Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL
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40:20 quick overview we’ve got five minutes and so just keep that in
40:24 mind as we go
40:25 through but as we think about building our culture of wellness
40:28 this year there
40:29 is three pillars that I really wanted to make sure that we embed
40:32 in everything
40:32 that we do so as we go on to our slides and think about our
40:36 activities these
40:37 things were in the back of my mind and the first is education of
40:41 course that’s
40:41 going to be at the foundation of everything because we want our
40:45 staff to
40:45 understand why these things are important for them right
40:49 understanding
40:49 their own numbers and why that that should matter to them and
40:53 preventive
40:53 care but then also on the resources side so that’s also part of
40:57 what I will be
40:58 doing is sharing all of that information because they have so
41:01 much available to
41:02 them but I want to break it down little by little that way we
41:05 make it more
41:06 digestible and easy for them to use everything that they have
41:09 available to
41:10 them the second thing is engagement I really want to work this
41:13 year to build
41:13 more engagement individually with you know the daily things that
41:18 the staff is
41:19 doing and then of course district-wide in bigger events as well
41:24 and partnership
41:25 on the third pillar with partnership I want to partner more with
41:29 the wellness
41:30 champions on sites all of the district leadership to help
41:34 promote some of these
41:35 wellness initiatives and then of course community partnerships
41:38 to bring in
41:39 additional resources and activities for our staff to be able to
41:43 do all
41:43 throughout Brevard and so please keep in mind with this slide
41:49 that as I talk
41:50 about just the different quarters of the year again this is a
41:53 very broad overview
41:55 the calendar is more detailed but a couple of things there of
41:59 course I
42:00 wanted to fit everything in the time but as we go through all of
42:04 these things
42:04 this is a working draft as we work together and make wellness a
42:08 team effort
42:09 this year any you know feedback suggestions anything like that
42:13 it can be
42:14 edited so but what I wanted to share here is we want to think
42:18 about each
42:18 quarter as another wave of preventive care campaign so even
42:25 though each month
42:26 is a different wellness topic and you can see those at the top
42:30 those are based
42:31 on different health observances throughout the year so we’re
42:35 matching
42:35 that but even as we’re talking about different things we still
42:38 want to bring
42:39 it back to preventive care at the end of the day and so for
42:42 quarter one we’re
42:44 starting off strong with preventive care heart health and
42:47 nutrition to really get
42:48 the foundation and big six pay six going on our health literacy
42:53 and resources we
42:54 want them to be aware of different health screenings that they
42:57 can be doing
42:58 for preventive care how to understand their biometric numbers
43:01 how to use my
43:02 Cigna how to really know where should they be going is telehealth
43:07 better
43:07 should they be going to the urgent care versus ER different
43:10 things like that and
43:11 then activities to get more engagement we have our Google
43:14 challenge which is
43:16 currently happening we have more than 1,400 people already
43:19 signed up so that’s
43:20 really exciting and for February we will be doing the feel good
43:25 February and then
43:26 in March we will have the Space Coast wellness challenge for
43:29 feel good February
43:31 and Space Coast wellness challenge these are going to be free or
43:34 reduced cost
43:34 activities all throughout Brevard for all of our staff so it’s a
43:38 really great
43:39 partnership with the community to be able to bring that to them
43:42 and then
43:43 quarter two then we get into more financial well-being mental
43:47 health and
43:48 then in June men’s health so with this I really wanted to help
43:52 employees
43:53 understand more about insurance and how that relates to their
43:58 finances how to be
43:59 able to use their motivate me and get some of that back to them
44:03 of course
44:03 encourage them to use their EAP for mental health month and then
44:08 do a summer
44:09 preventive care campaign so as they go into the summer this is a
44:13 perfect time
44:13 for you to be able to go to the doctor and get those things if
44:16 you weren’t able
44:16 to do it throughout you know the first quarter and different
44:20 activities will
44:21 still be doing the Space Coast wellness challenge at that point
44:24 and I would love
44:25 to build some community partnerships to bring more summer
44:29 activities and then
44:30 for the financial well-being month which will be April that one
44:35 there’s also
44:35 community partnerships there I know Community Credit Union for
44:40 example they
44:40 do offer that and so I really want to bring that to our staff
44:44 quarter three
44:45 July is skin cancer awareness and then coming back into the fall
44:51 again another
44:52 preventive care campaign it’s a back-to-school this is a perfect
44:55 time
44:56 to take care of our immunity self-care and being able to even
45:00 visit the doctor
45:02 so again back to our health screenings we want to you know
45:06 figure out how to
45:07 use my signal how to find a doctor all of these great things
45:11 throughout the
45:12 summer - we have the diabetes self-management program that if
45:17 all of
45:18 that you know gets approved by the team we will have that so
45:21 that’ll be
45:21 wonderful I would love to do a fall wellness festival which is
45:25 essentially a
45:26 health fair but make it more fun attractive for families and of
45:30 course a
45:31 walk tober challenge which was a huge hit last year so we will
45:35 be doing that
45:36 again fourth quarter is ending the year on a great wellness note
45:41 we still will
45:41 have that walk tober challenge going on and then we can end up
45:46 in the year doing
45:48 another - Milo like we did last year or we can actually do other
45:52 things like a
45:52 sports day bringing community partners and you know share some
45:57 more wellness
45:58 resources there that quarter is more about the breast and
46:02 cervical cancer for
46:03 women’s health month in October and then healthy I’m so sorry
46:07 healthy holidays
46:09 because as we really think about our staff and diabetes and head
46:14 lip pressure
46:14 the holidays is that time where we’re eating all of that salt
46:17 and the sugar
46:18 and so I really want that to be a part of the campaign to make
46:22 sure that you
46:23 know everything that we’ve worked for you know continues during
46:26 the holidays
46:27 as well and then preparing for the following year so I just
46:31 wanted to end
46:31 it here with the great initiative feel good February that we are
46:35 partnering
46:36 with get healthy Brevard for in February next month for heart
46:40 health month and
46:42 basically this is a free and low-cost activities that will be
46:47 available to all
46:48 of the Brevard community and of course I’ll be sharing this with
46:52 our staff is a
46:54 collaboration done from the Florida Department of Health in Brevard
46:57 County
46:58 UF IFAS extension in Brevard County tobacco free Brevard and
47:03 running zone
47:03 along with us and basically it includes all of those free
47:08 activities like group
47:08 walks out through our Brevard Zumba yoga do planting even a
47:13 beach cleanup and all
47:14 of that leading to a community health fair on Saturday February
47:18 28th so that
47:20 will be a great supplement to our go gold challenge because
47:24 these are
47:25 activities that will be after hours they can do it after work or
47:27 on the weekends
47:28 and so you know it doesn’t take a lot of the time throughout the
47:31 day and because
47:32 they’re so busy so it’s a really good way to get their cardio up
47:38 for February
47:38 and we’re really looking forward to that okay well thank you
47:43 hopefully I was able
47:44 to get those five minutes so thank you so much for everything
47:49 that you all are
47:49 doing we really are trying to make wellness a team effort this
47:52 year so if
47:53 you have any thoughts or questions anything please do let us
47:57 know thank you
47:57 well members any questions yeah I just think it would be a good
48:02 time to remind
48:03 the board that it’s not too late to sign up for the go gold
48:05 challenge it started
48:06 yesterday but I have to say after our record our record
48:10 placement and the
48:11 walk to over challenge I think we’ve ever scored so high as a
48:14 team Lena’s
48:15 already sent us out the invitation I’m enjoying the team yet but
48:17 I’m signed up
48:17 you know now if you’re not gonna walk don’t sign up you don’t
48:20 want to ruin our
48:20 average but bored and I think the legal staff we usually join
48:25 together and but
48:26 not just because not just for the honor and fame of it but
48:30 honestly I’ve always
48:31 thought we should do this to set a good example for our staff
48:34 that leadership
48:35 values our health and we want to set an example for
48:38 participating in these
48:40 challenges and for participating in the events and so I always
48:43 appreciate that
48:44 you guys include us in this process and I from the people who
48:49 engage they love
48:51 these they do they really encourage one another I think the
48:54 challenge is how do
48:54 we get more people who aren’t engaged engaged so and I think we’ve
48:59 got these
49:00 wellness coordinators at every site that are the liaisons and I
49:03 think that’s
49:04 gonna be it because you consider bajillion emails and people won’t
49:07 sign
49:07 up but it’s how do you get the newbies who’ve never been apart
49:10 to get excited
49:12 about joining like some of their their colleagues are so keep up
49:18 the good work
49:19 thank you thank you so much so good John you had some I was just
49:27 gonna say I
49:27 signed up I don’t know about you guys but so thank you so much
49:33 and you deal
49:35 with specifically those programs that are fun that are you know
49:38 I mean
49:38 everybody goes and they run and they do all those things thank
49:40 you for that
49:41 because that’s part of the overall I wanted everybody to also
49:44 understand that
49:45 we are moving to a high screening health care plan next year
49:48 which is what not
49:50 what she does but engaging with those local sites to literally
49:55 drive the
49:56 conversations around having your colonoscopies your mammograms
50:00 everything else to make sure that the percentages of the people
50:03 who are taking
50:03 them take them because we’re finding that the people who don’t
50:06 take them are
50:07 coming in in stage threes and fours cancers and stuff like that
50:09 we got to
50:10 catch those early right so I wanted to say this is a real
50:12 specific good portion
50:14 of our plan and thank you so much for coming in front of us and
50:16 talking about
50:17 the 5k’s and everything else the reduction in diabetes we
50:20 appreciate that
50:21 because getting that information out is great I do concur with mrs.
50:25 Campbell and
50:26 the fact that we could help drive this a little bit more and I’m
50:29 guilty as
50:29 anybody else by not promoting what you do so I look forward to
50:33 working with you
50:33 thank you yes and I definitely do agree and we will try to get
50:37 some of the
50:38 education out of those health screenings we really want to
50:41 collaborate to get all
50:42 of those numbers yeah we’re gonna we’re gonna work on it too I
50:44 think the idea is
50:45 is that we we have to honor the people that are at each one of
50:49 the locations to
50:50 give them a little bit more revenue so that they become the
50:52 point contact for
50:53 everybody else and then we move from there I would also say that
50:56 some of our
50:56 fairs that we could set up we could also set up with our health
51:00 first and other
51:00 partners to have those educational pieces you’re only one person
51:04 right so
51:04 we create that but that’s all in part of what we’re doing and
51:07 Ryan I appreciate
51:08 all your work thank you you’ll notice this kind of was
51:14 challenged with the
51:15 kind of a two-prong effect one of its educational and other part
51:18 is
51:18 actually physical right so I want to educate our employees then
51:20 we were
51:21 actually get them moving and then she’s also been championed
51:24 with really work
51:26 with our Wells coordinators at the sites like you said the more
51:29 people we get
51:29 involved better just really getting people moving it’s more of
51:32 the amounts
51:33 prevention pound a cure type of mentality she we did secure some
51:38 funding
51:39 out of our last end of year Cigna dollars last year so we did
51:43 secure some
51:43 funding to give some more money to our wellness champions at the
51:47 sites with
51:47 that we’re gonna be asking them to do a little bit more we also
51:51 the big flags
51:52 are the new thing so we bought some wellness flags for each site
51:55 so when
51:56 there’s a wellness activity going on when they walk into school
51:58 they’re gonna
51:59 see the wellness activity flag knowing what we’re doing
52:01 something today what
52:01 are we doing that type of thing it’s just all okay get trying to
52:05 educate our
52:05 employees and then also just get a moving good it’s each you
52:09 know how the
52:10 teachers union stands up and gives a presentation every faculty
52:14 meeting and
52:14 stuff like that our wellness coordinators pretty soon we’ll
52:17 start to
52:17 do that on various things so we’ll be you know executing 86
52:21 schools at the
52:22 same time as you have Cigna and everybody else working it’s
52:25 going to be
52:25 amazing so it’s all coming thank you thank you thank you have a
52:29 wonderful day
52:30 you too
52:36 mr. Ryan if you can give an update on the Bexa that is happening
52:41 because I’m
52:41 getting a lot of so Bexa is our our breast cancer screening that
52:48 we’re doing
52:49 at the sites where a vendors coming back some vendors coming in
52:53 and they’re gonna
52:54 be doing painless no radiation breast exams for our employees 35
53:03 and older
53:04 really trying to get focus on those catch them early so that’s
53:08 why we loaded
53:09 down to 35 we’re gonna start here in February I thought maybe it’d
53:13 be best if
53:13 we started here at the ESF so we could work through any kinks
53:16 before we start
53:17 pushing them out to the sites we had we had I believe it was 40
53:21 48 or something
53:22 like that appointments for over three days and it was so that we
53:26 opened it at
53:26 10 by noon all the all the slots were taken so if we have that
53:32 kind of support
53:32 at the schools we might you know revisit different sites to just
53:37 make sure
53:38 everybody gets this opportunity what the back say is it’s it’s
53:41 it’s not a
53:42 substitute for a mammogram it’s more of a confidence check
53:45 allows you to you
53:46 know feel good that they didn’t see any abnormalities in your in
53:50 your breast
53:50 tissue so and if they do then you do have to go on and see your
53:54 your
53:54 caregiver but we’ve also with that we’ve pent Park partnered
53:58 with lantern who’s
53:59 going to also help walk people through those those types of
54:02 things so really
54:03 some great some great things we’re fighting for our employees in
54:06 the way it
54:07 works just so you guys know is is that a mammogram is done in a
54:09 certain way that
54:10 is invasive to female this is to capture the 30 extra percent of
54:14 people who
54:15 aren’t taking those mammograms and it’s done with a small device
54:19 it’s done in
54:19 under 30 minutes non-invasive and it has a 2% follow-up so we’re
54:24 excited I heard
54:25 that the numbers were pretty good there are some people just so
54:28 you guys know if
54:29 you ask around that currently have family members and one of the
54:33 issues
54:33 we’re dealing with right now is is that the the screening
54:37 protocol is above 40
54:38 years old a woman only has to go every two years to get a
54:41 screening but we know
54:42 a lot of people who have but we know a lot of people who have
54:47 actually
54:48 contracted cancer in between the first and second year and that’s
54:52 part of this
54:53 is to allow those individuals that if they want to get a really
54:57 nice check
54:57 they can go do that and it also is to capture those 30% of women
55:01 who have not
55:01 taken their breast exam so thank you so much
55:03 dr. indell thank you for spearheading this and we just clarify
55:06 if nobody else
55:07 has figured it out basically we were taking the service to the
55:10 employees to
55:11 the work site yep it’s similar to like when we offer flu shots
55:14 you know you can
55:15 go get your flu shot at a clinic but you have to take time out
55:17 of your day to go
55:18 do that so when we offer flu shots at the work site the
55:21 appointments tend to
55:22 fill up so it’s the same sort of thing we’re bringing the
55:24 service to the
55:25 employees work site so you don’t have to take time off to go
55:28 anywhere for
55:29 teachers it could be done during their planning period or you
55:32 know before school
55:33 after school during lunch that kind of thing so taking a service
55:36 directly to
55:36 our employees so that they don’t have to go out and do it on
55:39 their own and
55:40 hopefully you know we’ll catch anybody early so that they can
55:44 you know receive
55:45 the proper treatment and that’s the other thing about that’s the
55:49 other thing
55:49 about it is is that once somebody is found as part of that 2%
55:53 that’s found
55:54 positive the speed to care is that much quicker and that’s
55:57 something that we’ve
55:57 been working on F like and I’ll just be completely honest when I
56:02 had my health
56:02 issues Cigna does not receive that claim so here’s what happens
56:06 I have a health
56:07 issue say on November 1st Cigna does not receive that claim from
56:11 our carriers our
56:13 hospital networks for between 30 to 60 days while that’s
56:17 happening I’ve already
56:18 gone to all of my proceedings I’ve already done all my stuff so
56:21 by the time
56:22 Cigna engages it’s 30 to 60 days later it’s not a very you know
56:25 engaging
56:26 opportunity so we’re trying to reduce that amount of time to
56:29 care and to have
56:30 those people engage that’s what lantern care is that’s what Bexa
56:33 is that’s what
56:34 our wellness centers are those those opportunities and it’s no
56:38 no shot out to
56:39 Cigna at all this is just when they receive it and that’s when
56:41 they’re
56:41 supposed to so we’re also working with the hospital networks to
56:44 reduce that
56:45 amount of time from the time that you have somebody go in and be
56:48 test positive
56:49 for something or have to come back to the time of treatment it’s
56:51 significantly
56:52 saves because every stage of cancer is another hundred thousand
56:55 dollars in cost
56:56 and anxiety and lost time off of work and everything else so
56:59 that’s why this
57:00 is important that’s that’s what this attacks and that’s why it’s
57:03 important so
57:03 thank you so much mr. different appreciate it thank you all
57:07 right dr.
57:07 Rendell do you want me to take this one or you got it so thank
57:11 you mr. chair the
57:12 next is a discussion of the greater Florida consortium of school
57:15 boards we
57:15 are a member of that consortium their proposed federal
57:19 legislative program or
57:20 agenda I’m going to turn it over to mrs. Campbell but in short
57:25 as a member
57:26 district we get to review the legislative agenda or platform
57:30 program
57:30 and if we have any part of the platform that we disagree with
57:33 they will remove
57:35 it but we have to review that so given mrs. Campbell the
57:39 opportunity to take it
57:40 from here so we just like we did with the state legislative
57:47 agenda if there’s
57:48 anything we can’t remember we can’t edit right any line it’s
57:51 either like a whole
57:52 item comes out I in reviewing this I didn’t really see anything
57:56 that I had a
57:56 problem with every single one of them is a funding thing it’s
58:00 either to clarify
58:01 or to shore up I do want to point out because this has been a
58:06 part of the
58:06 cause of that which is our federal FSB as part of the federal
58:10 organization or
58:10 the national organization cause of a consortium of state school
58:14 board
58:15 association associations they have this about IDEA just one
58:19 thing the IDEA IDEA
58:21 law actually says that the federal government will will support
58:26 do full
58:26 funding is 40% and then the states have to make up the other 60%
58:29 it’s never been
58:30 40% it’s like 15% so the states are having to make up the rest
58:33 that funny or
58:34 districts are having to make up the rest that funding so that’s
58:36 why that
58:36 clarification is cost of it has asked for that every year the
58:40 consortium’s
58:40 asking for the federal government to do what they actually wrote
58:42 in the law they
58:42 said they would do it which is to cover IDEA which is our
58:46 special ed you know
58:47 ESC services funding at this federal full funding amount which
58:52 is 40% so I I
58:54 did not see anything but if any board member has anything we we
58:58 want to make
58:58 sure we vote on it tonight it’s on our agenda tonight to vote on
59:02 as is or with
59:03 any changes that we make today and then we can respond to the
59:07 consortium letting
59:08 them know that we’ve reviewed it and we’re we’re good to go we
59:13 have changes I
59:14 received some calls on this one but the things that were
59:17 mentioned were not
59:18 inside of the document that is here so I think I’m okay with
59:21 what it is anybody
59:21 else have any other questions we can only remove we can’t add
59:27 right if you
59:29 want to add you gotta go to the meeting and in the fall this is
59:32 actually a new
59:33 thing I don’t think they’ve done a federal one before with the
59:36 consortium
59:37 so when it comes time next year for them to develop it they’re
59:41 gonna do it I
59:42 think on the same weekend when they do it it’s an August when
59:45 the consortium
59:46 meets to develop their legislative platform so be great if you’re
59:49 interested I mean any of us can go and be a part so if no
59:54 changes then we’ll
59:55 just leave that item for the agenda tonight to officially
59:59 approve on the
1:00:00 action agenda I think it is and then after that then I’ll be
1:00:04 happy to email
1:00:05 my name whoever it is that sent us this email emails in my box
1:00:14 right now and let
1:00:15 him know that we officially voted to approve it tonight thanks
1:00:18 or his
1:00:19 secretary is there one yeah okay Tom Sarah Tom she does all the
1:00:27 work so and I
1:00:28 don’t mind publicly telling that so we’ll be sending an email to
1:00:32 her so
1:00:33 thank you all right next up is our general counsel’s evaluation
1:00:37 I know some
1:00:38 of you guys wanted to have some changes I appreciate miss Wright
1:00:41 and others who
1:00:42 have spearheaded this effort and said that you know what I mean
1:00:45 there’s some
1:00:45 changes that we need we all agreed so now is the opportunity to
1:00:48 do so so that
1:00:49 we can have an effective change to the contract and stuff like
1:00:53 that
1:00:53 mr. Gibbs had indicated that some of the changes that you guys
1:00:57 have wanted to
1:00:58 make in the past could be changed on his evaluation this year
1:01:02 and be part of it
1:01:03 but I still want to give him that opportunity that if we make
1:01:06 changes to
1:01:06 the contract being the fact that we’re almost two-thirds of the
1:01:09 way through the
1:01:09 contract that if it’s something that he doesn’t feel like we
1:01:12 could substantially
1:01:12 evaluate him and give a true score on then I think that give him
1:01:16 the
1:01:16 opportunity to voice those concerns and I have no problem
1:01:20 pushing those if they
1:01:21 do to the next evaluation so with that said I’d like to give the
1:01:24 floor to
1:01:25 whoever wants to go first and any evaluation changes as I am the
1:01:28 chair and
1:01:29 always go last okay you and you and miss Campbell have your
1:01:33 stuff ready in the
1:01:34 hand so I think two are the ones thank you thank you Lena for
1:01:41 collecting the
1:01:42 evaluations from the other surrounding counties I think there
1:01:44 were some good
1:01:44 ideas and some things that we could pull into our evaluation I’ll
1:01:47 be the first
1:01:48 one to say I absolutely hate Smartsheet so I’m not a fan of that
1:01:51 platform and
1:01:52 it’s probably a me issue because of the technology there
1:01:55 whatever when I went
1:01:56 through the the different evaluations that were available to us
1:01:59 there were
1:01:59 some good things that I liked that I think we should bring in
1:02:03 honestly
1:02:03 Pinellas which looks like I guess this one that’s printed out
1:02:07 okay is that Lee
1:02:10 alright sorry Pinellas is the the one that I really liked I’m
1:02:13 like every
1:02:14 single one of those questions really pertains to our
1:02:16 relationship with our
1:02:17 school board attorney I felt like that evaluation was spot-on
1:02:21 the one thing I
1:02:22 didn’t see in there that I would like to see is that there I
1:02:28 think OCPS was the
1:02:29 one that had a note about developing leadership and subordinates
1:02:33 that are
1:02:33 under you I think that’s a good skill that any good leader
1:02:36 should do is they
1:02:36 should work with the team that’s under them to help rise them up
1:02:39 right I think
1:02:39 that should be an evaluation part of this and I also like the
1:02:43 fact that they
1:02:44 had not observed because there are times when we do pulse
1:02:47 evaluation I’m like well
1:02:48 I don’t know and I don’t have a not observed we can only
1:02:50 evaluate one two
1:02:51 three or four and I there’s no way for me to say na we you got
1:02:55 to give it
1:02:55 something right and then that kind of goes against him so I
1:02:58 think that that we
1:02:59 need to be able to have that option of not observed in here my
1:03:02 personal
1:03:03 feelings are if we were gonna pick any of these to kind of
1:03:06 duplicate it off of
1:03:07 I really really like Pinellas and there was literally I think
1:03:12 with the
1:03:12 exception of deleting 3.3 and 3.4 I think those were specific to
1:03:17 Pinellas
1:03:18 I’m not really sure yeah I’m like I’m not sure what this I don’t
1:03:23 know what
1:03:23 that is so it looks like it’s specific to them but other than
1:03:29 yeah there was
1:03:30 also is this the one that also had made reference to a
1:03:34 newsletter yes um 4.8 yes
1:03:38 4.8 and I was like and I that’s probably not a necessary thing
1:03:41 to do I do like
1:03:42 the the update though I mean if there’s legal matters that are
1:03:46 pertaining to
1:03:46 school boards you know litigation that’s pending things that are
1:03:49 going on that
1:03:49 are it’s going to impact us that’s useful for us to know ahead
1:03:53 of time so
1:03:53 we can get ahead of a policy that we might need to you know
1:03:56 change or create
1:03:57 or whatever so that’s really where I land on this is if I were
1:03:59 gonna pick in
1:04:00 these evaluation tools I would take Pinellas and I would delete
1:04:03 3.3 and 3.4
1:04:04 if the board obviously asking Paul to create a newsletter might
1:04:08 be he might go
1:04:09 one more thing lovely so that may not be something that you have
1:04:13 interest in
1:04:13 doing and then also to make sure we have the ability to to say
1:04:18 not observed in
1:04:20 the evaluation tool so that it doesn’t go against him because we
1:04:24 didn’t see it
1:04:25 I go ahead okay yep we’re kind of open yeah conversation so I
1:04:32 there’s three
1:04:33 things that I definitely want to see as we are moving forward
1:04:38 one is I think we
1:04:39 need to go to a five-point scale we have a four-point scale now
1:04:42 right which is in
1:04:43 contrast to what we do for the superintendent’s evaluation we
1:04:46 use a
1:04:46 five-point scale and I think it makes sense because we we have a
1:04:51 little extra
1:04:52 wiggle room you know because I it’s it’s always hard where do
1:04:56 you put that four
1:04:57 three two one so I think a five-point scale is better which the
1:05:01 lead the one
1:05:03 that I asked Lena to print for everybody is this one that’s the
1:05:06 Lee County one
1:05:07 and I also go also asked her to print Paul’s last one so we can
1:05:10 take a look we
1:05:11 can have that fresh in our minds but the the Pinellas one also
1:05:16 has a
1:05:16 five-point scale but what it has is both the Lee County and the
1:05:21 Pinellas one
1:05:22 simplify it in that you’re giving a score for a whole category
1:05:28 rather than a
1:05:29 score for every actually the Lee County one does it the Pinellas
1:05:33 one has it
1:05:34 you’re giving a score for a whole category so which makes it a
1:05:37 little bit
1:05:38 simpler for us but I also like the not observed if we’re going
1:05:43 to do line item
1:05:45 by line item I think it would you wouldn’t need to not observe
1:05:47 if you’re
1:05:48 gonna give a score for a whole category right but if we’re gonna
1:05:51 do something
1:05:52 like what we have currently or like the Lee County one that I
1:05:56 actually into
1:05:57 print for us I think we definitely to have not observed so that
1:06:00 would be one
1:06:01 thing five-point scale not observed but then the other thing is
1:06:04 we have in the
1:06:05 past asked cabinet to do anonymous to ask them to kind of give
1:06:10 their feedback
1:06:10 on the general counsel because then and then we get those kind
1:06:16 of some together
1:06:18 then they send it to us before we do it so we get his self-evaluation
1:06:21 get to the
1:06:21 cabinet has to say because then some of the things that we haven’t
1:06:24 observed we
1:06:25 get the cabinet to say yes Paul is doing this isn’t this which
1:06:28 sometimes is
1:06:29 behind-the-scenes maybe now that we have the assistant general
1:06:32 counsel that’s not
1:06:33 as necessary because before the general counsel was kind of
1:06:35 having to sometimes
1:06:36 do dual roles but that’s a possibility but I I liked Lee because
1:06:46 it did have
1:06:49 just it was just seemed a little bit simpler and I feel like we
1:06:52 from what we
1:06:53 did I was trying to think of the objections that the board had
1:06:55 to what
1:06:55 we’re using I feel like one going to a five-point scale and to
1:06:59 getting some
1:06:59 staff feedback would help us with some of the problems we had
1:07:02 with it but Lee
1:07:04 seemed simple the only thing that’s problem that I have a
1:07:07 problem with Lee
1:07:08 is if you look at 3c it says effectively representative of the
1:07:12 board with the
1:07:12 public and we do not have the expectation that our general
1:07:15 counsel
1:07:15 will be going out to the public and talking on our behalf that’s
1:07:18 not in his
1:07:18 job description that’s the chair and the superintendent’s role
1:07:21 so definitely would
1:07:23 not and some of the other ones I can’t remember if Pinellas had
1:07:25 I’ll have to
1:07:26 look some of the other ones also had that role so it definitely
1:07:29 would remove
1:07:30 anything that talked about the general counsel yeah I’m okay
1:07:36 with with Pinellas
1:07:38 I just wanted us to go to something simpler what let me ask you
1:07:42 this what if
1:07:43 we took the same type of formatting that Lee has here like the
1:07:47 performance one
1:07:48 and then so we just imposed the type the quite I really like the
1:07:53 questions that
1:07:54 Pinellas asked I think that those ones were it’s a little more
1:07:58 in depth than
1:07:58 Lee’s I think I like I mean Lee’s is very I am I wrote it’s very
1:08:03 minimal like
1:08:04 it’s it’s a simple form and it’s easy but I think this one
1:08:08 covers yeah so what
1:08:10 if we did that what if we just took and plugged in what is
1:08:12 written in here under
1:08:15 Pinellas into the format of Lee so that there so that we’re
1:08:19 giving a score on
1:08:20 every line it would end up being the same kind of and then we’re
1:08:25 kind of
1:08:25 going back to what we have now except it’s a five-point scale I
1:08:28 mean what’s
1:08:29 what’s the difference between Pinellas and what we have now
1:08:32 except for the
1:08:32 five-point scale versus a four-point scale it’s not on a smart
1:08:35 sheet that’s a
1:08:35 major one for me other than formatting the problems with a smart
1:08:43 sheet are just
1:08:43 technical technological things I think we can get past just some
1:08:47 growing curves
1:08:47 yeah well and again that’s some of these questions like what we
1:08:52 have and this is
1:08:52 been my biggest argument all along was these are questions we
1:08:55 can’t answer
1:08:56 because we don’t interact with mr. Gibbs in these manners so I’m
1:08:58 like how are we
1:08:59 supposed to answer that question but I have written right so
1:09:02 that’s why I just
1:09:03 think that the questions that are on his evaluation needs to pertain
1:09:06 to the
1:09:06 relationship we have with the school board’s attorney yes and
1:09:08 and the duties
1:09:09 that he he carries out on behalf of the board you know not so
1:09:12 much behalf of the
1:09:13 district they were more more questions that would be posed for
1:09:16 the district to
1:09:16 ask him not so much us I’m in agreement with this right as far
1:09:26 as Pinellas using
1:09:28 that format with the changes that she’s offered I like the idea
1:09:31 of not having
1:09:32 them not observed as well because I think it’s hugely important
1:09:36 and I also
1:09:36 like the idea of having the staff evaluation ahead of time
1:09:39 because if we
1:09:39 don’t evaluate if he doesn’t get evaluated on those categories
1:09:42 that we
1:09:43 don’t necessarily see he’s not every day there’s no way he’s not
1:09:47 gonna be
1:09:47 evaluated at all in those categories so getting some kind of
1:09:50 feedback even if
1:09:50 though even if we don’t personally observe it getting some
1:09:53 feedback so if
1:09:54 we see something we need to do some further investigation on or
1:09:56 what have you
1:09:57 if there’s something we can do that but at least we have some
1:09:59 feedback because
1:10:00 that way he’s being he’s being you know evaluated on those
1:10:04 categories because if
1:10:06 we don’t do it who will so right if I may on that topic it’s it’s
1:10:14 kind of
1:10:15 difficult right because when we ask staff and I agree with you
1:10:19 100% if
1:10:20 you’re gonna have it on here how are we supposed to know what
1:10:22 they’re saying but
1:10:24 it it is indicative of possibly one or two or three people
1:10:27 giving their voice
1:10:29 when not other people I’m along the lines with Megan that a lot
1:10:32 of these
1:10:32 don’t even pertain to our daily operation and some of them
1:10:36 should be
1:10:37 removed you know I mean I would like to hear back from people I
1:10:41 think what we
1:10:42 should do is is if we’re gonna say it not just work does he work
1:10:45 collaboratively
1:10:46 with school and district personnel but maybe we develop a couple
1:10:49 of questions
1:10:49 for them to actually fill out maybe and give an example and
1:10:52 stuff like that does
1:10:52 that make sense to you so that they can actually refer back and
1:10:56 then we can have
1:10:56 some sustainable or we just mix the entire question and so
1:11:00 worried about it
1:11:00 yes there’s an important category though as far as how he
1:11:04 interacts with this
1:11:04 status we don’t get some kind of right we don’t get some kind of
1:11:07 I just want it
1:11:07 just like everybody else I want it to be sustained like you know
1:11:11 we have to have
1:11:12 some metrics on it and I think that’s fair to either do it the
1:11:15 right way or
1:11:15 pull it right now so that’s up to you guys what I was thinking
1:11:18 was actually
1:11:18 would send them whatever tool we end up like we send them the
1:11:23 tool to say you
1:11:23 fill it out and then we don’t have to ask specific questions and
1:11:27 they can also
1:11:27 have the not observed option also send them the tool of this
1:11:32 whatever tool we
1:11:33 settle to them right not all of them will right well that’s I’m
1:11:37 saying if we
1:11:37 add the not observed if we’re gonna do like miss Wright said and
1:11:41 instead of
1:11:42 doing one at the bottom where you circle one through five which
1:11:45 is super extra
1:11:45 simple actually don’t mind that one either but it but if you
1:11:48 want to do a
1:11:49 one through five on every item and include the not observed
1:11:53 option they
1:11:53 would have that too and we’ll have to figure out how to do the
1:11:56 math with us I
1:11:57 mean really we did we don’t really see the superintendent on a
1:11:59 daily basis how
1:12:00 he interacts with staff but we have more interaction with the
1:12:03 staff his staff on
1:12:04 a daily basis to get an idea of how he interacts you know we may
1:12:07 not have this
1:12:07 much interactive interaction with miss with mr. Gibbs staff so
1:12:11 there’s got to
1:12:13 be some way of getting that information and being able to
1:12:16 evaluate it would you
1:12:17 like to give dr. Rendell the opportunity since it’s his staff to
1:12:21 kind of come up
1:12:22 with a plan in that regard yeah because I think that
1:12:26 his his interactions are different than ours he might have a
1:12:30 better
1:12:30 understanding of that just a thought doctor and I’ll start to
1:12:33 throw you on
1:12:34 the mat no I feel like if you there were two questions or
1:12:37 whatever sets of
1:12:38 questions for interactions with staff or relationships with
1:12:40 staff or
1:12:41 responsiveness whatever those questions are we could give those
1:12:45 out to the
1:12:45 cabinet members and his direct staff they could rate and then we’d
1:12:49 give you
1:12:49 like an overall rating to share and you guys could include that
1:12:54 or not include
1:12:54 that okay so mr. Gibbs you have any thoughts about the Pinellas
1:13:02 plan and
1:13:04 adjusting it as we talked about I looked over all the ones that
1:13:09 were provided and
1:13:10 I think Lee is very short and succinct some of it like you’ve
1:13:14 mentioned I don’t
1:13:15 think applies to me so much like the public and news media even
1:13:18 Pinellas I
1:13:19 think has one about news media it does 4.3 would be struck
1:13:23 something I don’t do
1:13:24 I always no comment whenever media questions come up that’s the
1:13:28 way I
1:13:28 prefer our legal issues to be handled outside of the media we
1:13:32 don’t litigate
1:13:33 the media I know we have staff who are charged with the media
1:13:38 interactions and
1:13:39 I yeah I think everything over there I don’t think anybody any
1:13:42 media stuff
1:13:43 needs to be I think something that I didn’t really see in any of
1:13:47 this is like
1:13:47 responsibility for checking on agenda items I mean that’s
1:13:51 something that is
1:13:51 directly impacting the board so I would there’s just my side is
1:13:56 I think you
1:13:57 should look to add some sort of like agenda responsible issues
1:14:03 there and then
1:14:04 I also had some other ones that I that I thought were pertaining
1:14:07 specifically to
1:14:08 you that we are a little bit different than Pinellas in but if
1:14:12 you guys so I’m
1:14:14 hearing five-point scale not observed feedback on the general
1:14:19 council from
1:14:19 staff right yeah and then utilizing the Pinellas questions
1:14:26 inside of the leaf
1:14:27 format is kind of what you were you wanted miss I think that
1:14:30 that would be
1:14:31 good we’re gonna have to strike some of the several of these so
1:14:33 three four three
1:14:33 three point four four point three those are all gonna have to
1:14:35 come out four
1:14:36 point eight mark down also four point eight unless he wants to
1:14:40 make a
1:14:40 newsletter that’s you know if there’s a if there’s a way that
1:14:53 you guys can email
1:14:54 in what changes you would like right okay and then Paul and I if
1:14:58 you guys
1:14:59 would give me the respect I’ll meet with Paul kind of put it all
1:15:02 together
1:15:02 resend it back out to you guys for a final go ahead and then
1:15:06 would you let’s
1:15:07 like to bring it to the next school board meeting for final
1:15:09 approval or do
1:15:09 you guys want to just do it approve it through the emails well I
1:15:13 the only thing
1:15:14 that we didn’t sorry the only thing we didn’t hammer out if we’re
1:15:17 gonna we
1:15:17 could kind of all agree to remove three point three three point
1:15:20 four four point
1:15:21 three four point eight if you wanted to add an item yeah let’s
1:15:25 let’s just do
1:15:26 that right now and then you guys all you guys are doing is
1:15:28 formatting because I
1:15:29 think we can kind of get approval and not have to wait one of
1:15:32 the manatee has
1:15:33 a line in there that I really would like to see on there but the
1:15:35 school board
1:15:35 attorney is effective and helpful during meetings I think that’s
1:15:38 useful because
1:15:39 he’s obviously we need to know that right is that that’s on the
1:15:42 man it’s on
1:15:43 the manatee one but I think it would probably go I’m trying to
1:15:45 figure out
1:15:45 where I would go on this format for it’s so standard one one
1:15:55 point four he
1:15:55 provides useful legal counsel during board meetings and one
1:15:58 point five he
1:15:58 serves as pawn for a parliamentarian for the board I think we
1:16:00 kind of already
1:16:01 have that okay yeah that’s true okay but it would definitely go
1:16:06 under standard
1:16:07 one so that we didn’t have so it wouldn’t go under accessibility
1:16:12 and
1:16:12 responsiveness but where would we put that about the agendas you
1:16:20 have a gender
1:16:21 management running all of the other little things
1:16:32 so this is only 207 I say let’s just get this hammered out we
1:16:36 don’t have to bring
1:16:37 it back and then all that you guys are talking about is like but
1:16:40 you guys are
1:16:40 gonna officially have to vote on that that was my question come
1:16:44 back yeah we
1:16:45 have I mean we we want we want whatever the finalized meeting
1:16:50 okay yeah so we
1:16:51 have to bring it back that’s why I was saying there’s a couple
1:16:54 of little tweaks
1:16:55 there’s regarding the extra duties as far as dealing with the
1:17:00 public speaking
1:17:02 the agenda I mean there’s there’s notes afterwards that he’s
1:17:06 taking there’s a
1:17:06 lot of little things if you guys will let me add that with them
1:17:09 we can take
1:17:10 the three point threes and four point eights out of it and then
1:17:13 we can put it
1:17:14 together and send it to you guys and we can work on emails until
1:17:17 it gets
1:17:18 finalized right before it I don’t think there’s any substantial
1:17:21 changes that we
1:17:22 have beyond just adding a couple of his regular duties that he
1:17:25 has specific to
1:17:26 provide and then also negating what you guys have already said
1:17:30 and adding the
1:17:31 five-point scale not observed in the feedback portion I think we’re
1:17:34 okay and
1:17:34 he may not have the exact wording he wants for the agenda I don’t
1:17:37 know but I
1:17:38 would just say let him wordsmithing him it has to come back I
1:17:42 think we can
1:17:43 actually you know all approve it through yes this looks good to
1:17:47 me before it
1:17:48 comes back to the next meeting so that we’re not coming back and
1:17:50 making any
1:17:51 kind of conversations it’s just if that was your concern miss
1:17:53 Campbell yeah no
1:17:54 no I’m fine I I did I found it in Polk Paul but it was under
1:17:58 suggested evidence
1:17:59 and artifacts rather than as an item if you do a search for
1:18:03 agenda ensuring
1:18:04 legal compliance agenda items I think that’s what you do but we
1:18:07 move it into
1:18:08 an item rather than evidence yeah okay that’s a critical piece
1:18:12 that should be
1:18:13 yes we’d love to see that little place where it says legal
1:18:16 review check that
1:18:17 you you checked it makes us feel better about it okay are you
1:18:24 comfortable with
1:18:24 this tool I mean I obviously this is this impacts you so are you
1:18:27 comfortable
1:18:27 with us I think all of them are fine they’ll get the job done
1:18:32 okay okay
1:18:34 bored did you have anything else that you wanted to speak about
1:18:38 further to
1:18:39 discuss great job on getting it through yeah so to 215 we can
1:18:43 make the was it
1:18:44 three or three thirty that they have lunch coming for us I think
1:18:46 I saw there
1:18:47 was an email we’ve got time to sign up for go gold we do can you
1:18:51 did yeah we’re
1:18:52 good are you gonna sign Paul are you gonna sign up your your dog
1:18:56 this time
1:18:57 since that’s where you get all your with that no other issues
1:19:06 thank you
1:19:27 you