obey any lawful order that I was given.

33:27 And then they circled back and they said the key word is lawful.

33:32 Remembering the bad history of police dogs, fire hoses, not

33:36 responding to calls for help,

33:38 ignoring lynchings, et cetera, lawful was the key word.

33:44 They were changing their practice.

33:46 And the new practice was you obey lawful orders.

33:51 But if you’re pressured to be a part of something that’s not

33:54 lawful, you don’t do it.

33:57 If you stand up to the pressure, we’ve got your back.

34:00 If you bow to the pressure, you’re on your own and you don’t

34:03 want to be there.

34:04 Now, that’s the way that it’s supposed to be, especially with

34:09 public employees.

34:10 They should feel safe and confident to do their jobs lawfully

34:16 and backed up by their

34:18 employers.

34:19 That’s the way it’s supposed to be.

34:22 But here we have books being weeded for no discernible reason.

34:32 And the reason given is HB 1069.

34:36 And the only reason that I can think of is that they have fear

34:40 that you’re not going

34:41 to stand up to them when those Moms for Liberty people start

34:45 shouting, we want to have this

34:47 person arrested because I don’t like that book.

34:50 Now, maybe I’m making a big leap, but I have been trying since

34:56 Friday to figure out any

34:59 justification for weeding the yearling and listing the reason as

35:06 HB 1069.

35:08 Have you read the yearling?

35:11 Hopefully you have.

35:12 And if you haven’t, you need to go home tonight, download it on

35:15 your Kindle or your Audible,

35:17 and you need to not sleep until you finish it.

35:20 If there was ever a book that teaches young adults, children,

35:25 morphing into adulthood

35:27 about responsibility, this is the book.

35:31 If there was ever a book that addressed the number one conflict

35:35 of every teenage since

35:36 the beginning of time, which is rebelling against parental

35:40 authority, this is the book

35:42 that teaches the child that mom and dad actually do love you and

35:46 they know what they’re talking

35:48 about and they actually are looking out for you, no matter how

35:51 much you think you know

35:52 more than they do.

35:54 There’s no HB 1069 reason for pulling that book.

35:58 They’re afraid you won’t stand up to them if Moms for Liberty

36:02 doesn’t like it.

36:03 » Thank you.

36:04 » Not true.

36:05 [ Applause ]

36:06 » Nicole Van Ness, Kelly Curvin, Rochelle Jolly.

36:12 It’s Nicole Van Ness.

36:18 » My question is directed towards Matt Susan.

36:29 Our son attends Sierra Middle School and our home is right at

36:34 the two-mile mark for the

36:36 bus route.

36:38 So we know we’re not eligible for a bus.

36:41 However, the route used to measure the distance includes kids

36:45 like mine and several others

36:47 crossing from our neighborhood right at the intersection of Fiera

36:51 Boulevard and Stadium

36:52 Parkway with no crossing guard, by the way.

36:58 So my question is, is what are we doing to make sure that these

37:03 kids can get to and from

37:04 school safely?

37:08 Is a concern from several people in my neighborhood and others,

37:12 other neighborhoods, past Fiera

37:14 Boulevard as well?

37:16 Do you guys ever answer or are you just here to listen?

37:24 » We typically – it’s not a back and forth conversation.

37:26 » Yeah.

37:27 » Okay.

37:28 This is my first time at one of these so I wasn’t sure.

37:31 » I’ll deal with you in just a second.

37:32 » Sure.

37:33 » So just hang on until I have public comment.

37:34 » I appreciate it.

37:35 Thank you, guys.

37:36 » Thanks.

37:37 » Thank you.

37:41 [ Applause ]

37:42 » Kelly Curvin.

37:43 » I’ve already got it all worked out.

37:44 » Rochelle Jolly.

37:45 » I’ve been working on this.

37:46 » Julie Mantione.

37:47 » A bunch of them that are there so I did it.

37:48 » When I come to the podium, I am talking to five elected

37:52 officials.

37:52 My comments may include our superintendent if the topic warrants

37:56 it but by far and large,

37:57 my comments are about school board members who have engaged in

38:00 unprofessional behavior,

38:01 shady low-level corruption, bad governance to include poor

38:04 policy writing, discriminatory

38:06 statements and ignoring unintended consequences, disrespecting

38:09 teachers and their classroom

38:11 autonomy, censorship of ideas and information and unsafe

38:14 practices like guns inside our

38:16 classrooms.

38:17 In short, the school board is not the district but the school

38:19 board does influence how people

38:20 feel about the district.

38:22 A list of books was released through a public records request, BPS

38:25 fulfilled.

38:26 That list contained over 100,000 books that had been weeded

38:30 which also means removed from

38:31 public libraries around the district but that isn’t unusual.

38:35 What was unusual was the over 100 books removed because of HB 1069,

38:39 otherwise known as the

38:41 book banning bill.

38:42 Books like 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Anne of Green Gables,

38:45 Heidi, Little Women, The

38:46 Last of the Mohicans, The Yearling and the Negro Baseball Leagues,

38:49 Tales of Umpiring

38:50 Legendary Players, Breaking Barriers and Making American History.

38:54 The public outcry was swift and the statement released to the

38:57 public by BPS lacked transparency

38:58 and honesty.

38:59 First, if you weed a book from a library because of HB 1069,

39:03 then it can never go back in until

39:04 HB 1069 is repealed.

39:07 That isn’t to be confused with the book removed because it’s in

39:09 poor condition because that

39:10 book can be replaced.

39:12 Under HB 1069, the book has been banned.

39:14 Second, the school level banning is no different than district

39:17 wide book banning but unlike

39:19 district wide book banning, school level book banning isn’t

39:22 listed on the website unless

39:23 it’s been informally challenged.

39:25 Parents have the right to know every book that has been banned

39:28 from their child’s school.

39:29 Third, if I am to believe that most of the books on the list

39:31 were banned in elementary

39:33 schools and then moved to middle schools like the statement

39:35 claims, I have to ask, why are

39:37 we banning middle school books from middle school students?

39:40 Did you forget that sixth grade is middle school?

39:43 We are one of a few districts in the entire state that still

39:45 houses sixth grade in elementary

39:47 school but their curriculum is not K-5, it’s middle school.

39:51 The statement confirms you’re taking age appropriate books away

39:53 from age appropriate students or

39:55 the statement was always a lie and when it says discard, it

39:58 means discarded or trashed

40:00 because we all know you didn’t take a court of mist of fury out

40:02 of elementary schools

40:03 and put it in middle schools because it was always a high school

40:06 book that’s been banned

40:07 in the entire district and just so we’re clear, I’m not blaming

40:10 our media specialist.

40:12 They’re stuck between bad laws at the state level and bad

40:14 governance from the school board

40:16 all while knowing the school board doesn’t have their backs.

40:19 This list, that statement, was a culmination of nearly two years

40:22 of bad governance, shady

40:23 practices and putting politics over our students.

40:27 Rachelle Jolly, Julie Mantione and Karen McWhirter.

40:43 The first banned book recorded in the United States was actually

40:45 before there was even

40:46 a United States.

40:47 The Puritans that had settled the colonies banned a book and

40:50 exiled its author, Thomas

40:51 Morton.

40:53 He dared to write about the mistreatment of the indigenous

40:56 people who were here when the

40:57 colonists arrived.

40:59 This was a threat to the Puritans in their way of life.

41:01 You see, he was too friendly with the indigenous people.

41:04 He advocated for them and criticized his fellow colonists.

41:07 His book was published in 1637.

41:10 They tried to exile him.

41:13 Banning books is nothing new.

41:14 Books are a threat to narrow minds.

41:16 They’re dangerous to the status quo.

41:18 They threaten authority and dictators.

41:21 When Frederick Douglass’ slave master discovered that his

41:23 mistress was teaching Frederick to

41:25 read, he said, “If you let him read, he will be restless.

41:29 He won’t be satisfied with his condition.”

41:32 It was against the law for an entire group of people in this

41:36 country to learn to read.

41:38 When they were allowed to read, what they were allowed to read

41:41 was restricted.

41:42 The number one book they were not allowed to read was the Bible.

41:49 Because slave masters did not want the enslaved to learn, they

41:52 did not want them to learn

41:54 about Moses and the great exodus, for it might inspire and cause

41:57 them to be unsatisfied with

41:59 their enslavement.

42:01 It might cause them to understand more fully their possibility

42:04 of freedom.

42:05 Restricting books and information was a primary in maintaining

42:09 control of them.

42:10 During the reign of Hitler, there was a great removal of books.

42:13 Books were removed or banned that were deemed un-German.

42:17 Un-German books were considered dangerous.

42:19 They banned books about Jewish culture, Jewish organizations,

42:22 Jewish history.

42:23 Nazis banned books about sexuality and race.

42:26 All of this in order to control the masses and achieve a

42:29 cleansing, a state censorship

42:32 and control of culture.

42:34 To quote Joseph Goebbels, “No to decadence and moral corruption,

42:37 yes to decency and morality

42:39 and family and state.”

42:41 Once these books were banned, they were then burned, removed

42:45 forever.

42:46 As you can see from the very beginning, banning books,

42:48 controlling information and who has

42:50 access to that information is not about protecting people.

42:53 It’s about controlling them.

42:55 These book banners were not authority on morality and decency.

42:59 They were hateful and inhumane.

43:02 Do you really want to be on the same list as these historians?

43:06 Book banners, Puritans, Slave Masters, Hitler, Brevard Public

43:11 Schools, Matt Susan, Jean Trent,

43:14 Megan Wright, Katie Campbell, Julie Mantione, Karen McWhirter,

43:27 Paul Raub.

43:29 Hi, good evening.

43:33 Thank you for this opportunity and happy new school year.

43:38 Normally I’m here as a champion strictly of books, but I was

43:42 reflecting on current events

43:44 this summer and I realized I want to use my time today to talk

43:48 about a champion of nuance.

43:52 The more education that we have, the better we can appreciate

43:58 nuance.

43:59 There were particularly three instances this past summer that

44:05 showed more education will

44:08 equal greater understanding.

44:09 The first was the opening ceremonies of the Paris Olympics where

44:13 people didn’t have enough

44:14 nuance to know about that the Olympics began in 776 as a

44:21 religious festival to Zeus and

44:24 include Dionysus and therefore they only saw things in one

44:29 context.

44:30 And what a disservice we do to our students when we only provide

44:35 them with one way of

44:37 looking at the world and they lack nuance.

44:41 They’re essentially lacking education.

44:45 The second instance this summer was the boxer from Algeria.

44:51 That has become a huge topic in terms of transgender.

44:54 I hear people sneer all the time.

44:56 There’s only two sexes.

44:59 Democrats can’t even name what a woman is.

45:01 Well guess what?

45:03 It turns out it is more complicated.

45:06 It turns out you can be born with female body parts and still

45:10 have male levels of testosterone

45:13 or maybe even two different chromosomes.

45:18 Is serving every student with excellence not teaching them what

45:23 is appropriate science?

45:25 Is banning AP psychology because it wants to engage in nuance,

45:30 is that appropriate for

45:33 institutions of education?

45:35 And finally, we had a presidential candidate who called out his

45:42 opponent for turning black.

45:45 And no, that’s the exact quote, Mr. Trent.

45:49 But he, I couldn’t help but think that one of the reasons that

45:55 AP African American studies

45:57 was banned in the state of Florida was because it uses the

46:01 concept of intersectionality specifically

46:04 in regards to James Baldwin, that he was both, and he identified

46:08 as an African American man

46:10 as a game and as a gay man.

46:13 Perhaps if we were able to have these concepts in education, we

46:20 would better be able to understand

46:23 nuance and truly accomplish our mission to serve every students

46:29 with excellence.

46:31 Our mission should not be bubble wrap.

46:33 » Thank you.

46:35 » Karen McWhirter.

46:36 Paul Raub.

46:37 Karen McWhirter.

46:38 » Much of what I felt needed to be said has already been

46:56 covered by other speakers.

46:58 But I would like to just briefly address the issue of literacy

47:03 and removing books from

47:05 student access and removing authority and disrespecting the

47:11 expertise of library media

47:13 specialists.

47:14 I taught English at the high school level for 20 years, and I

47:18 gave it up upon moving

47:19 to Florida because I didn’t feel that this was an environment

47:22 that respected my expertise

47:24 or would afford me the ability to do what I loved.

47:27 And I think that there are a great many teachers leaving Florida

47:31 education or refusing to participate

47:33 for that very reason.

47:35 And I think that’s important.

47:41 » Paul Raub.

47:49 » So, it’s – I wish I couldn’t rely so much on the grand

47:58 tradition of not learning from

48:02 history that you guys seem to live by.

48:06 Or just not learning.

48:07 Or being against learning.

48:08 I mean, that is how you get the coveted Moms for Liberty

48:11 endorsement, man, good job.

48:14 Because learning means admitting, acknowledging that you were

48:16 wrong about something at one

48:16 point or God forbid that your parents were wrong about something

48:19 at one point or another,

48:20 which seems to be the overarching concern of that organization.

48:23 But you know, we like to repeat other people’s mistakes, maybe

48:27 even improve on them.

48:29 Escambia becomes a laughing stock for mass book removal, oh, we

48:33 can do that.

48:34 We can slide it under a few different reasons.

48:36 We can call it everything HV 1069.

48:39 Indian River County draws little pants on the No David book.

48:42 Well, we’re just going to take it away from the elementary

48:44 school students entirely, banning

48:46 by any meaningful definition.

48:48 Or if it was moved to middle school, please let me know the

48:51 middle school readers who

48:53 are clamoring to read kids’ picture books.

48:55 I mean, good for them, enjoy, have fun.

49:01 But it applies in other areas too.

49:03 Palm Beach County has an accident where someone’s injured during

49:06 their guardian-like – during

49:08 training for their guardian-like program.

49:10 The very next morning, with that little bit of knowledge, is

49:14 when you snuck that vote,

49:16 that vote under the transom to authorize it here.

49:21 We’ve seen the video from Broward County, some schools near

49:25 where I used to live, taking

49:27 what hours, two, three hours in some cases for kids to get in

49:29 the morning with the new

49:30 metal detectors.

49:32 But we’re going to float the idea of let’s throw those in here

49:35 as well.

49:35 Even though guns are so safe that we should definitely have more

49:38 of them in the schools,

49:39 we should also be looking for them with the metal detectors that

49:42 have not been proven

49:43 to actually improve things.

49:45 But another grand tradition is we don’t like data very much.

49:48 So it all checks.

49:49 You do know that metal detectors won’t detect books, the things

49:51 we’re actually afraid of,

49:53 just so everybody understands that.

49:57 And I know that later on, once the public commenters are done,

50:00 there will be the sort

50:01 of safe space where you’re going to have your comments about

50:03 misinformation and so forth

50:04 when nobody can respond.

50:07 But yeah, people may have misinterpreted or certainly

50:10 differently interpreted what the

50:12 word discard meant in a spreadsheet, because we thought it meant,

50:16 you know, discard.

50:18 And also history says getting books off the shelves as quick as

50:20 possible is referred to

50:22 as streamlining the process.

50:24 But don’t be surprised if people don’t buy your explanation.

50:27 We don’t trust you farther than we can throw you, which is not a

50:30 threat, it’s a figure

50:31 of speech.

50:32 All right.

50:33 All right, guys.

50:34 We are – is everybody good, we’re going to keep on going?

50:43 All right, awesome.

50:45 That concludes the public comment section of the meeting, so

50:47 thank you for taking the

50:48 time to address the board about your concerns.

50:50 We are now at the consent agenda.

50:52 Dr. Rendell.

50:53 » Thank you, Madam Chair.

50:54 There are 19 agenda items under this category.

50:57 » Thank you, Dr. Rendell.

50:58 Does any board member wish to pull any of the items?

51:00 None?

51:01 All right.

51:02 So I will entertain a motion.

51:06 » Move to approve.

51:07 » Second.

51:08 » Any discussion?

51:09 None?

51:10 No?

51:11 All right.

51:12 All right, so call roll call, please.

51:15 » Ms. Jenkins.

51:16 » Aye.

51:17 » Ms. Campbell.

51:18 » Aye.

51:19 » Ms. Wright.

51:20 » Aye.

51:21 » Mr. Trent.

51:22 » Aye.

51:23 » Mr. Susan.

51:24 » Aye.

51:25 » Dr. Rendell, you let us know about the items under the action

51:26 portion of the agenda

51:26 this evening.

51:27 » Thank you, Madam Chair.

51:28 The first action item is H-29, department and school initiated

51:29 agreements.

51:30 » Do I hear a motion?

51:31 » Move to approve.

51:32 » Second.

51:33 » Any discussion?

51:34 All roll call, please.

51:35 » Ms. Jenkins.

51:36 » Aye.

51:37 » Ms. Campbell.

51:38 » Aye.

51:39 » Ms. Wright.

51:40 » Aye.

51:41 » Mr. Trent.

51:42 » Aye.

51:43 » Mr. Susan.

51:44 » Aye.

51:45 » Dr. Rendell.

51:46 » Thank you, Madam Chair.

51:47 The last action item is H-30, procurement solicitations.

51:48 » Do I hear a motion?

51:49 » Move to approve.

51:50 » Second.

51:51 » Any discussion?

51:52 No?

51:53 All roll call, please.

51:54 » Ms. Jenkins.

51:55 » Aye.

51:56 » Ms. Campbell.

51:57 » Aye.

51:58 » Ms. Wright.

51:59 » Aye.

52:00 » Mr. Trent.

52:01 » I move on to the information agenda which includes two items

52:03 for the board to review

52:04 and may be brought back for action at a subsequent meeting.

52:07 No action will be taken on these items today.

52:08 Does any board member wish to discuss these items?

52:12 No?

52:13 All right, then we are now at the board member reports.

52:18 Does any board member have anything further to report or discuss?

52:21 » I’ll share.

52:23 On Thursday, FSBA hosted a regional meeting over in Orlando and

52:28 one of the guests was

52:30 Max Shactor and the organization that’s responsible for the

52:34 School Safety Dashboard, and they’ve

52:36 released their – this year their version 2.0 that records not

52:41 just like SUSO reporting

52:42 data and things like that, but bigger pictures, demographic data,

52:46 and so he encouraged everyone

52:48 to take a look at that, and it is the safeschoolsforalex.org is

52:53 the organization, and it’s schoolsafedashboard.org,

52:59 and they’re actually trying to expand outside of the state, too,

53:01 but you can actually go

53:02 to your kid’s school and see the data, and I just wanted to

53:05 point out, you know, he made

53:07 the point of saying, you know, the goal is not to trash any

53:10 particular school and say,

53:12 oh, look at the data.

53:13 He actually pointed out, for those of you who aren’t aware, Max

53:16 Shactor is one of the

53:18 parents whose child was murdered at Marjory Stoneman Douglas in

53:23 2018, and he made the

53:25 point of saying, when you look at a school that has really low

53:28 CSR data, he’s more concerned

53:30 about that, because if you look at the CSR data for Marjory Stoneman

53:33 Douglas for the

53:34 years prior to 2018, they had zero bullying incidents reported,

53:39 zero threats, zero – you

53:41 know, and it’s really – so he said, I don’t mind seeing a

53:44 school that has lots of reporting

53:46 because that shows they’re doing the reporting and they’re being

53:49 transparent, so I encourage

53:50 you guys to take a look at that resource, they’ve got all kinds

53:53 of data, and it’s coming

53:55 from us, it’s our district data that goes up to the state, but

53:57 to lots of different

53:58 organizations, and so what they did was they took all that

54:00 information, just kind of pulling

54:02 it together, and it’s a project from the University of Florida,

54:06 so a tool for board members to

54:07 use, for the public to use, and so it’s just lots of good

54:11 information, and I appreciate

54:13 them coming out and talking to us, so I’d share that with you.

54:15 That’s all I have.

54:16 » Thank you.

54:17 Thank you.

54:18 Board members have anything to discuss or report?

54:21 » No.

54:22 » No?

54:23 All right.

54:24 I am going to address this because you guys are all sitting here,

54:27 and so when we have

54:28 public comment, you are right, we cannot speak back to you, so

54:30 it is frustrating, right,

54:31 because that’s not a conversation, it’s a one-way street, it’s

54:35 you talking at us

54:36 or us talking at you, and what I will say is the misinformation

54:40 that’s being spread

54:41 by a few is wildly inappropriate, it really is, so I laugh

54:44 because one of the books that’s

54:46 on this list that you spread, my own child came home with the

54:48 curriculum for her eighth

54:50 grade class and is reading one of these books that you claim is

54:53 being banned and removed

54:54 from schools, so I’m just saying this to you to say this is not

54:57 accurate.

54:57 You guys are believing this, and it’s not completely accurate,

55:00 and the other part that

55:01 I will say, when it comes to these books being moved and put

55:05 from one place to another, number

55:08 one, the board doesn’t have any say in that, we’re not doing

55:10 that, we’re not directing

55:11 a media specialist to do such a thing, that is not coming from

55:14 us, so if a media specialist

55:16 decides to do that, they’re doing that on their own, so that is

55:19 not us, just so you

55:20 know, the board does review the books that have been challenged,

55:23 that is true, and that’s

55:24 a process, it’s in the sunshine, we have the book review

55:26 committee, a couple of you,

55:27 or one of you that spoke tonight is on that committee, so very

55:31 much, that is open, out

55:32 in the open, everyone gets to see that, but what I, what is a

55:35 little just disheartening

55:36 to me is that everything on the internet is not fact, it’s not,

55:40 I hate to say that, and

55:42 so that is, when I look at this list, I go, wow, I mean my own

55:45 kid’s reading it in her

55:46 eighth grade class for curriculum, so I’m just saying to you, it’s

55:49 not accurate, it

55:50 isn’t, so I understand that people, this topic is a topic that

55:55 people get very emotional

55:57 one way about it, or another way about it, and actually quite

55:59 frankly, people get emotional

56:01 on both sides of the aisle about this same topic, because I don’t

56:03 want my kids reading

56:04 things inappropriately, but I don’t want to ban books either, so

56:07 the two things kind

56:08 of go side and side, or side, hand in hand, excuse me, because

56:11 you think about this too,

56:13 this is, this made me think about this earlier, the, when we

56:16 talked about the FSBA advocacy

56:18 and like things that we want to go back, one of the things that

56:21 I have said from the beginning

56:22 that would help every school district, because this problem will

56:25 never go away, it’s going

56:26 to be an issue forever, is if there were an explicit content

56:29 warning, just the same as

56:30 if my daughter, who’s 13, tries to buy a CD that has curse words

56:34 in it, she can’t buy

56:35 it at Walmart, because it has explicit language, it requires

56:38 parental consent, it would be

56:40 great if the state would step in and require some type of

56:43 notification like that, and then

56:45 this doesn’t, this no longer is us, this is okay, parents, are

56:47 you okay with your children

56:48 checking out a book with explicit content, yes or no, I mean

56:51 that would be a good thing

56:53 to probably advocate for, so I’m just putting that out there to

56:55 you, Ms. Campbell, I don’t

56:56 know, I don’t, you know, that would solve this problem tenfold,

57:00 I think, honestly.

57:01 So that’s all I’m going to say about the book banning rhetoric

57:04 that’s going on and going

57:05 all over the internet, it’s not true, it’s inaccurate, so, Dr.

57:08 Rendell, do you have anything

57:09 else further to report?

57:10 I have something to say to that, because I’m so tired, I said

57:13 this last time, I’m tired

57:15 of us at the end of board meetings disparaging public comments,

57:20 people can come and make

57:21 a public comment and say the sky is green, the fact that us as

57:26 leaders in the community

57:28 feel the need to disparage those public comments every single

57:33 time is getting exhausting.

57:36 What is being shared on the internet is not false, it was given

57:40 to them as a public record,

57:42 you may not agree with the interpretation, but your role as a

57:46 leader is then to explain

57:48 what it means, correct the record, you don’t disparage the

57:52 public for legitimately reading

57:55 a public record that was disseminated by our school district to

57:58 them with those exact words

57:59 on it.

58:00 It’s ridiculous.

58:01 Okay.

58:02 No, no, ma’am, you don’t get to cut me off, I’m speaking, sorry,

58:06 just because you don’t

58:07 like what I have to say.

58:08 Ms. Jenkins.

58:09 No, Ms. Wright, I’m speaking, point of order, thank you, Ms.

58:12 Wright, I am speaking, thank

58:14 you.

58:17 The end of this board meeting isn’t a time for us to disparage

58:21 the public, where they

58:22 can’t say something back.

58:24 If you disagree, clear the air, put out a statement, ask your

58:29 staff members why there’s

58:31 confusion, ask GCR to put out a clarification.

58:37 They did not put out a good clarification, it said they were

58:40 moved from elementary school

58:42 to middle school, that is not accurate, there are books on that

58:45 list that were banned from

58:46 high schools, it doesn’t make sense, it is not an accurate

58:49 clarification.

58:50 So when the public is genuinely confused, it is our role as

58:55 leaders to clean it up,

58:57 even if they’re wrong.

58:59 If they’re wrong and confused, it should identify to you that it

59:02 needs to get cleaned up.

59:04 So stop taking it as an offense and just fix it.

59:08 If you truly believe you’re correct, put out a clear and clean

59:11 statement, but that statement

59:12 that was put out is not accurate.

59:14 Take a look at the list, it’s not accurate, so clear the air.

59:18 If those books weren’t removed, say they weren’t removed,

59:21 identify which ones weren’t removed,

59:22 but some of those were legitimately already banned from our book

59:25 committee, so it’s not

59:27 an accurate statement, so stop saying that.

59:30 I would like to put out some information that I think would help

59:33 clear the air, and the

59:34 people in the public can agree or disagree, but the fact is that

59:38 most of the books on

59:39 that list that were labeled HB 1069, they were removed by a

59:43 media specialist at a school.

59:45 Not in every school, but by that media specialist at that school.

59:48 And so they ended up on the list.

59:50 But what I would say is people need to read HB 1069, because it

59:55 includes so much more

59:57 than just sexual content, explicit content.

1:00:00 It also has other things that media specialists are charged to

1:00:05 determine if those books are

1:00:07 appropriate for the library, and that has to do with age level,

1:00:11 reading level, and so

1:00:13 whether, you know, and you know what, I will not, I wouldn’t

1:00:17 want to see the public coming

1:00:19 after these media specialists and going after the media

1:00:22 specialists because they decided.

1:00:24 You know, part of me would say, yeah, I’d like for you to be

1:00:26 able to ask why they removed

1:00:27 this particular book from this particular library, but that was

1:00:30 their professional decision.

1:00:32 So sometimes we’d come down and, oh, we don’t want the

1:00:33 professionals, we want the professionals

1:00:35 to be the professionals.

1:00:36 In this case, the professionals use their professional judgment,

1:00:39 and you can put it

1:00:39 on the legislature and say, oh, well, that law was bad, or that

1:00:43 you think that the board

1:00:44 is so intimidating that that media specialist went overboard,

1:00:48 but those books haven’t been

1:00:49 removed from every school that had those books.

1:00:53 That’s not true.

1:00:54 So I am happy to say that, but I do think people need to go and

1:00:57 read 1069, and I thank

1:00:59 you, Ms. Harris, because she informed the board after this

1:01:02 started coming out that in

1:01:03 the future, for clarity’s sake, there will be more than just HB

1:01:06 1069.

1:01:07 It will say specifically was it age appropriate, and I’m sorry

1:01:13 that you guys haven’t heard

1:01:15 that because I thought that went out, and it was clarified as

1:01:17 well.

1:01:18 Okay, so now let me clarify that.

1:01:20 In the future, Ms. Harris has told us that the codes are

1:01:22 different.

1:01:23 There are additional codes.

1:01:24 So it will say was it explicit content, was it that it wasn’t

1:01:28 the right reading level

1:01:29 for that school, all of the things that are in HB 1069, those

1:01:33 things, so it will be out

1:01:34 there, and the media specialist will have those choices, in

1:01:37 addition to books that never

1:01:38 got checked out, so they weeded them, in addition to the book is

1:01:41 in terrible shape, and so we

1:01:43 threw it away.

1:01:44 All of those things will be options, and so we’ll be clear in

1:01:48 the future.

1:01:48 So this whole process, yes, it created a lot of drama,

1:01:52 unnecessarily, my opinion, but the

1:01:54 good thing out of it is now we will have more clarity moving

1:01:57 forward, and so people will

1:01:59 know more specifically what was the reason behind the media

1:02:01 specialist removing that

1:02:03 book.

1:02:04 - And Ms. Campbell, I appreciate the response, because that is

1:02:06 legitimately what people are

1:02:07 asking for.

1:02:08 They’re asking for the transparency.

1:02:10 - Can you give everyone else an opportunity to speak if they

1:02:12 would like to speak or not?

1:02:13 So we’ll move down the line.

1:02:14 Do you have anything to say about this or add to it?

1:02:17 - I think the key is is that there’s misinformation, and there

1:02:20 was a statement made, but at any

1:02:21 point, at any point, point of order, can you tell point of order?

1:02:25 Thank you.

1:02:26 The issue is is that they continued to spread the misinformation

1:02:30 after they were said and

1:02:32 there was a statement out by our BPS, and at no time did they

1:02:35 say, “Hey, let’s meet

1:02:37 and talk about this to get the right information out,” and they

1:02:39 continue to do it, and that’s

1:02:40 just disgusting.

1:02:41 It’s just disgusting, because here we are trying to open the

1:02:44 schools, trying to do stuff,

1:02:45 and this narrative that’s not true is pushed out there, and it’s

1:02:49 wrong.

1:02:49 It’s completely wrong.

1:02:50 That’s it.

1:02:51 - All right, Dr. Wendell, do you have, sorry, Gene, do you, and

1:02:55 I’m gonna give you a chance

1:02:56 to speak.

1:02:57 I don’t know if you want to speak.

1:02:58 - Okay, well, now that I can say my second turn.

1:02:59 - No, no.

1:03:01 - Yes, yes.

1:03:02 - Dr. Wendell, do you have anything further to report?

1:03:03 - No, Ms. Wright, just because you don’t agree with my statement

1:03:05 doesn’t mean you can stop

1:03:06 me from speaking.

1:03:08 Mr. Susan, it was not misinformation.

1:03:10 It is not the public’s job to meet with you.

1:03:13 It is your job as the leader of the community to articulate

1:03:16 information to the public.

1:03:18 It is your job as the leader of this community to articulate

1:03:22 information to the public.

1:03:24 Ms. Wright, I don’t care if you disagree with me, I have a right

1:03:29 to speak.

1:03:30 - Dr. Wendell, do you have anything else further to report?

1:03:33 - Thank you, Madam Chair.

1:03:34 I’ll make a couple comments.

1:03:35 First of all, I believe the statement did include information

1:03:40 that in the future there

1:03:42 will be more menu options reported in the decision making or

1:03:48 whatever.

1:03:49 The other thing is, I really don’t wanna editorialize, but I

1:03:55 just find it ironic that the board was

1:03:57 criticized for removing media specialists from the book review

1:04:03 process.

1:04:04 They were the trusted professionals we were told.

1:04:06 They were the ones that have all the experience and know what

1:04:11 books are appropriate or whatnot.

1:04:14 This list was generated, this action was done by media

1:04:20 specialists.

1:04:21 The ones that supposedly have all the experience and knowledge

1:04:25 to make those types of decisions.

1:04:28 So we were criticized for not having them in the process of the

1:04:31 book review committee,

1:04:33 but when they act in their roles and responsibilities as a media

1:04:37 specialist, then we’re criticized

1:04:39 for them doing that.

1:04:41 I just find it ironic.

1:04:43 - Thank you.

1:04:44 All right, no further comment, this meeting is adjourned.

1:05:03 (upbeat music)